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July 22, 2024, 07:46:21 AM
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brazil moves up one position in the FIFA world rankings and returns to fifth place. brazil was overtaken by Spain and England, while Argentina dispoared after winning the Copa América over Colombia.

FIFA rankings July update:

1. Argentina: 1,901.48 points
2. France: 1,854.91
3. Spain: 1,835.67
4. England: 1,812.26
5. Brazil: 1,785.61
6. Belgium: 1,772.44
7. Netherlands: 1,758.51
8. Portugal: 1,741.43
9. Colombia: 1,727.32
10. Italy: 1,714.29

Unfortunately, due to some controversial defeats by brazil while other teams are performing well, it's inevitable that brazil will lose positions in the world rankings.
WOW... Argentina is still leading the FIFA rankings. I thought France was in first place or Spain but in fact Argentina is still first, looking at the quality of the players and the mentality of the individuals, everyone still has a strong mentality so it's only fitting that Argentina is still in first place in the FIFA rankings. , maybe there will be changes when the next 2026 World Cup is held between Spain or Portugal, which occupies first place in the next FIFA ranking.


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July 22, 2024, 10:43:04 AM
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brazil moves up one position in the FIFA world rankings and returns to fifth place. brazil was overtaken by Spain and England, while Argentina dispoared after winning the Copa América over Colombia.

FIFA rankings July update:

1. Argentina: 1,901.48 points
2. France: 1,854.91
3. Spain: 1,835.67
4. England: 1,812.26
5. Brazil: 1,785.61
6. Belgium: 1,772.44
7. Netherlands: 1,758.51
8. Portugal: 1,741.43
9. Colombia: 1,727.32
10. Italy: 1,714.29

Unfortunately, due to some controversial defeats by brazil while other teams are performing well, it's inevitable that brazil will lose positions in the world rankings.
WOW... Argentina is still leading the FIFA rankings. I thought France was in first place or Spain but in fact Argentina is still first, looking at the quality of the players and the mentality of the individuals, everyone still has a strong mentality so it's only fitting that Argentina is still in first place in the FIFA rankings. , maybe there will be changes when the next 2026 World Cup is held between Spain or Portugal, which occupies first place in the next FIFA ranking.



I'm not surprised that Argentina is in the lead, after all, champion of the world and champion of America, this team has been winning all the important football titles, and if Argentina played in the EURO they would probably win too... Even though France and Spain are doing well in the rankings, they still have to win championships.


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July 22, 2024, 11:18:41 AM
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Messi simply won't play in that World Cup, it's normal that at that age if they play they penalize the team and unfortunately not even my favorite player Cristiano Ronaldo will participate, he lived through an era of incredible and unrepeatable dualism, luckily we were there
How sure are you about Messi not getting to play in the next world cup? Currently it's still under probability because it hasn't been mentioned anywhere if he's going to play or not it's still what most persons are hopeful about, then wee still have a whole lot of time just before that so we could still wait till then.

In the Euro 2024 we had one of the old players who was over 30 playing a d is team wasn't penalized at any point, I'm yet to come across the rules that makes provision to penalize people who eventually participate in national games at a supposed old age. Cristiano Ronald is still very much optimistic about participating so don't conclude just yet until it's official and confirmed that that's the fate of both players then we can be absolutely sure.
Messi in the 2026 World Cup? It's not a done deal, but let's not act like we haven't seen legends defy Father Time before. El-Hadary of Egypt played at 45, Zoff at 40. Messi's 39 ain't exactly a death sentence.

Plus, if Ronaldo's in (and the dude's ego is bigger than Brazil) we're talking about two absolute icons potentially going head-to-head one last time. Age is just a number, man. If their bodies hold up and their minds are sharp, why not?

Sure, they might not be doing their insane dribbling runs anymore, but their experience alone is worth its weight in gold. They might not be the main guys, but they can still guide the young bucks and show them what it takes to win. The Messi-Ronaldo era might be slowing down, but these guys still got some magic left in them. And who doesn't love a bit of magic, am I right?

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July 22, 2024, 01:10:38 PM
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Brazilian soccer is having things gone opposite side with there is no positive news are coming right now for them because their performance is having huge decline, and they are unable to fix things which are needed to be done for the improvement now they are having 5th spot in FIFA ranking which is clearly giving all things about them in last few years even they are still having few top quality players.

Argentina is leading the table and still have good difference of points from all European opponents which are looking for having top rank France is at the second spot and European Champions Spain is at the third spot England jumps above the Brazil which is also good for them hopefully they will keep things at the better level after losing second successive European Championship final against Spain.
However, I see a trend where several national teams have failed to regenerate. Germany is one of them, they failed to carry out the regeneration process so their performance declined. And when they hosted the Euros they had many doubts before the coach finally decided to recall senior players like Kroos. After the coach brought back experienced players there were good changes they could make, so that confidence in them increased again. Even though in the end they failed to become champions at Euro 2024 as hosts.

regeneration will indeed have problems where they could get something unexpected like what happened recently. However, there are also many teams that have succeeded in their regeneration, like Spain, but did they just get it? Of course not, they also face several obstacles, but the obstacles they face are not as big as others.

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July 22, 2024, 01:46:56 PM
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Messi in the 2026 World Cup? It's not a done deal, but let's not act like we haven't seen legends defy Father Time before. El-Hadary of Egypt played at 45, Zoff at 40. Messi's 39 ain't exactly a death sentence.

Plus, if Ronaldo's in (and the dude's ego is bigger than Brazil) we're talking about two absolute icons potentially going head-to-head one last time. Age is just a number, man. If their bodies hold up and their minds are sharp, why not?

Sure, they might not be doing their insane dribbling runs anymore, but their experience alone is worth its weight in gold. They might not be the main guys, but they can still guide the young bucks and show them what it takes to win. The Messi-Ronaldo era might be slowing down, but these guys still got some magic left in them. And who doesn't love a bit of magic, am I right?
Yeah I think Messi would have retired from national football after winning the 2024 World Cup but again we saw him playing in the Copa America. And we also saw Ronaldo playing in the Euros. If Ronaldo is going to be in the 2026 World Cup, then we can be rest assured that Messi is going to be there as well. They may be old but the rivalry between these two is as fierce as ever. They motivate each other to be the best they can be. These players are more than just goal scorers for their team, they are a source of inspiration and motivation for the rest of the players. Even if they do not start all the matches, they will be needed in the squad in the very least as locker room leaders.

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July 22, 2024, 02:03:10 PM
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brazil moves up one position in the FIFA world rankings and returns to fifth place. brazil was overtaken by Spain and England, while Argentina dispoared after winning the Copa América over Colombia.

FIFA rankings July update:

1. Argentina: 1,901.48 points
2. France: 1,854.91
3. Spain: 1,835.67
4. England: 1,812.26
5. Brazil: 1,785.61
6. Belgium: 1,772.44
7. Netherlands: 1,758.51
8. Portugal: 1,741.43
9. Colombia: 1,727.32
10. Italy: 1,714.29

Unfortunately, due to some controversial defeats by brazil while other teams are performing well, it's inevitable that brazil will lose positions in the world rankings.

In fact, Brazil ranks fairly - they are no better than Belgium, the Netherlands or Portugal. And they are definitely weaker than everyone below whom they are located (maybe just a little weaker than England, but still). It may even be surprising that such a weak Brazil (which has not won anything for years) is practically at the top.
It’s funny that in the top 10 it’s not the German team that looked better than England and France at Euro24.

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Brazilian soccer is having things gone opposite side with there is no positive news are coming right now for them because their performance is having huge decline, and they are unable to fix things which are needed to be done for the improvement now they are having 5th spot in FIFA ranking which is clearly giving all things about them in last few years even they are still having few top quality players.


Football has been played mechanically for too long. Coaches like Pep Guardiola have removed football from being a visual feast. Brazilian footballers are known for their beautiful samba-inspired football. But world football is now played on a more mechanical level. I think this is one of the easiest ways to explain the failure of the Brazilian national team in recent years. Lately, Spain and Argentina are among the best teams in world football. But I think the Germans could also be in this list if they catch a good generation.

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July 22, 2024, 02:47:30 PM
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brazil moves up one position in the FIFA world rankings and returns to fifth place. brazil was overtaken by Spain and England, while Argentina dispoared after winning the Copa América over Colombia.

FIFA rankings July update:

1. Argentina: 1,901.48 points
2. France: 1,854.91
3. Spain: 1,835.67
4. England: 1,812.26
5. Brazil: 1,785.61
6. Belgium: 1,772.44
7. Netherlands: 1,758.51
8. Portugal: 1,741.43
9. Colombia: 1,727.32
10. Italy: 1,714.29

Unfortunately, due to some controversial defeats by brazil while other teams are performing well, it's inevitable that brazil will lose positions in the world rankings.

In fact, Brazil ranks fairly - they are no better than Belgium, the Netherlands or Portugal. And they are definitely weaker than everyone below whom they are located (maybe just a little weaker than England, but still). It may even be surprising that such a weak Brazil (which has not won anything for years) is practically at the top.
It’s funny that in the top 10 it’s not the German team that looked better than England and France at Euro24.
In my opinion, the FIFA ranking is not that important for fans, because it cannot make a team one step closer to winning a trophy, fans only hope that their favorite team can win a trophy. We realize that one of the indicators that influences the coefficient value is the championship trophy, and every team that has the ambition to occupy a better ranking must fight harder to get on the podium. I don't think it matters that Germany is outside the top ten, as of July 18 Germany was ranked 13th and they moved up one place. Apart from all that, the ranking is only a benchmark, which does not reflect the strength of a team as a whole.

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July 22, 2024, 04:24:53 PM
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Messi in the 2026 World Cup? It's not a done deal, but let's not act like we haven't seen legends defy Father Time before. El-Hadary of Egypt played at 45, Zoff at 40. Messi's 39 ain't exactly a death sentence.

Plus, if Ronaldo's in (and the dude's ego is bigger than Brazil) we're talking about two absolute icons potentially going head-to-head one last time. Age is just a number, man. If their bodies hold up and their minds are sharp, why not?

Sure, they might not be doing their insane dribbling runs anymore, but their experience alone is worth its weight in gold. They might not be the main guys, but they can still guide the young bucks and show them what it takes to win. The Messi-Ronaldo era might be slowing down, but these guys still got some magic left in them. And who doesn't love a bit of magic, am I right?
We already have talked many times about them with currently both are doing good jobs for their clubs and with this performance most chances we can expect them for having spots into their national teams for the World Cup 2026 because they are doing things with keeping this target into their minds.

If we have no serious injury or any other problem we will have these players in this mega event and this could be surely their last with having good chance of ending their careers on positive note Cristiano Ronaldo could 41 at the time of world cup, but he is also having another achievement which is going to add him in list of all-time greats he wants to score 1000 goals and currently having 895 which is amazing stuff in last season he plays 47 games for Al Nassr and score 49 goals which is clearly indicating how things are going.

Lionel Messi is also doing good in last few years, and he moves to MLS is also good for him because with this he can take good rest and also having less stress, so things are pretty good for them to stay fit until world cup and give their best last time.

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Brazilian soccer is having things gone opposite side with there is no positive news are coming right now for them because their performance is having huge decline, and they are unable to fix things which are needed to be done for the improvement now they are having 5th spot in FIFA ranking which is clearly giving all things about them in last few years even they are still having few top quality players.


Football has been played mechanically for too long. Coaches like Pep Guardiola have removed football from being a visual feast. Brazilian footballers are known for their beautiful samba-inspired football. But world football is now played on a more mechanical level. I think this is one of the easiest ways to explain the failure of the Brazilian national team in recent years. Lately, Spain and Argentina are among the best teams in world football. But I think the Germans could also be in this list if they catch a good generation.

You believe that football has become more mechanical in recent times and most possibly reason due to the influence of the coaches like Pep Guardiola ? I think that Historically it is the Brazilian football that has been celebrated for its flair and creativity (samba inspired football). Also i can speculate that Germany could also reclaim its status among the world's best teams if they develop a talented generation of players who can technical proficiency along with the creative football skills.

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July 22, 2024, 05:28:02 PM
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It’s funny that in the top 10 it’s not the German team that looked better than England and France at Euro24.
Not really. Germany hasn't achieved any great success in the past few years.
In both 2018 and 2022 world cups, there were eliminated in the group stage. In EURO 2020, they were elimianated in round of 16 and in 2024, there were eliminated in quarter-finals.


as of July 18 Germany was ranked 13th and they moved up one place.
Germany moved up three places from 16th place to 13th place.

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July 22, 2024, 08:16:59 PM
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In fact, Brazil ranks fairly - they are no better than Belgium, the Netherlands or Portugal. And they are definitely weaker than everyone below whom they are located (maybe just a little weaker than England, but still). It may even be surprising that such a weak Brazil (which has not won anything for years) is practically at the top.
It’s funny that in the top 10 it’s not the German team that looked better than England and France at Euro24.
I was also feeling in same way why we have no Germany into top ten despite having better performance from the France and England but still it's all fair enough we are having these teams at these spots and things will be changed in coming months because now we are heading for the start of leagues then we will have World Cup qualifiers which will bring good changes in these spots as well.

Brazil is surely the biggest disappointment for the fans with there is no positive signs are coming from them for having improvement because things are looking no development despite having change of coach.
Hopefully we will have good results from them in coming matches as they will learn from their mistakes which they have done in last few games and having early elimination from the Copa América with is also heartbroken for their fans.

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July 22, 2024, 09:00:40 PM
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WOW... Argentina is still leading the FIFA rankings. I thought France was in first place or Spain but in fact Argentina is still first, looking at the quality of the players and the mentality of the individuals, everyone still has a strong mentality so it's only fitting that Argentina is still in first place in the FIFA rankings. , maybe there will be changes when the next 2026 World Cup is held between Spain or Portugal, which occupies first place in the next FIFA ranking.



I'm not surprised that Argentina is in the lead, after all, champion of the world and champion of America, this team has been winning all the important football titles, and if Argentina played in the EURO they would probably win too... Even though France and Spain are doing well in the rankings, they still have to win championships.
Yes, it is natural that Argentina is in first place, very similar to Spain, which has won back to back Euros plus the World Cup. The difference is, Spain at Euro 2008 used a different coach, while Argentina had the same coach, namely Scaloni.

Argentina's success is due to having a united team that supports and respects each other. Messi is a successful team leader, usually he is calm but since 2018 he has started to be a little more assertive in defending his friends, and his friends really respect Messi's leadership, they do anything for Messi. Argentina's other success lies in the coach, because so far Argentina has never lacked great players, it has been proven that in Scaloni's hands Argentina can achieve everything, even a great coach like Ancelotti also praised Scaloni.

So if you look at the upcoming world cup, with the performance that Argentina currently has. Argentina might be able to win the 2026 World Cup in America because the chances of a European country winning the world cup if it is held on the American continent is very small.

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It’s funny that in the top 10 it’s not the German team that looked better than England and France at Euro24.
Not really. Germany hasn't achieved any great success in the past few years.
In both 2018 and 2022 world cups, there were eliminated in the group stage. In EURO 2020, they were elimianated in round of 16 and in 2024, there were eliminated in quarter-finals.


as of July 18 Germany was ranked 13th and they moved up one place.
Germany moved up three places from 16th place to 13th place.

Germany is one of the best teams in the world, probably top 5 in my mind.

They are incredibly good, and very consistent. Of course sometimes they will lose, but that's just how the game works.

Same with Brazil, it's not not a coincidence that these teams have won the world cup multiple times.
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Yes, it is natural that Argentina is in first place, very similar to Spain, which has won back to back Euros plus the World Cup. The difference is, Spain at Euro 2008 used a different coach, while Argentina had the same coach, namely Scaloni.

Argentina's success is due to having a united team that supports and respects each other. Messi is a successful team leader, usually he is calm but since 2018 he has started to be a little more assertive in defending his friends, and his friends really respect Messi's leadership, they do anything for Messi. Argentina's other success lies in the coach, because so far Argentina has never lacked great players, it has been proven that in Scaloni's hands Argentina can achieve everything, even a great coach like Ancelotti also praised Scaloni.

So if you look at the upcoming world cup, with the performance that Argentina currently has. Argentina might be able to win the 2026 World Cup in America because the chances of a European country winning the world cup if it is held on the American continent is very small.

A coach makes a lot of difference, it can change everything, this reminds me of the Argentine team itself during the 1998/2002 world cup cycles, that team I considered one of the best Argentine teams of all time, there was Batistuta, Veron , Claudio Lopez, Samuel, Crespo, Zanetti, Ortega, that is, several of the best players in the history of Argentine football, but they were unable to do well in any World Cup, possibly due to the coach's tactical style and definitions. If Argentina maintains its standard of play, it will be the big favorite for the 2026 World Cup along with Spain.

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Ronaldo will be 41 years old and Messi will be 39 years old at the 2026 World Cup. In fact, there are many players who are still playing in the highest football competition in the world when they are in their 40s. Based on data from statista.com, the oldest player to play in the World Cup is Essam El-Hadary at the age of 45. And there is also Italian star Dino Zoff who is still playing at the age of 40. Ronaldo will be the oldest European player to play in the world cup if he can play in the 2026 world cup. I agree that the Messi-Ronaldo era is over. However, I think both of them still have an important role in their national team. They will not be the main players but their experience and mentality are still needed by their national team.
There are two different situations here. First of all, while other players could exist at that age, we do not expect them to be good enough to get the title, nobody expects them to be good enough to win any team any cups.

Secondly, these are players who were the greatest two players the world has ever seen, so seeing them not be good could be very disappointing, that is time and time is undefeated. I believe that them keep playing will not be easy, it will make sure that they are dealing with some troubles, and I believe that we need to make sure that Ronaldo and Messi doesn't get any special treatment just because of who they are, they may actually be benched because they will be too old.

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WOW... Argentina is still leading the FIFA rankings. I thought France was in first place or Spain but in fact Argentina is still first, looking at the quality of the players and the mentality of the individuals, everyone still has a strong mentality so it's only fitting that Argentina is still in first place in the FIFA rankings. , maybe there will be changes when the next 2026 World Cup is held between Spain or Portugal, which occupies first place in the next FIFA ranking.



I'm not surprised that Argentina is in the lead, after all, champion of the world and champion of America, this team has been winning all the important football titles, and if Argentina played in the EURO they would probably win too... Even though France and Spain are doing well in the rankings, they still have to win championships.
Yes, it is natural that Argentina is in first place, very similar to Spain, which has won back to back Euros plus the World Cup. The difference is, Spain at Euro 2008 used a different coach, while Argentina had the same coach, namely Scaloni.

Argentina's success is due to having a united team that supports and respects each other. Messi is a successful team leader, usually he is calm but since 2018 he has started to be a little more assertive in defending his friends, and his friends really respect Messi's leadership, they do anything for Messi. Argentina's other success lies in the coach, because so far Argentina has never lacked great players, it has been proven that in Scaloni's hands Argentina can achieve everything, even a great coach like Ancelotti also praised Scaloni.

So if you look at the upcoming world cup, with the performance that Argentina currently has. Argentina might be able to win the 2026 World Cup in America because the chances of a European country winning the world cup if it is held on the American continent is very small.
In my opinion, Argentina's regeneration is very stable, very different from Brazil, but there is something I don't like in your statement, that in my opinion it is a bit excessive to appreciate Messi as a captain, perhaps it is a natural thing, but if we talk about whether Messi has contributed or not, Messi has brought Argentina to this point. , in my opinion all Argentinian players play an important role in achieving all this, not just being ranked number one in FIFA.

Scaloni is a coach who is said to not give much direction, but selecting players and bringing players into the current squad is the right decision and is clever in choosing players. I am worried that Argentina in the next world cup will find it difficult to achieve success during the world cup in Qatar last time, because there are many candidate country that will compete with Argentina in the upcoming 2026 World Cup..

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A coach makes a lot of difference, it can change everything, this reminds me of the Argentine team itself during the 1998/2002 world cup cycles, that team I considered one of the best Argentine teams of all time, there was Batistuta, Veron , Claudio Lopez, Samuel, Crespo, Zanetti, Ortega, that is, several of the best players in the history of Argentine football, but they were unable to do well in any World Cup, possibly due to the coach's tactical style and definitions. If Argentina maintains its standard of play, it will be the big favorite for the 2026 World Cup along with Spain.
I agree with this point because having big players have never been guaranteed to win cups we also need team have good mentor which give them good training and all things which they needed for having wins against opponents as you mentioned without any doubt this was one of the best Argentina team of all time, but they fail to have desired results currently we are having same problem for the Brazil which is having good names, but things are not going as they needed.

Just Brazil is not suffering we are also having few other teams which are suffering due to things like these so its never been easy we have best coach and best players at the same time, but current Argentinian side is surely having huge advantage due to this combo which is giving them success in all events hopefully they will be able to keep things on better level.

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I mean doesn't it make sense for Argentina to lead the world? They won 2 Copa Americas back to back, and in between they won the world cup. France won one world cup six years ago, and failed to win euro 2020 and 2024 as well, so what did they win to make them be the first? I think it's quite clear that we are going to see Argentina be much better ranked than France, hell even England had more "success" recently, two finals at euro, more than what France did, just not that good at world cup, which makes them stay lower I suppose.

In fact, Belgium being that high is the one that makes the least sense, they haven't been good for a long time, what are they using to calculate this? They should realize that Belgium hasn't had any success for many years, and even with KDB and all, they are still not a good team, haven't done anything good for a long time. I believe that this rank is a little weird, but at the same time I think it's good that Argentina is at the top, I would put them there too, winning three out of three competitions in the recent years is the most important aspect to calculate. Italy won too, previous one, and still under Belgium, which is funny to me, but I guess we will never know.

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Brazilian soccer is having things gone opposite side with there is no positive news are coming right now for them because their performance is having huge decline, and they are unable to fix things which are needed to be done for the improvement now they are having 5th spot in FIFA ranking which is clearly giving all things about them in last few years even they are still having few top quality players.


Football has been played mechanically for too long. Coaches like Pep Guardiola have removed football from being a visual feast. Brazilian footballers are known for their beautiful samba-inspired football. But world football is now played on a more mechanical level. I think this is one of the easiest ways to explain the failure of the Brazilian national team in recent years. Lately, Spain and Argentina are among the best teams in world football. But I think the Germans could also be in this list if they catch a good generation.

You believe that football has become more mechanical in recent times and most possibly reason due to the influence of the coaches like Pep Guardiola ? I think that Historically it is the Brazilian football that has been celebrated for its flair and creativity (samba inspired football). Also i can speculate that Germany could also reclaim its status among the world's best teams if they develop a talented generation of players who can technical proficiency along with the creative football skills.
The Brazilians are fading away from football gradually, and Germany has good records in football which I might say that they are among the country that the or football is improving with passage of time. It will be good if they can surprise the world in the next world cup because they have a good squad.

What they need is for the players to continue playing together to tighten the bond in order for them to bring out a superb performance. However, they still need to improve their performance to be the best.

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