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October 10, 2024, 11:27:39 AM
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What is different is that the current Indonesian squad is very different from when Bahrain beat Indonesia with a very convincing score at that time. Now Indonesia is strengthened by many players who play in several prestigious leagues in the world, yes, even though they are part of a team that is not considered strong enough, but of course what we see is experience. Bahrain on paper is no better than Saudi Arabia and Australia and when facing both countries Indonesia managed to hold a draw, that will be a good capital and of course it will increase the confidence of the players. In this group, Indonesia is actually the weakest country when viewed from the ranking, but for now the ranking is just a number for Indonesia seen from the previous 2 matches.
Of course the squad is completely different because in the past was full of Indonesian, while now they're full of Holland. It's no longer Indonesia to be honest, it's Netherlands v2.0. Netherlands is currently at the 7th rank in the world, it's not surprising why Netherlands v2.0 can qualify for World Cup and give a fight against higher rank countries.

Australia should've secure 3 points because they've score one more goal in the injury time, it's surprising China can score one goal.



Furthermore, it is indeed correct that the Indonesian national team currently consists of many diaspora players, most notably hailing from the Netherlands. It tends to give the national team somewhat of the appearance of “Netherlands v2.0” because many of them are people of Indonesian descent born and who have developed their football careers in the Netherlands. A few have even represented the Dutch national team in their youth categories. Nevertheless, as long as they give their best on the pitch and have the intention and hope of making Indonesia proud, that is what matters. What is key is their commitment to make Indonesia proud on the international stage, and that is an initiative I will always support.

And it is commonplace in modern football, where many countries tap into the potential of their diaspora players. Not only Indonesia, but countries in Europe as well often fill the depth of their national teams with players who have a diaspora background, especially from Africa.

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October 10, 2024, 11:27:53 AM
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In my own opinion I would rather say its the end of an era for the Brazilian national team and its time they start all over again to build a formidable team that can replicate the feats of the Brazilian team of 98 and 2002. Similarly this was the case of Spain after winning the European cup and the world cup respectively yet they began to  suddenly decline due to some factors that were beyond their control, for example, change of players, coaches, retirement of some players in the team, injuries etc which makes it difficult for some national teams to continue to dominate in the world stage for a long period of time.
You are right, one thing I observed about this Brazilian team is that they want an immediate success and it's not possible. They think they can replicate what their older generations did without putting in years of planning and building, thereby placing a heavy weight on the shoulders of their young squads. They should take time and build a team that's capable of winning the world cup maybe in the next two editions ahead. They should forget about 2026 would cup and fucus more in 2030  edition, and start building the team now. That's exactly what Spain did and 2026 world cup is likely going to be their own to win. Because they are capable of winning any team currently.

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October 10, 2024, 11:59:14 AM
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What is different is that the current Indonesian squad is very different from when Bahrain beat Indonesia with a very convincing score at that time. Now Indonesia is strengthened by many players who play in several prestigious leagues in the world, yes, even though they are part of a team that is not considered strong enough, but of course what we see is experience. Bahrain on paper is no better than Saudi Arabia and Australia and when facing both countries Indonesia managed to hold a draw, that will be a good capital and of course it will increase the confidence of the players. In this group, Indonesia is actually the weakest country when viewed from the ranking, but for now the ranking is just a number for Indonesia seen from the previous 2 matches.
Of course the squad is completely different because in the past was full of Indonesian, while now they're full of Holland. It's no longer Indonesia to be honest, it's Netherlands v2.0. Netherlands is currently at the 7th rank in the world, it's not surprising why Netherlands v2.0 can qualify for World Cup and give a fight against higher rank countries.

Australia should've secure 3 points because they've score one more goal in the injury time, it's surprising China can score one goal.



Furthermore, it is indeed correct that the Indonesian national team currently consists of many diaspora players, most notably hailing from the Netherlands. It tends to give the national team somewhat of the appearance of “Netherlands v2.0” because many of them are people of Indonesian descent born and who have developed their football careers in the Netherlands. A few have even represented the Dutch national team in their youth categories. Nevertheless, as long as they give their best on the pitch and have the intention and hope of making Indonesia proud, that is what matters. What is key is their commitment to make Indonesia proud on the international stage, and that is an initiative I will always support.

And it is commonplace in modern football, where many countries tap into the potential of their diaspora players. Not only Indonesia, but countries in Europe as well often fill the depth of their national teams with players who have a diaspora background, especially from Africa.
I agree that the presence of diaspora players can bring a breath of fresh air to the Indonesian national team. This is an opportunity to utilize existing talents while maintaining national identity and spirit. I hope we can also see more programs that support the development of local players. Collaboration between diaspora and local players can create a strong synergy, so that our national team can compete better at the international level. Let's continue to support the Indonesian national team so that they can appear in the World Cup later.

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October 10, 2024, 12:04:40 PM
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In my own opinion I would rather say its the end of an era for the Brazilian national team and its time they start all over again to build a formidable team that can replicate the feats of the Brazilian team of 98 and 2002. Similarly this was the case of Spain after winning the European cup and the world cup respectively yet they began to  suddenly decline due to some factors that were beyond their control, for example, change of players, coaches, retirement of some players in the team, injuries etc which makes it difficult for some national teams to continue to dominate in the world stage for a long period of time.
You are right, one thing I observed about this Brazilian team is that they want an immediate success and it's not possible. They think they can replicate what their older generations did without putting in years of planning and building, thereby placing a heavy weight on the shoulders of their young squads. They should take time and build a team that's capable of winning the world cup maybe in the next two editions ahead. They should forget about 2026 would cup and fucus more in 2030  edition, and start building the team now. That's exactly what Spain did and 2026 world cup is likely going to be their own to win. Because they are capable of winning any team currently.
Your confidence level on Spain winning the 2026 world cup is something else. Have you thought about other countries with the same quality of players that can win the the cup. There is France, Italy, England, Argentina, Croatia and Belgium. Am not expecting it to be an easy one for Spain because of the current squad they have now. 2026 is not far again. Let me see the outcome of the World Cup since you have so much faith in Spain. It will take you like a surprise when you seen another team win the World Cup.

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October 10, 2024, 12:43:08 PM
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Brazil is a traditional team, from this traditional team we have seen many legendary players who have made history in football. You claim that Brazil played well in 2002 but here I would like to add something to you. For example, Brazil has played well in these 22 years, but they have not won any major tournament.  

After 2002, Brazil won the Copa America several times and were defeated in the final. It doesn't mean that Brazil is not going well now, but it doesn't mean that Brazil doesn't have good quality players. There are still good quality players in Brazil but the biggest problem is that there is no experienced manager in Brazil right now to give direction to these good quality players. When a good manager takes over Brazil will once again become one of the best teams in FIFA.
The Brazilian national team has never missed participation in World Cup and their poor performance in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers makes it little doubtful whether Brazil will have to miss out for the first time? Current standings of CONMEBOL FIFA World Cup qualifier  Brazil national teams on 5th standings position and bit difficult opportunity qualifying to World Cup 2026 because have few points remaining from Bolivia and Paraguay national teams have 9 points.

Upcoming two matches later facing Chile and Peru, have bad news for Brazil national team because their important players Vinicius Jr and Eder Militao have out from squad after injuring. Brazil need six points of two matches reach to higher standings place and get easily for qualifying to FIFA World Cup 2026 because have 9 points remaining from Argentina national teams who lead the first position place.
It is not true that a team like Brazil will not qualify for the main stage of the World Cup. Brazil has qualified to play in the main stage of every World Cup so far and we have faith in Brazil that they will continue to do so. But when we remember that former four-time World Cup winning team Italy has never qualified for the main stage of the World Cup in any World Cup tournament, we have doubts that Brazil can really qualify for the main stage of the 2026 World Cup. You said Brazil has consistently underperformed in major tournaments like the World Cup since 2006, and the biggest proof of that is the fact that it's been a long time since the team failed to qualify for the semi-finals.  

In the last few World Cup tournaments we have seen Brazil exit from the quarter finals and now it is doubtful whether Brazil will be able to play in the main stage of the World Cup.

Brazil although struggling as a team, it's really hard to imagine them failing to qualify for the main stage of the championship. In fact, I think they could well reach at least the quarter-finals. Their coach says they will be in the final, I don't know, we'll see, because to get to the final of the World Cup you have to be in much better shape than Brazil is at the moment.
Every time Brazil goes to the World Cup they aim to win the Mission Hexa but so far they have not been able to fulfill their dream of winning the Mission Hexa. There is no player from the team that Brazil won the World Cup with but now Brazil has nothing to be proud of this team. Argentina had performed poorly in the last few years even before winning the World Cup and still regretted not winning an international title in 30 years, but they eventually became World Cup champions. Also won two Copa Americas in a row. The Brazilian team must try to improve a lot. If Brazil are not able to improve themselves everywhere then their dream of winning the Mission Hexa will never come true.

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October 10, 2024, 01:06:59 PM
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Of course the squad is completely different because in the past was full of Indonesian, while now they're full of Holland. It's no longer Indonesia to be honest, it's Netherlands v2.0. Netherlands is currently at the 7th rank in the world, it's not surprising why Netherlands v2.0 can qualify for World Cup and give a fight against higher rank countries.


Not only Indonesia, France is an example that can be compared to how the players are in their squad. Indonesia with naturalized players, no, I don't want to call them naturalized players, but players who come home to defend their national team in order to achieve a big target. This is a real change that we appreciate and we really want Indonesia to become an Asian power in world football.

 
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October 10, 2024, 01:09:40 PM
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Brazil is a traditional team, from this traditional team we have seen many legendary players who have made history in football. You claim that Brazil played well in 2002 but here I would like to add something to you. For example, Brazil has played well in these 22 years, but they have not won any major tournament.  

After 2002, Brazil won the Copa America several times and were defeated in the final. It doesn't mean that Brazil is not going well now, but it doesn't mean that Brazil doesn't have good quality players. There are still good quality players in Brazil but the biggest problem is that there is no experienced manager in Brazil right now to give direction to these good quality players. When a good manager takes over Brazil will once again become one of the best teams in FIFA.
The Brazilian national team has never missed participation in World Cup and their poor performance in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers makes it little doubtful whether Brazil will have to miss out for the first time? Current standings of CONMEBOL FIFA World Cup qualifier  Brazil national teams on 5th standings position and bit difficult opportunity qualifying to World Cup 2026 because have few points remaining from Bolivia and Paraguay national teams have 9 points.

Upcoming two matches later facing Chile and Peru, have bad news for Brazil national team because their important players Vinicius Jr and Eder Militao have out from squad after injuring. Brazil need six points of two matches reach to higher standings place and get easily for qualifying to FIFA World Cup 2026 because have 9 points remaining from Argentina national teams who lead the first position place.
It is not true that a team like Brazil will not qualify for the main stage of the World Cup. Brazil has qualified to play in the main stage of every World Cup so far and we have faith in Brazil that they will continue to do so. But when we remember that former four-time World Cup winning team Italy has never qualified for the main stage of the World Cup in any World Cup tournament, we have doubts that Brazil can really qualify for the main stage of the 2026 World Cup. You said Brazil has consistently underperformed in major tournaments like the World Cup since 2006, and the biggest proof of that is the fact that it's been a long time since the team failed to qualify for the semi-finals.  

In the last few World Cup tournaments we have seen Brazil exit from the quarter finals and now it is doubtful whether Brazil will be able to play in the main stage of the World Cup.

Brazil although struggling as a team, it's really hard to imagine them failing to qualify for the main stage of the championship. In fact, I think they could well reach at least the quarter-finals. Their coach says they will be in the final, I don't know, we'll see, because to get to the final of the World Cup you have to be in much better shape than Brazil is at the moment.
Every time Brazil goes to the World Cup they aim to win the Mission Hexa but so far they have not been able to fulfill their dream of winning the Mission Hexa. There is no player from the team that Brazil won the World Cup with but now Brazil has nothing to be proud of this team. Argentina had performed poorly in the last few years even before winning the World Cup and still regretted not winning an international title in 30 years, but they eventually became World Cup champions. Also won two Copa Americas in a row. The Brazilian team must try to improve a lot. If Brazil are not able to improve themselves everywhere then their dream of winning the Mission Hexa will never come true.

generally when you have too many expectations on a team it always fails it is normal as it works in every sport or in every discipline where there is a lot of competition, when a team is forced to have excellent results it is easier for them to make mistakes, because they have too many eyes on them and risks making mistakes

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October 10, 2024, 02:22:48 PM
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 Their coach says they will be in the final, I don't know, we'll see, because to get to the final of the World Cup you have to be in much better shape than Brazil is at the moment.

I think things in Brazil are so delicate that a coach needs to say that to calm his people down. It's the first time I've seen Brazil suffer like that. Honestly, it's the first time in history that I've seen it that way. They're always comfortable in the standings. Now they have this phenomenon I say this because of everything that Brazil means They've let many teams beat them and drawn That has hurt them They're in a position where they can completely take you out of the game I don't know, but if they continue like this, it's very likely that it will happen if they don't do something quickly.

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Brazil is a traditional team, from this traditional team we have seen many legendary players who have made history in football. You claim that Brazil played well in 2002 but here I would like to add something to you. For example, Brazil has played well in these 22 years, but they have not won any major tournament.  

After 2002, Brazil won the Copa America several times and were defeated in the final. It doesn't mean that Brazil is not going well now, but it doesn't mean that Brazil doesn't have good quality players. There are still good quality players in Brazil but the biggest problem is that there is no experienced manager in Brazil right now to give direction to these good quality players. When a good manager takes over Brazil will once again become one of the best teams in FIFA.
The Brazilian national team has never missed participation in World Cup and their poor performance in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers makes it little doubtful whether Brazil will have to miss out for the first time? Current standings of CONMEBOL FIFA World Cup qualifier  Brazil national teams on 5th standings position and bit difficult opportunity qualifying to World Cup 2026 because have few points remaining from Bolivia and Paraguay national teams have 9 points.

Upcoming two matches later facing Chile and Peru, have bad news for Brazil national team because their important players Vinicius Jr and Eder Militao have out from squad after injuring. Brazil need six points of two matches reach to higher standings place and get easily for qualifying to FIFA World Cup 2026 because have 9 points remaining from Argentina national teams who lead the first position place.
I cannot imagine a world cup without the Brazilians, it would seem like a movie without a villain and a hero, I would love to see their traditional yellow and blue jersey and above all, I would love to see the Brazilian national team get back to their glory days when they were seemingly invisible, when they were the team to watch, with star players from the goal post to defense, to the midfield and the forwards and as well as the attacking line up, but i guess all that is a thing of the past, right now it seems as if they are going to miss the world cup due to the current standing in their group and the exclusion of two key players, vinicius jnr and Eder militao, i hope things turn around for them because without Brazil in the 2026 FIFA world cup there will indeed be a very big vacuum.











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October 10, 2024, 03:42:17 PM
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I cannot imagine a wordcup without the Brazilians, it would seem like a movie without a villain and a hero, I would love to see their traditional yellow and blue jersey and above all, I would love to see the Brazilian national team get back to their glory days when they were seemingly invisible, when they were the team to watch, with star players from the goal post to defense, to the midfield and the forwards and as well as the attacking line up, but i guess all that is a thing of the past, right now it seems as if they are going to miss the world cup due to the current standing in their group and the exclusion of two key players, vinicius jnr and Eder militao, i hope things turn around for them because without Brazil in the 2026 FIFA world cup there will indeed be a very big vacuum.

Let's see how they will play against Chile and Peru. if Brazil can win both matches, then there is still a chance to qualify for the World Cup. but if the results are bad for them, then we will see a World Cup without Brazil.
Every country experiences this. some are developing rapidly in their football, but some are declining. and that's what makes football betting for national teams sometimes very difficult to predict.

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October 10, 2024, 03:45:34 PM
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today match will be a big challenge for Indonesia, especially so far Indonesia has a bad history with a history of crushing defeats to Bahrain in the previous match, but the big changes that are happening today in indonesian squad certainly cannot make head to head as a reference for us to underestimate them, this time,  Indonesian squad is much stronger with players who are experienced in Europe,  the majority of their players play in the international league and certainly bring  valuable experience that can be an important capital in facing Bahrain later, Bahrain may not be better than Saudi Arabia or Australia, and the draw against the both teams shows that Indonesia has great potential to win the match later in my opinion.
I agree with you. This match is really important for Indonesia. First, they want to take revenge for the 10-0 defeat from Bahrain a few years ago. Currently, the Indonesian national team has players with better quality. I think a win will make them forget that defeat. Second, this win will make Indonesia rank 2nd in the standings if Japan manages to beat Saudi Arabia. Of course, this will increase Indonesia's chances of qualifying for the world cup for the first time in their history. The next match is against Japan and China. It is almost impossible for Indonesia to beat Japan but at least they can secure 3 points from Bahrain and China to open up their chances of qualifying for the 2026 world cup.











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October 10, 2024, 04:29:58 PM
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In my own opinion I would rather say its the end of an era for the Brazilian national team and its time they start all over again to build a formidable team that can replicate the feats of the Brazilian team of 98 and 2002. Similarly this was the case of Spain after winning the European cup and the world cup respectively yet they began to  suddenly decline due to some factors that were beyond their control, for example, change of players, coaches, retirement of some players in the team, injuries etc which makes it difficult for some national teams to continue to dominate in the world stage for a long period of time.
You are right, one thing I observed about this Brazilian team is that they want an immediate success and it's not possible. They think they can replicate what their older generations did without putting in years of planning and building, thereby placing a heavy weight on the shoulders of their young squads. They should take time and build a team that's capable of winning the world cup maybe in the next two editions ahead. They should forget about 2026 would cup and fucus more in 2030  edition, and start building the team now. That's exactly what Spain did and 2026 world cup is likely going to be their own to win. Because they are capable of winning any team currently.
Your confidence level on Spain winning the 2026 world cup is something else. Have you thought about other countries with the same quality of players that can win the the cup. There is France, Italy, England, Argentina, Croatia and Belgium. Am not expecting it to be an easy one for Spain because of the current squad they have now. 2026 is not far again. Let me see the outcome of the World Cup since you have so much faith in Spain. It will take you like a surprise when you seen another team win the World Cup.
I think the level of confidence reposed on Spain is quite justifiable because if you go back to search amongst all the countries you have mentioned you Would notice that it is only Spain and Argentina that play like a unit in terms of team work, dedication and also you would notice that the Spanish side is without much big names unlike Germany, Belgium,France, Italy etc but they were still able to conquer Europe.

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October 10, 2024, 04:45:19 PM
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In my own opinion I would rather say its the end of an era for the Brazilian national team and its time they start all over again to build a formidable team that can replicate the feats of the Brazilian team of 98 and 2002. Similarly this was the case of Spain after winning the European cup and the world cup respectively yet they began to  suddenly decline due to some factors that were beyond their control, for example, change of players, coaches, retirement of some players in the team, injuries etc which makes it difficult for some national teams to continue to dominate in the world stage for a long period of time.
You are right, one thing I observed about this Brazilian team is that they want an immediate success and it's not possible. They think they can replicate what their older generations did without putting in years of planning and building, thereby placing a heavy weight on the shoulders of their young squads. They should take time and build a team that's capable of winning the world cup maybe in the next two editions ahead. They should forget about 2026 would cup and fucus more in 2030  edition, and start building the team now. That's exactly what Spain did and 2026 world cup is likely going to be their own to win. Because they are capable of winning any team currently.
Your confidence level on Spain winning the 2026 world cup is something else. Have you thought about other countries with the same quality of players that can win the the cup. There is France, Italy, England, Argentina, Croatia and Belgium. Am not expecting it to be an easy one for Spain because of the current squad they have now. 2026 is not far again. Let me see the outcome of the World Cup since you have so much faith in Spain. It will take you like a surprise when you seen another team win the World Cup.
Based on the current FIFA ranking Spain is the third-best national team in the world. So, it will not be out of place for someone to believe they can win the World Cup. Belgium and Croatia based on the last Euro Competition might not be on my list of countries who will win the competition. It will not be easy for any country to win the World Cup because it is a tournament filled with the best teams in the world.

But why are we not also considering teams like Morrocco? The North African team surprisingly made it to the semi-finals in the last competition in Qatar making them the first African country to achieve that feat. They defeated Portugal, Spain and Belgium to get to the semis.  I desire to see a country that has not lifted the competition to win it this time.    

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This will be a big surprise if Indonesia can win Bahrain on their home. this match will be revenge Indonesia for their defeat 10-0 a while ago. in terms of quality Bahrain not even better than Saudi which I think Indonesia can easily handle it. But again, Indonesia performance is still not good, they will disappoint fans if too much praised, and when I look how the composition the Bahrain squad is look the same as they defeat Indonesia while ago, so Indonesia team must have to be alert, This is not impossible bahrain use the same strategy to do the same thing to defeat Indonesia. I hope the naturalization player are not tired as they play on their club before to pass Indonesia to the next round qualification.

The temporary score for the Bahrain vs Indonesia match is 1-2 and the match has now entered the 80th minute and in fact, I personally did not expect to see Indonesia play as well as it is now. I hope Indonesia remains focused and can maintain its lead well. And one thing that I am grateful for is that Marteen Paes can play for Indonesia. And it looks like the player's injury has recovered. There are still 10 minutes left in this match. And the score could change again. but I would prefer the score not to change until the end.











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If the players haven't figured out how to deal with high altitudes by now, well, they deserve to lose. I mean, come on, no respectable player or coach will complain anymore. This is modern football Smiley Bolivia past 8 home matches, only 3 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses. So yeah man, it's not an issue anymore.

And about Brazil, no Vinicius so they might actually win big this time Wink


Yes, you're right, but what happens here is that they are 4,150 meters above sea level, and something very curious, Colombia will play today, and they have been Preparing with special masks , but Bolivia will not let them train in that stadium, that is, Bolivia wants to take advantage of its advantage no matter what , the qualifiers in South America are quite tough, for now dealing with the altitude is a big challenge for many, they already decided in Bolivia that that will be their stadio to play all their games at home.

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The temporary score for the Bahrain vs Indonesia match is 1-2 and the match has now entered the 80th minute and in fact, I personally did not expect to see Indonesia play as well as it is now. I hope Indonesia remains focused and can maintain its lead well. And one thing that I am grateful for is that Marteen Paes can play for Indonesia. And it looks like the player's injury has recovered. There are still 10 minutes left in this match. And the score could change again. but I would prefer the score not to change until the end.
The Indonesian national team looks like it will be able to maintain its current score. Thanks to the coach that Indonesia currently has, namely Shin Tae-yong, we can see Indonesia's game which is calmer and less hasty and yes, a little better. But Bahrain is actually not in good condition because they also lost in their previous match, namely when they faced Japan with a fairly large score. But it is truly extraordinary that we can see that Indonesia can make things difficult for Bahrain at this time. Because usually Indonesia always has difficulties when facing Bahrain. I think M.Paes is one of the best goalkeepers in that match. He continuously made saves for the Indonesian goal.

I actually don't have high hopes for Indonesia. So I was quite surprised to see that Indonesia had not lost in the current Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.

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The temporary score for the Bahrain vs Indonesia match is 1-2 and the match has now entered the 80th minute and in fact, I personally did not expect to see Indonesia play as well as it is now. I hope Indonesia remains focused and can maintain its lead well. And one thing that I am grateful for is that Marteen Paes can play for Indonesia. And it looks like the player's injury has recovered. There are still 10 minutes left in this match. And the score could change again. but I would prefer the score not to change until the end.
The Indonesian national team looks like it will be able to maintain its current score. Thanks to the coach that Indonesia currently has, namely Shin Tae-yong, we can see Indonesia's game which is calmer and less hasty and yes, a little better. But Bahrain is actually not in good condition because they also lost in their previous match, namely when they faced Japan with a fairly large score. But it is truly extraordinary that we can see that Indonesia can make things difficult for Bahrain at this time. Because usually Indonesia always has difficulties when facing Bahrain. I think M.Paes is one of the best goalkeepers in that match. He continuously made saves for the Indonesian goal.

I actually don't have high hopes for Indonesia. So I was quite surprised to see that Indonesia had not lost in the current Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.


It is very unfortunate with the final score of 2-2 and the referee's decision that was so detrimental to Indonesia, where the additional time had shown that the match was actually over but unfortunately the referee Ahmed Al Kaf had not yet blown his whistle, but we Bharain had already scored a goal, the referee Ahmed Al Kaf had just blown the whistle that the match was over, of course a controversial decision even though they shared points but of course Indonesia was still disadvantaged by an incident like this.

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The temporary score for the Bahrain vs Indonesia match is 1-2 and the match has now entered the 80th minute and in fact, I personally did not expect to see Indonesia play as well as it is now. I hope Indonesia remains focused and can maintain its lead well. And one thing that I am grateful for is that Marteen Paes can play for Indonesia. And it looks like the player's injury has recovered. There are still 10 minutes left in this match. And the score could change again. but I would prefer the score not to change until the end.
The Indonesian national team looks like it will be able to maintain its current score. Thanks to the coach that Indonesia currently has, namely Shin Tae-yong, we can see Indonesia's game which is calmer and less hasty and yes, a little better. But Bahrain is actually not in good condition because they also lost in their previous match, namely when they faced Japan with a fairly large score. But it is truly extraordinary that we can see that Indonesia can make things difficult for Bahrain at this time. Because usually Indonesia always has difficulties when facing Bahrain. I think M.Paes is one of the best goalkeepers in that match. He continuously made saves for the Indonesian goal.

I actually don't have high hopes for Indonesia. So I was quite surprised to see that Indonesia had not lost in the current Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.
The match ended in a 2-2 draw after Bahrain was able to equalize the score through Marhoon in the last seconds of extra time (90+9) through a corner kick scheme, in my opinion the draw obtained by Indonesia today has shown their have  strong mentality and is starting to become one of the Asian Tigers that should can't be underestimated anymore , the number of experienced players which playing in Europe has made the development of the Indonesian national team increase drastically which may never have been We saw before, today match was really quite fierce and full of tension because the two teams kept trying to pressure each other, but honestly I think the referee decision today is quite controversial and may be questionable after the referee did not stop the match although the time had passed 90+6, so it is very natural for the Indonesian official and squad to protest against the referee decision, but apart from that, we should admit that Marteen Paes performance is really very good and has a lot of positive effects on the current Indonesian national team squad.

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It is very unfortunate with the final score of 2-2 and the referee's decision that was so detrimental to Indonesia, where the additional time had shown that the match was actually over but unfortunately the referee Ahmed Al Kaf had not yet blown his whistle, but we Bharain had already scored a goal, the referee Ahmed Al Kaf had just blown the whistle that the match was over, of course a controversial decision even though they shared points but of course Indonesia was still disadvantaged by an incident like this.

It is truly unfortunate the behavior of the referee who led the Bahrain vs Indonesia match. Not because I am Indonesian that I say that referee Ahmed Al Kaf led the qualifying match badly, but towards the end of the match this FIFA licensed referee really harmed the position of the Indonesian team.
If indeed according to the rules the extra time given was appropriate, I would consider the final result to be acceptable, but what Ahmed Al Kaf did was not fair at all.

Let the world judge the referee's performance in this match, the challenge to qualify is indeed tough, but the Indonesian team has not been defeated during the qualifying round.

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October 10, 2024, 10:28:48 PM
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Well, regarding Bolivia-Colombia, they beat Colombia at altitude, specifically in the "El ALTO" stadium at 4,150 meters above sea level, which is impressive Colombia could not concede a draw I admire the physical condition of the Colombians because it was truly clear that they demonstrated that they had very good conditions, but of course with a big advantage because they showed the Bolivians a red card, so that balanced out the altitude advantage a lot, but they couldn't. Bolivia, without a doubt, with its strategy at that stadium is doing well , and so far they are in 5th place in the standings. Looking forward to the match between Brazil and Chile.

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