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October 10, 2024, 10:40:12 PM
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Of course the squad is completely different because in the past was full of Indonesian, while now they're full of Holland. It's no longer Indonesia to be honest, it's Netherlands v2.0. Netherlands is currently at the 7th rank in the world, it's not surprising why Netherlands v2.0 can qualify for World Cup and give a fight against higher rank countries.

Australia should've secure 3 points because they've score one more goal in the injury time, it's surprising China can score one goal.



Furthermore, it is indeed correct that the Indonesian national team currently consists of many diaspora players, most notably hailing from the Netherlands. It tends to give the national team somewhat of the appearance of “Netherlands v2.0” because many of them are people of Indonesian descent born and who have developed their football careers in the Netherlands. A few have even represented the Dutch national team in their youth categories. Nevertheless, as long as they give their best on the pitch and have the intention and hope of making Indonesia proud, that is what matters. What is key is their commitment to make Indonesia proud on the international stage, and that is an initiative I will always support.

And it is commonplace in modern football, where many countries tap into the potential of their diaspora players. Not only Indonesia, but countries in Europe as well often fill the depth of their national teams with players who have a diaspora background, especially from Africa.
While FIFA did not make a ban on the naturalization of descendants, I thought it was legitimate either any country, maybe even if there were some other countries that had descendants of Indonesian blood it was worthy to get the right if you wanted to play in the Indonesian national team.
Yes, even though it is said that the Netherlands v2.0 or even v.10 even if it is allowed in my opinion it does not need to be a conversation that is too long.

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October 10, 2024, 10:48:33 PM
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While FIFA did not make a ban on the naturalization of descendants, I thought it was legitimate either any country, maybe even if there were some other countries that had descendants of Indonesian blood it was worthy to get the right if you wanted to play in the Indonesian national team.
Yes, even though it is said that the Netherlands v2.0 or even v.10 even if it is allowed in my opinion it does not need to be a conversation that is too long.

Historically, FIFA has determined that an athlete must have the permanent nationality of a country, whether born or naturalized, in order to represent the respective national team, in addition to prohibiting, as a general rule, a player from representing a second national team after playing for a first one in an official competition of any category or type of football.

But... there are exceptions:
There are some requirements that must be met to allow a player to change sporting nationality in order to represent another national team.
Since 2009, FIFA has removed the age restriction of 21 years and in 2020, some other criteria for multiple eligibility and change of association were changed:
1. Being born in the desired country;
2. Your parents or grandparents were born in the country, or;
3. Having lived continuously in the country for at least 2 years.

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October 10, 2024, 11:07:58 PM
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Today at 01:16:58 AM
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It is very unfortunate with the final score of 2-2 and the referee's decision that was so detrimental to Indonesia, where the additional time had shown that the match was actually over but unfortunately the referee Ahmed Al Kaf had not yet blown his whistle, but we Bharain had already scored a goal, the referee Ahmed Al Kaf had just blown the whistle that the match was over, of course a controversial decision even though they shared points but of course Indonesia was still disadvantaged by an incident like this.
That injury time is always the such thing to be controverted. I don't know why the referee always not consistent to blow the whistle when the time was appropriate. From 6 minutes to 9 minutes is not acceptable. Yes i can accept when the time extended to 7 minutes, but over 3 minutes is an exaggeration. And when I look how Mohammed Marhoon stand, that look offside, he stands in front from Indonesia defender and the referee didn't look him as offside. So I think this match is not fair for Indonesia, not only lost my bet  Grin, I lose also my excitement throughout the game. Now, we have to win against china on next 15 October to to secure 3dr or 4th the position stand.

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Today at 02:03:23 AM
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It is truly unfortunate the behavior of the referee who led the Bahrain vs Indonesia match. Not because I am Indonesian that I say that referee Ahmed Al Kaf led the qualifying match badly, but towards the end of the match this FIFA licensed referee really harmed the position of the Indonesian team.
If indeed according to the rules the extra time given was appropriate, I would consider the final result to be acceptable, but what Ahmed Al Kaf did was not fair at all.
I was really disappointed with the performance of the referee from Oman in that match. Since the beginning of the match I saw indications of cheating by the referee. Of course I can't judge him because I'm from Indonesia and the referee understands the rules of football better. However, Bahrain's second goal really didn't make sense. The referee gave 6 minutes of additional time and in the 6th minute the referee didn't end the match but waited for Bahrain to attack from their defense line. I wouldn't have been disappointed if Bahrain scored in the 90+5 minute but they scored in the 90+9 minute. He reminded me of the referee who cheated Italy in the 2002 World Cup.











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Today at 02:53:45 AM
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That injury time is always the such thing to be controverted. I don't know why the referee always not consistent to blow the whistle when the time was appropriate. From 6 minutes to 9 minutes is not acceptable. Yes i can accept when the time extended to 7 minutes, but over 3 minutes is an exaggeration. And when I look how Mohammed Marhoon stand, that look offside, he stands in front from Indonesia defender and the referee didn't look him as offside. So I think this match is not fair for Indonesia, not only lost my bet  Grin, I lose also my excitement throughout the game. Now, we have to win against china on next 15 October to to secure 3dr or 4th the position stand.
It was very controversial the referee at Bahrain vs Indonesia match, Indonesia failed to secure three points after conceding in the final minute of added time. One of the most controversial things about referee Ahmed Al-Kaf was that there were many favorable violations for the Bahrain National Team during the 6 minutes of added time, but the goal occurred in the 99th minute or more than three minutes of added time.

During the 6 minutes of extra time, there was no stoppage at all but referee Ahmed Al-Kaf had another point of view with the match running until the 99th minute and making Indonesia fail to get their first three points in the qualifying round.
I think FIFA and AFC make serious investigate how bad and controversial of Ahmed Al-Kaf to suspend him from all FIFA and AFC matches for the future.

 
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Today at 03:33:22 AM
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It was very controversial the referee at Bahrain vs Indonesia match, Indonesia failed to secure three points after conceding in the final minute of added time.
Hopefully, they learned from this and aim to secure victory with 2 goal difference or at the very least improve their concentration in the last minutes of a match so they don't concede late goals again. Complaining about unfairness can't guarantee anything IMO, even if governing bodies revise or stop using a controversial referee I don't think they'll change the results of a match that has ended. A football team can only depend on themselves to secure 3 points in this modern time.

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