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October 08, 2025, 03:04:03 PM
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The fourth round of the Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.

Tonight, Indonesia vs Saudi Arabia is something we're looking forward to, hoping that the Indonesian national team will beat Saudi Arabia, having previously beaten and held the Arab team to a draw.

The match is not being held at a neutral venue but in the Middle East, which is hosting the event we were hoping for a neutral venue.

In terms of betting odds, the bookmakers are offering very different odds.
Yeah, hopefully there's a chance to win. Grin


I doubt Indonesia will win this match. Not because their abilities are inferior to Saudi Arabia's, but because the Indonesian national team usually fails to perform optimally when playing away from home. And we know this match will be held at the King Abdullah Sports City Stadium in Saudi Arabia. And with the different climate, I doubt the Indonesian players will be able to perform at their best. But if the Indonesian national team wants to be a team worthy of qualifying for the World Cup, they must beat Saudi Arabia in this match. If the Indonesian national team loses, it means they haven't qualified at all. I'm definitely emotionally supporting the Indonesian national team. However, I don't dare bet on this match. Perhaps I'd prefer to enjoy the match without betting this time.
We will see match of Indonesia football team against Saudi Arabia football team in the FIFA World Cup Asian qualifiers. Both teams are of same level and we will see interesting match between these two teams and many players should try to behave like a team if they want to win this match. Indonesia team recent performance is well as they won 3 matches out of last 5 matches which they played against different teams and lost only 1 match in last 5 matches and Saudi Arabia football team won only 1 match out of last 5 matches which they played against different teams .The head to head performance of Indonesia team is good as they won 1 match our of 2 matches which they played against Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia could not win any match.











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October 08, 2025, 03:13:48 PM
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It's unbelievable to see how high ticket price for the world cup 2026 is inflated so high compared to the 2022 world cup. This is absolutely mad. I wonder how many people can afford it even americans. I meant cat 4 mutiplied by 10 times while the rest 4 times.
Holy shit the price is a joke. What in the world people who will pay for such price. I'd rather use such big money for gambling by ma self.

is this US's effect?  Huh Huh Huh

These are crazy prices guys, you can't spend all this money even if it's a World Cup
This money does not include travel, accommodation, or food.
considering that in the places where you go to watch the games they raise the prices then, scary... i can't even if i wanted to, it costs too much

Of course, this is a crazy price, it is overpriced and out of range. Watching a football match for so much money is really a luxury, I think it makes no sense to spend so much money to watch the World Cup matches. Instead, with the money that I spend to watch a football match, I can watch the entire World Cup football much better by arranging a big projector. The money they have charged for the ticket price, there is no travel opportunity, there is no food, so we will not be able to make any profit by just watching the football match with the extra money. It is a matter of fear that with so much money, it may not be possible for me to watch the game, only those who have enough money can watch it, even if we want to, we will not be able to buy World Cup tickets and watch the game, if the ticket price is so high.
Football was once for everyone, Serie A was so affordable that stadiums were full of people cheering for their favourite team, and seeing a World Cup match was a popular thing, now let's say it is aligning itself with tennis and other sports and prices have increased dramatically, I honestly think that globalisation has led to this and now there is no way back.

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October 08, 2025, 03:16:01 PM
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The match is not being held at a neutral venue but in the Middle East, which is hosting the event we were hoping for a neutral venue.

In terms of betting odds, the bookmakers are offering very different odds.
Yeah, hopefully there's a chance to win. Grin


Honestly, I don't like this situation where the match should be held at a neutral venue, but that rule is violated just for personal gain. Even though they may have acted honestly in implementing it, there is still a situation where we feel disadvantaged, especially when we look at the track record of how teams in the Middle East have used subtle tactics to smooth the way for their plans.

On the other hand, in terms of odds, I think it’s reasonable because Indonesia, in every aspect (ranking and experience at this stage), is clearly far below, but I’m still quite optimistic about my country, even though the chances are very slim. As long as there’s still a chance, we’ll keep fighting.

Another situation that’s happening now is that some key players can’t play, and currently, Verdonk might not be able to play in today’s opening match.
It may seem biased, but I'll enjoy the 6.2 odds even though the chances of winning are clearly slim Smiley

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October 08, 2025, 03:28:04 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2025, 03:38:47 PM by bangjoe
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The match is not being held at a neutral venue but in the Middle East, which is hosting the event we were hoping for a neutral venue.

In terms of betting odds, the bookmakers are offering very different odds.
Yeah, hopefully there's a chance to win. Grin


Honestly, I don't like this situation where the match should be held at a neutral venue, but that rule is violated just for personal gain. Even though they may have acted honestly in implementing it, there is still a situation where we feel disadvantaged, especially when we look at the track record of how teams in the Middle East have used subtle tactics to smooth the way for their plans.

On the other hand, in terms of odds, I think it’s reasonable because Indonesia, in every aspect (ranking and experience at this stage), is clearly far below, but I’m still quite optimistic about my country, even though the chances are very slim. As long as there’s still a chance, we’ll keep fighting.

Another situation that’s happening now is that some key players can’t play, and currently, Verdonk might not be able to play in today’s opening match.
It may seem biased, but I'll enjoy the 6.2 odds even though the chances of winning are clearly slim Smiley
Logically and from the perspective of gamblers who want to win at gambling, the favorite to win in this match is Saudi Arabia, but I will bet on my own country here, no matter whether they win or lose, I will make sure that I will support them even if the win is very narrow (they don't know that we are strong enough). Grin

I don't care where the match is held and which players come in to play, what is certain is that in this match we have to win, we can still fight Saudi Arabia, at least playing a draw would be great for our team.

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October 08, 2025, 03:28:24 PM
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We will see match of Indonesia football team against Saudi Arabia football team in the FIFA World Cup Asian qualifiers. Both teams are of same level and we will see interesting match between these two teams and many players should try to behave like a team if they want to win this match. Indonesia team recent performance is well as they won 3 matches out of last 5 matches which they played against different teams and lost only 1 match in last 5 matches and Saudi Arabia football team won only 1 match out of last 5 matches which they played against different teams .The head to head performance of Indonesia team is good as they won 1 match our of 2 matches which they played against Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia could not win any match.

Both Saudi Arabia and Indonesia are of the same quality. It is difficult to choose a favorite team here. You are right that Indonesia is in a good form now. Their performance in the last few matches was stable. But  Indonesia's opponents were not very strong. So it was easy for Indonesia to perform well. Indonesia  played well against lebanon and Chinese taipei in the last three matches. But before that, the team lost 6 - 0 against Japan. So I doubt whether Indonesia will be able to do well against Saudi arabia.

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October 08, 2025, 03:39:13 PM
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The fourth round of the Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.

Tonight, Indonesia vs Saudi Arabia is something we're looking forward to, hoping that the Indonesian national team will beat Saudi Arabia, having previously beaten and held the Arab team to a draw.

The match is not being held at a neutral venue but in the Middle East, which is hosting the event we were hoping for a neutral venue.

In terms of betting odds, the bookmakers are offering very different odds.
Yeah, hopefully there's a chance to win. Grin


Indonesia can nick this provided that they play the chaos game correctly. The pressure is on the Saudis: domestic audience, political goodwill, even a Kuwaiti ref people are already side-eying. That can suffocate players. When they fail to score early, the stadium becomes nervous within a short time

The competitive advantage of Indonesia is time based. The team of Kluivert has legs and structure to play 60 minutes, then steal one in the end when the Saudi press chokes in that dry heat. People forget, humidity in Jakarta kills you slowly, but Jeddah's dry heat sucks the life out of you. Smart rotations can reverse the energy curve at 70'. Even when the tempo slows, Marselino can slice through with his speed between lines and Verdonk with his inverted runs

Sure, we are still long shots (16-17 percent chance of winning), but those lines are still lagging reality, as they did when they were written off prior to the 2-0 in Jakarta. And if we grab points here, fan will suddenly become talking about Indonesia in the next round conversation for real


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October 08, 2025, 03:51:29 PM
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We will see match of Indonesia football team against Saudi Arabia football team in the FIFA World Cup Asian qualifiers. Both teams are of same level and we will see interesting match between these two teams and many players should try to behave like a team if they want to win this match. Indonesia team recent performance is well as they won 3 matches out of last 5 matches which they played against different teams and lost only 1 match in last 5 matches and Saudi Arabia football team won only 1 match out of last 5 matches which they played against different teams .The head to head performance of Indonesia team is good as they won 1 match our of 2 matches which they played against Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia could not win any match.

.Judging based on the historical data and performance comparison records between these two teams, the Indonesian national team has an edge over the Saudi Arabian team in this  encounter, and hopefully they will win the game as expected, but we can still undermine the ability of the Saudi national team to possibly do surprises 😮 because the game of football is full of unpredictable outcomes.

 
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October 08, 2025, 03:52:16 PM
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Logically and from the perspective of gamblers who want to win at gambling, the favorite to win in this match is Saudi Arabia, but I will bet on my own country here, no matter whether they win or lose, I will make sure that I will support them even if the win is very narrow (they don't know that we are strong enough). Grin

I don't care where the match is held and which players come in to play, what is certain is that in this match we have to win, we can still fight Saudi Arabia, at least playing a draw would be great for our team.

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Okay, you're very brave. I like your support.

The fourth round of the Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.

Tonight, Indonesia vs Saudi Arabia is something we're looking forward to, hoping that the Indonesian national team will beat Saudi Arabia, having previously beaten and held the Arab team to a draw.

The match is not being held at a neutral venue but in the Middle East, which is hosting the event we were hoping for a neutral venue.

In terms of betting odds, the bookmakers are offering very different odds.
Yeah, hopefully there's a chance to win. Grin


Indonesia can nick this provided that they play the chaos game correctly. The pressure is on the Saudis: domestic audience, political goodwill, even a Kuwaiti ref people are already side-eying. That can suffocate players. When they fail to score early, the stadium becomes nervous within a short time

The competitive advantage of Indonesia is time based. The team of Kluivert has legs and structure to play 60 minutes, then steal one in the end when the Saudi press chokes in that dry heat. People forget, humidity in Jakarta kills you slowly, but Jeddah's dry heat sucks the life out of you. Smart rotations can reverse the energy curve at 70'. Even when the tempo slows, Marselino can slice through with his speed between lines and Verdonk with his inverted runs

Sure, we are still long shots (16-17 percent chance of winning), but those lines are still lagging reality, as they did when they were written off prior to the 2-0 in Jakarta. And if we grab points here, fan will suddenly become talking about Indonesia in the next round conversation for real
As long as the game is played neatly and fairly, don't remind me of how we faced Qatar back in the day. The Saudis have more experience and, frankly, their strength is much greater. Moreover, this match is in Arab territory, so they are used to the temperature and pitch there. But this time, we're different. We have different players than in previous matches, which will give us much more confidence.

Don't worry, we'll respond with those small chances. Maybe we'll surprise the Arabs this time. Believe me, victory is in the hands of the round ball.

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October 08, 2025, 04:07:19 PM
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The fourth round of the Asian zone World Cup qualifiers.

Tonight, Indonesia vs Saudi Arabia is something we're looking forward to, hoping that the Indonesian national team will beat Saudi Arabia, having previously beaten and held the Arab team to a draw.

The match is not being held at a neutral venue but in the Middle East, which is hosting the event we were hoping for a neutral venue.

In terms of betting odds, the bookmakers are offering very different odds.
Yeah, hopefully there's a chance to win. Grin


Indonesia appears to have the upper hand over Saudi Arabia based on their last two head-to-head meetings, where they drew one match and even Indonesia won for latest match. But this time around the atmosphere may be different for Indonesia as they must compete in Jeddah for the upcoming match. And this is clearly very different from when Indonesia hosted Saudi Arabia in Jakarta in their last match. So the odds available show that Saudi Arabia is favored in this match. And the odds show a significant gap between the two teams. Although I support the Indonesian national team. But I believe Indonesia will have a difficult time against Saudi Arabia this time, where they will experience pressure from the different atmosphere and even the difference in supporters this time. I personally prefer to predict that Saudi Arabia will dominate this match or even win it. But I believe the score gap will not be far apart. And it's likely to be only a one-goal difference.

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It's unbelievable to see how high ticket price for the world cup 2026 is inflated compared to the 2022 world cup. This is absolutely mad. I wonder how many people can afford it even americans. I meant cat 4 mutiplied by 10 times while the rest 4 times.
Holy shit the price is a joke. What in the world people who will pay for such price. I'd rather use such big money for gambling by ma self.

is this US's effect?  Huh Huh Huh
They are out of their mind. First of all many people right now don't want to go to the US considering all the stuff that are happening; secondly they just raised by hundreds of dollars the cost of the visas for many countries; then we have the cost of the hotels and restaurants that is already out of control and for sure they are going to raise the prices even more for the WC. And now, the ticket prices that are ridiculous. Who wouldn't spend hundreds of dollars to go watch Jordan vs Tunisia? Roll Eyes


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October 08, 2025, 04:48:22 PM
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.Judging based on the historical data and performance comparison records between these two teams, the Indonesian national team has an edge over the Saudi Arabian team in this  encounter, and hopefully they will win the game as expected, but we can still undermine the ability of the Saudi national team to possibly do surprises 😮 because the game of football is full of unpredictable outcomes.

Keep in mind that the two previous impressive results were achieved under different coaches so Indonesia superiority doesn't guarantee a similar result in this third meeting. Furthermore the Saudi Arabian players are currently performing well for their respective clubs, making me somewhat unsure of an Indonesian victory, even though I'd like to see that result. And we know Saudi Arabia has many advantages here, including the referee, the venue and the crowd. I just hope the referee doesn't do anything detrimental to Indonesia and that Indonesia at least comes home with a point.

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October 08, 2025, 05:33:34 PM
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It's unbelievable to see how high ticket price for the world cup 2026 is inflated compared to the 2022 world cup. This is absolutely mad. I wonder how many people can afford it even americans. I meant cat 4 mutiplied by 10 times while the rest 4 times.
Holy shit the price is a joke. What in the world people who will pay for such price. I'd rather use such big money for gambling by ma self.

is this US's effect?  Huh Huh Huh

Damn  Shocked
Imagine the idea of ​​attending a few games with your family. It would be a big hit on the budget. And I think yes, this is the US effect, but everything could turn out like it did with the Club World Cup - spectators simply won't go to the games to save money, and then the organizers will hastily lower prices so the stands won't be empty. Incidentally, given the quality of the group stage games (zero due to a horde of weak teams), who will attend this stage of the tournament? Only influencers, Onlyfans models, and others such hoping to luckily get in front of the cameras.

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October 08, 2025, 06:00:45 PM
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.Judging based on the historical data and performance comparison records between these two teams, the Indonesian national team has an edge over the Saudi Arabian team in this  encounter, and hopefully they will win the game as expected, but we can still undermine the ability of the Saudi national team to possibly do surprises 😮 because the game of football is full of unpredictable outcomes.
Mentality seems to have been Indonesia's obstacle during the first half. After taking the lead through Kevin Diks, Saudi Arabia turned the score around by capitalizing on minor mistakes made by Indonesian players.
Saudi Arabia's defense was not very strong and they easily panicked, but they were able to cover that up with their ball control.
Saudi Arabia also had the advantage of playing at home.

FIFA should have arranged a neutral venue instead of Saudi Arabia, as Saudi Arabia is also one of the teams fighting to qualify for the World Cup.
The same applies to Group A, where Qatar is the host and also a team fighting to qualify.

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I cant believe the value of the tickets for this new world cup , is impossible to go if you are from a third world country and i think maybe that is one of the points of making it so expensives.

One thing i notice and i cant believe is, how much do you have to not like football to be on the inaugurational amtch and not in a semifinal, i mean semifinal is less expensive than the first game.

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It's unbelievable to see how high ticket price for the world cup 2026 is inflated compared to the 2022 world cup. This is absolutely mad. I wonder how many people can afford it even americans. I meant cat 4 mutiplied by 10 times while the rest 4 times.
Holy shit the price is a joke. What in the world people who will pay for such price. I'd rather use such big money for gambling by ma self.

is this US's effect?  Huh Huh Huh

This has to be a joke. Inflation is very high in Türkiye right now, but even these prices are higher than the inflation rate in Türkiye four years ago.
Since it's only every four years, they've multiplied the prices from four years ago by four. 😂
These prices seem excessive to me. People won't pay these prices for something that lasts 90 minutes.
If prices don't drop to reasonable levels, it'll be hard to find fans in stadiums.


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I doubt Indonesia will win this match. Not because their abilities are inferior to Saudi Arabia's, but because the Indonesian national team usually fails to perform optimally when playing away from home. And we know this match will be held at the King Abdullah Sports City Stadium in Saudi Arabia. And with the different climate, I doubt the Indonesian players will be able to perform at their best. But if the Indonesian national team wants to be a team worthy of qualifying for the World Cup, they must beat Saudi Arabia in this match. If the Indonesian national team loses, it means they haven't qualified at all. I'm definitely emotionally supporting the Indonesian national team. However, I don't dare bet on this match. Perhaps I'd prefer to enjoy the match without betting this time.
It's because most of their players are Dutch who're not familiar to live in hot and dry weather, if most of the players are real Indonesian, they will not have any problem to play at Saudi Arabia's home.

If you said Indonesia must not lose in this match and you're supporting Indonesia, you can bet "Indonesia or draw" option, so either one you will win as long as the match not lose.
Well, I could have chosen that option. However, I wasn't even sure Indonesia could hold Saudi Arabia to a draw in normal time. The second half was now underway, entering the 73rd minute. Both teams had already scored, with the score 1-3 in favor of Saudi Arabia. And yes, this was in line with my predictions.


Well, there are too many naturalized players on this team who are accustomed to European conditions. That's why I doubt it. Although I now hope Indonesia can turn things around, being several goals down will still be difficult for the Indonesian national team to fight back.

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This was a good performance from Saudi Arabia tonight even though I didn't expect anything less. Indonesia had little grip on the ball all through the game  with only few shots on target. Thank goodness for the double Penalties taken it could have ended badly the more.

Saudi Arabia now sits at the top. I'm sure most gamblers would cash out on them.

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Well, I could have chosen that option. However, I wasn't even sure Indonesia could hold Saudi Arabia to a draw in normal time. The second half was now underway, entering the 73rd minute. Both teams had already scored, with the score 1-3 in favor of Saudi Arabia. And yes, this was in line with my predictions.


Well, there are too many naturalized players on this team who are accustomed to European conditions. That's why I doubt it. Although I now hope Indonesia can turn things around, being several goals down will still be difficult for the Indonesian national team to fight back.
The match ended with a score of 2-3. And yes, the Indonesian national team was defeated by Saudi Arabia. Frankly, the Indonesian national team was unlucky to face Saudi Arabia in the fourth round. The quality of the Saudi Arabian players is currently experiencing a significant improvement. Facing them at that stadium would certainly be difficult for the Indonesian national team. However, the 2-3 scoreline also shows that Indonesia wasn't defeated badly. Indonesia still managed to put up a fight. One Saudi Arabian national team player even received a red card.

The other match, Oman vs. Qatar, ended in a 0-0 draw. Qatar completely dominated the game. Unfortunately, Qatar couldn't score a single goal.

 
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Saudi Arabia fell behind but managed to turn the game around. 3 of the 5 goals were penalties. Referees didn't award so many penalties in the past, but now they don't hesitate to give them when they see one. Saudi Arabia will qualify for the cup. Iraq and Indonesia have no chance against them.
Egypt defeated Djibouti 3-0 and secured their spot in the tournament. They were already the favorites in their group. Salah is like a cheat code for them. With him, they're very comfortable.


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This was a good performance from Saudi Arabia tonight even though I didn't expect anything less. Indonesia had little grip on the ball all through the game  with only few shots on target. Thank goodness for the double Penalties taken it could have ended badly the more.

Saudi Arabia now sits at the top. I'm sure most gamblers would cash out on them.
Yes, Saudi Arabia performed better in that match and they truly deserved the win. And I'm not surprised or shocked by this result. And I'm confident Saudi Arabia will qualify for the World Cup, as usual. It's rare to see Saudi Arabia absent from a World Cup. And this time, they'll definitely be there.

The Indonesian national team must recognize that they still have quite a few weaknesses that need to be addressed. However, judging by the way they fought in that match, it's clear that the Indonesian national team has improved significantly. Perhaps they can succeed next time.

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