If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up?

[SmartCharpa]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I'm also newbie, as a beginner so if you want to rank up and earn merits, you need to contribute and make quality posts to show that you're active. When you put in the effort to produce quality posts, you'll start earning merit for your contributions to the forum, and as soon as you do, you'll rank higher than you think.

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[Eureka_07]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

The higher the rank, the more merits you need. Also you need minimum number of activities and merits to attain each rank... So, merit is not just the thing that you need for ranking up.
You can have maximum of 14 activities every two (2) weeks (please correct me if I'm wrong), meaning if you have more than 15 posts on that time frame, only 14 will be added to your activity count. This is also the reason that most users here has more post count than activity count.

[akuntester1]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I hope you always read posts or threads about the rules that are made and that must be obeyed in this forum, friends.
So that you know better and contribute more properly and correctly in this forum.
Rank increase will not occur if we do not have enough merit.
Many have included threads about new users and rules on this forum.
I hope you can read it so that your contribution in this forum is more focused and better.
Keep up the enthusiasm to provide quality posts and contributions, bro.

[Wiwo]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit.

please explain, and thank you

Just as other have mentioned you need both forum activities and merits to rank up in the current forum ranking system, your merits must meet up with your fun activities requirements and merit are awarded by other members of the forum for your quality contributions, but from activities come organically from you posting on the forum your activity is generated automatically in every two-week cycle 14 activities in one activities cycle will be awarded base on your posts counts.

18 June 2013 to 23 January 2018 requires activity with Bitcoin forum posts.  Brand New requires 0 posts 0 activities, Newbie 1-28 posts 28 activities, Junior members 30 activities, Members 60 activities, Full members 120 activities, Senior members 240 activities, Hero members 480 activities, Legendary members 960 activities.

Since 24th January 2018, activity as well as merit system has been introduced.  Now it's not just about activity but it has to have merit number.

LDL you did well will you analysis of the forum posts, activities and merit as regards to forum ranking, But it looks like you have missed up some points in your analyses and the point in bolded looks to be wrong, especially where you mention that forum activity and merits were introduced on 24th January 2018. This is false and to the best of my knowledge of on this thread, forum activities have been in existence before 2018 and then forum activities are what determined a user rank until January 2018  when the merit system was introduced.

[LDL]

LDL you did well will you analysis of the forum posts, activities and merit as regards to forum ranking, But it looks like you have missed up some points in your analyses and the point in bolded looks to be wrong, especially where you mention that forum activity and merits were introduced on 24th January 2018. This is false and to the best of my knowledge of on this thread, forum activities have been in existence before 2018 and then forum activities are what determined a user rank until January 2018  when the merit system was introduced.

Thanks @Wiwo
Maybe there is a mistake in my writing or speaking but now I tried to present myself with a little correction.  If there is a mistake in this, then I will be very happy if you correct the mistake by personal message later.

22 Nov 2009- 17 June 2013
Forum started its journey+ Those time ranked automatically changed without Activity.

Here Satoshi's announcement.
Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!

Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28

18 June2013- 23 January 2018
Ranked changed post+ activity ( 14 days duration activity)

Theymos announcement regarding activity
Activity & new membergroup limits

Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.msg2513302#msg2513302

24 January-Today
Ranked changed Posts+ activity+ merits
Theymos announcement regarding merits systems
Merit & new rank requirements

post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28856522#msg28856522

[Woodie]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Unfortunately without merit you can't rank up and this only happened as a way to fight forum spam and low quality posts that went rampant few years back , but don't sweat it, the merit system is easy to understand using the analogy of how humans need food to grow and that food is in the form of merit here & without it you won't grow...

[Issa56]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

If you want to rank up on this forum, you have to make quality post, if any member of the forum think your post is useful, then they might merit it. If you check this thread, you will understand the amount of merits required and activities required to attain a particular rank (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0). If you keep on posting, your post count and your activities will keep on increasing but your merit will never increase automatically if anyone did not merit your post.

[_BlackStar]

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.

Your conclusion is a bit controversial, but it's true that shitposters won't get merit in most cases. But you know, today's shitposter are smarter than old shitposter who are probably more busy with shitcoin bounty, they tend to have a way to get 1-2 merit from different users in a particular thread.

I also didn't get many merit in November 2022, only about 4 merit from 4 different users. Then am I a shitposter? 

[JoyMarsha]

Without merit, one cannot advance in rank.

Your total number of merits indicates the significance and quality of the contributions you have made in this forum and how many of those posts have been recognized by forum members. A good poster and a poor poster can be distinguished from one another using merit. Every member of this forum requires it in order to advance in rank, maintain relevance, and reap the rewards, such as taking part in bitcoin-paying campaigns.

[Sayakaaja]

I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed

I also looked at his profile from the first post to the last post but unfortunately most of his posts are off topic and more posts length one line .



https://ninjastic.space/user/Sayakaaja

Now the main thing is that you should be active in the forum regularly, share good information, give constructive posts regularly.  Then you can change your rank in future days.  If your constructive post doesn't get merit then you can earn merit by sharing your posts in below threads.

Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
[FUN][In Merit] Post Count Down To Your Next Rank Here.
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed

Yes indeed. I post too much off topic, I rarely post anywhere else like economics and bitcoin discussions.

I really don't have enough experience, but yeah I'll try not to post off topic all the time.

[MiliMil]

I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion!

[acroman08]

I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion!

you don't have to immediately have to contribute to topics. if you have no knowledge on said topics you can either search them up or ask here on the forum. to be honest, if your only reason for reading and learning is to get merit you might get disappointed. not every post gets merited even if it is useful. my advice is to read and learn not because of might get merits when you post but because you are actually curious and wants to learn.

[kamvreto]

Posting on bitcoin discussion and beginners may be a good place for you, you can follow the discussion by providing weighted responses and not just one line. if you have limited insight, you can first read about the topic being discussed, then you can respond to what you can respond well to. the more often you do it the more accustomed it will be. You've been on this forum long enough and you already know what to do.
someone will not give you merit if your post does not deserve it. you really have to try. it's not easy to rank up, but if you keep learning you can do it easily.

[GigaBit]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

I'm also newbie, as a beginner so if you want to rank up and earn merits, you need to contribute and make quality posts to show that you're active. When you put in the effort to produce quality posts, you'll start earning merit for your contributions to the forum, and as soon as you do, you'll rank higher than you think.

As per the rules enacted from 24th January 2018, a user of the forum must earn adequate merit to achieve the next rank. It is definitely an effective rule that enables forum discussions to be more meaningful. Since the forum is a platform for discussion of different kinds of things with receiving and giving merit against meaning full knowledgeable or informative post, no one can achieve any rank without having it. But if one uses his or her talent it is possible to easily achieve the rank within the specific time frame. We know the clear road map on how a newbie can achieve that top rank. If a newbie wishes, then he or she can gradually move towards the goal.

[Fara Chan]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Yes, of course you have to get merit to change/raise your rank, but you have to meet other requirements besides getting merit, in the form of Activity.

New/Beginner (0 activities, 0 achievements) Member
junior (30 activities, 1 achievement required)
Members ( 60 activities, 10 achievements required)
Full member (120 activities, 100 achievements required)
Senior members (240 activities, 250 achievements required)
Hero members (480 activities, 500 achievements required)
Legendary member (960-1000 activity, 1000 achievement required)

or you can visit the link below
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.msg51993801#msg51993801

[harapan]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Unfortunately without merit you can't rank up and this only happened as a way to fight forum spam and low quality posts that went rampant few years back , but don't sweat it, the merit system is easy to understand using the analogy of how humans need food to grow and that food is in the form of merit here & without it you won't grow...

The Merit system improved the forum to a large level according to old timers here

It was a means to help fight spamming and bounty hunting machines who post all for the sake of earnings.

All that really matters now is how well you cintrubute to the forum and make your post educative fir others to learn. You need merit and activity to get higher and higher. But becoming a better poster and improvement in on self is all that mean now

[Shamm]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Yes, of course you have to get merit to change/raise your rank, but you have to meet other requirements besides getting merit, in the form of Activity.

New/Beginner (0 activities, 0 achievements) Member
junior (30 activities, 1 achievement required)
Members ( 60 activities, 10 achievements required)
Full member (120 activities, 100 achievements required)
Senior members (240 activities, 250 achievements required)
Hero members (480 activities, 500 achievements required)
Legendary member (960-1000 activity, 1000 achievement required)

or you can visit the link below
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.msg51993801#msg51993801

Yes absolutely correct mate not just merit can take you to a high rank but Activity as well. Yes merits is very useful for everyone of here in order to to see ourselves if we are doing great or not because once the other user gaves you merits.  It because they will like your post or they learn something from your topics. And lastly like what other said above the moderator implemented the merit system in order to prevent spam and low quality post.

[Sandra_hakeem]

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

This has obviously explained that you haven't read through the rules and the sticky notes on each and every board-- including this one....no you haven't, if you have then you won't be asking a question like this.
Merit is very important to achieve a rank in here, AFAIK... You've been seeing alot of peeps with different merit count; that's not just fancied anyways, it's really something anyone should get if you must rank up in here. It's been happening way back; when peeps only needed few or much activity ratio to rank up, it's pretty different now as everyone new in here -- after the merit system had to pass through the same process... Earning merit is a different ball game entirely.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Coyster]

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion!

Mind you too that earning merits do not come quite fast for most users, though there are some exceptional users that have Bitcoin/crypto/any unique knowledge even before they ever became a user on this forum, thus earning merits could be easier for such users even in their early days in their forum, but the thing is that most users aren't like that, that is why it is usually a slow and interesting process for most.

Having said that, since you are a newbie don't forget to take your time to learn, if you do not have knowledge to contribute to topics now, then don't, use this time to garner that essential knowledge. You also don't have to hope to get merited, or to post solely to get merited, just garner knowledge and contribute to the forum because you want to discuss/communicate and you'd definitely get merits.

[_BlackStar]

This has obviously explained that you haven't read through the rules and the sticky notes on each and every board-- including this one....no you haven't, if you have then you won't be asking a question like this.

It is a fact that a lack of reading habits will lead one to get lost even if it is quite clearly sticky on the main page. OP didn't read or could have easily dismissed it, but now he has nice addition to how to use the forum.

Merit doesn't come suddenly without some extra effort put into making quality posts. Not a single newbie after the implementation of this merit system will rank up if they don't care about the quality of the posts ^{[nothing is magical]} unless some of their friends support their futile efforts. But by reading a lot, understanding the rules and getting good idea for post, they will have a good chance of getting what they want. OP should realize that the merit system is the most successful way of preventing rank up spammers, and that's how it is.