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July 17, 2023, 06:57:03 PM
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But I still believe that the Saudi Pro League will still exist and will probably be the best league in the world if the league and financial management improves by consistently bringing in world-class players.
No. I am willing to bet that the class of the Saudi Pro league will be below the other leagues, especially the big European leagues.
Saudi Pro League is indeed the concern of many parties, especially those who idolize players.
Parties engaged in the business sector will see how enthusiastic the audience is at each match to allow them to offer themselves as main sponsors.

Apart from the Chinese super league, MLS has also had many well-known players in the world of professional football for a long time, but the MLS rating is also not as high as other European leagues.
It's more business.

Right. I'm not sure if the Saudi professional league will be the best league in the world, because after all in all aspects it is still far behind the top European leagues. It's true, now this competition is getting great attention from the eyes of the world, especially for football lovers. however apparently, their goals and targets are not what we discussed. I have other opinions and points of view, but it is clear that if I describe them, they will widen in all aspects. so, I prefer to discuss it only in the scope of football. ideally, this competition will be the top competition when compared to competitions in Asia. also, the progress of football in this country will gradually grow much more. and it seems, from a football point of view, this is the most ideal philosophy to describe it.

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July 17, 2023, 06:58:27 PM
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The arrival of a number of world star players including Cristiano Ronaldo certainly had a positive effect on the Saudi Pro League. But it's a shame if what you say is true because if the club's finances are not healthy then the Saudi Professional League is also under threat. This reminds me of the Chinese Super League, which probably has a process similar to what the Saudi League clubs do. But I still believe that the Saudi Pro League will still exist and will probably be the best league in the world if the league and financial management improves by consistently bringing in world-class players.
Ronaldo has the biggest fans base. Bringing him to the SPL already made a very big impact to the popularity of saudi club right now. People were also very often talking about saudi club and the developments in the league.
That proves that ronaldo's recruitment has been giving massive impact to the SPL. The popularity from the league is increasing with the goes of time.
I would not be surprised if people gonna consider SPL as one of biggest league in the future as long as there will always be money to be supplied to the SPL.

I think the clubs here in the Professional League cannot be compared financially with the clubs in the Chinese Super League because after all, the Saudi Professional League has Ronaldo while the Chinese Super League does not have a much number of star players like Al Nassr, Al Hilal and Al Ittihad. Thus, the two leagues have different efforts and thus, i'm quite sure that the Saudi Professional League will continue to grow. So, the capacity of the Saudi Professional League is certainly greater and I'm sure it will last a long time too, because they have money that is probably unlimited.

I think another pro, Saudi LEague have is the closeness to europe, i can see in the future the Saudi teams can join more european competitions, after all they are more in the esphere of europe than in the Asia/china one.

Like Concafas now after MEssi arrival joining Libertadores Cup from Conmebol.

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July 17, 2023, 07:40:07 PM
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Right. I'm not sure if the Saudi professional league will be the best league in the world, because after all in all aspects it is still far behind the top European leagues. It's true, now this competition is getting great attention from the eyes of the world, especially for football lovers. however apparently, their goals and targets are not what we discussed. I have other opinions and points of view, but it is clear that if I describe them, they will widen in all aspects. so, I prefer to discuss it only in the scope of football. ideally, this competition will be the top competition when compared to competitions in Asia. also, the progress of football in this country will gradually grow much more. and it seems, from a football point of view, this is the most ideal philosophy to describe it.

Before Ronaldo and other players came to this league was still the best in Asia almost every season the winners of the Asian Champions League come from this league no need to compare anymore. Imagine if Messi joined the saudi league it might be the most watched league unfortunately Messi is not yet interested but I'm sure in the end Messi will come here as Ronaldo main competitor maybe after his contract expires in MLS.

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July 17, 2023, 07:52:01 PM
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I think it's early too, however it's hardly about the money. The amount of the deal rumoured is not that big, around $20 million, maybe even $35 million, plus the wages aren't as stunning as other players either. Maybe that's because he's not as big a player as the Saudis seem to think he is
My guess if mahrez has another reason why he was agreed in moving from manchester city to go to the saudi club like al ahli. His salary was not so big but that's good enough for him to receive it since his age is not young anymore. Saudi was not seeing him as one a player that must have received huge salary like benzema or cristiano ronaldo. Mahrez knows what was his reason in accepting ahli's offer. We can only speculate it but i do believe if money has also become one of main reason that drives him to go to the al ahli.
He gonna be playing with some players like firmino too. It's not a bad movement for him.

Mahrez will try to complete his movement to the al ahli as soon as possible. The fact that if everything looks fine for him right now. He is not willing to play in city even longer.
I remember pep wants him to stay but he refuses it by accepting al ahli's offer.

All in all, if that's the way it is, then yes, he really is better off moving to another club. If you look at his stats at Manchester City, he's not doing very well. Yes, he gets game time, and enough of it, but his goal stats leave a lot to be desired, but his assists are prevalent. Maybe he will score more often in Saudi Arabia, we'll see

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July 17, 2023, 08:05:42 PM
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Very good move to create this thread,  this is not just about Ronaldo world will know about Saudi league and their teams and players . Before this thread there are only European league threads , now this  will promote and develop people know how about Arab league .
How can only one player change the popularity of any country we are experiencing that now .
Looking forward to Ronaldos first match tomorrow .
Ronaldo's fan base has a huge influence on any league he strengthens. Serie A and Juventus have felt the effects after being strengthened by Ronaldo and Man United also felt the same way. As of today the number of followers on his Instagram account has reached 596 million, imagine that number beating the entire population of the United States. Naturally, I think the SPL is one of the most talked about leagues at the moment, apart from the Ronaldo effect, many top players and coaches have started to flock there.

The SPL will start on August 12 and we will see new names such as Benzema, Kante, Fermino and Coach Steven Gerrad there. The transfer market has not yet been closed, so there is a possibility that more new recruits from various top European leagues will come to the SPL.

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For quality improvement yeah right I agree that was one of the impacts when bringing in european players but from a business standpoint I really doubt it, I mean they won't get more profit for what they have spent. I've said it many times that business is not their main target, I think the main purpose of the promotion I mean they want to promote other projects through this League it's just that not everyone realizes it. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years Saudi Arabia will host the world cup but don't think that this is their main target this is another part of the promotion stage.
I realize that too, only I don't say it as often as you do. There are other targets that the Arabs want to achieve besides business and improving the quality of their league, but something like promoting themselves as the home team for a future World Cup may also be on their list of plans.

I don't really follow much of the Arab Pro League other than the fact that many of Europe's top players have joined. The Arab Pro League may be getting competitive, but that development isn't going to be big in short term. Long-term projects are much more likely to be prioritized, but they do take a lot of money, planning and investment.

I agree with @BitcoinHunt3r on the point that I also do not follow the Saudi league too closely, to be honest. I also just know that a lot of older players are moving to the Saudi league because of the potential of earning huge amounts of money. But I think this was just the tip of the iceberg. They are planning to make the league popular and then they will bring in younger and interesting players to make the league more competitive. Right now obviously they cannot bring in someone like Mbappé. Doesn’t matter how much money they give him, he is not going to go to the Saudi league. At least I hope so, because I know that he has a soft spot for money.

Anyway, I think this is certainly a long-term plan for the Saudis. We know that they are very good when it comes to business. And business is what they are trying to do with the Saudi league. I am actually interested. I am not interested in what is happening right now in the Saudi League, but I am interested to see what will happen to the Saudi League two years later.

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Right. I'm not sure if the Saudi professional league will be the best league in the world, because after all in all aspects it is still far behind the top European leagues. It's true, now this competition is getting great attention from the eyes of the world, especially for football lovers. however apparently, their goals and targets are not what we discussed. I have other opinions and points of view, but it is clear that if I describe them, they will widen in all aspects. so, I prefer to discuss it only in the scope of football. ideally, this competition will be the top competition when compared to competitions in Asia. also, the progress of football in this country will gradually grow much more. and it seems, from a football point of view, this is the most ideal philosophy to describe it.
I think the Arab Goal is not to be able to compete with European Leagues. But as a means of entertainment for their people, they also add tourist destinations to make them more attractive. It is hoped that the presence of Ronaldo, Benzema, and other star players will attract many tourists to come. Especially the fans who want to see them in person. This will certainly affect other Asian leagues to shine even more in the eyes of the world.

Of course, the most important goal in the short term may be to succeed in building the prestige of the club in the league, but is it also beneficial for the development of the Saudi Arabian football national team itself, especially the development of young players in the future who will become Saudi Arabian national team players in the future?

Before Ronaldo and other players came to this league was still the best in Asia almost every season the winners of the Asian Champions League come from this league no need to compare anymore. Imagine if Messi joined the saudi league it might be the most watched league unfortunately Messi is not yet interested but I'm sure in the end Messi will come here as Ronaldo main competitor maybe after his contract expires in MLS.
It's true, as you said, before Ronaldo came, the Arab League had developed and had its history in Asia. And basically, the level of play and the strength of the Saudi Arabian league clubs are strong enough in Asia. for example, Al hilal the club that won the most Asian champion leagues, they have also led Arab representatives to the club world cup final, this is very different from the MLS league and the Chinese league where their level of play is still not strong, only one MLS representative in history has only appeared in the world cup, and even then immediately fell in the early rounds.

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Before Ronaldo and other players came to this league was still the best in Asia almost every season the winners of the Asian Champions League come from this league no need to compare anymore. Imagine if Messi joined the saudi league it might be the most watched league unfortunately Messi is not yet interested but I'm sure in the end Messi will come here as Ronaldo main competitor maybe after his contract expires in MLS.

Doubtful. I didn't hear that MLS became the most watched league (and I don't remember anything about Ligue 1 either). Individuals are important, but the average is the most important, although I am sure that if the Saudis could somehow lure Mbappe and Haaland into their league now, it would explode interest in them.

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Right. I'm not sure if the Saudi professional league will be the best league in the world, because after all in all aspects it is still far behind the top European leagues. It's true, now this competition is getting great attention from the eyes of the world, especially for football lovers. however apparently, their goals and targets are not what we discussed. I have other opinions and points of view, but it is clear that if I describe them, they will widen in all aspects. so, I prefer to discuss it only in the scope of football. ideally, this competition will be the top competition when compared to competitions in Asia. also, the progress of football in this country will gradually grow much more. and it seems, from a football point of view, this is the most ideal philosophy to describe it.
I think the Arab Goal is not to be able to compete with European Leagues. But as a means of entertainment for their people, they also add tourist destinations to make them more attractive. It is hoped that the presence of Ronaldo, Benzema, and other star players will attract many tourists to come. Especially the fans who want to see them in person. This will certainly affect other Asian leagues to shine even more in the eyes of the world.

Of course, the most important goal in the short term may be to succeed in building the prestige of the club in the league, but is it also beneficial for the development of the Saudi Arabian football national team itself, especially the development of young players in the future who will become Saudi Arabian national team players in the future?

Before Ronaldo and other players came to this league was still the best in Asia almost every season the winners of the Asian Champions League come from this league no need to compare anymore. Imagine if Messi joined the saudi league it might be the most watched league unfortunately Messi is not yet interested but I'm sure in the end Messi will come here as Ronaldo main competitor maybe after his contract expires in MLS.
It's true, as you said, before Ronaldo came, the Arab League had developed and had its history in Asia. And basically, the level of play and the strength of the Saudi Arabian league clubs are strong enough in Asia. for example, Al hilal the club that won the most Asian champion leagues, they have also led Arab representatives to the club world cup final, this is very different from the MLS league and the Chinese league where their level of play is still not strong, only one MLS representative in history has only appeared in the world cup, and even then immediately fell in the early rounds.
The Saudi Arabian League was indeed has always been the best league in the middle East even before the arrival of star footballers like Cristiano Ronaldo and other European.
However the league wasn't as popular to global football audience as it is currently. The signing of these European players have significantly raise the awareness of the league to world and that is actually one the very reason of the huge investments

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I realize that too, only I don't say it as often as you do. There are other targets that the Arabs want to achieve besides business and improving the quality of their league, but something like promoting themselves as the home team for a future World Cup may also be on their list of plans.

I don't really follow much of the Arab Pro League other than the fact that many of Europe's top players have joined. The Arab Pro League may be getting competitive, but that development isn't going to be big in short term. Long-term projects are much more likely to be prioritized, but they do take a lot of money, planning and investment.
The Saudi Arabia pro league is getting more and more famous after they recruited many of Europe's top players. Indeed, apart from all that, of course we didn't really follow the development of the Saudi Arabia pro League before Ronaldo joined there.  Seeing the progress that is happening at this time, surely the Arabs or club owners will continue to maintain this trend in their long-term projects. Strong finances is one of the steps that made them stronger in the transfer window. As time goes on, we have seen some of Europe's top players in one team in the Saudi Arabian League, which of course the signing will continue as long as they want because of the relatively good financial factors.

Some old age players can close their careers in the saudi arabia pro league, because they can get a bigger salary compared to before they joined the saudi arabia league team. Ronaldo is one of the players who has a large enough income every season with Al Nassr. I think the offer of a bigger salary is an attraction for top European players to join the Saudi Arabian League club.  Now, if you look at the quality of the players who have been brought in, they are also very popular in the world of football, like Benzema, so the Saudi Arabian Pro League will be very competitive next season.

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I realize that too, only I don't say it as often as you do. There are other targets that the Arabs want to achieve besides business and improving the quality of their league, but something like promoting themselves as the home team for a future World Cup may also be on their list of plans.

With their success in making their league more popular than ever before by bringing in Europe's finest players, securing a spot in the World Cup in the future will be easy to do.  I have a strong suspicion that this is one of their top goals, and that everything is proceeding as planned.

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I don't really follow much of the Arab Pro League other than the fact that many of Europe's top players have joined. The Arab Pro League may be getting competitive, but that development isn't going to be big in short term. Long-term projects are much more likely to be prioritized, but they do take a lot of money, planning and investment.

When it comes to money, strategy, and investment, I'm sure the Arabs have previously done it before reaching this point. They must have spent a lot of money to sign those top players into their leagues currently. Long-term projects can also be completed in a short period of time if proper planning and execution, as well as financing, are in place. The Arabs will reach their planned goals sooner since they are making progress in football already.

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July 17, 2023, 11:02:07 PM
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With their success in making their league more popular than ever before by bringing in Europe's finest players, securing a spot in the World Cup in the future will be easy to do.  I have a strong suspicion that this is one of their top goals, and that everything is proceeding as planned.

I don't think they have eyes on the world cup just yet. A country from that region just hosted the last world cup and although it was a huge success, the world cup won't be going there soon.
The Arabs have more short term goals and that include the olmpic games and other massive sports completions. They're not stopping at football. They also know that opening their country up like this will drive tourism in the region.
Their objective doesn't end at football because their are also economic gains from this development. More tourist means more exposure, more exposure brings more investors.
So they're not spending billions on player just because they want to compete with the European leagues.

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July 17, 2023, 11:09:49 PM
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Right. I'm not sure if the Saudi professional league will be the best league in the world, because after all in all aspects it is still far behind the top European leagues. It's true, now this competition is getting great attention from the eyes of the world, especially for football lovers. however apparently, their goals and targets are not what we discussed. I have other opinions and points of view, but it is clear that if I describe them, they will widen in all aspects. so, I prefer to discuss it only in the scope of football. ideally, this competition will be the top competition when compared to competitions in Asia. also, the progress of football in this country will gradually grow much more. and it seems, from a football point of view, this is the most ideal philosophy to describe it.

Saudi professional league can't be the best league in the world and I don't think that's what they're trying to accomplish with all the money they're spending on signing players yet only attracting deadwood to their league. They're just trying to be among the top league in the world and that they can achieved because other leagues has been slacking backwards. If SPL can get players of young blood to bring fire into their league it'll be very beneficial to them because with the old players they're just signing, I don't think we should be expecting much on the field. These players are only going to Saudi Arabia because of the money and not the passion to play football.

Also the clubs in Saudis Pro league aren't playing on the biggest stages like the champions league and since they aren't eligible due to them not playing in Europe, they won't be the best league in the world, they only participate in club world cup which isn't considered a top competition since the champions league winners are always guarantee of winning the club world cup due to the poor quality of clubs competing in the tournament. The club world cup is just seen as a free trophy. SPL should focus on attracting young players and they shouldn't use money for this instead they should increase the quality of football been played over there.

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July 17, 2023, 11:19:02 PM
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The first player from La Liga will join Al Ettifaq soon, Gerard's next target will be Karim Rekik, a Dutch defender from Sevilla and Gerard wants to hire this player for the next season. We know this team got a good financial situation for Rekik to buy as Gerard wants.
He played for Manchester City too, and he played 21 games in Sevilla this season.


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July 17, 2023, 11:37:42 PM
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I think after this big rush of transfer and making a really big spend on this transfer window, Saudi teams or emirates teams now can play one really strong and wild card in their favour. And this card its RELIGION, yes a lot of players are muslim, so they can put that in their favour.
I can't agree with it. Why can't you accept the fact that if money has become the main reason why some european players decided in moved to the saudi pro league? It's not always being linked with their religion.

What about neves, brozovic, henderson, savic, firmino and many more? If religion gonna be their main motive to join in the saudi pro league and they will never do that. Anything related to the religion is still remain a sensitive case.

They wanted to join the Saudi Pro League because of the attractive offers. I can't deny if a player like benzema joined due to the his religion but it's only him. It's not happening with all of players joined in the saudi pro league

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July 18, 2023, 01:22:11 AM
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The first player from La Liga will join Al Ettifaq soon, Gerard's next target will be Karim Rekik, a Dutch defender from Sevilla and Gerard wants to hire this player for the next season. We know this team got a good financial situation for Rekik to buy as Gerard wants.
He played for Manchester City too, and he played 21 games in Sevilla this season.

As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, this is a win-win situation for the players. Even those who don't want to move to Saudi Arabia are going to benefit from all this drama, as they have greater bargaining power now. That said, Rekik is an important component in the defense for Sevilla. Without him, Sevilla is going to be much weakened. And this is going to be the pattern we are going to witness across the European leagues. A lot of teams will be left weakened as a result of the player inflow to Saudi Clubs. BTW, how much is Al-Ettifaq offering for Rekik?

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July 18, 2023, 02:16:35 AM
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I can't agree with it. Why can't you accept the fact that if money has become the main reason why some european players decided in moved to the saudi pro league? It's not always being linked with their religion.

What about neves, brozovic, henderson, savic, firmino and many more? If religion gonna be their main motive to join in the saudi pro league and they will never do that. Anything related to the religion is still remain a sensitive case.

They wanted to join the Saudi Pro League because of the attractive offers. I can't deny if a player like benzema joined due to the his religion but it's only him. It's not happening with all of players joined in the saudi pro league

Some European player leaves their career in top Europe teams for receiving much money with Saudi Pro League teams, all players can earn more 10x bigger salary than stay with Europe teams. There are not reason about religion because some Europe players are not Moslem except Benzema and Nkante. Great opportunity with fantastic salary coming once in their career, I don't think many Europe players waste this moment where earn much salary than their achievement with European teams despite they are on top or end career but has bigger chance for playing with Saudi  Pro League teams.

Almost all target success bring to Saudi Pro League teams although have some player denied like Lukaku, but at the end money is everything and make some Europe players want leave their career in Europe teams for getting bigger salary.

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July 18, 2023, 02:42:04 AM
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although I am sure that if the Saudis could somehow lure Mbappe and Haaland into their league now, it would explode interest in them.
Mbappe and Haaland? that will never happen, at least not yet. Mbappe and Erling Braut Haaland are considered the future of the sport, they will not terminate their career that looks very promising to go play in Saudi Arabia even if they are offered a tempting amount of money to do so. Look at their record at such young age for both players, they have achieved a lot, and there is still more to achieve to the extent of winning the most priced football award. They know moving to the Saudi League will end any chance of winning the Balon, if they decide to move for the money. The young players who are agreeing to move to Saudi, know that they do not have a chance to win the Balon d'or, so they are in it for the money mostly.

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July 18, 2023, 02:48:31 AM
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As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, this is a win-win situation for the players. Even those who don't want to move to Saudi Arabia are going to benefit from all this drama, as they have greater bargaining power now. That said, Rekik is an important component in the defense for Sevilla. Without him, Sevilla is going to be much weakened. And this is going to be the pattern we are going to witness across the European leagues. A lot of teams will be left weakened as a result of the player inflow to Saudi Clubs. BTW, how much is Al-Ettifaq offering for Rekik?
The finest players moving to Saudi clubs for the enormous wages they would receive serve only to increase the league's popularity. As a result, these European clubs' performances will not deteriorate; rather, they will find replacements for their departing important players, as football substitutes are always available, and these backup replacements may even be more effective than the crucial players. We all know Sevilla is an outstanding competitive team in La Liga; of course, Luis Mendilibar's men will not hold back in their performance; they will push even harder for higher league results.

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July 18, 2023, 02:52:03 AM
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Mbappe and Haaland? that will never happen, at least not yet. Mbappe and Erling Braut Haaland are considered the future of the sport, they will not terminate their career that looks very promising to go play in Saudi Arabia even if they are offered a tempting amount of money to do so.
Haaland and Mbappe have many choices and they are very ambitious players so at their ages now, it is impossible to see them playing in Saudi Professional League. Because it will affect their career in national team, performances in big tournaments and if they move to Saudi, they will have to stay there at least two years. They only have zero tax if they spend a whole year which belongs to 2 seasons in Saudi.

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Look at their record at such young age for both players, they have achieved a lot, and there is still more to achieve to the extent of winning the most priced football award. They know moving to the Saudi League will end any chance of winning the Balon, if they decide to move for the money. The young players who are agreeing to move to Saudi, know that they do not have a chance to win the Balon d'or, so they are in it for the money mostly.
Champions League and Ballon d'Or, they will not have such if they move to Saudi Professional League. They are young enough to think of retiring too early like that. Maybe we can return to their future in Saudi Professional League when they are around 28 to 30 years old because at such age, they can consider more about money from Saudi Arabian clubs if they satisfy with their achievements in Europe.

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