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August 08, 2023, 07:33:54 AM
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How that is going to work? Currently the four teams with direct sponsorship from the Public Investment Fund are splurging money on purchasing players. These clubs are Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Nassr. There are 12 other clubs in the Saudi Professional League who doesn't have this luxury. And this means that the matches between top-4 teams and the remaining teams are likely to be one-sided. And now you are suggesting that the Saudis should just concentrate on just one club. That will be bad for the health of the league, I am afraid.
Many football lovers will watched Saudi pro league. Saudi Arabia clubs are favorites to make their league more popular. But they should asked themselves this question, if they continue to sign players, ofcourse there salary expenditure will decrease as the year passes by. These elite clubs that are fortunate to benefits from the Public Investment Fund. These clubs are the leading teams in signing players from European clubs, and they offered gigantic offers for both average and top players. We have top players that will be able to compete in elite competitions.

I think in a few years, these player expenses will be a big problem for Saudi Arabia. For now, they are transferring all the players, but they will not get their money's worth. If such high money does not have profitability, it will cause great damage to these teams. They need to control their spending.

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August 08, 2023, 10:26:12 AM
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I think in a few years, these player expenses will be a big problem for Saudi Arabia. For now, they are transferring all the players, but they will not get their money's worth. If such high money does not have profitability, it will cause great damage to these teams. They need to control their spending.
Saudi was not as strict as europa league. I think that the salary expenses will not be a problem for saudi caused by it has thousands of billions money to support it. The only main threat for saudi club if UEFA will be releasing a regulation to prevent saudi to buy the players from european league as many as possible. If this is the biggest threat for the saudi club. Saudi pro league becomes very big caused by it was massively buying a lot of european players right now. Im thinking about the possibility for saudi club to be even crazy to buy as many european players as possible before the world cup. The primary aim from buying a lot of players to support the club to be the potential candidate to host world cup next years. So many european coaches have been also realizing if saudi can be the biggest threat for the european club in the transfer market.
It's caused by saudi clubs were always offering crazy money to recruit the new players. I think this is the problem. I do like how saudi becomes bigger and bigger.

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August 08, 2023, 12:08:55 PM
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How that is going to work? Currently the four teams with direct sponsorship from the Public Investment Fund are splurging money on purchasing players. These clubs are Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Nassr. There are 12 other clubs in the Saudi Professional League who doesn't have this luxury. And this means that the matches between top-4 teams and the remaining teams are likely to be one-sided. And now you are suggesting that the Saudis should just concentrate on just one club. That will be bad for the health of the league, I am afraid.
Many football lovers will watched Saudi pro league. Saudi Arabia clubs are favorites to make their league more popular. But they should asked themselves this question, if they continue to sign players, ofcourse there salary expenditure will decrease as the year passes by. These elite clubs that are fortunate to benefits from the Public Investment Fund. These clubs are the leading teams in signing players from European clubs, and they offered gigantic offers for both average and top players. We have top players that will be able to compete in elite competitions.
Actually apart from the 4 clubs under PIF there is also one other club which is also active in hunting for European players in this transfer market. Namely Al Ettifaq FC, this club has succeeded in recruiting 3 European players in this transfer market, namely Jordan Henderson, Moussa Dembele and Jack Hendry. And maybe other clubs in the SPL will also start to follow suit to sign European players next season. Because of course other clubs definitely don't want to miss the quality of the game. And yeah, the league will be even more exciting this season. And I believe next season will be even more fierce.

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August 08, 2023, 01:55:30 PM
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I think Mohamed Salah is still in Jurgen Klopp's plans for next season and it looks like Al-Ittihad's offer will soon be rejected by Mohamed Salah. We know his colleagues at Liverpool have already gone to the Saudi league this summer but Mohamed Salah still seems to want to wear the Liverpool shirt even though he is well aware that he will not play in the Champions League next season.

At least Mohamed Salah's loyalty to Liverpool will be tested with so much money from Al-Ittihad. He is a Muslim, this should make it easier for him to perform his prayers and continue his football career. Well, whatever decision Mohamed Salah makes before the summer ends, at least it will show that his desire to play in Europe is still there or has disappeared.
Here I have feeling most chances Mohammad Salah understand all situation at Liverpool and Jürgen Klopp giving him good favor so with this all most chances he will not accept any offer from the Al-Ittihad even this is too good, but he is also important player for the club and coach in long run with Al-Ittihad is also in negotiation with João Félix about any possible transfer because Atlético Madrid is also looking to sell him with no European club is going to accept this price for him, and they are already giving over their demand which is also good for them.

With your second statement, I am not agreed because even he is Muslim and Saudi League and place is good, but he is also doing all things without any problem in England, and he is happy for many years, so this is completely not point of talk right now as well.
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August 08, 2023, 03:11:10 PM
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I think it was a great change for Sadio Mane. Anyone with a little football interest now knew that he was not happy at Bayern. A new struggle for Mane has begun. He is ready to give his best in this league. I think Mane is one of the best players in SPL and I'm sure he will play at the top level in this league.
Agreed about this because this change can bring his career back to track, or now he will be out and down from this level as well this all is available for him but most chances if he is able to fight with his fitness and have no injury issue then most chances he can do much better than last season at the Bayern Munich and then have his spot back into any good European club which will allow him for game which is really suitable for him as well.

Sadio Mané is now 31 years old and after two years he still has some chance for the game in European because many clubs still love to have players like him at this age because they feel experience and skills both are shining and with fitness and energetic mindset player can give his best recently we have few good examples, but this all depends on fitness.

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August 08, 2023, 03:17:31 PM
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I think it was a great change for Sadio Mane. Anyone with a little football interest now knew that he was not happy at Bayern. A new struggle for Mane has begun. He is ready to give his best in this league. I think Mane is one of the best players in SPL and I'm sure he will play at the top level in this league.
Agreed about this because this change can bring his career back to track, or now he will be out and down from this level as well this all is available for him but most chances if he is able to fight with his fitness and have no injury issue then most chances he can do much better than last season at the Bayern Munich and then have his spot back into any good European club which will allow him for game which is really suitable for him as well.

Sadio Mané is now 31 years old and after two years he still has some chance for the game in European because many clubs still love to have players like him at this age because they feel experience and skills both are shining and with fitness and energetic mindset player can give his best recently we have few good examples, but this all depends on fitness.
I've never doubted the footballing abilities of Sadio Mane despite his very unusual performance in the shirts in of Bayern Munich last season. I knew there was something he wasn't comfortable with which was the reason behind his decline in form.
Now that the Senegalese superstar is with a club that allows him to freely display his best in the pitch, I know he'll be one of the best in Saudi League next season. He has the experience and he's fully fit as well and surely he'll deliver

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August 08, 2023, 03:45:46 PM
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I think Mohamed Salah is still in Jurgen Klopp's plans for next season and it looks like Al-Ittihad's offer will soon be rejected by Mohamed Salah. We know his colleagues at Liverpool have already gone to the Saudi league this summer but Mohamed Salah still seems to want to wear the Liverpool shirt even though he is well aware that he will not play in the Champions League next season.

At least Mohamed Salah's loyalty to Liverpool will be tested with so much money from Al-Ittihad. He is a Muslim, this should make it easier for him to perform his prayers and continue his football career. Well, whatever decision Mohamed Salah makes before the summer ends, at least it will show that his desire to play in Europe is still there or has disappeared.
Here I have feeling most chances Mohammad Salah understand all situation at Liverpool and Jürgen Klopp giving him good favor so with this all most chances he will not accept any offer from the Al-Ittihad even this is too good, but he is also important player for the club and coach in long run with Al-Ittihad is also in negotiation with João Félix about any possible transfer because Atlético Madrid is also looking to sell him with no European club is going to accept this price for him, and they are already giving over their demand which is also good for them.

With your second statement, I am not agreed because even he is Muslim and Saudi League and place is good, but he is also doing all things without any problem in England, and he is happy for many years, so this is completely not point of talk right now as well.
This year, Al-Ittihad actively strengthened its forces when recruiting Karim Benzema. However, this club is still not satisfied, and they still plan to look for new signings. Meanwhile, Liverpool lost Fabinho, and he moved to Al-Ittihad. Liverpool will do everything to keep the Egyptian player.  Salah is still the #1 trigger in their attack. Salah's importance to the team is so great that he should stay and contribute more to the club before considering any transfer offers. Salah signed a three-year contract with Liverpool last year. Best he doesn't ruin his career in the Saudi Arabian league at 31.

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August 08, 2023, 05:08:22 PM
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That is why Saudis ended up getting players distributed to the teams instead of finding one good team and just build on that. The idea would be to build a competition, so that there is something to watch, if you end up putting great players in different teams then you have two even three good teams and they would all go for champions title and that should be the important difference.

I believe that we could probably do something that would be entertaining that way. I am not sure how it will move on, but as long as it is going like this then there is nothing to worry about neither. I know that it will take a while before we could see this change, but at the end of  the day we are talking about a great return of their investment.
How that is going to work? Currently the four teams with direct sponsorship from the Public Investment Fund are splurging money on purchasing players. These clubs are Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Nassr. There are 12 other clubs in the Saudi Professional League who doesn't have this luxury. And this means that the matches between top-4 teams and the remaining teams are likely to be one-sided. And now you are suggesting that the Saudis should just concentrate on just one club. That will be bad for the health of the league, I am afraid.
I agree about this all but they are still doing instead of favoring one or two clubs, they are having four clubs which are going to compete each other for the top spots and fans will be able to have good title race between them, I was surprised may be this is typo mistake because you write Al-Nassr two times, and we have fourth club Al-Ahli if I am correct and this public Investment Fund is also owning Newcastle Untied as well.

Even this all is wired, but maybe they have something strategy about this all because if they want to bring good competition and better environment then surely they need to work on one club per one company or person because this will do much better but right now we are in early phase of this all, so they are doing things like they feel better about this all and in future we will have more changes in this all.

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August 08, 2023, 05:29:43 PM
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How that is going to work? Currently the four teams with direct sponsorship from the Public Investment Fund are splurging money on purchasing players. These clubs are Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Nassr. There are 12 other clubs in the Saudi Professional League who doesn't have this luxury. And this means that the matches between top-4 teams and the remaining teams are likely to be one-sided. And now you are suggesting that the Saudis should just concentrate on just one club. That will be bad for the health of the league, I am afraid.
Many football lovers will watched Saudi pro league. Saudi Arabia clubs are favorites to make their league more popular. But they should asked themselves this question, if they continue to sign players, ofcourse there salary expenditure will decrease as the year passes by. These elite clubs that are fortunate to benefits from the Public Investment Fund. These clubs are the leading teams in signing players from European clubs, and they offered gigantic offers for both average and top players. We have top players that will be able to compete in elite competitions.

I think in a few years, these player expenses will be a big problem for Saudi Arabia. For now, they are transferring all the players, but they will not get their money's worth. If such high money does not have profitability, it will cause great damage to these teams. They need to control their spending.

There are two other teams that have stars in their squads as well and they are Al-Ettifaq and Al Ahli and also, you mentioned Al-Nassr twice. In fact, Al-Ettifaq has Gerrard as its head coach and with that, the competition in the Saudi Pro League will remain interesting and not one-sided as you suggest. After all, when a league only has a few top teams it is normal, because the reality is that the big leagues in Europe also only have a few top teams and not evenly.

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August 08, 2023, 05:54:59 PM
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I think in a few years, these player expenses will be a big problem for Saudi Arabia. For now, they are transferring all the players, but they will not get their money's worth. If such high money does not have profitability, it will cause great damage to these teams. They need to control their spending.
Saudi was not as strict as europa league. I think that the salary expenses will not be a problem for saudi caused by it has thousands of billions money to support it. The only main threat for saudi club if UEFA will be releasing a regulation to prevent saudi to buy the players from european league as many as possible. If this is the biggest threat for the saudi club. Saudi pro league becomes very big caused by it was massively buying a lot of european players right now. Im thinking about the possibility for saudi club to be even crazy to buy as many european players as possible before the world cup. The primary aim from buying a lot of players to support the club to be the potential candidate to host world cup next years. So many european coaches have been also realizing if saudi can be the biggest threat for the european club in the transfer market.
It's caused by saudi clubs were always offering crazy money to recruit the new players. I think this is the problem. I do like how saudi becomes bigger and bigger.
You may think that it's nothing to them, but they are also not idiots who would like to spend money for nothing at all. Remember that 2030 world cup is still some ways to go and that means that they could make all this money back as well. If they do what Qatar did and overspend it, that would be still possible to make the money back because of tourism, they are trying to attract people to their nation and that means they are going to end up with a lot more eyes on them.

If the whole world football is looking at them as a good nation, a place to visit, they are going to get a lot of people as tourists and if not at least look at them as a good nation. This whitewashes every bad thing they have ever done, you don't think about Yemen when you watch Ronaldo, that's the point.

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August 08, 2023, 08:16:29 PM
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That is why Saudis ended up getting players distributed to the teams instead of finding one good team and just build on that. The idea would be to build a competition, so that there is something to watch, if you end up putting great players in different teams then you have two even three good teams and they would all go for champions title and that should be the important difference.

I believe that we could probably do something that would be entertaining that way. I am not sure how it will move on, but as long as it is going like this then there is nothing to worry about neither. I know that it will take a while before we could see this change, but at the end of  the day we are talking about a great return of their investment.

How that is going to work? Currently the four teams with direct sponsorship from the Public Investment Fund are splurging money on purchasing players. These clubs are Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Nassr. There are 12 other clubs in the Saudi Professional League who doesn't have this luxury. And this means that the matches between top-4 teams and the remaining teams are likely to be one-sided. And now you are suggesting that the Saudis should just concentrate on just one club. That will be bad for the health of the league, I am afraid.

I understand what you mean, but the royal party and FIP claim that the four clubs whose 75% shares were acquired, will still be managed by the clubs and the management themselves. there is no interference here, although it is too biased if a club is acquired by the state. however, the concept they are working on is a project to develop football in Saudi Arabia. in fact, the kingdom also involved the ministry of sports that overshadowed it.

I won't say specifically and in detail, but the efforts made by PIF are to develop Saudi football and at the same time target to host the 20230 world cup. That's why Ronaldo was named ambassador by the Saudis. besides that, PIF also has a club from the premier league, namely Newcastle. if we talk in the long term, it seems that Saudi Arabia is in a big project supported by PIF which is directly led by Mohammed bin Salman as well as the prince of Saudi Arabia.

IMO, for now we don't see the result of this investment especially for football. but my guess is that football is an entry point for the Saudis to develop their business. especially if in the end Saudi Arabia officially becomes the host in 2030. and if the project is a success, it is conceivable that they will engage in whatever business sector they plan to pursue.
By the way, some of what I said is personal assumption. regarding this competition, let's wait and see, is there any abuse that occurs, it's quite interesting isn't it.

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August 08, 2023, 08:32:12 PM
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Some of the players that are heading to the Saudi Pro League would not have considered it before Ronaldo went there. Now the money being poured in to that league is reaching levels that almost no player would say "no" to. If a mediocre player like Henderson (who is past his best) can go there to earn £700,000 per week as his career is about dry up and say he is really going to there because Gerrard will manage him, then we know it is not true.

Alongside Ronaldo we have seen Mane, Benzima, Kante and many others and I am sure many more will end up there while the transfer window is still open.

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August 08, 2023, 08:36:48 PM
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How that is going to work? Currently the four teams with direct sponsorship from the Public Investment Fund are splurging money on purchasing players. These clubs are Al-Ittihad, Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Nassr. There are 12 other clubs in the Saudi Professional League who doesn't have this luxury. And this means that the matches between top-4 teams and the remaining teams are likely to be one-sided. And now you are suggesting that the Saudis should just concentrate on just one club. That will be bad for the health of the league, I am afraid.
Many football lovers will watched Saudi pro league. Saudi Arabia clubs are favorites to make their league more popular. But they should asked themselves this question, if they continue to sign players, ofcourse there salary expenditure will decrease as the year passes by. These elite clubs that are fortunate to benefits from the Public Investment Fund. These clubs are the leading teams in signing players from European clubs, and they offered gigantic offers for both average and top players. We have top players that will be able to compete in elite competitions.

I think in a few years, these player expenses will be a big problem for Saudi Arabia. For now, they are transferring all the players, but they will not get their money's worth. If such high money does not have profitability, it will cause great damage to these teams. They need to control their spending.
I don't think that the Saudis are after making profits from the club in the short run. Have you asked how did they get the money that they are using to sign these European players and paying them with fat  pay. I think the strategy that they are doing is to bring the world attention to their country through football,which they have succeeded in the first part by hosting the world cup.

The next strategy is buying these European players which they started with Ronaldo as first. This season they have bought so many players and where is the money coming from,they are wealthy oil merchants,which they are well recognised for this. As long as the oil well doesn't dry off they can afford to pay the players.


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August 08, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
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In the end, Al-Nassr won 3-1 and they have an easy semi-final ahead of Al-Shorta. Al-Hilal, apparently, in turn, will easily defeat the winner of the Al-Shabab and Al-Wahda pair (damn what names I can break my tongue or fingers) and in the final we will see a confrontation between two Saudi teams.
By the way, Ronaldo scores the third match in a row  Cool
Since Ronaldo joined Al Nassr, he has dramatically increased performance. Every game, he scores one or two goals. Very extraordinary. In truth, the contest was great. I also believe Al Nassr will win the SPL this season. Their future seems amazing. In my opinion, this is something we should all pay attention to, not just pay attention but really, really focus on.

If I'm not mistaken, then if you take the averages, then they are even worse than in United. He had a good start but then his performance dropped. Maybe this is due to disappointment from the level of partners. If so, next season things should go well, although age now has more weight with each season and nothing can be sure.
Tomorrow we will see the semi-finals, but they will be largely formal, but this is a good opportunity to improve your statistics.

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August 08, 2023, 08:53:03 PM
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In the end, Al-Nassr won 3-1 and they have an easy semi-final ahead of Al-Shorta. Al-Hilal, apparently, in turn, will easily defeat the winner of the Al-Shabab and Al-Wahda pair (damn what names I can break my tongue or fingers) and in the final we will see a confrontation between two Saudi teams.
By the way, Ronaldo scores the third match in a row  Cool
Since Ronaldo joined Al Nassr, he has dramatically increased performance. Every game, he scores one or two goals. Very extraordinary. In truth, the contest was great. I also believe Al Nassr will win the SPL this season. Their future seems amazing. In my opinion, this is something we should all pay attention to, not just pay attention but really, really focus on.

If I'm not mistaken, then if you take the averages, then they are even worse than in United. He had a good start but then his performance dropped. Maybe this is due to disappointment from the level of partners. If so, next season things should go well, although age now has more weight with each season and nothing can be sure.
Tomorrow we will see the semi-finals, but they will be largely formal, but this is a good opportunity to improve your statistics.

But does this average even matter? I mean it's like saying that Ronaldo is peaking in his career when he scores 46 goals in 34 games for Al Nassr because he only scored 46 goals in his best La Liga season for Real Madrid in 38 games. To compare his performance across leagues and especially across leagues like the SPL and La Liga is so wrong. He is in great physical shape and should still be able to become the top scorer in the league, but that is never comparable to becoming the top scorer in La Liga when he competed with Messi.
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When Joja joined Al Ittihad Club there was much news from him and this transfer to Al Ittihad Club, this player 24-year-old, joined the Saudi league from Celtic. Now Al Ittihad is trying to give this player because they think he had a bad performance against AL Hilal and his bad performance was the reason for them to lose that game.
Other than this Al Ittihad is even trying to find a replacement for Joja and they sent an offer for Salah, however, they didn't accept the offer.



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When Joja joined Al Ittihad Club there was much news from him and this transfer to Al Ittihad Club, this player 24-year-old, joined the Saudi league from Celtic. Now Al Ittihad is trying to give this player because they think he had a bad performance against AL Hilal and his bad performance was the reason for them to lose that game.
Other than this Al Ittihad is even trying to find a replacement for Joja and they sent an offer for Salah, however, they didn't accept the offer.



The team isn't satisfied with the performance and the same have made them look for an alternate. As the summer transfer window is open in Europe we will be able to see more number of transfer talks for different players. The latest on the list is Salah who had been playing really well for Liverpool. As a counter to the rumour the Salah's agent have given response through the social media. If they had planned to leave Liverpool, they wouldn't have renewed the contract during the last summer.

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When Joja joined Al Ittihad Club there was much news from him and this transfer to Al Ittihad Club, this player 24-year-old, joined the Saudi league from Celtic. Now Al Ittihad is trying to give this player because they think he had a bad performance against AL Hilal and his bad performance was the reason for them to lose that game.
Other than this Al Ittihad is even trying to find a replacement for Joja and they sent an offer for Salah, however, they didn't accept the offer.



The team isn't satisfied with the performance and the same have made them look for an alternate. As the summer transfer window is open in Europe we will be able to see more number of transfer talks for different players. The latest on the list is Salah who had been playing really well for Liverpool. As a counter to the rumour the Salah's agent have given response through the social media. If they had planned to leave Liverpool, they wouldn't have renewed the contract during the last summer.
It sucks to see that a player that you are give a fat pay isn't meeting up with the reason why he is paid such big amount. The Saudis knows what they want from a player and that is why they are paying you big so that you can relax and play quality football to improve the quality of the club. So I wouldn't blame them if they went for Sallah,but now that Sallah agent wouldn't let go of him,I guess that they will go for an alternative. It is not every club that will be able to tolerate declination in a player performance.


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August 09, 2023, 12:03:50 AM
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When Joja joined Al Ittihad Club there was much news from him and this transfer to Al Ittihad Club, this player 24-year-old, joined the Saudi league from Celtic. Now Al Ittihad is trying to give this player because they think he had a bad performance against AL Hilal and his bad performance was the reason for them to lose that game.
Other than this Al Ittihad is even trying to find a replacement for Joja and they sent an offer for Salah, however, they didn't accept the offer.



The team isn't satisfied with the performance and the same have made them look for an alternate. As the summer transfer window is open in Europe we will be able to see more number of transfer talks for different players. The latest on the list is Salah who had been playing really well for Liverpool. As a counter to the rumour the Salah's agent have given response through the social media. If they had planned to leave Liverpool, they wouldn't have renewed the contract during the last summer.

The chance for salah to leave was pretty small but i think that what salah's agent says is not true. Does a contract renewal guarantee a player to stay in the club?

I can take it if a player has been showing its commitment by renewing its contract with the club but it doesn't mean the player can't leave from there as well.
Let's wait a response from salah directly. He has said nothing regarding arabian club's offer.

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August 09, 2023, 01:58:41 AM
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The chance for salah to leave was pretty small but i think that what salah's agent says is not true. Does a contract renewal guarantee a player to stay in the club?

I can take it if a player has been showing its commitment by renewing its contract with the club but it doesn't mean the player can't leave from there as well.
Let's wait a response from salah directly. He has said nothing regarding arabian club's offer.
Liverpool most of their important players this summer to Saudi sides, and the club is relenting on signing more players to filled in the vacant space left open. There are specific players that wouldn't triggered a move to Saudi and there are some that would much happier if they had the chance. Mohammed Salah answer to Saudi clubs would be NO. What do we expect in the first place, he would gladly say he's interested in playing for Saudi club and abandon immense years of hardwork and missed out of crucial achievements in Europe, just for?

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