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August 20, 2023, 02:03:44 PM
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You are right but there must be some other reason behind it like Mbappe he wants to make records/history first before chasing money and he has the ability to do it but in the end money is the next target, the same with Messi we remember how he left Barcelona he did not want his salary cut by more than 50% for regulations reasons and in the end moved to PSG it's one example that he still prefers money but for now he has other priorities which we don't know. Believe me for players, money will always be in 1st place or or 2nd place  Cheesy 
Money is important for players because their career does not last long and they can play like 15 or 20 seasons at maximum or if longer, just a bit several more seasons. If they can maximize money they earn from their career, it is nothing wrong. They have due diligent reasons to maximize their income and if they can combine both salary, income and chance to win titles, it's the best for their career.

The first or second priority, it is both fine for those players because they work to earn money so they can do whatever they want with their work. We should not criticize them if they prioritize salary rather chance to play at biggest leagues, tournaments and opportunities to win trophies with their clubs or personal awards.
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August 20, 2023, 03:11:04 PM
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Ittihad FC managed to win in a row in the first two matches of the Saudi Pro League, but unfortunately, the striker they bought from Real Madrid Karim Benzema has not yet contributed a goal, in fact, their old striker Abderrazak Hamdallah who last season managed to become the top scorer who remains productive by contributing two goals.
In two matches Ittihad FC managed to keep the net so well that they are the only team that has not conceded a goal, in contrast to their other competitors Al Nassr who have not won a single win and from these two matches have only been able to score one goal and conceded 4 goals, and also Al Hilal who surprisingly in the second match against Al Feiha only managed to draw even though they controlled the entire match.

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August 20, 2023, 03:24:29 PM
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That's how football goes, when players don't match what is expected then they will always criticize or even boo them, which is natural.
This is the beginning of their journey, 2 defeats are not good, but that does not mean they will not be able to rise in the next match. Especially now that the league is becoming more competitive, it will obviously be difficult to compete there.
This is the responsibility of all, do not make the defeat of a club to scapegoat one player alone. That's not good, and they must realize that.

This chanting of Messi gets even more intense when Messi scores goal after goal in the MLS while Ronaldo's club Al-Nassr loses games. It's funny because they know that this is the one thing that Ronaldo can't deny. Messi won the World Cup, Messi won the Ballon d’Or more often and Messi also won the Copa America, which is equal to the European Championship in a sense. If they now chant Messi's name it is kind of bad mannered, but I find it funny and a guy with the ego of Ronaldo should be able to cope with it.
I actually think there is another purpose that makes supporters shout Messi's name in this match. Do we remember in some matches always get the same treatment as in this match? when it happens, Ronaldo can answer the chant by creating goals and even make his club turn to win. I don't know if my observation is wrong or right, but I try to think positively about the supporters' treatment of Ronaldo and interpret it as I said above.
I do however agree that whatever the intention it was a bit disrespectful and shouldn't have been done.

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August 20, 2023, 03:29:26 PM
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You are right but there must be some other reason behind it like Mbappe he wants to make records/history first before chasing money and he has the ability to do it but in the end money is the next target, the same with Messi we remember how he left Barcelona he did not want his salary cut by more than 50% for regulations reasons and in the end moved to PSG it's one example that he still prefers money but for now he has other priorities which we don't know. Believe me for players, money will always be in 1st place or or 2nd place  Cheesy  
Money is important for players because their career does not last long and they can play like 15 or 20 seasons at maximum or if longer, just a bit several more seasons. If they can maximize money they earn from their career, it is nothing wrong. They have due diligent reasons to maximize their income and if they can combine both salary, income and chance to win titles, it's the best for their career.

The first or second priority, it is both fine for those players because they work to earn money so they can do whatever they want with their work. We should not criticize them if they prioritize salary rather chance to play at biggest leagues, tournaments and opportunities to win trophies with their clubs or personal awards.

That is understandable because I bet we would do that as well if we are on their shoes, money will always be a thing even if they will deny about it, it will be always their driving force why they are giving their best to maximize each season and won award because money and fame will always follow after that. But for the novice players who are still making a name, they don't have much option but to train harder and play harder so that soon, they can also feel the benefits of being a named player that is famous in the sports.

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August 20, 2023, 03:44:38 PM
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Money is important for players because their career does not last long and they can play like 15 or 20 seasons at maximum or if longer, just a bit several more seasons. If they can maximize money they earn from their career, it is nothing wrong. They have due diligent reasons to maximize their income and if they can combine both salary, income and chance to win titles, it's the best for their career.

The first or second priority, it is both fine for those players because they work to earn money so they can do whatever they want with their work. We should not criticize them if they prioritize salary rather chance to play at biggest leagues, tournaments and opportunities to win trophies with their clubs or personal awards.
The move made by the saudi arabia league big team in convincing players in the transfer window is the extraordinarily high salary offer to be able to convince players to accept their offer. Some of the players are indeed more interested in choosing a bigger salary in the sense that that is what they are after while they are still strong enough to play and this will provide a lot of money for their lives after retirement.

But some players like Lukaku and Mbappe have refused to join the Saudi Arabian league team because they are still prioritizing their future in the European league and maybe they still have dreams of winning the UCL trophy in their careers. So that big salaries are not able to tempt them to join team saudi arabia league.

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August 20, 2023, 03:53:21 PM
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Money is important for players because their career does not last long and they can play like 15 or 20 seasons at maximum or if longer, just a bit several more seasons. If they can maximize money they earn from their career, it is nothing wrong. They have due diligent reasons to maximize their income and if they can combine both salary, income and chance to win titles, it's the best for their career.

The first or second priority, it is both fine for those players because they work to earn money so they can do whatever they want with their work. We should not criticize them if they prioritize salary rather chance to play at biggest leagues, tournaments and opportunities to win trophies with their clubs or personal awards.
The move made by the saudi arabia league big team in convincing players in the transfer window is the extraordinarily high salary offer to be able to convince players to accept their offer. Some of the players are indeed more interested in choosing a bigger salary in the sense that that is what they are after while they are still strong enough to play and this will provide a lot of money for their lives after retirement.

But some players like Lukaku and Mbappe have refused to join the Saudi Arabian league team because they are still prioritizing their future in the European league and maybe they still have dreams of winning the UCL trophy in their careers. So that big salaries are not able to tempt them to join team saudi arabia league.
To some players, their future in football is mostly determined by the kind of financial package that comes with transfer deals from clubs who wants their services while to others, playing football in the most competitive and contested leagues in the world is their priority and that also plays a huge role when making decisions that has to do with their future in football.
Saudi Arabian League organizers knew that the only thing that can help them attract European based players who are already playing in better leagues and competitions than what can be found in the Middle East is to offer them very lucrative deals which will influence the decision of these players to join their clubs. Even with their very lucrative deals, it's not all European based footballers that'll leave Europe to play in the Saudi League.

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August 20, 2023, 04:15:07 PM
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I still regret that Saudi Arabia did not bring Messi into their team. We cannot continue to witness the rivalry between the two legends. Let's say they try to convince Messi. Then everyone will have a different view of their league, which is a big step for them. When Messi won the World Cup, Maybe money or titles were no longer essential to him.
On social networking sites, I often read exciting articles. Saudi money can buy all the former top stars. But there's only one World Cup winner that can't be purchased: Lionel Messi.
Money cannot entice every player to join the Saudi team. Kylian Mbappe rejected bids from Saudi, because there's alot he will achieved in Europe. Leo Messi turned down offers from Saudi Arabia because he felt it would be an unwise move, instead accepted offers from Inter Miami, who were struggling in their league. In accordance with Leo Messi's statistics, he had a significant impact on the club. Leo Messi is the undisputed GOAT; he put an end to the GOAT conversation when Argentina won the World Cup in 2022. Presently he's doing exceptionally brilliant in his new club and had help them lifts their first ever league trophy.
It's really about your own decisions and desires.
Mbappe realizes that he can get other luxuries especially in terms of popularity if he stays in European competition so he will not take the risk of being in an Arab clan even though the money is very large but the popularity is slightly reduced.

But on the other hand, there are not a few players who don't really care about it because of the lure of big money because their conditions may have reached the golden era or their performance will not develop rapidly in Europe so they look for greater opportunities.
Mbappe has the opportunity for popularity and extraordinary players in Europe and money in Arabia when he chooses the opportunity to become one of the players recognized by the world then his decision to reject the Arab club is very good.
I think this is not just about his popularity, but Kylian mbappe thinks about the career he has to achieve, namely being able to score a lot of goal in champions league and being able to get titles in competitions such as the champions league so that the opportunity to win title is Mbappe must stay at a european club.
Except when Mbappe has often won titles in the champions league and has achieved his dream and is heading for old age I am sure he will accept an offer from Saudi Arabia because it very natural when young players have the desire to get a lot titles after that decide to get a big salary when approaching retirement like several other star player who are already in saudi arabian club at the moment.

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August 20, 2023, 04:23:13 PM
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The move made by the saudi arabia league big team in convincing players in the transfer window is the extraordinarily high salary offer to be able to convince players to accept their offer. Some of the players are indeed more interested in choosing a bigger salary in the sense that that is what they are after while they are still strong enough to play and this will provide a lot of money for their lives after retirement.

But some players like Lukaku and Mbappe have refused to join the Saudi Arabian league team because they are still prioritizing their future in the European league and maybe they still have dreams of winning the UCL trophy in their careers. So that big salaries are not able to tempt them to join team saudi arabia league.
True, they are too young to join the SPL and still have trophy and individual targets in Europe. Such as the best players, UCL top scorers and so on, as well as their current club will try to hold back their departure in the transfer market considering their services are still very much needed. On the other hand at the club now, they also get a salary that is appropriate or quite a lot so they don't feel the need to move for now.

Maybe when their target has been reached and they are entering their old age, I think they will also follow the steps of other players to SPL if there is a tempting offer.

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August 20, 2023, 04:31:43 PM
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Ittihad FC managed to win in a row in the first two matches of the Saudi Pro League, but unfortunately, the striker they bought from Real Madrid Karim Benzema has not yet contributed a goal, in fact, their old striker Abderrazak Hamdallah who last season managed to become the top scorer who remains productive by contributing two goals.
In two matches Ittihad FC managed to keep the net so well that they are the only team that has not conceded a goal, in contrast to their other competitors Al Nassr who have not won a single win and from these two matches have only been able to score one goal and conceded 4 goals, and also Al Hilal who surprisingly in the second match against Al Feiha only managed to draw even though they controlled the entire match.

Al Ittihad remains the best so far and that way, I personally believe that Al Ittihad has a chance to be able to win the title again this season. Because after all, from other teams that have star players, the fact is that only Al Ittihad is still very consistent with good results. So yes, I personally do not hesitate to say Al Ittihad is still better than other big teams.

Even worse, Al Nassr is expected to be strong when Ronaldo comes, but until now Al Nassr is still difficult to get the results as expected. Moreover, Al Hilal has Neymar and Bono and also, Al Hilal still has great defenders and midfielders. Such as, Jang Hyun-Soo, Koulibaly, Milinkovic Savic Sergej and Neves Ruben. Thus, I will be more confident about Al Hilal than Al Nassr from time to time to be a fierce competitor in the title race with Al Ittihad.

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August 20, 2023, 04:43:47 PM
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Ittihad FC managed to win in a row in the first two matches of the Saudi Pro League, but unfortunately, the striker they bought from Real Madrid Karim Benzema has not yet contributed a goal, in fact, their old striker Abderrazak Hamdallah who last season managed to become the top scorer who remains productive by contributing two goals.
In two matches Ittihad FC managed to keep the net so well that they are the only team that has not conceded a goal, in contrast to their other competitors Al Nassr who have not won a single win and from these two matches have only been able to score one goal and conceded 4 goals, and also Al Hilal who surprisingly in the second match against Al Feiha only managed to draw even though they controlled the entire match.
That's good, at least Ittihad was able to win full points in the two matches when their competitors Al Nassr didn't get any points in the previous two matches. Although Benzema still hasn't been able to make a big contribution for Ittihad, but there is still Abderrazak Hamdallah who can make a big contribution to this team, but indeed I also hope that Benzema can score for Ittihad because he should still be able to do that as the best striker.

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August 20, 2023, 05:08:06 PM
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Ittihad FC managed to win in a row in the first two matches of the Saudi Pro League, but unfortunately, the striker they bought from Real Madrid Karim Benzema has not yet contributed a goal, in fact, their old striker Abderrazak Hamdallah who last season managed to become the top scorer who remains productive by contributing two goals.
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I quite enjoyed the Al-Ittihad match against Al-Taee but indeed Al-Ittihad had several chances but quite a few were wasted. We can see that Al-Ittihad produced 8 shots on target and they were only able to penetrate through two goals. Karim Benzema actually also had a chance but failed to convert it into a goal and thanks to two goals from senior players at Al-Ittihad they were able to score full points at home. I think Karim Benzema sometimes just needs the right flow of the ball from the other players because he is known for his very sharp finishing even for a 35 year old player.

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August 20, 2023, 05:25:51 PM
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To some players, their future in football is mostly determined by the kind of financial package that comes with transfer deals from clubs who wants their services while to others, playing football in the most competitive and contested leagues in the world is their priority and that also plays a huge role when making decisions that has to do with their future in football.
Saudi Arabian League organizers knew that the only thing that can help them attract European based players who are already playing in better leagues and competitions than what can be found in the Middle East is to offer them very lucrative deals which will influence the decision of these players to join their clubs. Even with their very lucrative deals, it's not all European based footballers that'll leave Europe to play in the Saudi League.
Some of the players who have been associated with the Saudi Arabian league team are indeed players who have big names in European league competitions. All the decisions made by them are none other than because they are still pursuing priorities to build their careers with more competitive competitions such as the Champions League.

For example, currently some of the players who chose to reject offers from the Saudi Arabian league team did indeed get quite special treatment from their team, as received by Mbappe from PSG.

But even more so this week we have seen new players who will decorate the depth of Al Nassr squad because Al Nassr managed to get Otavio and before that we also saw Al Hilal succeed in recruiting Neymar. So far, several players who have successfully joined the Saudi Arabian league team have always been in public discussion because of their status as players who have big names in Europe.

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Money is important for players because their career does not last long and they can play like 15 or 20 seasons at maximum or if longer, just a bit several more seasons. If they can maximize money they earn from their career, it is nothing wrong. They have due diligent reasons to maximize their income and if they can combine both salary, income and chance to win titles, it's the best for their career.

The first or second priority, it is both fine for those players because they work to earn money so they can do whatever they want with their work. We should not criticize them if they prioritize salary rather chance to play at biggest leagues, tournaments and opportunities to win trophies with their clubs or personal awards.
The move made by the saudi arabia league big team in convincing players in the transfer window is the extraordinarily high salary offer to be able to convince players to accept their offer. Some of the players are indeed more interested in choosing a bigger salary in the sense that that is what they are after while they are still strong enough to play and this will provide a lot of money for their lives after retirement.

But some players like Lukaku and Mbappe have refused to join the Saudi Arabian league team because they are still prioritizing their future in the European league and maybe they still have dreams of winning the UCL trophy in their careers. So that big salaries are not able to tempt them to join team saudi arabia league.
The fact is that most players will move to the SPL if they get a good offer. Clubs will get large funds from the sale of their assets, and of course with these funds they will be able to use them to cover expenses in recruiting new players. Like Neymar who moved to the SPL and joined Al Hilal, Neymar and PSG are both in an advantageous position.

Indeed, in some cases, clubs from the SPL will find it difficult to recruit young players from Europe due to conditional factors. For example the individual target to become the best player has not been achieved, they temporarily set aside the offer from the SPL.

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I quite enjoyed the Al-Ittihad match against Al-Taee but indeed Al-Ittihad had several chances but quite a few were wasted. We can see that Al-Ittihad produced 8 shots on target and they were only able to penetrate through two goals. Karim Benzema actually also had a chance but failed to convert it into a goal and thanks to two goals from senior players at Al-Ittihad they were able to score full points at home. I think Karim Benzema sometimes just needs the right flow of the ball from the other players because he is known for his very sharp finishing even for a 35 year old player.
I see Al Ittihad starting this season with more impressive results when compared to Al Nassr. In this match, Al ittihad managed to win which led Benzema and friends to maintain victory in their last two matches. Apart from that, benzema, who is still having trouble scoring goals, is a big question mark because he was so active in scoring goals when he was still with real madrid. Whether he will start this season with difficulty scoring goals with Al ittihad.

So, if we look at Al Nassr progress, we can see that they have experienced a significant setback in their performance because the two matches they have played have ended in defeat. However, if you look at the statistics of their game, of course they are playing quite well, but they have had difficulties scoring goals in the last two matches which made them waste so many golden opportunities to score goals.

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I still regret that Saudi Arabia did not bring Messi into their team. We cannot continue to witness the rivalry between the two legends. Let's say they try to convince Messi. Then everyone will have a different view of their league, which is a big step for them. When Messi won the World Cup, Maybe money or titles were no longer essential to him.
On social networking sites, I often read exciting articles. Saudi money can buy all the former top stars. But there's only one World Cup winner that can't be purchased: Lionel Messi.
Money cannot entice every player to join the Saudi team. Kylian Mbappe rejected bids from Saudi, because there's alot he will achieved in Europe. Leo Messi turned down offers from Saudi Arabia because he felt it would be an unwise move, instead accepted offers from Inter Miami, who were struggling in their league. In accordance with Leo Messi's statistics, he had a significant impact on the club. Leo Messi is the undisputed GOAT; he put an end to the GOAT conversation when Argentina won the World Cup in 2022. Presently he's doing exceptionally brilliant in his new club and had help them lifts their first ever league trophy.
I do not think that it's about money but more about personality and cultural difference. I understand that there are some Saudi people who could argue that the life style in Saudi Arabia is just as good and you can do anything there and have fun and all that.

But, a lot of players "think" (or know) that they can't do exactly what they do in Europe or USA which they can't do there, I mean it's just not acceptable according to the culture and they just do not want that risk. Sure maybe it's allowed, but allowed and frowned upon are different. It's a lot easier for them to go to a culture that is closer to theirs and this is why while there are a lot of great footballers who agree to go go here, there are some who just feel not so great about it and reject.

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August 20, 2023, 07:39:46 PM
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I quite enjoyed the Al-Ittihad match against Al-Taee but indeed Al-Ittihad had several chances but quite a few were wasted. We can see that Al-Ittihad produced 8 shots on target and they were only able to penetrate through two goals. Karim Benzema actually also had a chance but failed to convert it into a goal and thanks to two goals from senior players at Al-Ittihad they were able to score full points at home. I think Karim Benzema sometimes just needs the right flow of the ball from the other players because he is known for his very sharp finishing even for a 35 year old player.
I see Al Ittihad starting this season with more impressive results when compared to Al Nassr. In this match, Al ittihad managed to win which led Benzema and friends to maintain victory in their last two matches. Apart from that, benzema, who is still having trouble scoring goals, is a big question mark because he was so active in scoring goals when he was still with real madrid. Whether he will start this season with difficulty scoring goals with Al ittihad.

So, if we look at Al Nassr progress, we can see that they have experienced a significant setback in their performance because the two matches they have played have ended in defeat. However, if you look at the statistics of their game, of course they are playing quite well, but they have had difficulties scoring goals in the last two matches which made them waste so many golden opportunities to score goals.

The performance from Al Ittihad was better in this match and they were definitely deserving winners of this match. I did not give any chance to their opponent at the start of the match. But when I saw that the deadlock was still not broken in the first half, I thought if there is a chance that this match might actually end in a draw. But obviously, that did not happen.

Al Nassr has definitely started pretty bad in this season. The only reason why they are not in the relegation zone is because they have a better goal difference. They have scored only once in two matches. So they will have to improve their performance pretty quickly. I also think that they are relying too much on Cristiano Ronaldo. They should understand that even though he definitely was the best player in the world, he is old and his knees cannot take this anymore.

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August 20, 2023, 08:22:23 PM
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It's really about your own decisions and desires.
Mbappe realizes that he can get other luxuries especially in terms of popularity if he stays in European competition so he will not take the risk of being in an Arab clan even though the money is very large but the popularity is slightly reduced.
Mbappe believes he still has a career to build, and he can do that only in the European league. He believes if he can go to the Saudi League, then that might be the end of his career because the league is less competitive and the league those not have much attention, which is going to affect him. That’s why he rejected the Saudi League offer. Actually, they made Mbappe a juicy offer, which I am sure will keep the player in a difficult position before he can be able to decide. Only a few players will reject that kind of offer, but Mbappe stood so strong and rejected it.

Mbappe has the opportunity for popularity and extraordinary players in Europe and money in Arabia when he chooses the opportunity to become one of the players recognized by the world then his decision to reject the Arab club is very good.
Since the Saudi League wants Mbappe and he rejected their offer currently, they can try harder some other time, and maybe Mbappe might consider their offer, but I'm sure it won’t be now. Maybe when he is getting old and he has already achieved things that he really wants to achieve, he might consider moving there to make his money.

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August 20, 2023, 08:35:12 PM
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So, if we look at Al Nassr progress, we can see that they have experienced a significant setback in their performance because the two matches they have played have ended in defeat. However, if you look at the statistics of their game, of course they are playing quite well, but they have had difficulties scoring goals in the last two matches which made them waste so many golden opportunities to score goals.
Al-Nassr results aren't good at all comparing to the players they have and the investment done. In this match Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane and Brozovic were all present, yet they lost with 2-0!
Al-Hilal result isn't any better with a draw vs Al Feiha. Waiting to see his recent recruited players playing so we might a different outcomes.
Al-Ahli did good for the second round and Mehrez scored a goal. They are now in the second place in the ranking just under Al-Ittihad

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Al-Nassr results aren't good at all comparing to the players they have and the investment done. In this match Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane and Brozovic were all present, yet they lost with 2-0!
Al-Hilal result isn't any better with a draw vs Al Feiha. Waiting to see his recent recruited players playing so we might a different outcomes.
Al-Ahli did good for the second round and Mehrez scored a goal. They are now in the second place in the ranking just under Al-Ittihad
Spent much money for signing many star players this transfer window but Al Nassr have bad result last two games in Saudi Pro League matches, looks they have forget how to win after success winning Arab Club Champions Cup and bad started with two matched in domestic league. Karim Benzema teams Al Ittihad still in the top performance last two domestic league matches, winning two games and lead awhile top standings position. Al Ahli have quit well perform last two matches, just Al Nassr still get bad result and Cristiano Ronaldo have working hard how to get back confidence for winning next match against Al Fateh but they have faced Shabab Al Ahli firstly on AFC Champion League play-off round.

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August 20, 2023, 10:26:51 PM
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Ittihad FC managed to win in a row in the first two matches of the Saudi Pro League, but unfortunately, the striker they bought from Real Madrid Karim Benzema has not yet contributed a goal,

Yeah this is a question for all of us, what exactly happened, was it just unlucky? as we know before the Saudi Pro League match officially started Benzema is always active in scoring goals even in almost every match, based on my records at least Benzema has scored 3 goals and one of the goals through a penalty meaning adaptation is not a problem anymore so what's the problem? why the performance decreased when the competition had already started it should be at a moment like this his contribution is needed, fortunately there are still local strikers who can be relied upon so that Al Ittihad can still secure all the points and take over the standings.

Al-Nassr results aren't good at all comparing to the players they have and the investment done. In this match Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane and Brozovic were all present, yet they lost with 2-0!
Al-Hilal result isn't any better with a draw vs Al Feiha. Waiting to see his recent recruited players playing so we might a different outcomes.
Al-Ahli did good for the second round and Mehrez scored a goal. They are now in the second place in the ranking just under Al-Ittihad

Yeah the performance of the two teams seems unstable, bad results in the last 2 matches indicate that the team hasn't returned to their best game, maybe too tired after the previous finals? indeed the league has just started we cannot use the last 2 matches as a benchmark at least we have to wait for a few more matches. In the next match Al Nassr will fight Al Fateh this team had been defeated before last June so Al Nassr has no more reason to lose more points, if they keep missing this point then AL Nassr doesn't count towards the title race.

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