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January 12, 2023, 05:55:23 AM |
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Any sports wouldn't allow their players to bet their own game, but of course a small or local league is really easy to abuse it since the players aren't really professional and focus on money rather than their career, accepting few losses are okay for them. This is why I don't want to bet on local league because the security and audit aren't really high as the international league. There's many upset happen on small league which I think it's a fixed game.
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January 12, 2023, 05:57:38 AM |
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Answering the title: If the question is only in the context of sports then it shouldn't be, sports matches make it possible to create winning scenarios. But in practice their bets can be represented by other people and it is common knowledge. Anyway, I just remembered about this match about the blatant winning scenario, lol.
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traderethereum
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January 12, 2023, 09:05:18 AM |
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Well first i didn’t think this topic will get much attention here, thank you for your replies and answers. But to be specific i wanted like more of the games or matches where those player been caught and what was their punishment and who really found out about their bet So, in general, athletes are not allowed to bet on themselves. There are a few exceptions to these rules, especially when athletes find grey areas in the legislation and regulation processes. This is only valid for individual matches and sports, like boxing, MMA, or tennis As for this exception i think it’s with the fighters where they bet against each other for big amounts of money and the winner takes it all it’s more known in boxing matches, but they can’t for bet on their loss because certainly it will be weird if both fighters do their best to lose the fight haha… You can search through search engines to find more results If the player cannot bet for himself, he can ask his friend to place a bet on him so that he does not have to do anything that violates the rules. So, there must be a player who told his friends to bet for that player so they could get more money. And it wouldn't get him caught by the organizers or the authorities because there would be no evidence that he was betting on himself.
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klidex
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January 12, 2023, 09:16:18 AM |
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Any sports wouldn't allow their players to bet their own game, but of course a small or local league is really easy to abuse it since the players aren't really professional and focus on money rather than their career, accepting few losses are okay for them. This is why I don't want to bet on local league because the security and audit aren't really high as the international league. There's many upset happen on small league which I think it's a fixed game.
I think your statement is still not quite right because we don't know how the reality actually happened. They may bet on their own games without the knowledge of other people or their team management. If you say betting on your own game is only done on local leagues, that's still not quite right either. Many national or even international leagues bet their own games in the early rounds and we don't know what their goal is. However, even though it is an international league, if you are faced with more money then no one will be able to refuse it because they play in an international league and are also paid and expect to win for a prize in money. So anyone can change their mindset if there is a large nominal amount.
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January 12, 2023, 03:10:42 PM |
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They can make a bet through many ways such as paying someone to do it for them or betting with oneself if they are not allowed to do so. But in sports, not all people are into money alone given that in big tournaments they are being paid enough also, they'd be t risk of being sued if they'd be proven to sell their matches. Some players are just there for passion therefore they won't waste time betting on the opponent and win money. But there are times wherein players are forced to do so but it is less often caused of their own likeness. But again, if they would really like to, they would be able to do so. This is simply the bottomline.
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January 12, 2023, 03:23:11 PM |
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Yes,they can bet on their game but it will be on a low key because they know it is against the law as a professional because if a gambler finds himself in a sport he can gamble even some weeks before the day of that event,to make it not to be loud.
It happens very well in my place but I will not call it a professional match,it is always interesting. The players will contribute money to buy a form for them to participate in a competition where there will be prize for the first,second and third teams. The prize use to be money and if the team don't have a sponsor players contribute to participate in the competition.
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January 12, 2023, 03:30:33 PM |
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Depends on the jurisdiction. Like some people have mentioned, in some countries players can't bet at all, in others they can bet on themselves, but not against. I'm sure this is often circumvented as if I were a player forbidden to bet on myself, I'd give some money to my friends and have my them bet on me. Most bans and limits are ridiculous and I wouldn't support any of them. It's up to every person what they decide to do with their money. If they cheat and lose on purpose this should be noted by referees, not by some banker who watches your account to see if you gamble or not.
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Awaklara
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January 12, 2023, 03:41:12 PM |
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So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
to see for myself, I've never known anyone to do it. but when viewed from the possibility, of course it will likely happen. even on a podcast, I once witnessed a former slot admin who was fired from a casino for divulging winning secrets. don't know the truth, but that sort of thing might happen to all gambling games.
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January 12, 2023, 03:57:50 PM |
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So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
This usually happens in minor leagues. In football, practices that lead to match fixing are still often carried out by unscrupulous players, coaches, clubs or parties who have an interest. in Asia, especially ASEAN. practices like this still exist and continue to exist who knows how long. one of the factors that makes ASEAN football not better in the world of football is practices like this. Not only involving the players, there are many parties involved. even though professional athletes or players are strictly prohibited from betting, especially on their own team. but because of the weak system, the lax regulations, scandals like this will continue until something changes. so what do you say and question in your thread, this kind of practice still exists. for players who are caught red-handed are usually rare, but big scandals in football have happened and I remember the scandal involving Juventus in 2006.
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January 12, 2023, 04:09:33 PM |
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In my country, it is pretty common for small-time event organizers to fix games ranging from volleyball to basketball. They'd bet under the table to make sure no one catches wind of it and then let the whole thing play out. Fixing games are happening all the time in regular games that aren't as massive as national level, mainly because of the lack of proper security and integrity. Then again measures are taken and are actively being employed to ensure that these doesn't happen that much. But it just can't be helped, these people will always find ways to fix games and manipulate the odds according to or against their will to earn a quick buck. That's the way of things in amateur sports level.
This has been happening in our country and it even occurs in huge sports events. There was once an obviously manipulated game where the viewers as well as the bettors complained. Even the fans of the players weren't convinced with the result because it seems like there was an under-the-table occurrence. That's one of the reasons why people in our country prefer betting on international sports over our local games. They are starting to lose their trust in the players as well as the organizers.
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January 12, 2023, 05:51:54 PM |
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So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
to see for myself, I've never known anyone to do it. but when viewed from the possibility, of course it will likely happen. even on a podcast, I once witnessed a former slot admin who was fired from a casino for divulging winning secrets. don't know the truth, but that sort of thing might happen to all gambling games. Same with your opinion, it can happen as there are always possibilities if we are dealing with money. Those fighters or players can easily ask help from their friends or relatives to create a gambling account where they can do the manipulation, but in terms of big league controversial news like that will simply be covered by the organization. As it can ruin the name of the league/sport, covering the possibilities will be the first in line to protect the industry.
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January 12, 2023, 06:35:28 PM |
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So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
to see for myself, I've never known anyone to do it. but when viewed from the possibility, of course it will likely happen. even on a podcast, I once witnessed a former slot admin who was fired from a casino for divulging winning secrets. don't know the truth, but that sort of thing might happen to all gambling games. Same with your opinion, it can happen as there are always possibilities if we are dealing with money. Those fighters or players can easily ask help from their friends or relatives to create a gambling account where they can do the manipulation, but in terms of big league controversial news like that will simply be covered by the organization. As it can ruin the name of the league/sport, covering the possibilities will be the first in line to protect the industry. Betting on their own game is against their word of conduct so they will definitely won't do it using their names to protect their reputation. Yes, they can easily ask someone to do it for them secretly. Maybe some of them are not doing it to manipulate the game but to challenge themselves to win. I'm sure that even famous sports players do it.
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January 12, 2023, 06:36:29 PM |
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As far as I know athletes or professional players are not allowed to bet on themselves[1]. But as the reference stated, it is somehow in a grey area where some players are able to bet on themselves. According to the regulation, although players are banned on betting on the sports they are involve with, they can bet on other sports that they don't have any affiliation.
Yes and it's also stated in the OP that players can't bet on their own but I think this one can easily be bypassed. Especially if the betting is done only online. We have crypto casinos now which doesn't ask for a KYC. They can also use a VPN and other tools to hide their information more evenly. They can also pay people to place bets for them. Players knows their ability and they can also estimate the ability of their opponents so even if let say no fixing will happen, they still can be tempted to bet. If I am of the players. I think I will just focus on my career and I don't want to do things which will affect it. Besides, I still can earn and I can earn better once I get popular someday.
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January 12, 2023, 07:04:14 PM |
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This is possible in small leagues where players don't earn too much money, so they can bet on a certain event and make it happen, but for tier 1 leagues, I doubt a player could risk his name and career in order to earn some thousands of Dollars unless he is offered big deal with big sportsbook platform, for example to get a red or yellow card, I noted a lot of cases where players insist to get a yellow card, they were clear enough to think that these players were offered something.
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January 12, 2023, 07:50:42 PM |
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Yes and it's also stated in the OP that players can't bet on their own but I think this one can easily be bypassed. Especially if the betting is done only online. We have crypto casinos now which doesn't ask for a KYC. They can also use a VPN and other tools to hide their information more evenly. They can also pay people to place bets for them. Players knows their ability and they can also estimate the ability of their opponents so even if let say no fixing will happen, they still can be tempted to bet.
If I am of the players. I think I will just focus on my career and I don't want to do things which will affect it. Besides, I still can earn and I can earn better once I get popular someday.
Even though they can do various ways to bet without involving their identity, professional athletes will not do that because they are focused on future careers, if betting is to win/lose then it will be tied to the betting choices that have been made, of course losing choices are things certainty but no athlete is willing to lose just to earn a living from betting but have to sacrifice their sports career.
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January 12, 2023, 08:15:32 PM |
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I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting. But surely in small or unknown leagues there must be some people doing it. For example a goalkeeper of small devision league in Africa where some bookmakers cover betting on the match can create an account on it, if they ask for KYC verification can easily ask his friend or family member to do it for him. And can earn much money by letting his team lose. Fighters can manipulate that even more. So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?
Yes, I have heard of but a few athletes who were caught betting on their games and due punishment given each according, starting from the famous NFL superstar "Calvin Ridley" who was found to have wagered on the NFL game he played and suspended for the entire 2022 season. (17-game suspension) Second. "Tim Donaghy", an NBA referee who was caught to have bet on the very game he was officiating and was later banned from officiating NBA games. Third, "Paul Hornung" who was an NFL star back in the 1950s and 60s, who was caught to have bet on NFL game he played and was issued a 16-game suspension. Forth, "Alex Karras" a former Detroit Lions star who was also caught on the very act, and was also handed a 16-game suspension. Fifth: "Pete Rose" a former baseball player who was serve a lifetime ban from baseball after it was discovered he had bet on games while serving as manager of the Cincinnati Reds. Source:: https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/calvin-ridley-and-4-other-athletes-who-were-caught-betting-on-their-own-sport%3famp=1
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January 12, 2023, 08:24:17 PM |
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Here's a curated list of match fixing that happen in sports https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents, this may not cover all but some of it are the notable match fixing incidents that happen in the past. It's always possible and it might be happening even these days and with the advent of crypto gambling wherein you can make an anonymous account, it may be hard for authorities to check on them.
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January 12, 2023, 08:40:17 PM |
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As soon as a player plays with a bookmaker who has a KYC and knows which player this is, it will certainly be noticed. I'm also pretty sure it's stated in the terms and conditions that players are not allowed to bet on their own matches. In fact, I think it's not even allowed to bet on a relevant match. So not even on your own match, but on a match of another team in the same competition is not allowed. If you only gamble with crypto and a gambling site isn't going to do any verification, you could get away with it. The only question that remains is whether you want to deliberately lose a match yourself.
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January 12, 2023, 08:49:39 PM |
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Each and every sports have got a ruling authority. According to the rules framed by these authorities it is against the rule to bet on their own games. Recently in an incident popular player was found spending on betting and he has been suspended from the team. It was really pity that what he might've won is very small compared to the amount he lost due to the suspension that lasts at least for a year.
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January 12, 2023, 09:58:26 PM |
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this kind of thing often happens in my city when a soccer player bets on his own game and it has been happening for decades. and several times also often caught by gamblers when making transactions between the dealer and the players they are discussing mutual benefits. some gamblers don't accept that it's a manipulation scam but gamblers can't do anything because they have a lot of money from those profits to cover up their mistakes or cheating. oddly enough, even though there is often such manipulation in my city, gamblers are still willing to bet on the game when it is obvious that players are betting on their own game.
(I tell land gambling)
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