Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings?

[Cryptomultiplier]

Casinos have grade or better put, class. If one is to gamble using a casino online or offline, he/she should be able to tell how big they are, the authenticity, verification of users and how they resolve issues as regards to payment after winnings among this and other important factors.
The case of the lady should have been one in which the casino in question has less than it has made the public to believe. I have also heard a report sometime back about how a gambling site, not casino however, couldn't afford to pay the huge winning a bettor won and the way they could resolve it was pay in installments. Although, this was a live betting center, the solution of installments payment upon winning is more better than nothing at all.
Redeeming agencies totally independent of any casino or gambler/bettors influence should be the best resolution, if preventing this current trend of non payment of huge winning by casinos should cease.

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[QueenVera]

This topic and accusations have been frequent over here on the forum and in the gambling lately (over 5 years if I'm not wrong) and I think one of the major reasons why this casinos are getting away after ripping players of their jackpots is the fact that the player might not have enough funds to follow up this cases in a law court and from reading your topic, and the link posted by OP, it seems that the incidence didn't really occur this year and the case was later filed in the court now which implies two things,
* Either there was someone who gave her that idea now and the auloort she needed and the other
* Is the possibility that she wasn't having the money to file for this case as at when it came up and she did it now because it seems now is the right time to do so.
Money reviews the real character of a man.

[Issa56]

Before calling them a scam, it would be better to know the real story first. In the link that the OP shared, it was actually the woman's fault on why it end up like that. She already been told that the machine is malfunctioning and yet she still continued to play. Other than that, I think there is also a warning/sign around the machine, saying that it is malfunctioning.

I think you should read the post again, when she was playing, she wasn't informed that the machine was faulty, they told her that the machine was faulty after winning and she was discussing about the amount she won before she was told that she Wan just $2.25. How is she at fault? If they informed her before she start playing, then am sure everyone will blame her, but they informed her that the machine is faulty after the win.

I am not sure if the girl didn't notice that or she just insist to play for fun. What happened about her winning millions, isn't unexpected but she thinks she is lucky and she is going to claim it but offered by a dinner instead. The owner is still kind and she must be thankful about it.

What do you mean by the owner is kind? If you gamble and you win, but the casino decided not to pay you your win, and they are offering you a dinner, it means that the casino owner is kind? Do you think they will invite her for dinner if they informed her that the casino was faulty and she keeps on playing?

[capedbaldy]

Before calling them a scam, it would be better to know the real story first. In the link that the OP shared, it was actually the woman's fault on why it end up like that. She already been told that the machine is malfunctioning and yet she still continued to play. Other than that, I think there is also a warning/sign around the machine, saying that it is malfunctioning.

I am not sure if the girl didn't notice that or she just insist to play for fun. What happened about her winning millions, isn't unexpected but she thinks she is lucky and she is going to claim it but offered by a dinner instead. The owner is still kind and she must be thankful about it.

That's a different story that I've read in the thread of the previous post, there is no source saying that the machine was broken before the woman used it, if the machine is broken then the gambling machine must not be used or at least put up writing information that the gambling machine is broken, but the machine was broken it was said after someone won a jackpot of $43 million. So how would you respond if you were in that woman's position, would you accept the offer of a free steak dinner for the jackpot prize?

[len01]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

maybe I missed the new thread and the news that was written but it was very sad when the lady's lucky day turned into a bad day because she was tricked by a land casino.
that is a really big amount and if the machine is damaged, there must be a written prohibition not to use the slot machine. the reason I'm against this is because every casino should always check their machines on a regular basis to determine if all Slot machines are not damaged or fit for use. but the statement came out after the woman won $35.4 million.
the casino should make an offer to the woman if unable to pay all the amount won, such as offering $ 1 million or $ 2 million it is already a large number and treats the pain of being cheated.
but in reality the casino will always win, sometimes paying someone to defend and cover up the casino's mistakes.

[TimeTeller]

Before calling them a scam, it would be better to know the real story first. In the link that the OP shared, it was actually the woman's fault on why it end up like that. She already been told that the machine is malfunctioning and yet she still continued to play. Other than that, I think there is also a warning/sign around the machine, saying that it is malfunctioning.

I am not sure if the girl didn't notice that or she just insist to play for fun. What happened about her winning millions, isn't unexpected but she thinks she is lucky and she is going to claim it but offered by a dinner instead. The owner is still kind and she must be thankful about it.

That's a different story that I've read in the thread of the previous post, there is no source saying that the machine was broken before the woman used it, if the machine is broken then the gambling machine must not be used or at least put up writing information that the gambling machine is broken, but the machine was broken it was said after someone won a jackpot of $43 million. So how would you respond if you were in that woman's position, would you accept the offer of a free steak dinner for the jackpot prize?

Don't read also from the story that there was a warning sign of malfunction. It was only a day after that they informed the woman that it was.
Because if there was a warning sign before hand, they can easily tell right away to the woman that the machine was faulty.
But it took them a day before they informed her about the status of machine, hence, just giving few bucks for her winnings.
We don't know the truth about the validation of the authority, if they got paid for the confirmation that the machine was faulty.
If the woman believes that she has very good battle and she has money for lawsuit, she can pursue suing the casino.
But if not, just accept what the casino offered. Just be cautious next time when playing inside the casino.

[goldkingcoiner]

I am starting to think that casinos mostly are not able to pay such winnings so they sometimes stall for time, or offer something else in return for relinquishing your winnings and your rights to sue the owners of said casino as well (most people tend not to think about that. Once you say yes to their offer, the winnings are lost forever).

People need to stand up and stay tough. No compromises. The best advice anyone can give you is to consult a lawyer who can at least give you a chance to get a much bigger reward, in the end. A lot of people are scared of lawyers and their fees. If you live in a first world country then you can afford lawyer fees or they will be provided to you as a social loan. Interest-free, of course.

In the end, you will get your winnings. (unless you broke casino rules. Like cheating)

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

There is actually alot going in with the gambling industry and from my readings if I'm not wrong, it seems this incidence of the winnings took place over a year ago  

No. This incident actually took place more than 4 years ago, because their is a YouTube video of over 4yrs old having the record of this very woman. And just as someone earlier said, I guess that amount was too big, and the only way that casino to avoid paying such amount was to come up with a big lie claiming the slot machine had a malfunctioned, which they still yet allowed gamblers using it.

It was stated that the machine malfunctioned

I totally disagree with you on this statement, because take a look at the image below. It wasn't stated that the machine malfunctioned. But rather what was written there was that if the machine was malfunction, then it will void all play and pay, as stated below..

 "Must be 18yrs older to play"
 "Malfunction voids all pay and play"

But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards

[chaser15]

It's possible that they don't have the money ready and that's why they resort to just reason out that some bugs or glitches has occurred during the spin.

Or they don't just want to pay and doesn't feel that the winner deserves it. You know the management of some casinos are like that, even if the winner is a rightful and genuine winner, they can have that emotion and just have to say some reasons and refuse to pay.

That was a crappy reason to start with.

If you weren't able to read the article, the highest gambling commission also did the investigation and they confirmed that the machine is really faulty.

The mistake of that casino is, they didn't do their due diligence to remove that machine that's why it ended up faulty. The machine has a sort of bug display that's why when the winning ticket is released, the stated amount was only around $2. They should at least face some penalty but the article didn't mention it.

If that casino really intends to do some cheating, didn't they realize that by offering dinner to the women will just make the situation worse? If the casino is guilty, they will just offer a big money to the women to remain silent, but they didn't.

[Sandra_hakeem]

This same shit doesn't help anyways....
Cus they feel a woman doesn't know the value of an asset?? They feel every woman isn't worth getting in participation with the rules and etiquettes of whatsoever, successfully.
Gambling isn't gender biased; AFAIK, we haven't had any rules supporting that on a contrary , do we?? It seems that anyone could Just get on 'em and pull a few stunt, just to deprive 'em of their right -- remember that she's wagered with her hard-earned cash -- nobody cared about the fact that she was a woman when she came for the bookings -- JUSTICE SHOULD BE TAKEN
This sometimes makes me develop some kinda inferiority complex.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[nullama]

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 "Must be 18yrs older to play"
 "Malfunction voids all pay and play"

But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards

Exactly.

How is malfunction proven?, can casinos basically say that any big jackpot is malfunction and get away with it?

This is madness really. If this is the case, then there's no point in gambling.

[abel1337]

This same shit doesn't help anyways....
Cus they feel a woman doesn't know the value of an asset?? They feel every woman isn't worth getting in participation with the rules and etiquettes of whatsoever, successfully.
Gambling isn't gender biased; AFAIK, we haven't had any rules supporting that on a contrary , do we?? It seems that anyone could Just get on 'em and pull a few stunt, just to deprive 'em of their right -- remember that she's wagered with her hard-earned cash -- nobody cared about the fact that she was a woman when she came for the bookings -- JUSTICE SHOULD BE TAKEN
This sometimes makes me develop some kinda inferiority complex.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I believe that the refusal of the casino doesn't have any connection on the gender of the winner. If the winner is a man will the casino refuse to pay the millions that is a potential loss for them given that they have a machine that made an error that make them pay millions. We all believe gender isn't an issue on gambling industry and we can see on how different genders dominate gambling games over years. It's just it is more common to see a man playing on a casino than women or other gender in a casino. Man usually likes to chase the thrill and adrenaline rush we want and some of us finds it on playing on a casino.

[Zlantann]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

I have heard several accusations by gamblers that some casino firms refused to pay them after winning thier games. Sometimes when you investigate the matter, it might turn out that these gamblers violated some of the terms of service because they have refused to study or read them. I think it is important to study the TOS of every casino company before using them because some of them have some polices that are unreasonable and unjust.

Most casinos that deny gambles thier wins lack integrity. They don't care about thier goodwill because such occurrence would definitely tarnish thier image. Another reason might be that most of these casinos are badly managed.  They might not have the funds to pay for such wins because the business is not well managed. I would always advice that gamblers should do a reliability check on casinos and only use renowned and reliable ones. Gambling firms in this forum have proved to be dependable for a longtime, so betting with them would be one of the best options.

[harizen]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

They aren't getting away that easily. They have won the law that's why they end up winning the case.

Maybe on other stories, there are shitty ones with shitty excuses but on that story you mentioned, the case has been solved in a legal way.

In the meantime, you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope that you won't end up in that particular situation.

[stomachgrowls]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

They aren't getting away that easily. They have won the law that's why they end up winning the case.

Maybe on other stories, there are shitty ones with shitty excuses but on that story you mentioned, the case has been solved in a legal way.

In the meantime, you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope that you won't end up in that particular situation.

How nice if you would really be that someone do able to hit up some lottery jackpot but its not good to make yourself get involved on not on being paid which we know that it is really that an unfortunate condition.

Its true that the ones who could really be able to have the advantage are to those ones who do have the money or capability on turning the tables and since you are just an individual whose trying out to
take some fight with a huge company then chances might be slim but if evidences are clear and precise then it would be an another story.
Its just dumb for a company to make excuses even if the proofs are solid enough.

[Fundamentals Of]

Is this really a trend? Could you provide us all the links to other similar news to say that this is becoming a troubling trend?

No, it's not a trend. Just because there have been some cases does not mean that it is. Surely the OP has also seen some cases on Scam Accusations, but not all of them by far are the result of casino wrongdoing. It's not uncommon to find out in one of those accusations, that the accuser was actually a cheater who got caught.

Yes, I know this isn't a thread. But I honestly find it troubling even if the one accusing the casino is a cheater when the cheating was only raised by the casino when the cheater won the jackpot. In this case, it is like both are cheaters and the casino is the better cheater.

I think there have already been cases when big jackpots are not paid by the casinos because the player was violating something in their ToS. But all those times when the player was spending big money and losing, his attention wasn't called.

It seems many casinos are getting into fault finding when somebody is already winning big.

[Sithara007]

We do not have all the information, but we have to understand that gambling occur on digital platforms and that glitches might happen.

Let's take an example : You play a Slot with a Maximum payout of 30 000x and a maximum bet amount of $10.... so the maximum payout should be $300 000 ....but when you win with a glitch, it says $40 000 000 .....so in this case, the casino has a valid reason not to honor the payout, because it is way more than the maximum payout that this Slot can pay.

So some casinos are just looking for a reason not to pay.... and that is sad. (Mostly using the KYC or ToS to their advantage)  

KYC is being used nowadays as an excuse not to pass on the winnings, but this excuse will not stand in court. But I agree with you on the machine malfunction part. It is impossible to win $40 million with a slot machine, as the maximum winning would be much smaller. But then, the casino handled this issue in a very unprofessional manner. They should have immediately informed the player rather than making her wait for an entire day after giving an impression that she won a very big reward. Also, they refused to settle it out of court.

[rodskee]

We do not have all the information, but we have to understand that gambling occur on digital platforms and that glitches might happen.

Let's take an example : You play a Slot with a Maximum payout of 30 000x and a maximum bet amount of $10.... so the maximum payout should be $300 000 ....but when you win with a glitch, it says $40 000 000 .....so in this case, the casino has a valid reason not to honor the payout, because it is way more than the maximum payout that this Slot can pay.

So some casinos are just looking for a reason not to pay.... and that is sad. (Mostly using the KYC or ToS to their advantage)  

KYC is being used nowadays as an excuse not to pass on the winnings, but this excuse will not stand in court. But I agree with you on the machine malfunction part. It is impossible to win $40 million with a slot machine, as the maximum winning would be much smaller. But then, the casino handled this issue in a very unprofessional manner. They should have immediately informed the player rather than making her wait for an entire day after giving an impression that she won a very big reward. Also, they refused to settle it out of court.

seemingly that everyone here believes that it is malfunction ? (not counting those who does not truly understand Slot machine and still buy the Idea that this is a scam from casino) if this is at least 6 figures win? yeah I will trust this to happen but giving that it is about 40 million more? then I don't take this to be a legit win.

~snip~

 "Must be 18yrs older to play"
 "Malfunction voids all pay and play"

But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards

Exactly.

How is malfunction proven?, can casinos basically say that any big jackpot is malfunction and get away with it?

This is madness really. If this is the case, then there's no point in gambling.

that is something to be answered perfectly , because why let that machine sit there knowing that it has an issue? or maybe they don't know that it has trouble till the bet happens.

[Strongkored]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

The comparison with players who can withdrawal money from big winnings is much bigger so the worry is unfounded and this case occurs at landbase casinos which are much more regulated than online casinos so if you don't want to experience this, ignore the casinos that have been involved, especially if can't solve the case properly and only choose trusted casinos

[traderethereum]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

The comparison with players who can withdrawal money from big winnings is much bigger so the worry is unfounded and this case occurs at landbase casinos which are much more regulated than online casinos so if you don't want to experience this, ignore the casinos that have been involved, especially if can't solve the case properly and only choose trusted casinos

Choosing a trusted casino is a must for every gambler to avoid problems that can arise later.
If gamblers do not carefully choose their casino by not doing research, they can end up with untrusted casinos, which can turn into casinos that scam them.
Of course, they want to avoid that happening so they have to be really selective in choosing a casino.
If gamblers can get a trusted casino from this forum by reading the many ratings other members have given, they will not choose the wrong casino.
And later, if they win, the casino will pay the winning money without asking the winner to do anything.