QUESTION: For Gambling Enthusiasts ❗❗

[Guzter]

Is PvP gaming a thing?
Is it fun to compete against strangers for money? Does it provide the same level of comfort and convenience as casino games?
I mean, I've seen couple of threads here about some decent PvP games, but I'm not sure if people really do prefer this sort of gaming, specially in terms of the fun and the ROI.

If you are familiar with the PvP gambling topic, which of the following would you pick if you had $10–$100 and felt like gambling?

1. Casino A:
Normal casino where players play Slot games, BlackJack, Rollet, baccarat, Crazy, and the rest of casino games with the chance of winning large chunk of money.

2. Casino B:
PvP casino where players compete against each others in games such as Poker, Rummy, Ludo, 8Pool, Monopoly, Race Cars, Flipcoin, etc..., with the prize being your opponents buy-in amounts.


If you don't want to express your thoughts, simply answer with A or B.

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[Guzter]

For me, I believe slot games are much better, as they are more entertaining, have less pressure & stress, and gives you the chance to turn small bet into a large chunk of money.

[jackg]

If B if your answer then I doubt you have long to wait. There's already games like axie/roy that do that sort of thing but not with good graphics/strategy yet imo as well as live table games (which I assume function like actual casinos and I was under the impression they have these for blackjack and poker).

I'd prefer a PvP that was designed and played like an MMORPG but I guess we're a while away from that being a thing (wagers could be placed on leagues of those imo too to make it more appealing to gambling).

[Guzter]

If B if your answer then I doubt you have long to wait. There's already games like axie/roy that do that sort of thing but not with good graphics/strategy yet imo as well as live table games (which I assume function like actual casinos and I was under the impression they have these for blackjack and poker).

I'd prefer a PvP that was designed and played like an MMORPG but I guess we're a while away from that being a thing (wagers could be placed on leagues of those imo too to make it more appealing to gambling).

Yeah, the thing about PvP gamling, is that most of the games that i've seen, they suck in terms of graphics and strategies.
Also, I believe having a hardcore game such as MMORPG, would be quite frustrating, as these games usually are to much skill-based, with a large gap in skills between the average player and the very good one, which makes the average player afraid to play, fearing if they match-up against a smurf.

[Yogee]

..... which of the following would you pick if you had $10–$100 and felt like gambling?

I prefer gambling against the house in silence most of the time but I'm also fine playing against another players sometimes. I usually don't want to exert much effort and prefer to rely on luck when playing in a casino so it's natural for me to pick A over B.

[Wapfika]

PvP is always a conflict on gambling if you asked normal gambler like that doesn’t have skills on skill based game like you mention on the option B. Normally like me will choose the option A that is easy and purely luck based game because we have no chance of winning on PvP games that requires skills.

There might me some user here that will pick option B but I’m confident that the majority here will choose A because it’s more easy to win on this type of game rather than competing against the pro on the game that they are good at.

[bitbollo]

Personally, I would prefer option B because there is more chance to win and these kind of games are based on strategy / skill / experience and not just "lucky based".
But games of group B requires people to be online (enough people with different skills, wagering option...) it's not easy to have such setup...

[Guzter]

..... which of the following would you pick if you had $10–$100 and felt like gambling?

I prefer gambling against the house in silence most of the time but I'm also fine playing against another players sometimes. I usually don't want to exert much effort and prefer to rely on luck when playing in a casino so it's natural for me to pick A over B.

Well the only thing good about PvP, is that it's a bit engaging, as you won't be playing in silent. But usually when I'm gambling it's like "Ok I have xx$, don't waste my time, it's either i'm mega rich or feel cheated", most of the times i feel cheated  :/.

[Guzter]

PvP is always a conflict on gambling if you asked normal gambler like that doesn’t have skills on skill based game like you mention on the option B. Normally like me will choose the option A that is easy and purely luck based game because we have no chance of winning on PvP games that requires skills.

There might me some user here that will pick option B but I’m confident that the majority here will choose A because it’s more easy to win on this type of game rather than competing against the pro on the game that they are good at.

Indeed it is easier, but less certain.

[dothebeats]

I would choose A. I really like playing alone and grinding it out solo, and I find myself consciously trying hard to be better against other people drains too much energy than I really like. But if I'm in the mood to go and be a try-hard, perhaps going to a PvP casino is the way to go. It's really fun to go against someone that has better skills than you because you'll be learning a lot in how they play and how they respond to pressure which you can definitely use the next time you'll be playing the same game.

[swogerino]

It all depends on the mood of a person I think.Personally I like playing in a casino which offers a lot of slot machines as I would love to try my luck instantly when I am trying to win a jackpot or the max payout of a slot machine because slots have the maximum prize most of them from x5000-x300000 depending on the slot,usually most of them x5000-x10000 and this is something I cannot find in a PvP casino.

When I am feeling relaxed and I want to go play a Sit n Go Texas holdem poker tournament sure I would choose the PvP casino but this would happen rarely compared to the number of times I would choose a normal casino.

[darkangel11]

If B if your answer then I doubt you have long to wait. There's already games like axie/roy that do that sort of thing but not with good graphics/strategy yet imo as well as live table games (which I assume function like actual casinos and I was under the impression they have these for blackjack and poker).

I'd prefer a PvP that was designed and played like an MMORPG but I guess we're a while away from that being a thing (wagers could be placed on leagues of those imo too to make it more appealing to gambling).

I feel like it's going to be the future one day.

Imagine a game like diablo that uses a cryptocurrency instead of gold. You drop crypto in game, use it as a currency in their store, can spend it on exchanges outside of the game, hold it in a wallet and wager it in casinos. Then you can also bet it against other players in a pvp within the game and win more.

As far as I know PvP gambling is not a thing yet, not even in the simplest way like 2 players playing chess or something. The only way to do PvP in a casino is to play poker.

[Welsh]

B, PVP. However, it has to be a skilled based game, and not something that's based on luck or at least have some skill, and some luck like a lot of the card games out there. This has been done though. I'm personally, against any completely luck based games, I just don't find them fun. You're basically guaranteed to lose in the long run. Hence, why I like sports betting. I see it as myself against the bookie that puts the odds out. I lose most of the time, but I still don't feel like I'm being cheated out of winning by some predetermined odds.

[pawel7777]

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2. Casino B:
PvP casino where players compete against each others in games such as Poker, Rummy, Ludo, 8Pool, Monopoly, Race Cars, Flipcoin, etc..., with the prize being your opponents buy-in amounts.

I prefer B for the entertainment value. But looking purely from the profitability perspective, any online PvP games that are played online and where there are big money involved, will have a high risk of being abused by bots. And as we already know, there are pretty much no skill/strategy games left where computers can't outperform people. You can win short term (i.e. few hands in poker) but, in the long-run, you're doomed to fail, as computers don't make mistakes.

But there's another form of P2P gambling that I find quite interesting: P2P sports/events betting, where odds are determined by the amounts wagered on each side of the bet. In this kind of betting, there's a big chance of getting a really good odds if you go against the grain.

[Guzter]

I would choose A. I really like playing alone and grinding it out solo, and I find myself consciously trying hard to be better against other people drains too much energy than I really like. But if I'm in the mood to go and be a try-hard, perhaps going to a PvP casino is the way to go. It's really fun to go against someone that has better skills than you because you'll be learning a lot in how they play and how they respond to pressure which you can definitely use the next time you'll be playing the same game.

I can't say it better.

[Guzter]

B, PVP. However, it has to be a skilled based game, and not something that's based on luck or at least have some skill, and some luck like a lot of the card games out there. This has been done though. I'm personally, against any completely luck based games, I just don't find them fun. You're basically guaranteed to lose in the long run. Hence, why I like sports betting. I see it as myself against the bookie that puts the odds out. I lose most of the time, but I still don't feel like I'm being cheated out of winning by some predetermined odds.

Well, for me a mix of luck and skill would be the best. As if it's solely based on skill, it will be either you skilled at the game or you'll only be losing money.

[OgNasty]

PvP gambling would be awesome. Many years ago there was a platform that let you gamble against other players in an online mini putt putt game. It was fun. This was pre-crypto. The problem is that people always find a way to cheat or they master certain things so it isn’t as fair as it should be. One day gambling will find its way into popular video game systems though. When you can bet real money against players on your Xbox playing popular games, that will be awesome.

[Silberman]

PvP gambling would be awesome. Many years ago there was a platform that let you gamble against other players in an online mini putt putt game. It was fun. This was pre-crypto. The problem is that people always find a way to cheat or they master certain things so it isn’t as fair as it should be. One day gambling will find its way into popular video game systems though. When you can bet real money against players on your Xbox playing popular games, that will be awesome.

This is the direction we may be headed, after all what are loot boxes if not another form of gambling already? However this will probably push the rating of those video games immediately to the A rating which is only for those aged 18 and above, besides this will bring all kind of trouble especially when it comes to the matching algorithm, since now players could use their smurf accounts to beat players with lesser skills, collusion will become a problem, players could lose intentionally to drop their ranking and then get some easy wins, and a myriad of other problems which we see whenever money is at stake.

[coolcoinz]

The problem is that people always find a way to cheat or they master certain things so it isn’t as fair as it should be.

Mastering isn't a problem as you master it the fair way. What I find annoying in all the PvP games is that people either cheat using software, or they find bugs and glitches that allow them to win against other players and make their experience as bad as possible. This used to be a thing in all shooters, especially battlefield and call of duty series. For this reason while choosing a gambling PvP game you'd have to be prepared to lose money, even if you're a skilled player.

There's also a thing with practice. Would you allow players to play without wagering, just to get to know the game and get better at it before they make their bets? If you do, you'll end up with people experimenting with various tactics and you give them more time to find glitches and bugs they can later use against other players. If you don't do it, the only way to get better would be to put money into the game, so people ready to put a lot of time and money into the game ultimately win more, which makes it a pay to win game.

That said, I'd still choose B, if the game was well made.

[harizen]

PVP gaming is really a thing but only for those who are skilled enough in that particular and specific game.

Not all do have those skills that's why others preferred just playing the usual casino games and find their luck. PVP type of gaming is also for experienced ones that a pre-knowledge about the game is really necessary before anyone wants to compete with others with stake money.

There are also games that might be prone to some cheats or any sort of game bot e.g chess, checkers, pool, billiards etc. and we don't know if we are against a real human or a bot.