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Question: Who should be in prison more
SBF - 56 (88.9%)
Ross Ulbricht - 6 (9.5%)
non of them... - 1 (1.6%)
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February 04, 2023, 05:30:55 PM
Merited by El duderino_ (4)
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According to everything I have read and learned about Ross Ulbricht and SBF, they both merit a prison sentence for the crimes they have committed. Because both SBF and Ross Ulbricht committed significant crimes, in my opinion there is no distinction between their crimes and how some persons might have been affected by them. However, as for me is a work of judiciary to decide who will serve the highest punishment.

However, the FTX incident really hurts me because I was using the exchange at the time and suffered some losses as a result, which even sent me to the hospital.even if I don't see any new evidence to support it, I can also say that the occurrence might have caused some life damage.
Sorry man for the losses enquired from this incident for me am just happy that justice actually got to these folks its doesn't really matter which one of them did the most grevious sin all we are concerned about is that people like these men should always be put behind bars if not the damages they will further cause to the society at large will be far greater. Am just happy that the judicial system is not asleep on such issues anymore because there was a period of time when cases like this were not properly handle and the people involved in such were just overlooked or maybe they possibly involved corruption by paying for their freedom @luna crash

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February 05, 2023, 10:45:58 AM
Merited by El duderino_ (4)
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But in reality I don't believe he'd have any trouble at all. He was paying too many people in high places and his well-connected parents would be pulling every rope they had to keep SBF in Federal Camp with a simple sentence in exchange for silence where all the money went.

I also hope that both of them are not above the law, both of them must receive punishment for every deed they have done. All crimes in the eyes of the judge are the same, don't be sharp towards people below, but blunt towards people who have money.
Don't worry, everyone who embezzles money will face many lawsuits. They will never have a normal life again. Despite what a joke mom and dad did to make up for it, they connected so well. Hope SBF spends some time in jail, it would be crazy not to go to jail.

It is really disappointing that one person is rotting in jail for committing a crime and the other is under house arrest for committing such a big crime. If the judicial system is done like this then the common people will lose faith in the judicial system.
SBF is still waiting for trial and while doing so he was released on bond which is a standard practice for a white collar crime.
The US justice system is a joke. this man should be behind bars. I don't understand the legal angle here, maybe he was acquitted and will be tried later, but still wrong. what a joke.
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February 05, 2023, 12:40:32 PM
Merited by El duderino_ (4)
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The US justice system is a joke. this man should be behind bars. I don't understand the legal angle here, maybe he was acquitted and will be tried later, but still wrong. what a joke.
What's not to understand: since he was charged for financial crimes only and had no previous charges, he was released on a $250 million bond and will wait for trial at his parent's house. And no, he was not acquitted as that would mean he had a trial and that he was declared not guilty which is obviously not case here as his trial starts on October 2nd. Of course it would be nice if he spent the time until trial in jail, but that was never a realistic scenario based on other high profile scammers cases.

I don't know where are you from, but if he was from my country he certainly wouldn't sit in jail while waiting for trial, and most likely not in the majority of other countries either. Hell, if he was from my country and if he donated so much money to ruling parties, I would be 100% sure that he will be acquitted in the end.

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February 05, 2023, 03:31:27 PM
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Don't worry, everyone who embezzles money will face many lawsuits. They will never have a normal life again. Despite what a joke mom and dad did to make up for it, they connected so well. Hope SBF spends some time in jail, it would be crazy not to go to jail.
The criminal people don't have in their mind about what happen later for their children, mom, dad and every lovely in their live because have blind with how much money scam. I think what did by SBF most criminal cases and how many people loss their money and I don't know about their condition right now. I think many FTX user have much assets there faced frustrated and how long SBF in the jail still not make the user happy and back to normal life after with how much money loss.

I think SBF should get more than jail and want to see him in the dark jail without any good facilities accepted, make him frustrated and want to make his life end as soon possible.

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February 05, 2023, 03:59:06 PM
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Don't worry, everyone who embezzles money will face many lawsuits. They will never have a normal life again. Despite what a joke mom and dad did to make up for it, they connected so well. Hope SBF spends some time in jail, it would be crazy not to go to jail.
My belief is that shortcuts to wealth and power corrupt the soul. Each shortcut you take will only strengthen the next shortcut. It starts small. A few little things. you get away with it. Then the next shortcut is a little more adventurous. Then comes the shortcut which has moral implications i.e., you actually hurt someone.

This SBF should be in prison for life for destroying the lives of not the super rich because they are fine, but the lives of innocent people who have invested their life savings in Sam Bankman-Fired FTX.

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February 05, 2023, 07:50:02 PM
Merited by El duderino_ (4), GiftedMAN (4), Dunamisx (2), DdmrDdmr (1), dbc23 (1), Patrol69 (1)
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For Bible believers, All sin are equal in the sight of God. And in our normal society no one is above the law, So if someone has committed an offense that is punishable by law, be it killing, armed robbery, cyber crimes or Fraudulent practices and in one way or the other be a sponsor to such things, Then if found guilty the offender should go face the law and if it involves going to the prison or jail, the person should be there to learn some lessons. The bottom line is wether SBF, Ross Ulbricht no one is above the law and both should go to prison if found guilty of their acts.
Everyone is equal before the law but some people can be specially treated by the law. The law is unbendable but the humans that interpret and enforce the law can be manipulated. Don't forget tht SBF donated both to the Republicans and Democrats and his parents are highly connected. All these facts can influence the judgement which might lead to a short sentence or long sentence with paroles. Ross Ulbricht was just a commoner that wanted to promote privacy but he did that for the underworld making his business immoral. He is not also politically connected and this led to a very harsh punishment.

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February 06, 2023, 06:57:12 AM
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It is really disappointing that one person is rotting in jail for committing a crime and the other is under house arrest for committing such a big crime. If the judicial system is done like this then the common people will lose faith in the judicial system.
SBF is still waiting for trial and while doing so he was released on bond which is a standard practice for a white collar crime. On the other hand, Ross Ulbricht was (among other things) charged with conspiracy to commit murder (most likely a bullshit charge) so he wasn't given that option.


Ross Ulbricht bought and sold banned drugs and banned products on his website. Yes it is a matter of many threats to human life.  Maybe if some of his prohibited products were used by people, there would be a danger of human life. But on the other hand SBF has destroyed the entire Crypto market. Many investors around the world invested huge amounts of money in his exchange but he intentionally bankrupted his exchange. As a result there are many investors who lost them everywhere. And many committed suicide not being able to accept these things. Therefore, the court found SBF's crime greater than that of Ross Ulbricht and sentenced him to a higher sentence. While Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life in prison, the court sentenced him to 115 years in prison, exacerbating SBF's crimes. So far everything was fine but if the court had not given him permission to remain under house arrest then people would not have raised a finger against the court. Many people have commented that the law is different for the rich and the poor.  Here the court has completely lost to money. Since SBF has committed a far greater crime, the court should have made him serve the sentence he was awarded. But the court allowed him to remain under house arrest in exchange of money which really surprised everyone.

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I think that Ross Ulbricht operated a site that kept doing illegal things like arms and drugs could be traded there and some people say even more tragic things were happening so based on this perspective I think he deserves to be in prison but I don't know if he should be spending his life in prison,20 years is enough for any crime for any person to have a chance to turn to be a better one and start doing good things with their life.

As for SBF he cheated a huge amount of people and he made money himself by cheating these people no matter what he tries to make him self not guilty,I think that he too deserves to stay in prison for a long time until he reflects as if they let him free I am pretty sure he will come up with another scam scheme to cheat people again,once a cheater always a cheater as they say.

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Ross Ulbricht has served his punishment for the crime he committed in prison.  Although he stands in the criminal dock but because of his crime people have not jumped towards suicide but have suffered.  Ross Ulbricht is serving a 20-year prison sentence.  I think a sentence of 20 years is appropriate for him.

SBF he has cheated people so people were on the verge of suicide.  And people came to the streets losing wealth worth crores of rupees, this crime is very big.  According to his crime he deserves health but the law is criminal because he is under house arrest in his own residence by taking bribe as fine.
But, Now I think FTX owner SBF has not been punished according to his crime.  And I myself invested in FTX and I suffered total losses and I was in the hospital at death's door.  And sbf I demand punishment again and again on my behalf for what he has cheated the people.  As if the law would punish him by taking him to prison again.

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Ross Ulbricht's case should be reinvestigated

There is more to Ross Ulbricht's life than we know. Ross Ulbricht created a website called Silk Road in February 2011 primarily so that people could buy and sell products using his website. He created the website Silk Road for the purpose that people can choose the right product according to their choice and freedom using this website.  He created the website with great intentions but later the Silk Road website spread worldwide and many buyers and sellers were attracted to this website. Here various products are widely used for buying, selling, searching and within few days the worldwide Silk Road website turns into a huge marketplace. But no one can believe that this huge website is running illegal services, goods, activities, smuggling, prohibited transactions etc. under the cover of buying many products. In the wake of these anti-social activities, the FBI launched an investigation and was arrested on October 1, 2013. Based on the so-called various complaints and complaints, he was sentenced to two life terms and 40 years of imprisonment without physical labour.
However, in April 2022, President Joe Biden pardoned 78 convicted criminals who had been involved in various criminal activities, including murder, extortion, money laundering, and various anti-social activities. But 38-year-old Ross Ulbricht, who is involved in less criminal activities than them, is serving time in prison. His case has been recommended for re-investigation at various times from various quarters but his case has not been brought under any prosecution from any political quarters.

However, despite committing more crimes than that, the sentence was waived due to the recommendation of political leaders. The SBF involved in the most recent FTX scam was arrested for stealing and laundering $10b from innocent people, but is currently under house arrest due to recommendations from various political circles and a $250M bond, if SBF's crime in this case is Much more serious than Ulbricht.

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Merited by El duderino_ (4)
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Ross Ulbricht has served his punishment for the crime he committed in prison.  Although he stands in the criminal dock but because of his crime people have not jumped towards suicide but have suffered.  Ross Ulbricht is serving a 20-year prison sentence.  I think a sentence of 20 years is appropriate for him.

SBF he has cheated people so people were on the verge of suicide.  And people came to the streets losing wealth worth crores of rupees, this crime is very big.  According to his crime he deserves health but the law is criminal because he is under house arrest in his own residence by taking bribe as fine.
But, Now I think FTX owner SBF has not been punished according to his crime.  And I myself invested in FTX and I suffered total losses and I was in the hospital at death's door.  And sbf I demand punishment again and again on my behalf for what he has cheated the people.  As if the law would punish him by taking him to prison again.
Ross Ulbricht's crimes may be trivialized in the first place, but his crimes are very serious. If the illegal drugs that he bought and sold had spread throughout the world, it would have posed a great threat to human life. Earlier, the court convicted him and sentenced him to life imprisonment.  I think it is a fitting punishment for him. On the other hand SBF bankrupted an exchange where people had invested huge amounts of money. Many have lost confidence in crypto currencies due to scams. People don't trust exchanges anymore. But he was also found guilty by the court and sentenced in a conflict. The court convicted him and sentenced him to 115 years in prison. But his family made a special plea through money and got permission to keep him under house arrest. Even after committing such a big crime, since the court gave him so much relief, many people will not be afraid to do such scams later. As a result of which the money deposited by the common people will be destroyed, so I would say that the court should reconsider this matter and give a verdict.

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There is more to Ross Ulbricht's life than we know. Ross Ulbricht created a website called Silk Road in February 2011 primarily so that people could buy and sell products using his website. He created the website Silk Road for the purpose that people can choose the right product according to their choice and freedom using this website.

Silk Road was the most sophisticated and extensive criminal marketplace on the Internet. This site enables hundreds of thousands of drug dealers, including smugglers, to move hundreds of kilograms of illegal drugs. As far as I know, the site's sales total $1.2 billion. He was able to quickly grow his money through illegal transactions. He tries to attack people by threatening to reveal information. All in all he is a big criminal. Sam Bankman-Fried is another serious offender in recent times."The collapse of FTX was a crime, not an accident," many might think of as an accident, but it was definitely a fraud, making Bankman-Fried look like a serial liar," SFB argued in various ways. FTX rival Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong tweeted, implying that even the most naive person shouldn't believe Sam's claim that it was happen by an error.

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Ross Ulbricht created an online platform called Silk Road Reloaded and Dark Web. He used to buy and sell various illegal money transactions and drugs etc. from there. When this secret source was later leaked, Ross Ulbricht was indicted and subsequently arrested. And the US government sentenced him to life in prison for his crime. I think that is punishment enough for him.
The past year has seen another major criminal named Sam Bankman-Fried, the CEO of FTX. Who broke the dreams of many investors at the end of 2022 by deceiving his cryptocurrency exchange. He almost brought the cryptocurrency market to ruin when he announced the bankruptcy of FTX. And later when he was arrested for this crime. And the United States government took him to court and sentenced him to 115 years in prison. But her father, Joseph Bankman, was later released on $250 million bail in a plea deal and lives with his family under house arrest. I think this sentence was not enough for him but it was better to give him life imprisonment.

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February 06, 2023, 11:50:49 PM
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For Bible believers, All sin are equal in the sight of God. And in our normal society no one is above the law, So if someone has committed an offense that is punishable by law, be it killing, armed robbery, cyber crimes or Fraudulent practices and in one way or the other be a sponsor to such things, Then if found guilty the offender should go face the law and if it involves going to the prison or jail, the person should be there to learn some lessons. The bottom line is wether SBF, Ross Ulbricht no one is above the law and both should go to prison if found guilty of their acts.
Everyone is equal before the law but some people can be specially treated by the law. The law is unbendable but the humans that interpret and enforce the law can be manipulated. Don't forget tht SBF donated both to the Republicans and Democrats and his parents are highly connected. All these facts can influence the judgement which might lead to a short sentence or long sentence with paroles. Ross Ulbricht was just a commoner that wanted to promote privacy but he did that for the underworld making his business immoral. He is not also politically connected and this led to a very harsh punishment.

Sometimes influence cannot be used if the case is so strong and many people following the updates towards the criminal who do the crime to many people. And in case of SBF I don't think those powerful man willing to attach their name to them because it can ruin their polical career so most provably only SBF is the one who's helping self and for sure once the case will be tackled again by the authority this man will be totally sent to jail.

Its just those people who get affected will continue to seek for justice so that this man cannot escape for the frauds he done to many people around the world.

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February 07, 2023, 12:33:05 AM
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The US justice system is a joke. this man should be behind bars. I don't understand the legal angle here, maybe he was acquitted and will be tried later, but still wrong. what a joke.
What's not to understand: since he was charged for financial crimes only and had no previous charges, he was released on a $250 million bond and will wait for trial at his parent's house. And no, he was not acquitted as that would mean he had a trial and that he was declared not guilty which is obviously not case here as his trial starts on October 2nd. Of course it would be nice if he spent the time until trial in jail, but that was never a realistic scenario based on other high profile scammers cases.

I don't know where are you from, but if he was from my country he certainly wouldn't sit in jail while waiting for trial, and most likely not in the majority of other countries either. Hell, if he was from my country and if he donated so much money to ruling parties, I would be 100% sure that he will be acquitted in the end.
i think that's the same faith he would enquired if he was actually from my place too,  well corruption has eaten the structure of every government especially the judiciary which are supposed to be handling such cases with care and preciseness but only to be having some adjustments to some ("special cases") thats how i would put it. He  currently awaiting trial so he is supposed to be in some kind of restricted place for the government to be watching his movement but not in prison yet because he needs to be trialed on Court to plead if he is guilty or not,  for me I don't think this is even necessary because seeing that he is very influential and with the backings of a rich mom and dad, i feel maybe he penalties for the massive fraud crimes will be very little compared to what he is supposed to be served. But my take on this issue is he should be serve according to the law after his trial and the law should not adjusted because of his influence on the Society, this man has so much life with this scandal of his so its only his own life too gets destroyed.
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February 07, 2023, 12:57:45 AM
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Ross Ulbricht He committed the crime bye he was punished.  I respect the law in that he was sentenced to 20 years in prison for his crime.  But the two culprits here are Ross Ulbricht and Sam Bankman Fried (SBF).  Ross Ulbricht is serving a prison sentence of 20 years by law for his actions, but he is serving time under house arrest for committing more crimes than the SBF.

Crime1: Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) FTX has more than 1 million customers owing SBF due to its bankruptcy.  Out of 1 million people, thousands of people were on the verge of suicide.

Crime2: Sam Bankman Fried (SBF) is living under house arrest after he bribed US legal officials with $250 million to free him from the law.

Finally, Between the two persons we have committed two crimes to the SBF, I for my part let him be hanged.  Because later on, he should not have the opportunity to commit any crime.

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I searched the website with two people to write something. From the results I got, I made a meme with a signal and posted it for you. All I know about Ross Ulbricht is an e-commerce based website he created in early 2011 called Silk Road, he was indicted and arrested in mid-2013 for this website. He was later convicted in 2015 and is currently serving life in prison. Around that time, he was sentenced for embezzlement of assets amounting to one billion dollars.

But SBF who is currently the most talked about in the crypto world for his own website FTX.com. In November 2022, his company was declared completely bankrupt and various allegations were made against him and the allegations were proved to be true. He embezzled and laundered as much as $10 billion in public assets by bankrupting his own exchange FTX. But now, even though the allegations against him are proven, he is sentenced to 115 years in prison, but SBF is now living in family detention with his parents under special conditions. Although in this case his father gave the government a $250M bond.

I would like to say one thing to you that a person who has caused a financial loss of a billion dollars is currently in jail while a person who has caused a financial loss of ten billion dollars is currently out of jail.

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February 07, 2023, 06:08:55 AM
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Both are criminals and both should be punished. Ross Ulbricht is already serving his sentence. I have no qualms against him anymore. The real problem at the moment is Sam Bankman Fried. He is still not in prison because the US justice system is not as competent as it seems. He has bribed them and living a luxurious life under the pretense of house arrest. This is the same guy who made millions by using his ponzi token and caused so much pain as well as panic in the mind of investors. Many are still struggling to survive but this guy is enjoying his life in his house. He needs to go to jail!

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February 07, 2023, 09:16:14 AM
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Both are criminals and both should be punished. Ross Ulbricht is already serving his sentence. I have no qualms against him anymore. The real problem at the moment is Sam Bankman Fried. He is still not in prison because the US justice system is not as competent as it seems. He has bribed them and living a luxurious life under the pretense of house arrest. This is the same guy who made millions by using his ponzi token and caused so much pain as well as panic in the mind of investors. Many are still struggling to survive but this guy is enjoying his life in his house. He needs to go to jail!
Both criminals should be punish, but when we look into the perspective one crime might be greater than the other in my own view cause of the amount life destroyed financially, emotional and mentally. But all the same I still maintain the stand that no criminal should be left unpunished. The one at home @sam bankman fried should receive the highest punishment because he case is has left millions if not billions crippled financially due to this ftx scandal. But just like you said corruption of the justice system in the USA won't allow justice to prevail. Although he is still up for trials so can't be prison yet but let's see after the trial on October  what punishment would be given to him.











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February 07, 2023, 09:45:47 AM
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A criminal may commit a greater crime when he is acquitted or released from the prescribed punishment. The better the judicial system of any country, the less crime can be found. Ross Ulbricht is serving the punishment for his crimes which is a good thing. But Sam Bankman Fried is still living a life of luxury in his home, which is not a punishment. Therefore, he should be convicted and sentenced to speedy execution under the law. America today is claimed to be the role model of the whole world, but there is also a lot of corruption and terrorist activities. Sam Bankman Fried and Do Kwon are among the few individuals who have committed heinous crimes in cryptocurrency world. As a crypto-investor, I expect a terrible punishment for both of them.

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