New bitcointalk rank? 🔥

[seoincorporation]

I remember that day, when the merits become a thing in the forum. Since I was a Legendary user at that point I get instant 1000 merits, and when I realize other users have to get those 1000 merits to become a legendary user I really feel bad for them.

It has been a long time, this week was the 5th birthday of the merits system as we can see in this thread ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 ). And a lot of people have worked hard to become legendary user in the forum. So, I was thinking...

Let's rest 1000 merits to all the legendary users from those who get 1000 merits and make a new raking for those who haven't hit the 1000 merits. For example, if you have 1990 merits, then you will be 10 merits away from legendary, but you will have the new rank until then.

What would be a good name for this new rank?

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[Pandorak]

Simple question from me, what is the urgency of creating a new rank?

[bullrun2024bro]

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Actually there is no need for new ranks tbh. The current system works fine. People that post quality content rank up and shitposters won't make it.

Apart from that, you should visit Bitcointalk to communicate, talk about Bitcoin and socialize with other Bitcoin enthusiasts - not to hunt for a new forum rank.

What would you call something after Legendary anyway? Super Legendary? Elite Legendary?

I think we're good.

[Bttzed03]

Hold on, do you want to change the ranking of members who were airdropped 1000 merits? You don't want them to be Legendary ranked until they earned 1000 merits? If so, just let it be. What you're trying to suggest just makes things complicated/confusing.

I think it's better to have a new rank after Legendary. It has been discussed many times before and these are some of the names that members came up with:

Epic
Legend
Mythical
Ancient
LAMP ( Legendary Awarded Merit Points)
Elite
Veteran

^ Can't mention them one by one but credit to all the people who made those suggestions.

[tranthidung]

It is not an emergent request for a new rank above Legendary but I see it makes sense. In the past, such request was raised a few times.

• 2016: What's above Legendary?
• 2018: Above Legendary rank
• 2019: What if Theymos added new Rank after Legendary?
• With some rankups of outstanding members to above 10,000 earned merits, this request makes more sense. Personally I would like to have only one more rank with a required earned-merit is 20,000. I mean above Legendary is something really huge and very extreme challenging to reach it.

theymos has never replied on this idea and likely he did not feel comfortable to deploy it officially.

[Despairo]

Simple question from me, what is the urgency of creating a new rank?

There's no urgency, but some users think the forum need a new update in order to appreciate the user which has earn a lot merit and active in this forum. If I'm not mistaken the current rank (Brand new - Legendary) was created from the first time and there's no update about the new rank.

There are a lot users already earn 3K+ merit and few of them already earn 10K+ merit.

I think the new rank should be at least 2.5K merit, similar like how Full member rank up to Senior Member. After 2.5K, then 5K and 10K, however after all there's no end since merit keep increasing and there's no any "adjustment".

[Findingnemo]

What would be a good name for this new rank?

AI suggested this, I mean LoyceV

One rank above the Legendary is my wish.

My wish is to call it Legend.

But let's take it to the next level, if it is 2000 then we may see them high in numbers so keep the range much more higher and I thought 5000 merits is much deserved to sit above the legendary.

[yahoo62278]

Hold on, do you want to change the ranking of members who were airdropped 1000 merits? You don't want them to be Legendary ranked until they earned 1000 merits? If so, just let it be. What you're trying to suggest just makes things complicated/confusing.

I think it's better to have a new rank after Legendary. It has been discussed many times before and these are some of the names that members came up with:

Epic
Legend
Mythical
Ancient
LAMP ( Legendary Awarded Merit Points)
Elite
Veteran

^ Can't mention them one by one but credit to all the people who made those suggestions.

I wouldn't mind a rank called ELITE for those who have earned 2500 merits and have 2500 activity. We should have something for users to strive for even if it is something as small as a new rank. The numbers could even be tweaked but they need to be fairly high as making this rank is an honor IMO. You are the best of the best as far as most would be concerned. 2500 or more "earned" merits is a heck of an achievement as is 2500+ activity.

[tranthidung]

I wouldn't mind a rank called ELITE for those who have earned 2500 merits and have 2500 activity. We should have something for users to strive for even if it is something as small as a new rank. The numbers could even be tweaked but they need to be fairly high as making this rank is an honor IMO. You are the best of the best as far as most would be concerned. 2500 or more "earned" merits is a heck of an achievement as is 2500+ activity.

It is good to have a rank with 2500+ earned merit and 2500+ activities which I can be eligible (of course for other members too).

However as I raised my opinion on this issue, I think having too many ranks is not good (it seems theymos has same opinion on it too) so if there is only one more rank, let's make it as a Lifetime Achievement Rank which should be superb hard to achieve. Like I proposed, let's make it 20,000+ earned merits, not required activities but should be not smaller than required activities for Legendary rank.

Its new rank name can be Elite so we will have an Elite class here

[hugeblack]

The above discussions talk about the name of the rank, as if it was created and we are looking for the name. There are no indications for creating a new rank, and therefore talking about its name or its requirements is a waste of time.
Personally, I see adding a new rank that will increase spam from the previous ranks, because it will get a higher wage.

[mk4]

Veteran

This would definitely make an interesting rank. Probably requires 5 years since registration, along with like 2000-5000 received merits or something.

[Charles-Tim]

What would be a good name for this new rank?

If a rank should be added after reaching 1000  merits, I will prefer the rank to be awarded after reaching either 5000 or 10000 merits, but I will prefer 10000 merits which I know would take me more years to achieve.

But merit system is working perfectly which will not make this to be considered.

[Mpamaegbu]

For example, if you have 1990 merits, then you will be 10 merits away from legendary, but you will have the new rank until then.

I know it's a hypothetical situation you're trying to create here but can we also raise the bar for the new rank requirement to say 2,990 merits (or anything that should be above what you already have). You escaped the first cutoff, you shouldn't escape another one 🤔. Again, to tell you the truth, what you're suggesting concerning the legendary rank that were airdropped 1,000 merits will also need to be applied on lower ranks that were airdropped merits too. Don't you now see how confusing it will turn the whole forum? By the way, who is going to devote the time to gather all that data?

[LoyceV]

Personally I would like to have only one more rank with a required earned-merit is 20,000.

How about just "more Merit than theymos"

I don't expect a new Rank to only include a few users (including theymos), that would be like patting himself on the back and from what I've seen, he doesn't do that.
So if it's going to happen, it won't be ridiculously high.

[Daniel91]

The above discussions talk about the name of the rank, as if it was created and we are looking for the name. There are no indications for creating a new rank, and therefore talking about its name or its requirements is a waste of time.
Personally, I see adding a new rank that will increase spam from the previous ranks, because it will get a higher wage.

The admins on this forum may be slow to implement some new ideas and suggestions on this forum, but if it shows that there is interest and support from the forum community, they will eventually accept the suggestions.
How long did some members wait for promotion in merit source? Half a year, a year?
In this forum, things never happen quickly, but they do eventually, if a consensus is reached on something.
I personally think that the time has come to add a new forum rank, for members with 2500 and more merits, and I don't care what that new forum rank would be called.
Members with 2500 merits and more are really members who have contributed a lot to this forum, its reputation and quality, and deserve recognition for that through a new forum rank.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Actually there is no need for new ranks tbh. The current system works fine. People that post quality content rank up and shitposters won't make it.

Of course we don't need a new rank, and it's a given that idiot shitposters will never even get to Hero member status, but we've had this discussion a few times before and there are a sizeable number of people who would support adding a rank above Legendary.

I'm one of those, even though if nothing ever changed with the ranking system I'd be just fine with that.  But just like any other proposal, it doesn't matter what my opinion is--it matters what Theymos thinks of it, and last I heard he wasn't planning on adding any new ranks.

The admins on this forum may be slow to implement some new ideas and suggestions on this forum, but if it shows that there is interest and support from the forum community, they will eventually accept the suggestions.

I guess that's true for some ideas, but not for all of them, even ones that had a lot of community support (like having a mobile-friendly version of the site).  I'm also not sure to what extent the moderators are involved in the decision making process with respect to community proposals.  I get the sense that it's kind of a one-man show up on the mountain where Theymos lives.

[Timelord2067]

I think it's a dud idea.

I've just ticked over 2000 merits - 1000 merits for having done the hard yards over the years and the second 1000 merits for posting what others have thought are meritorious. (And not one "give a leg up to some one close to ranking up" merit).

Yah me.

[Lucius]

I remember that day, when the merits become a thing in the forum. Since I was a Legendary user at that point I get instant 1000 merits, and when I realize other users have to get those 1000 merits to become a legendary user I really feel bad for them.

You are looking at this matter from a completely wrong perspective, because nobody got anything as a gift, not even those 1000 merits. All members who were Legendary rank before the merit system remained at that rank because they got it according to the old rules, and if the merit system had existed before, some of us would have earned it without any doubt.

The only injustice (if we'll call it that) is that some shitposters invested only their time to become Legendary, and today the rules are different and apart from time you have to invest a lot of effort to reach the same rank.


The new rank is not something that makes too much sense to me, but I think that if such an idea were to come true, it should be awarded to those who, for example, earned over 10 000 merits, because it is still an achievement that is worthy of some kind of award. What I would also suggest to make is some kind of difference between the Legendary rank that is achieved only with airdropped merits and the one that is achieved exclusively with earning merits.

For example :

Legendary (airdropped) remains the same as before.
Legendary achieved without airdropped merits (coin color change).
Legendary who earned over 1000 merits after airdropped merits - maybe call them Legendary Veteran.

[tranthidung]

You are looking at this matter from a completely wrong perspective, because nobody got anything as a gift, not even those 1000 merits.

All members have to work and match with forum rules, rank requirements (which have been changed a few times in forum history) to achieve their ranks. It is just different to get it easy or difficult.

The new rank is not something that makes too much sense to me, but I think that if such an idea were to come true, it should be awarded to those who, for example, earned over 10 000 merits, because it is still an achievement that is worthy of some kind of award.

They're really deserved it and in my opinion, a highest rank (new one) should be applied for 10,000+ or 20,000+ merit. No more rank above it so its requirement should be really high.

What I would also suggest to make is some kind of difference between the Legendary rank that is achieved only with airdropped merits and the one that is achieved exclusively with earning merits.

For example :

Legendary (airdropped) remains the same as before.
Legendary achieved without airdropped merits (coin color change).
Legendary who earned over 1000 merits after airdropped merits - maybe call them Legendary Veteran.

It is too complicated and makes forum ranks, badges look more messy. I don't support it.

I visited some other forums as a guest and saw their ranks, badges are abundant, unnecessary colorful and messy so I don't think I need it in Bitcointalk.

[Rikafip]

Simple question from me, what is the urgency of creating a new rank?

There's no urgency (or real need imho) at all, it's just that some people are taking this forum way too seriously.

So let's say that theymos makes a new rank for reaching 3k merit/activity. Eventually even that will be reached by many members and it won't feel special any more so should he keep adding new ranks just so people have to strive for something?