Sports betting fraud in Brazil 😦

[death69]

People involved in such things will try to cover it from the public and will not let their members divulge it. And if they suspect someone will do or leak it, they will prevent it and might eliminate it forever. This clearly gives risks to those involved but they continue to continue because there is a large money behind all this so they can accept the risks.

Yes, it's true, as you said, anyone will be blind when dealing with very large amounts of money.
They even dare to take risks by manipulating everything and they don't even hesitate to eliminate someone who tries to leak their crimes to the public.
But this will only happen to a group of rich people who have so much money that they can do anything with their money to make even more money.
This action can harm a lot of gamblers, even from small circles to big gamblers.

And sadly, the people involved in that business don't care about the fate of other people because as long as they can take advantage of what they're doing, they will continue to do it, even if it means sacrificing someone's life to protect their business. Such a business must be eradicated and requires courage from the authorities to reveal it so that no one becomes a victim, be it players, the public, or even local officials in the business circle. But this is not easy because the authorities must try hard to find people who can tell the truth about the business and disclose it to the public. If the public finds out, there is a possibility that such businesses will be traced and eradicated.

Yo, it's like hellla depressing when you hear about busineses that put their money over humnan lives. But let's keep it real, not all busineses are like that. Bein a sports head, I've seen first hand how shady deals and unethical moves can mess up the whole games vibe. That's why it's vital for authoriteis to step up and expose and eliminate any wrong doings. It's not just about the players and officials, but the fans too who put their trust in the sport. Speakin up and spilling the tea takes guts, especailly when there's a chance of gettin some heat, but it's all about making sure justise is served. We can all do our part by stayin informed and supporting the homies who are fightin against these crookid practises. As my man Nelson Mandella once said, "Sport has the power to change the world, it has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does." So let's work together to create a world where sports are played with fairness and respect for everyone involvedd.

[BobK71]

How common do you think this kind of fraud is on European countries, for example?
I would personally never think that this could be possible in Germany or the United Kingdom, however, I am not from there.

Sometimes we underestimate the reach of these problems around the world and the power of criminal organizations.  So people believe they are safe betting in the Bundeslisga, but perhaps they are not. 

I was lucky to find an exact answer to your question. It is said that there are so many match-fixers in Europe and that's because there are so many lower leagues there but maybe it can also happen to other countries who have a huge number of lower leagues.

We never underestimate these kinds of problem because we know how serious it is as it can damage the reputation of the sport, club, league, and country. This is also annoying if you are too confident about the bets that you placed in a sports betting site but then you lose it because of a fixed match but even without these types of frauds, losing can still be inevitable sometimes because we are simply unlucky.

Match fixing is a common phenomenon in every part of the world. But I can definitely say that this type of match fixing is most common in minor leagues. So now if I hear any news about match fixing then I don't give much importance. Because now some games basically run for fixing. When sports are a means of business, many think of it as such way. But if there is no hope to get rid of this kind of scandal then people will not have much interest in the game. But for gamblers it will not have much effect.

[panganib999]

People involved in such things will try to cover it from the public and will not let their members divulge it. And if they suspect someone will do or leak it, they will prevent it and might eliminate it forever. This clearly gives risks to those involved but they continue to continue because there is a large money behind all this so they can accept the risks.

Yes, it's true, as you said, anyone will be blind when dealing with very large amounts of money.
They even dare to take risks by manipulating everything and they don't even hesitate to eliminate someone who tries to leak their crimes to the public.
But this will only happen to a group of rich people who have so much money that they can do anything with their money to make even more money.
This action can harm a lot of gamblers, even from small circles to big gamblers.

And sadly, the people involved in that business don't care about the fate of other people because as long as they can take advantage of what they're doing, they will continue to do it, even if it means sacrificing someone's life to protect their business. Such a business must be eradicated and requires courage from the authorities to reveal it so that no one becomes a victim, be it players, the public, or even local officials in the business circle. But this is not easy because the authorities must try hard to find people who can tell the truth about the business and disclose it to the public. If the public finds out, there is a possibility that such businesses will be traced and eradicated.

Yo, it's like hellla depressing when you hear about busineses that put their money over humnan lives. But let's keep it real, not all busineses are like that. Bein a sports head, I've seen first hand how shady deals and unethical moves can mess up the whole games vibe. That's why it's vital for authoriteis to step up and expose and eliminate any wrong doings. It's not just about the players and officials, but the fans too who put their trust in the sport. Speakin up and spilling the tea takes guts, especailly when there's a chance of gettin some heat, but it's all about making sure justise is served. We can all do our part by stayin informed and supporting the homies who are fightin against these crookid practises. As my man Nelson Mandella once said, "Sport has the power to change the world, it has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does." So let's work together to create a world where sports are played with fairness and respect for everyone involvedd.

I see your point and I am all for the protection of a sport's integrity and reputation as well, but this alone wouldn't really stop these fixings from every happening. For me, and I saw someone here who made this point as well, you have to nip the problem from the bud, in this case punishing those found of imploring athletes from fixing matches. It's easy to be tempted to fix games especially in minor leagues where pay isn't that big, but if we were to employ tactics that would effectively wipe these scums of the planet off the games we love, I am very sure fixing matches will just be a thing of the past. In any case, I can also see how this is a pipe dream considering how hard it is to track perpetrators, but who knows?

[Sandra_hakeem]

yes indeed such scams are usually more common in local leagues which are less conspicuous when lots of people are betting.
but frauds as the OP mentioned can also happen in major leagues which we don't know about. because there used to be cheating or fraud like that when the dealer bribed players to lose matches without scoring goals.
so, incidents like this can be a lesson for us to be careful when placing bets. because what seems to win doesn't necessarily win, sometimes it's the opposite.

Look, that's the main reason why we won't have most of these teams included in major leagues...cus apparently, they're used for clear business purposes....I think 'em administrators would only have that as an option to generate cash from that means, and also from casinos that are in affiliation with them.
It's a simple trick, since those leagues are locally played and they're no professional inspection, so in that case anything could be done. The whole thing doesn't make football interesting at all, most especially when they're only faking the whole thing.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Bushdark]

Gambling is supposed to be of all honesty but with the way things are going, there had been bad eggs that had been making things worse for gamblers manipulating the system to the extent that gamblers are not making up to the kind of money they supposed to make. Gambling is fun when dishonesty is added to it, it becomes something worse that everyone will want to use greed to win.
This kind of things do happens most in street gambling where gamblers don't mind using cheating system to make sure that they make winnings and sometimes when it is discovered, it do lead to fight that can lead to bloodshed.

[Hispo]

How common do you think this kind of fraud is on European countries, for example?
I would personally never think that this could be possible in Germany or the United Kingdom, however, I am not from there.

Sometimes we underestimate the reach of these problems around the world and the power of criminal organizations.  So people believe they are safe betting in the Bundeslisga, but perhaps they are not. 

I was lucky to find an exact answer to your question. It is said that there are so many match-fixers in Europe and that's because there are so many lower leagues there but maybe it can also happen to other countries who have a huge number of lower leagues.

Thanks for linking some information.
And it is shame it is also a thing there in Europe, I suppose that since the number of small leagues are relatively high there, the authorities must also have a harder time trying to track and punish those who they believe to be behind those crimes.

Not something I would have expected of Europe, tbh. Here in Latin America generally believe that laws there are harsher and are enforced.

[rahmad2nd]

Match fixing is a common phenomenon in every part of the world. But I can definitely say that this type of match fixing is most common in minor leagues. So now if I hear any news about match fixing then I don't give much importance. Because now some games basically run for fixing. When sports are a means of business, many think of it as such way. But if there is no hope to get rid of this kind of scandal then people will not have much interest in the game. But for gamblers it will not have much effect.

Therefore, the importance of a good system and strict regulation. at least, it will reduce parties who want to take advantage and manipulate the results of a match, generally such as fixing the score. Match fixing scandals and all kinds of things are not a foreign phenomenon for us football fans. one of which happened in Seria A, which is called the Calciopoli scandal. which involved five big Serie A clubs such as Juventus, AC Milan, Lazio, Reggina and Fiorentina, which happened in 2006.

So, what about the minor leagues. which clearly the system and regulations are very doubtful. in my country, if there is a match fixing it is called elephant football. even today, the issue of Match fixing has always graced football in my country. However, that doesn't mean it can't be fixed. it just needs supervision from various parties. also, improving the system even better and stricter regulation. gradually, cases like this, we will rarely hear about in the future.

[len01]

yes indeed such scams are usually more common in local leagues which are less conspicuous when lots of people are betting.
but frauds as the OP mentioned can also happen in major leagues which we don't know about. because there used to be cheating or fraud like that when the dealer bribed players to lose matches without scoring goals.
so, incidents like this can be a lesson for us to be careful when placing bets. because what seems to win doesn't necessarily win, sometimes it's the opposite.

Look, that's the main reason why we won't have most of these teams included in major leagues...cus apparently, they're used for clear business purposes....I think 'em administrators would only have that as an option to generate cash from that means, and also from casinos that are in affiliation with them.
It's a simple trick, since those leagues are locally played and they're no professional inspection, so in that case anything could be done. The whole thing doesn't make football interesting at all, most especially when they're only faking the whole thing.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

it's fine to gamble in the major leagues as long as you bet the bare minimum and use money you can afford to lose.
because in sports betting anything can happen even if it's in the world cup.
and we as gamblers must understand such incidents. because cheating will definitely occur in the world of gambling and in any league there will usually be certain cheating.
so when you want to bet on any league it is recommended not to bet too many large amounts to avoid this. because in gambling we will only be able to choose to wait for luck. even though cheating happened but we chose the right team that the bookies chose, of course we will also be lucky.

[coin-investor]

How common do you think this kind of fraud is on European countries, for example?
I would personally never think that this could be possible in Germany or the United Kingdom, however, I am not from there.

Sometimes we underestimate the reach of these problems around the world and the power of criminal organizations.  So people believe they are safe betting in the Bundeslisga, but perhaps they are not. 

I was lucky to find an exact answer to your question. It is said that there are so many match-fixers in Europe and that's because there are so many lower leagues there but maybe it can also happen to other countries who have a huge number of lower leagues.

Thanks for linking some information.
And it is shame it is also a thing there in Europe, I suppose that since the number of small leagues are relatively high there, the authorities must also have a harder time trying to track and punish those who they believe to be behind those crimes.

Not something I would have expected of Europe, tbh. Here in Latin America generally believe that laws there are harsher and are enforced.

Game fixing in small leagues is very rampant not specifically in one country, we have a share of that in our country
sometimes audiences can trace it, or feel that there's fixing going on while the game is being held these small leaguers are not good at hiding game fixing and the audiences are good at tracing or looking at game fixing, but if the games are very heated and both teams are very determined to win and even involves a brawl people will think that the game is real and may even think that players and managers are betting for their team which is good, than betting on their opponent and fixing the match.

[goinmerry]

Game fixing in small leagues is very rampant not specifically in one country, we have a share of that in our country
sometimes audiences can trace it, or feel that there's fixing going on while the game is being held these small leaguers are not good at hiding game fixing and the audiences are good at tracing or looking at game fixing, but if the games are very heated and both teams are very determined to win and even involves a brawl people will think that the game is real and may even think that players and managers are betting for their team which is good, than betting on their opponent and fixing the match.

Can't really be avoided especially in small leagues.

But still, there are lots of people who are being patronized by game fixing and I don't understand why in some countries, it's like there's an easy access to game fixing or related schemes.

This something can't be stopped that's why on some areas, they have to lived with it.

[dothebeats]

Gambling is supposed to be of all honesty but with the way things are going, there had been bad eggs that had been making things worse for gamblers manipulating the system to the extent that gamblers are not making up to the kind of money they supposed to make. Gambling is fun when dishonesty is added to it, it becomes something worse that everyone will want to use greed to win.
This kind of things do happens most in street gambling where gamblers don't mind using cheating system to make sure that they make winnings and sometimes when it is discovered, it do lead to fight that can lead to bloodshed.

Gambling isn't supposed to be honest, it just needs to be fair. But with the way things are going, fairness isn't really upheld and things like these happen because people are not held to a certain standard. Well, what do you expect? So long as an industry rakes in the big bucks, it will slowly lose its morality and sense of fairness. These people know from the get go that if they do certain things, they'll get the huge payout. It's certainly what's happening right now and I doubt it will change any sooner.

[SirLancelot]

Game fixing in small leagues is very rampant not specifically in one country, we have a share of that in our country
sometimes audiences can trace it, or feel that there's fixing going on while the game is being held these small leaguers are not good at hiding game fixing and the audiences are good at tracing or looking at game fixing, but if the games are very heated and both teams are very determined to win and even involves a brawl people will think that the game is real and may even think that players and managers are betting for their team which is good, than betting on their opponent and fixing the match.

Can't really be avoided especially in small leagues.

But still, there are lots of people who are being patronized by game fixing and I don't understand why in some countries, it's like there's an easy access to game fixing or related schemes.

This something can't be stopped that's why on some areas, they have to lived with it.

It can be, if you are aware already that there is one that is going to happen but if you know if which team will win then you will just ride the wave. If you are clueless and has a lot of doubt then it will be better to stay away from smaller leagues when it comes to sports betting. There is no surprise on why a lot of people love game fixing, that is of course it's a way to gain an easy money.

Some countries are just full of corruptions and this includes game fixing on some sports and even on some other events or contests but I think there is no betting involved there. It's just the candidates themselves are the ones who are going to benefit the most.

[AmoreJaz]

Gambling is supposed to be of all honesty but with the way things are going, there had been bad eggs that had been making things worse for gamblers manipulating the system to the extent that gamblers are not making up to the kind of money they supposed to make. Gambling is fun when dishonesty is added to it, it becomes something worse that everyone will want to use greed to win.
This kind of things do happens most in street gambling where gamblers don't mind using cheating system to make sure that they make winnings and sometimes when it is discovered, it do lead to fight that can lead to bloodshed.

Gambling isn't supposed to be honest, it just needs to be fair. But with the way things are going, fairness isn't really upheld and things like these happen because people are not held to a certain standard. Well, what do you expect? So long as an industry rakes in the big bucks, it will slowly lose its morality and sense of fairness. These people know from the get go that if they do certain things, they'll get the huge payout. It's certainly what's happening right now and I doubt it will change any sooner.

people who are into this kind of game, don't know the word morality anymore. as long as their pockets are full, that's more than enough for them to commit this kind of act. it is gambling, so yes, don't expect everyone to be honest especially if they have the chance to manipulate the results of the game. i also don't think it will stop. this will just be a cycle so long there are athletes who can be bribe and high rollers who are capable of bribing these athletes.

[goaldigger]

Gambling is supposed to be of all honesty but with the way things are going, there had been bad eggs that had been making things worse for gamblers manipulating the system to the extent that gamblers are not making up to the kind of money they supposed to make. Gambling is fun when dishonesty is added to it, it becomes something worse that everyone will want to use greed to win.
This kind of things do happens most in street gambling where gamblers don't mind using cheating system to make sure that they make winnings and sometimes when it is discovered, it do lead to fight that can lead to bloodshed.

There’s always someone who are going to try to corrupt the system and take advantage of this and fraud is really happening in sports betting which is more easy for them to manipulate especially if they have the money. There’s no way to control this because they are working behind the scene and I’m sure other staffs of the team are also involve into this one. Gambling is just for fun to many while gambling is a best way to make money to others, you’re lucky if you are able to ride with this fraud and make profit as well.

[seleme]

Fraud may happen in second leagues, it is always better to think about why big bookmakers don't open such matches or put lowest limits for betting. Gamblers know something shady may happen in such situations, it is always better be careful and not betting over the amount you can afford to lose. Hopefully regulations will handle this case as expected.

[Viscore]

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Frauds and rigged games could really happen but just like on what most people been saying that it do happen mostly on smaller leagues.

yes indeed such scams are usually more common in local leagues which are less conspicuous when lots of people are betting.
but frauds as the OP mentioned can also happen in major leagues which we don't know about. because there used to be cheating or fraud like that when the dealer bribed players to lose matches without scoring goals.
so, incidents like this can be a lesson for us to be careful when placing bets. because what seems to win doesn't necessarily win, sometimes it's the opposite.

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

[BobK71]

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Frauds and rigged games could really happen but just like on what most people been saying that it do happen mostly on smaller leagues.

yes indeed such scams are usually more common in local leagues which are less conspicuous when lots of people are betting.
but frauds as the OP mentioned can also happen in major leagues which we don't know about. because there used to be cheating or fraud like that when the dealer bribed players to lose matches without scoring goals.
so, incidents like this can be a lesson for us to be careful when placing bets. because what seems to win doesn't necessarily win, sometimes it's the opposite.

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

Cheating or fraud in the game is now a common image, its aptitude is increased in some places drastically. Again, it can be very little in some places. We have heard of many countries where there is a lot of fraud but few countries are still good. If there is any hidden fraud, it is relatively less and it is natural that when the number of frauds increases, the number of good ones decreases. This kind of trend is more active especially in third world countries.

[molsewid]

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

I agree, we cannot blame the organizers only because teams and players in both teams should know this thing. It is so frustrating that there are still people who are doing this for the sake of money or fame the committee should not tolerate this kind of thing and they should hardly implement the law. We need to exercise integrity and transparency in sports so that it would be fair for all people for players, fans and those who are betting with their fav team.

[South Park]

I believe it’s not only happening in local leagues, because even in major leagues the scam still happens but we can’t really pinpoint as to what or where it took place but we know it’s always possible to happen. As long as there is greed, irresponsible players or coaches or even organizers will always be tempted to cheat. That’s why we should always make some good research first before placing bets to avoid being deceived.

I agree, we cannot blame the organizers only because teams and players in both teams should know this thing. It is so frustrating that there are still people who are doing this for the sake of money or fame the committee should not tolerate this kind of thing and they should hardly implement the law. We need to exercise integrity and transparency in sports so that it would be fair for all people for players, fans and those who are betting with their fav team.

I think this is what it should be done, anyone that is part of a sport which accepts bribes to manipulate the results must be expelled of participating in any professional sport for life, as in my view this is way worse than consuming steroids, those consuming steroids are looking to improve their performance and this gives them an unfair advantage, but those that accept bribes go against the spirit of the competition itself and they must not be allowed to be part of any professional sport as they make the fans incredibly disappointed about it.

[Fortify]

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00).

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.