War: who benefits and how!

[swogerino]

Frankly, the US is the cause of this war, and they are the party that is receiving a lot of orders to buy weapons from allies in the world, so it can be said that the US is the most beneficial party. Besides, because of the war, the world fell into an economic crisis, also when they exported inflation to the countries that were their debtors.

I think that you maybe partly right.However we are in the brink of another economic collapse,similar to that of Lehman Brothers in 2008 as the main banks are all over the news now and their failures with Silicon Valley Bank being one heavily seen in the news in the Internet right now but not only that,even Barclays.So war can never bring anything positive no matter who is winning and who is losing,even if US is getting more orders to sell weapons how do you explain that most likely we are going to see a recession soon starting from the very US country which of course I don't wish but things are looking exactly that way,so there are no real winners in a war.

[Mauser]

With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.

For the families directly affected by war it's terrible, but there are a lot of companies who profit directly from it. The first beneficiary that come to mind are all the arms companies that produce equipment needed in Ukraine. There is a lot of demand for ammunition, tanks, planes and missles. Then you have the indirect effect of all major countries in the world increasing their military budget and modernising their army. Any company involved in the military supply chain should be doing well. The second big sector profiting from the war is the energy market. All the major corporations increased their prices and profit from the sanctions against Russia. Last year there were large profits for the energy companies.

[ringgo96]

for me there is nothing profitable because both of them suffered losses both financially and human lives and will always be remembered badly in the future,although there are winners I don't think they are also profited because it is considered a usurpation that they did by making a resistance,but for other countries that sell arms to the two countries that are at war it is indeed very profitable, but for those who are at war like today russia and ukraine they are equally detrimental.

[CODE200]

for me there is nothing profitable because both of them suffered losses both financially and human lives and will always be remembered badly in the future,although there are winners I don't think they are also profited because it is considered a usurpation that they did by making a resistance,but for other countries that sell arms to the two countries that are at war it is indeed very profitable, but for those who are at war like today russia and ukraine they are equally detrimental.

Based on my history classes and on my understanding, I see that people who benefits on war are obviously the one who wins. Especially when it comes on owning one territory. Just like what happen in my country hundred years ago. Many country owned are land up to the point that our national heroes fought back and do everything for our freedom. I'm glad that they won the battle against invader. In the end its beneficial to all of us since we are now not under any foreign country at all. One point also I see why they start war is because they want lands with lots of minerals that I see as a benefits for who ever have it in the end of the battle. Which can help for their economy to grow in the future.

[Smartprofit]

Frankly, the US is the cause of this war, and they are the party that is receiving a lot of orders to buy weapons from allies in the world, so it can be said that the US is the most beneficial party. Besides, because of the war, the world fell into an economic crisis, also when they exported inflation to the countries that were their debtors.

I think that you maybe partly right.However we are in the brink of another economic collapse,similar to that of Lehman Brothers in 2008 as the main banks are all over the news now and their failures with Silicon Valley Bank being one heavily seen in the news in the Internet right now but not only that,even Barclays.So war can never bring anything positive no matter who is winning and who is losing,even if US is getting more orders to sell weapons how do you explain that most likely we are going to see a recession soon starting from the very US country which of course I don't wish but things are looking exactly that way,so there are no real winners in a war.

In my opinion, the negative situation in the US economy is not a consequence of the war in Ukraine.  

In 2008, the world experienced an economic crisis.  

However, its causes have not been reliably established and not eliminated.  Instead, a policy of quantitative easing was announced, that is, there was a massive emission of US dollars and their distribution to all interested parties.  

In fact, it was the state's rescue of inefficient owners (large banks and corporations) from bankruptcy.  However, even after the stabilization of the economic situation, inefficient owners remained inefficient owners.  

The situation was exacerbated by the coronavirus covid-19 - - the answer to it was an even more massive emission of funds.  There is a lot of money in the world and very few efficient producers.  

This is the reason for the current economic crisis of 2023....

[yohananaomi]

War is a big and serious disaster, a lot of infrastructure such as bridges, roads, public facilities, airports and others are damaged and even destroyed so that when the war ends many countries are in debt to build infrastructure, of course the countries that lose in the war will suffer greatly and it will take tens of years to recover, but there are those who benefit from war, namely countries that produce weapons, foodstuffs and others.

In fact, it is certain that whoever is in war will not benefit, it is certain that he will experience losses that will be prolonged and will disrupt the country's economy. winning or losing is the same as losing, because everything is sacrificed for the sake of the ego of the war, which will obviously have an impact on all existing activities.
completely agree that from the war the beneficiaries are those who make things worse by providing weapons and if they need more they have to pay and not yet with the need for food and clothing.
so war really doesn't have a good effect, so avoid war as long as the peace door can still be run.

War broke out because of the competition for benefits, so when two countries fight with each other, there will be one country to win, which is the country that benefits. If war does not bring benefits, then no country needs war because it will cause damage in all aspects of the country.

We don't need war, but politicians and arms dealers need war to bring them profits as well as power. Without war, politicians cannot consolidate their power.

true friends, sad because many want to be controlled and used as puppets to do everything they want, including war. but those who fought did not realize that they were being made puppets because their egos were put forward without thinking about the impact that would occur after the post-war itself.

Those who supply accommodation for the war certainly hope that it will continue to happen because they do have other intentions, where they hope that what will be needed will be provided, even though initially as aid but later it will be used as a necessity and must be purchased.

all play and make the war a field for profit, politicians seek sensation and producers of war equipment make profits from the tools purchased.
This is an unbreakable chain which is indeed interrelated and mutually beneficial, not for the warring countries themselves.
More about true

[RealMalatesta]

for me there is nothing profitable because both of them suffered losses both financially and human lives and will always be remembered badly in the future,although there are winners I don't think they are also profited because it is considered a usurpation that they did by making a resistance,but for other countries that sell arms to the two countries that are at war it is indeed very profitable, but for those who are at war like today russia and ukraine they are equally detrimental.

I think Putin may have? I am not entirely sure and I do not know Russian politics but it is obvious that he did it to consolidate power and he wanted to control the nation in a way like "we are in a war right now and you are talking about politics, shame on you! how can you speak these things when we are in a war!" type of way.

I know this because I have seen it happen a million times in history, people who were barely in power created chaos so that they could act as if they are controlling the chaos and ignore the fact that they were the ones who created the chaos, and they will find someone supporting them as well. You will see that Putin won't give up power unless he dies or he is killed, there is no way to democratically get rid of him, impossible.

[SUPERSAIAN]

In times of war, people with enough resources always made money. Usually, both countries suffer, and few merchants living in the countries make money. In every war, the same people, the same companies, make money. In a complete cycle, humanity actually loses in this process. If these wars were not chaos, perhaps there would be a much faster rise. Ukraine war, a whole country has to leave its homeland. We wish the wars to end

[serveria.com]

The biggest winner will be Russia, but only if they will manage to win the war. They will get morale boost, Ukrainian territory, people, remaining industry, sea ports  etc etc etc.

Russia will no longer win this war, and this is already obvious. As soon as the weather is good for the offensive of heavy equipment and Ukraine receives the military assistance promised from the West, which is already arriving, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will counterattack and in May-June will inflict a residual defeat on Russian troops, and will also liberate almost all of their occupied territories.

Despite the mobilization of more than 300,000 of its citizens since September and the general offensive in eastern Ukraine, Russia has not been able to achieve any success at the front in recent months. Moreover, the largest armored offensive by the Russians near Ugledar turned into a major defeat, where over 130 armored vehicles were destroyed (including 36 tanks), and elite units of the Russian airborne troops were defeated. Moreover, these units never reached the front line and were completely defeated on the way.
Since May last year, Russia has been attacking the city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine to no avail. Almost the entire 50,000-strong Wagner PMC and the remnants of the 200,000-strong Russian invasion army in February last year ingloriously perished here. Russia is already running out of military equipment and now rarities from the Second World War are already getting to the front, and Russian troops are increasingly refusing to attack the fortified positions of the defenders of Ukraine. The Russian command has recently chosen the "meat rampart" tactic, when, without artillery preparation and armored vehicle support, it continuously attacks the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in small groups of 10-20 people. Probably in the hope that the barrels of their weapons will overheat in the Ukrainians or the cartridges will run out. Over the past 24 hours alone, more than a hundred attacks by the invaders have been repulsed, and their daily losses on the Ukrainian front often amount to more than a thousand people.

Just to remind you Ukraine has been receiving military equipment from it's allies worth billions of dollars since day one. Why do you think that receiving 30 or 40 German tanks will improve the situation considerably?

As to Bakhmut, from what I've read, is already under siege, it's only a matter of time that it's going to fall. By the way, the attack on Bakhmut started in November not in May as you mentioned. In May some shelling by the Russians took place though. At least that's what Wikipedia has on record. And you didn't mention the Ukrainian losses and they should be pretty severe too.

After such a defeat, Russia is unlikely to remain within its current borders. Five regions of Russia have already held an online referendum for secession from Russia and the formation of independent states. Further it will be even more interesting.

Sounds interesting... Could you please provide a link to your source?

[DrBeer]

Frankly, the US is the cause of this war, and they are the party that is receiving a lot of orders to buy weapons from allies in the world, so it can be said that the US is the most beneficial party. Besides, because of the war, the world fell into an economic crisis, also when they exported inflation to the countries that were their debtors.

1. Do you just hate the USA because the standard of living in the USA is not available to you?
2. And now seriously:
- tell us about the background and situation in Ukraine in 2010-2013
- what is the influence of the United States on what is happening in Ukraine during the specified period
- What are the reasons, confirmed by facts, of the growing discontent of the citizens of Ukraine, to which I belong, and was a direct participant in the Maidan?
- tell the real story of the events of November 2013-February 2014, and what is the US participation in these events?

And then we will laugh together, and you will be ashamed for the fact that you wrote nonsense in the likeness of this inference of yours ...
PS I'm sure you won't answer Well, or it will be a set of clichés from anti-American "manuals" prepared by outcast countries ...

[Mr.right85]

War is one thing that no society should engage themselves into as its effect is devastating and unforgettable upon generations. When two or more countries are warring it is said that there are other countries that benefits in one way or the other from the war as it prolongs and intensifies, especially economical benefits is one of such.

War is one way to reduce a whole civilisation back to its stone age. It usually that damaging as in a matter of days or weeks, years of work would be reduced to rumbles.

In a war, no one really gets to benefit if we look at it grossly. Everyone loses eventually.  Nations gets to lose there economic power and the wealth of there armory is diminished hence, there would be a need to visit the treasury.

Then, there are those that becomes opportunist and that is those that control the food. Eventually, the way of life of a people and means of livelihood is rendered useless and man must eat no matter what. Having food and being able to secure as well as get it out to the needing masses would make you an important figure.

[DrBeer]

With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.

For the families directly affected by war it's terrible, but there are a lot of companies who profit directly from it. The first beneficiary that come to mind are all the arms companies that produce equipment needed in Ukraine. There is a lot of demand for ammunition, tanks, planes and missles. Then you have the indirect effect of all major countries in the world increasing their military budget and modernising their army. Any company involved in the military supply chain should be doing well. The second big sector profiting from the war is the energy market. All the major corporations increased their prices and profit from the sanctions against Russia. Last year there were large profits for the energy companies.

It would be possible to talk about the beneficiaries if they were the initiator of the massacre in Ukraine, which Russia has staged since 2014. Well, or does it turn out that Putin is a submissive executor of the will of the arms companies?
Now you are confusing cause and effect ... I don’t deny it - against the backdrop of the terrorist war unleashed by Russia in Ukraine, defense companies in the West were forced to earn money, which positively affected their economy, which suffered from covid and other world problems. But this is a consequence, not a cause. Moreover, income is an accompanying process of helping Ukraine in the destruction of world terrorism in the face of Russia and its terrorist army, and I don’t see anything wrong with that!

[Woodie]

With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly,

Affecting all of us is truly the sad part about this which is  also a selfish move by the engager and it's allies for fueling this war which is something I would never have thought would happen in the 21st century and beyond...

I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.

As much as war is bad,this could have seen some benefiting in terms of fetching higher prices for some of the materials needed in this war like bullets ( technically making copper prices go up) , oil prices per barrel has equally gone up making any suppliers more richer and all this seems calculated to make this all artificial manipulation.

I guess other benefits the war has brought is opening up new markets for trade in commodities that cannot be supplied by either Russia or Ukraine as they are preoccupied with the war.

[xSkylarx]

In times of war, people with enough resources always made money. Usually, both countries suffer, and few merchants living in the countries make money. In every war, the same people, the same companies, make money. In a complete cycle, humanity actually loses in this process. If these wars were not chaos, perhaps there would be a much faster rise. Ukraine war, a whole country has to leave its homeland. We wish the wars to end

Only the business of war machines can be profitable as well as the fuels that are why those who made tanks, weapons and bombs are having a lot of things to do because countries are ordering a lot of them. While people in the warzone are hiding and starving because of the chaos. The only valid thing that I want to see is that only those presidents would be at war and not those people that lived in their places since the most affected are the people.

[Wildwest]

when there is a war in a country, then countries that produce military weapons then the country will definitely be profitable in arms sales and countries that are experiencing war I think are very much at a loss because there are many costs that must be incurred to buy weapons in order to survive when dealing with their enemies, even though there will be a winning side but I think the benefits they get exceed the costs they have incurred, But if they have faced war then no matter what they sacrifice in order to get a victory.

[GreenStox]

war will make a victorious country superior, but more negative impacts caused by hunger food supply less chaos everywhere, and of course the loss of life that cannot be avoided.
Coupled with current global economic issues that make almost all citizens in the world experience difficulties.

[sana54210]

Only the business of war machines can be profitable as well as the fuels that are why those who made tanks, weapons and bombs are having a lot of things to do because countries are ordering a lot of them. While people in the warzone are hiding and starving because of the chaos. The only valid thing that I want to see is that only those presidents would be at war and not those people that lived in their places since the most affected are the people.

The oil thing is so far out funny at this moment that, I can't believe that the world can still turn a blind eye to it. You know who controls all the oil in all of Iraq right now? American companies.

Yes that's right, they went there, they said there were weapons of mass destruction, realized there were none, tens of thousands of people died, even hundreds of thousands if you count all the Iraqis that died, and in return, what did they do? Left a chaotic nation who is doing much worse than before America got there, and in return of all the terrible things and mistakes they did, they took all the oil they had as a payment. How could this be ok with anyone in the world is beyond me.

[DrBeer]

War is one thing that no society should engage themselves into as its effect is devastating and unforgettable upon generations. When two or more countries are warring it is said that there are other countries that benefits in one way or the other from the war as it prolongs and intensifies, especially economical benefits is one of such.

War is one way to reduce a whole civilisation back to its stone age. It usually that damaging as in a matter of days or weeks, years of work would be reduced to rumbles.

In a war, no one really gets to benefit if we look at it grossly. Everyone loses eventually.  Nations gets to lose there economic power and the wealth of there armory is diminished hence, there would be a need to visit the treasury.

Then, there are those that becomes opportunist and that is those that control the food. Eventually, the way of life of a people and means of livelihood is rendered useless and man must eat no matter what. Having food and being able to secure as well as get it out to the needing masses would make you an important figure.

You should explore modern russia, but outside of moscow and st. petersburg. You will see that this is almost the stone age of the 21st century. When they started talking about sanctions and how this would affect SIMPLE Russians, I said back in 2022 that the sanctions would not affect ordinary people, or the majority of the inhabitants of Russia! For the simple reason that their standard of living already looks wild and backward, and it is almost impossible to lower it even lower!
But the Kremlin's parody of the Fuhrer needs to somehow divert the attention of its slaves, with "great victories" and the "revival of the USSR" - otherwise the masses will begin to rage and demand explanations of where most of the money goes from "all the resources of the countryman concentrated in Russia, the richest country in the world": )

[Stedsm]

Great thread by you OP.
Nobody sees anything good in war because peace is the only option to live and let live in this world. The thing Ukraine isn't understanding is, NATO is not defending or helping them (because Ukraine has not yet signed them yet) but NATO is fuelling this war just because they see good in this.

You will ask: How?
When NATO countries (I won't take names here) are sending money and all types of missiles and equipment to give Russia a strong tackle, they're doing this all because of one reason, to weaken Russia in terms of nuclear weapons that they are using to safeguard themselves and give a tough fight to NATO. Just think that why NATO countries are not directly getting involved into this? You've the reason now.

[DrBeer]

Great thread by you OP.
Nobody sees anything good in war because peace is the only option to live and let live in this world. The thing Ukraine isn't understanding is, NATO is not defending or helping them (because Ukraine has not yet signed them yet) but NATO is fuelling this war just because they see good in this.

You will ask: How?
When NATO countries (I won't take names here) are sending money and all types of missiles and equipment to give Russia a strong tackle, they're doing this all because of one reason, to weaken Russia in terms of nuclear weapons that they are using to safeguard themselves and give a tough fight to NATO. Just think that why NATO countries are not directly getting involved into this? You've the reason now.

Do not be offended, but you, too, confuse cause and effect, and do not study these events with the necessary attention. aid to Ukraine did not start after the idiotic pretext for the attack on Ukraine in 2014. And only in the summer of 2022, after the start of the second massive military-terrorist operation against Ukraine by Russia. And only after 4 months of fierce fighting. And do you know why? Most likely not, or pretending not to have heard - Russia has openly stated that after Ukraine, its goal is Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and other countries that were previously part of the Warsaw Pact. At the same time, the world saw that even Hitler's Nazis did not do such monstrous crimes and destruction as Russia does on the territory of Ukraine! And then the West, realizing that after the capture of Ukraine, the terrorist country will invade the EU already, they stopped cowardly sitting out pretending that nothing was happening, and began to help the Ukrainians DEFEND. And only recently, more powerful weapons began to arrive, before that there was only weapons for deterrence. So do not manipulate information and replace cause and effect!