War: who benefits and how!

[DrBeer]

War is a big disaster because of the many losses it causes, but behind the war of course there are countries that smile because they get profits, the country is a supplier of weapons, foodstuffs and so on, almost all production activities will stop during the war so that countries that are at war automatically buy from other countries.

Russia was counting on such a scenario.
I'll start a little from afar to understand what I mean.
When Russia launched a terrorist attack, and this was in February 2014, and not in 2022, Russia was "probing" the world reaction. And the position of pro-Kremlin politicians in the EU (Merkel, Orban, Berlusconi's entourage, Macron and some others) was "ideal" - everyone stuck their tongues into themselves .... well, you understand where. And they pretended that nothing was happening. Although in Ukraine during the period 2014-2022 a huge number of citizens of Ukraine were destroyed, hundreds of settlements were destroyed .... But the EU and the rest of the world pretended - "well, let them sort it out themselves, we are not interested, it is more interesting for us to share money from the Kremlin's oil and gas "and nothing that this money is in the blood ...
And so it was until 2022. when Putin decided for himself that the world is at his feet, everyone is afraid of him, and everyone will worship him, because he is the "oil and gas god", he has the "second army of the world", and all the policies of the world powers are in his hand ! Plus there was a "blessing" of China, because. China, on the "guinea pig" of Russia, wanted to watch the reaction of the world to the occupation of FOREIGN territories. And on February 24, 2022, Putin, with a sadistic grin, sent his troops to destroy Ukraine as a state and a subject of international law.

The reaction of the United States and Britain completely broke all the plans of the Kremlin ... The sanctions for the terrorist attack on Ukraine turned out to be very harsh. And the Russian miserable parody of the Fuhrer decided to start economic terror against the EU, which supported the sanctions. Here you have seen everything yourself - interruptions in the supply of gas. Moreover, the first "demonstration performances" were long before that. The Kremlin "showed" to Europe what would happen if you "resisted" and "disobeyed Putin." You probably remember the cessation of gas supply to the EU in the winter of 2018 and 2019 (I could be wrong - but information with dates is very easy to find), I think, literally for a couple of days, but .. just to show "who is the boss" ... But ... it turned out that the authorities in Germany had changed, and the "Kremlin bedding" was no longer may have no effect. Although you remember how Merkel tried to persuade him to sit down at the negotiating table and agree to the terms of Russia!
As a result - a complete failure, both in the war (it is going to defeat Russia), and on the world stage - Russia is a rogue country, the president is an international criminal. Perhaps you saw how the USSR collapsed, now we will see how rashism and Russia as its basis cease to exist

[1714608978]

1714608978

[1714608978]

1714608978

[Ozero]

War certainly brings huge losses, the loss of life continues to occur, the bombs and damage are so massive that it makes the countries involved in the war suffer huge losses, and during a war of course there is no economic activity, the farmers cannot take care of the rice fields, oil and gas is disrupted thus creating problems complicated.

Russia is now suffering colossal losses in the war in Ukraine, which have not been seen since the Second World War.
On March 18, in a morning report to Russian President Vladimir Putin, representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry reported on the irretrievable losses of Russian troops, that is, the number of dead and missing in Ukraine, which amounted to more than 226,000 people. Of these, 165,713 are servicemen of the regular army, 53,592 are members of PMCs and 7,144 are members of the National Guard.

In Russia, more than a quarter of a million have already been killed, several times more wounded. Was it worth it to attack your peaceful neighbors and try to take away their territory and destroy the Ukrainians as a nation? The losses of the invaders will grow much more when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will soon go on the offensive and the Russian front in Ukraine will crumble.

Very interesting info, could you please provide a source/link where you found it? I know that Ukrainian side are not disclosing their losses since day 1, whereas Russians initially started reporting casualties but then apparently stopped and classified this info. I don't think it's possible to find this data online, was there some kind of data leak?

Yes, indeed, Ukraine classified information about its losses in the war until the end of hostilities. At first, Russia named the losses, reducing them very much in order to reassure the population of their country, and when the coffins went en masse and it became useless to deny the big losses, they also stopped talking about it. But in Russia they are in control of the situation about their losses at the front in Ukraine and regularly report this to Putin. But foreign intelligence is also working in Russia, and secret data is being leaked. If such information gets into the media, then its sources are hidden. Information about Russia's military losses in Ukraine periodically appears in the media, and at the same time they refer to the Russian Telegram channel "General SVR".
Source : https://donpress.com/news/18-03-2023-putinu-posle-pereryva-ozvuchili-novye-dannye-o-poteryakh-v-ukraine.

I use information from some Ukrainian news sources that I trust. But unfortunately, there is no way to make links to the text.

[Negotiation]

In war both sides usually suffer a lot and the other side benefits from the middle and the arms dealers are more. The arms trade seems likely to flourish because there is no sign of the war ending but everyone is more or less losing but benefiting but the united states.  they are trying to get to the door of russia, and they are quite comfortable with the wind in their economy due to the sale of arms and the high value of the dollar all over the world.

[serveria.com]

War certainly brings huge losses, the loss of life continues to occur, the bombs and damage are so massive that it makes the countries involved in the war suffer huge losses, and during a war of course there is no economic activity, the farmers cannot take care of the rice fields, oil and gas is disrupted thus creating problems complicated.

Russia is now suffering colossal losses in the war in Ukraine, which have not been seen since the Second World War.
On March 18, in a morning report to Russian President Vladimir Putin, representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry reported on the irretrievable losses of Russian troops, that is, the number of dead and missing in Ukraine, which amounted to more than 226,000 people. Of these, 165,713 are servicemen of the regular army, 53,592 are members of PMCs and 7,144 are members of the National Guard.

In Russia, more than a quarter of a million have already been killed, several times more wounded. Was it worth it to attack your peaceful neighbors and try to take away their territory and destroy the Ukrainians as a nation? The losses of the invaders will grow much more when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will soon go on the offensive and the Russian front in Ukraine will crumble.

Very interesting info, could you please provide a source/link where you found it? I know that Ukrainian side are not disclosing their losses since day 1, whereas Russians initially started reporting casualties but then apparently stopped and classified this info. I don't think it's possible to find this data online, was there some kind of data leak?

Yes, indeed, Ukraine classified information about its losses in the war until the end of hostilities. At first, Russia named the losses, reducing them very much in order to reassure the population of their country, and when the coffins went en masse and it became useless to deny the big losses, they also stopped talking about it. But in Russia they are in control of the situation about their losses at the front in Ukraine and regularly report this to Putin. But foreign intelligence is also working in Russia, and secret data is being leaked. If such information gets into the media, then its sources are hidden. Information about Russia's military losses in Ukraine periodically appears in the media, and at the same time they refer to the Russian Telegram channel "General SVR".
Source : https://donpress.com/news/18-03-2023-putinu-posle-pereryva-ozvuchili-novye-dannye-o-poteryakh-v-ukraine.

I use information from some Ukrainian news sources that I trust. But unfortunately, there is no way to make links to the text.

That donpress.com doesn't look like a credible source to me. Besides, according to whois this domain is registered and hosted in Ukraine. You are referring to "some Ukrainian news sources" which definitely contain propaganda (would be logical). In other words: you don't have any credible, reputable, independent source to confirm those numbers. I guess nobody knows the real numbers atm (well apart from Putin and Zelensky and their higher military officers).

[odunybiz]

War isn't something good. No one benefit during or after war no matter the cause of the war. Imagine the resources and infrastructures destroy during the Russia and Ukrinre war recently.

[DrBeer]

That donpress.com doesn't look like a credible source to me. Besides, according to whois this domain is registered and hosted in Ukraine. You are referring to "some Ukrainian news sources" which definitely contain propaganda (would be logical). In other words: you don't have any credible, reputable, independent source to confirm those numbers. I guess nobody knows the real numbers atm (well apart from Putin and Zelensky and their higher military officers).

just find and subscribe to the Telegram channel "Гeнepaл CBP". Information from the "Kremlin corridors" is constantly published there. On the one hand, I agree - the telegram channel is not the most trusted source of information. On the other hand, by reading the information from this channel and comparing it with what is happening in reality, you can quickly make sure that the information from this channel appears before the events and accurately describes what we should expect. For at least half a year since I subscribed to the channel, I did not see a single piece of news there that was not later confirmed by reality. Just subscribe and compare the "announcement of events" with reality. You can also check some of the numbers that are published there

[iv4n]

I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.

A war profiteer is any person or organization that derives unreasonable profit from warfare or by selling weapons and other goods to parties at war.

Now do some digging and check who is "the best weapon seller" and how much they earn... these guys are far from conflict (read yachts, private islands...) but they earn a lot by selling guns all over the world. Even more when they come after the war with investments and new companies that will rebuild everything that is destroyed. Corporations... can we add anything to that?

Since I live in Serbia I have some direct experience with wars. In war times there is still a market, a dark one mostly, and prices go high because the supply is disturbed. There are many fair and unfair players... and you can't believe how much money the big players are making, the ones who have trucks and plains and government approval for their illegal business.
And of course, there are those with a disturbed moral compass. Who kills and cleans houses one after another... And when the war is over, what do you think all these people do? Assuming, of course, that they survived... These guys usually have a criminal history, and after the war ends they just continue on the same path. In Serbia, many serious crimes were committed by ex-soldiers.

Nothing good can come from wars, we all know that but we still have so many wars around. Countries have bigger and bigger armies with more and more weapons... and they say "we need it for protection"! What a joke...

...Imagine the resources and infrastructures destroy during the Russia and Ukrinre war recently.

Don't you worry! New companies will arise, and everything will be rebuilt... Who owns those companies and how they earned their "first million" is not so important. How they got big contracts is also shady, but is it really matter? The truth is sad, it's all I can say... but the world keeps sping around and we don't have any other choices than to continue to live, the best we can.

[DrBeer]

While the Kremlin propagandists are inventing new fakes, such as about "another capture of Bakhmut", we can get acquainted with real information.
By the way, in order to understand what the "second army of the world" really is, they have been trying to take the small town of Bakhmut for 8 months. Which protects the Armed Forces of Ukraine - "not representing any threat to the Russian army" A huge number of regular troops of the Russian Federation, including elite units, were destroyed there, then there was an attempt to throw the bodies of the mobilized, and then the bodies of the criminals from the PMC Wagner.

Over the past 3 months, according to the OSCE, about 30,000 Russian terrorists have died there. And this is data only on the losses of the regular army of the Russian Federation, excluding PMCs and other terrorist groups. This is data for a short period, from under one small town. You can only guess the real scale of losses ....

Now for the impact. You understand that the main part of those drafted into the Russian terrorist army are men from 20 to 50 years old. Most productive age And now imagine, if according to confirmed data, about 250,000 of them were destroyed in Ukraine. At the same time, "medical losses" - wounded, mutilated, without arms, without legs, who have lost their sight - are approximately 3 times more. In total, approximately 1 million men in Russia simply became useless or disappeared. Another 2 to 4 million left Russia, running away from mobilization. half of them are also men of the most productive age. Now they work for pennies in Georgia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and other border countries.

Now imagine what it means for a country with about 80 million people to lose 2-3 million men of their most productive age?
Of the 80 million, about 40% are pensioners, another 30% are from 0 to 18 years old. The total productive population is about 30%. Or about 24 million. In total, about 3 million of them have been removed.
Why did I specify 80 million? Because this is the real population of Russia and not fake data about 140 million, and this is easily verified ...

[Smartprofit]

The reduction of the male population in the country is, of course, a terrible catastrophe. 

Everything was fine in Russia, the only really serious problem in terms of the country's long-term prospects was the poor demographic situation. 

Sex, not aggression - that should have been the motto of the Russians! 

At the same time, the outflow of young people from Russia continues.  A friend of mine recently told me that he was going to move to Spain, he was afraid of the difficulties he would face in this country, but he had already decided to leave. 

Another friend of mine cannot leave the country yet because of his elderly parents who need constant care.  He says that two events will be the signal for him to leave the country - the adoption of a law on the introduction of the death penalty in the country and the closure of YouTube.  He believes that since the country is very large, he will be able to illegally cross the border at X hour. However, it is possible that this is an illusion.... 

The fate of a huge number of people ruined and crippled.

[DrBeer]

The reduction of the male population in the country is, of course, a terrible catastrophe. 

Everything was fine in Russia, the only really serious problem in terms of the country's long-term prospects was the poor demographic situation. 

Sex, not aggression - that should have been the motto of the Russians! 

At the same time, the outflow of young people from Russia continues.  A friend of mine recently told me that he was going to move to Spain, he was afraid of the difficulties he would face in this country, but he had already decided to leave. 

Another friend of mine cannot leave the country yet because of his elderly parents who need constant care.  He says that two events will be the signal for him to leave the country - the adoption of a law on the introduction of the death penalty in the country and the closure of YouTube.  He believes that since the country is very large, he will be able to illegally cross the border at X hour. However, it is possible that this is an illusion.... 

The fate of a huge number of people ruined and crippled.

If we discard Russia's aggression towards other countries and look "inside" - today Putin is actually destroying Russia, its future, and has crossed out almost any qualitative prospects for many decades ...
And the demographic problem, which has already been created, will create huge problems for the whole country for many decades to come.
Internal degradation, the destruction of the population, the degradation of the economy, the status of a pariah country, and other "successes" of Putin can really turn Russia into an absolutely depressive country of the 3rd world, if not worse ...

Moreover, I do not exclude the option of a "quiet" expansion of the same China, which today objectively needs women of childbearing age and those who have the opportunity to bear children. And Russian women may be China's real target. China cares about its demographics, and is already doing everything possible to avoid problems in the future.

[Ngewex Yuk]

War of course makes huge losses more than benefits, only a few countries can benefit from war, usually countries that have special relations that can supply countries that are at war, as happened with the Ukraine vs Russia war of course the countries bordering these 2 countries benefit because during the war many economic activities could not be carried out.

[fauzan Ichsan]

War of course makes huge losses more than benefits, only a few countries can benefit from war, usually countries that have special relations that can supply countries that are at war, as happened with the Ukraine vs Russia war of course the countries bordering these 2 countries benefit because during the war many economic activities could not be carried out.

due to pressing needs, we can sell at high prices. Of course, in a war situation, it will be difficult for us to make ends meet as normal, so even though they are expensive because of scarcity, we still buy them. In this case, I think that Ukraine is the most disadvantaged, because more infrastructure is damaged, and indeed it is an opportunity for neighboring countries to provide materials needed for warring countries.

[fuguebtc]

War isn't something good. No one benefit during or after war no matter the cause of the war. Imagine the resources and infrastructures destroy during the Russia and Ukrinre war recently.

That is not good for us peace-loving citizens, but for politicians, it is necessary to consolidate power as well as show strength. In war, the winner will be the beneficiary, they will have all they want if they win.

In war, the main beneficiaries are the arms sellers, and after the war ends, every country needs capital to rebuild the country, and the lenders benefit.
The wars in Ukraine and Russia are hurting the people of both countries and affecting everyone in the world, but there are always beneficiaries in it, and that's why they don't want it to end early.

[Gallar]

With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.

There are always countries that benefit from interstate wars, for example, from the Russian and Ukrainian wars, there are several countries that benefit.

CHINA
China benefited from the war between Russia and Ukraine when it came to purchasing energy businesses. this was caused by the boycott of the US and its allies.

INDIA
India also benefited from the war between Russia and Ukraine, India reportedly bought crude oil and made it fuel oil and then sold it.

maybe in the end if the war continues it will cause a crisis in Russia and Europe which is getting weaker.

[DrBeer]

With this Russia Ukraine war which the effect is felt in almost all parts of the world directly and indirectly, I want to ask are there beneficiaries to this war and in what ways are they benefiting from it.

There are always countries that benefit from interstate wars, for example, from the Russian and Ukrainian wars, there are several countries that benefit.

CHINA
China benefited from the war between Russia and Ukraine when it came to purchasing energy businesses. this was caused by the boycott of the US and its allies.

INDIA
India also benefited from the war between Russia and Ukraine, India reportedly bought crude oil and made it fuel oil and then sold it.

maybe in the end if the war continues it will cause a crisis in Russia and Europe which is getting weaker.

The benefit of China and India is, firstly, a temporary phenomenon
Secondly, this is not a benefit - but a "cynical robbing of Russia", which has driven itself into such an idiotic position.
It won't last forever or even a long period.
The only potential benefit in this situation (not from the war, but from the political situation) is China, which has already become a "big brother" for Russia, and in the future will become the owner of part of its territories, which Russia will either simply give away or exchange for "glass beads", because no one else will help Russia.

I apologize in advance for any cynicism regarding my next speech. Yes, we will never return hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens who were destroyed in a barbaric and sadistic way by the Russians ... We will not return childhood to children whose childhood will always be associated with war, death and devastation, we will never return dead husbands and sons to their wives and children and mothers...
But Ukraine, after the victory will be reborn. The destroyed cities, the economy will be restored, Ukraine will become very attractive for investment. Against the backdrop of the tragedy that occurred, this is not the worst scenario for the development of the situation.

[mulia sabee]

one of them is countries that produce defense equipment or sophisticated war equipment, they will benefit from sales made to the warring parties on the battlefield. I think only countries like that benefit in every war that occurs

[jenny56]

I thing the War between Russia and Ukraine is very dangerous, its nit affecting just the warring countries but also the economies of many other countries. That whyu there may be some beneficiaries, the overall impact is negative and harmful to all over stability and growth

[fuer44]

In the near future or in a period of war, no one gains. the victorious side got power, but many soldiers and people died. Many buildings, fields or farms were damaged. The economy must be build up again from 0. The losing side also suffers more losses because they have to be sovereign over the winning side. But in the future if the reorganization of the people's economy goes well, then the advantage will go to the side who won the war because their territory will expand and their economy will be very prosperous.

[Kath Bliss]

There are some countries that benefit from war, even if they're not directly involved. These countries may benefit economically as they sell weapons, provide resources, or provide services to the parties involved in the conflict. They can also benefit politically by influencing the outcome of the conflict, which can give them increased power and influence in the region. Additionally, some countries benefit strategically by having a buffer between themselves and potential enemies.

[DrBeer]

In the near future or in a period of war, no one gains. the victorious side got power, but many soldiers and people died. Many buildings, fields or farms were damaged. The economy must be build up again from 0. The losing side also suffers more losses because they have to be sovereign over the winning side. But in the future if the reorganization of the people's economy goes well, then the advantage will go to the side who won the war because their territory will expand and their economy will be very prosperous.

That is why Russia, a terrorist country, left us no other way out - except for the victory and defeat of Russia.
Until recently, "the greatest geopolitical hub of the world, Russia" has already turned into a nonentity and a pariah country. Yes, they still have the means to wage war. Yes, they will still terrorize Ukraine and the whole world, including with nuclear weapons. But if you now succumb to this blackmail, the world will always become a hostage to such a situation.
And that is why - there can be no peace negotiations - only a victory over Russia, an international court, reparations and decades of punishment of all the inhabitants of Russia for supporting the war and the bastard government.

In the meantime, a little on the topic, about the next successes of "great Russia":
Russia's federal budget deficit continues to grow, said Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, speaking with a report on the work of the government in the State Duma.
As of March 8, the government's spending more than doubled its revenues - 6.3 trillion rubles against 3 trillion, Mishustin said.
Thus, after a record deficit of 1.8 trillion rubles in January for 25 years, growth to 2.6 trillion rubles in February, in the first week of March, the hole in the treasury reached 3.3 trillion rubles.
As of March 21, the deficit increased to 3.7 trillion rubles, follows from the data of the Electronic Budget system. Having collected 3.352 trillion rubles in taxes, the Ministry of Finance spent 7.035 trillion.
https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/03/23/mishustin-konstatiroval-uvelichenie-diri-v-rossiiskom-byudzhete-a37916


And a few words about politics. Dmitry Medvedev's speech "We will bomb Ukraine until it turns into Russia!" Did you understand the meaning? Russia is=a bombed-out country and a destroyed economy! Some kind of advertisement for a clinic for the treatment of severe forms of alcoholism and personality degradation would be good here