What if bitcointalk creates a casino review and ratings board for members.

[CryptSafe]

Apparently, the request by members for casino review is becoming demanding due to some experience they have had with some casinos coupled with the complaints of account banning, suspension and poor customer care service which is now beginning to eat deep into casinos with claims of account holders defaulting their policies which if properly investigated, the gambler is not guilty of the penalty and actions metted against them. Some cases here onboard this platform have been sorted out with some gamblers being innocent and funds by winning being released to them while some casinos and their representative are no where to be found.
 Of lately, there have been some issues with casinos locking their thread preventing further discussion by members while directing members to their website customer care which is barely active in responding to members.

Nevertheless I was thinking if there could be a thread under the Economy board created separately for casinos review ( all casinos registered here) with star ratings whereby members could also take part in the ratings for casinos and their performance which would make them seat up doing things right. This would make all registered casinos and their various representatives onboard this platform to doing their work diligently in responding to customers and being active here.  However, if a casino fails to doing or resolving issues between a member and them and consecutively, such casino is being reported here and after much deliberation on the scam accusations board or reputation with no fruitful result, hence there is every possibility of blacklisting such casino by high rank DT1 and DT2 members after they have put efforts to resolving the issues but the casino fails to resolve.
With this, I think casinos would start being up and doing accordingly to avoid being blacklisted here because if they should get blacklisted, that means they are not upto standard for operating  here.
With this casino review and ratings board members both old and new would know better casinos to identify with and if any member chooses to identify with a casino after seeing their ratings and review to be very poor, that member would have no option than to face his or her problem by themselves when it dawn on them or if the case is otherwise.

This is an opinion which would welcome more contributions and possibly ways to develop this particular board if considered and deemed fit to hid to.

Thank you

[NeuroticFish]

Nevertheless I was thinking if there could be a thread under the Economy board created separately for casinos review ( all casinos registered here) with star ratings whereby members could also take part in the ratings for casinos and their performance which would make them seat up doing things right.

Casinos are just another type of businesses and they are already treated separately and have a pretty big part of the forum.
As businesses, one place for this could be in "Service Discussion".
As gambling businesses, this could go directly into Gambling. And, interestingly, if such a comparison/reviews topic gets traction, it will pretty much stay on the first page of gambling topics, so it should be OK.
Plus: if a gambling business doesn't act fairly, the Scam accusations (and maybe Reputation too) areas are welcoming the users with complaints.

So, sorry, I don't see why an entire area would be needed for reviews/rating only.
Keep in mind that there are nations present on this forum having only a single topic for themselves. Maybe this gives you a better idea.

[Hispo]

Well, actually I would say that we already have the tools in the forum so people can discuss about specific casinos and experiences on them. so I do not see much of the point on implementing such changes. Besides, does not this star based system require some coding work to adapt the forum software? Or do you mean to use the survey model to vote with stars instead?.

Though, I must say that the blacklisting system sounds interesting, it may go against the censorship policy of the forum. People is allowed to tag alleged scammers, but tags do not mean a ban will get issued.  

[o48o]

We can already give posiive or negative trust to casino announcements and talk under those threads about any issues. That's the way i am checking if the casino i am putting money in is any trustworthy.
I can't see any value building ranking or review system and don't see that serving anything new except maybe possible vote manipulation and vote spamming for money.

[TimeTeller]

We can already give posiive or negative trust to casino announcements and talk under those threads about any issues. That's the way i am checking if the casino i am putting money in is any trustworthy.
I can't see any value building ranking or review system and don't see that serving anything new except maybe possible vote manipulation and vote spamming for money.

That is right. If you are already in the forum, one way is to check the trust summary of their representative in this forum.
You can validate if the feedback is valid or not by checking the reference link of each feedback.
Because some complaints are just to troll a given casino, and you will know if they are just ruining the image of the casino by checking their proofs.
As you said, anyone can just browse their thread and see for themselves what's going on with the site.
There are also few casino/bookie ranking site and reviews that are for me worth to take a look at that you can also find in the gambling section.
As many users are already promoting casinos, it may really be a spam thread if we will create another one specific for this topic.

[serjent05]

I think creating a new thread for reviews and rating is a good idea in terms of convenience.  Even though we already have an announcement thread for each gambling company, it would be great if there is a thread that has the list of the casino dedicated to ratings and reviews.  

But, as good as the idea sound, I think it requires lots of labor for maintenance and updates.  If anyone can do the @OP idea then I think it is great in terms of convenience.

[bitbollo]

there are already such initiatives created directly by users here on forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042070.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2097255.0
and many many more... however there are also some initiatives externally (but linked here with some rappresentative) like GamblingBro or CasinoCritique.
the mission of bitcointalk is not create and review casino / provide ratings of casino

[Accardo]

There are also few casino/bookie ranking site and reviews that are for me worth to take a look at that you can also find in the gambling section.
As many users are already promoting casinos, it may really be a spam thread if we will create another one specific for this topic.

I don't think prominent or well known Casino review sites list all the cryptocurrency casino site on their platform, they mostly share top online gambling sites. The forum is the right place to execute such requests, though the members are doing a great job to trace legitimate casinos, but not every user knows where to lay their complaints. Hence, currently, such reports fit into boards like service discussion, gambling section, meta or reputation section which gets answers from different members in the forum. Some people who give out answers on the reputation section may not be opportune to see a thread on service discussion or other boards, relating to casino review, because they don't visit those boards. I think creating a board can unite every user who wants to contribute on casino reviews to always be active on that board and also mods can then move every thread regarding casino review to the board. It will help provide quality responses from members in the forum, other than creating a thread on economic section which may not get the attention of every member.

[coin-investor]

With this, I think casinos would start being up and doing accordingly to avoid being blacklisted here because if they should get blacklisted, that means they are not upto standard for operating  here.
With this casino review and ratings board members both old and new would know better casinos to identify with and if any member chooses to identify with a casino after seeing their ratings and review to be very poor, that member would have no option than to face his or her problem by themselves when it dawn on them or if the case is otherwise.

This is an opinion which would welcome more contributions and possibly ways to develop this particular board if considered and deemed fit to hid to.

Thank you

This is a good recommendation but I doubt it will be implemented, scams are not moderated here, there are concerns and complaints that are addressed properly by casinos and some complaints that are still pending because casinos prefer not to show their proof to protect the integrity of their platform and this doesn't mean that they deserve a bad rating, and there's also a possibility of manipulation of that rating, some casinos will just hire shills or those who want to get paid to give them a good or bad rating,
And because of the competition, some casinos could hire some members to give casinos good or bad ratings that really do not reflect their reputation.
I'm ok with the current rating of tagging and creating a flag.

[yahoo62278]

There are already tons of threads with reviews on the various casinos that use this forum. A simple search will point you to a minimum of 5 casino review sites. They might point you to a different web page but that's nothing.

I do think that if a casino is going to advertise on this forum or use any portion of the forum, they should have an active representative on this forum and an active topic so that poeple have a way to interact with the casino. Any casino without a thread and rep should be locked.

I 100% disagree with sites who refuse to participate in certain sections of the forum due to whatever reasons. Specifically the scam accusations section. If you have an accusation against your site it is your responsibility to defend your site. If it's a valid accusation fix it, if it's not then disprove it. Trolls are everywhere, get over it.

[serveria.com]

Apparently, the request by members for casino review is becoming demanding due to some experience they have had with some casinos coupled with the complaints of account banning, suspension and poor customer care service which is now beginning to eat deep into casinos with claims of account holders defaulting their policies which if properly investigated, the gambler is not guilty of the penalty and actions metted against them. Some cases here onboard this platform have been sorted out with some gamblers being innocent and funds by winning being released to them while some casinos and their representative are no where to be found.
 Of lately, there have been some issues with casinos locking their thread preventing further discussion by members while directing members to their website customer care which is barely active in responding to members.

Nevertheless I was thinking if there could be a thread under the Economy board created separately for casinos review ( all casinos registered here) with star ratings whereby members could also take part in the ratings for casinos and their performance which would make them seat up doing things right. This would make all registered casinos and their various representatives onboard this platform to doing their work diligently in responding to customers and being active here.  However, if a casino fails to doing or resolving issues between a member and them and consecutively, such casino is being reported here and after much deliberation on the scam accusations board or reputation with no fruitful result, hence there is every possibility of blacklisting such casino by high rank DT1 and DT2 members after they have put efforts to resolving the issues but the casino fails to resolve.
With this, I think casinos would start being up and doing accordingly to avoid being blacklisted here because if they should get blacklisted, that means they are not upto standard for operating  here.
With this casino review and ratings board members both old and new would know better casinos to identify with and if any member chooses to identify with a casino after seeing their ratings and review to be very poor, that member would have no option than to face his or her problem by themselves when it dawn on them or if the case is otherwise.

This is an opinion which would welcome more contributions and possibly ways to develop this particular board if considered and deemed fit to hid to.

Thank you

Great idea, there was a guy here running his casino review website with quite decent reviews, perhaps he's willing to cooperate? No doubt, such a thread would become very popular among local regulars. However, there are also risks like fake/paid reviews? How are you planning to filter those?

[STT]

Seen casino review sites before, more then one & probably there is loads and only a new site would be lacking some kind of review somewhere.  A forum is something different character to just reviews, I had a friend set up a review site decades ago and I wrote something for the site and so did others but dont think it ever took off I reckon because it was not interactive enough.    I used to write movie reviews but I never got enough feedback to make it interesting for me so havent done it for ages.  Reviews normally would be driven by traffic to the sites themselves, referal and advertising I guess; I would have to rate this forum as superior for being more independent.

[dothebeats]

I don't think it has to come directly from the forum. There are a lot of community members in here that have already done the same thing for the past few years and people are constantly adding inputs into it and creating unbiased reviews to make sure that gamblers are equipped with the right knowledge before trying a platform out. Also, I don't think theymos will approve this anymore given that the last board that we have added (Ivory Tower IIRC and some local sub-boards) was from years ago. Just use the search function of this forum and you'll see that there are threads in Gambling Discussion that talks about this exact same thing and there's a lot of them there.

[aioc]

So far it's not getting support because we have already a lot of things in place on describing and reviewing casinos' reputations, we have the scam sections, we can give them bad or good ratings and we can create flags on bad actors in the industry, and so far these things have done what it is intended for.
It's up to players to check reviews from a specific casino's official thread, creating a board will make them lazy to check the status of the casinos and Bitcointalk is a forum about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency, crypto casinos just happen to be an industry in the Cryptocurrency world.

[yahoo62278]

I don't think it has to come directly from the forum.

I doubt Cyrus or theymos would hop on board period as then they might be essentially considered to be vouching for the casinos being reviewed and the forum has the policy of not moderating scams. Just don't think it's anything they'd involve themselves with.

[acroman08]

I don't think a new board is necessary, people can always leave feedbacks(which happens every time a new casino pops up) on the ANN thread that the casino created. if the casino decided to make a questionable or shady action against a gambler there is always the scam accusation board where they can post the issue and their evidence.

regarding the locked thread that you mentioned, were you talking about owl.games? I remember there was another but I forgot what casino the thread belonged to(or it was just owl.games?).

[klidex]

Great idea, there was a guy here running his casino review website with quite decent reviews, perhaps he's willing to cooperate? No doubt, such a thread would become very popular among local regulars. However, there are also risks like fake/paid reviews? How are you planning to filter those?

Actually there are several review sites on crypto casinos and they have been around for a long time even for now review sites like this they have competed to be the most popular review site.
Cadi for what if they have to do casino reviews and leaderboards again if there are already many sites that they do aim to do casino reviews and rankings for members here.
It's better to think of other ideas or things that are more useful for the forum and all the members than to think of things that already exist.

[piebeyb]

i think people in this forum will stay away from casinos locking their threads in this forum, as we know that every casino needs representatives to be active in their forums and threads. actually this is also a good idea but too many threads is also not really necessary because we can also judge in each thread the casino itself and people will judge by themselves.

[ethereumhunter]

There is no need to create another thread containing reviews from every member because every new casino that is launched always gets reviews from almost all members who like to gamble. Members with their experiences contribute to providing suggestions, input and criticism to the casino through their representatives. From there, we can find out whether the casino is worth trying because if the representatives are very active in communicating with us here, they aim to promote the casino through this forum.

And that is more than enough for people who want to find a casino that is good for them and to avoid scams. But unfortunately, people are too lazy to search and just randomly choose a casino without reading reviews from all the members, even though we always recommend finding out about the casino before we play.

[Nrcewker]

I feel like this request is not necessary. I mean already we have a dedicated Gambling section for all the gambling sites. The gambling sites have their own threads here, and it is managed by one of the site’s officials also. So if you want to read any queries or review about the site, you can directly check there and how the site officials responded to the feedback or query can be also seen there. Regarding ratings, usually people rate low, if the site seems to be fishy. You can easily do that in Scam Accusations Board with solid proofs. So as of now, I don’t see any important necessity for the request made by OP.