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May 07, 2023, 08:31:36 PM
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As expected, Canelo will dominate the fight although John Ryder also earn my respect.  He fought toe to toe against Canelo.  I thought the fight were finished when John Ryder goes down on the round 5 but Ryder is able to stand up and survive the fight till the last round.  I can say John Ryder is one tough fighter, despite of the broken nose in the early round, he managed to survive until the end.  I thought that knockdown will be followed by several one but at the end Alvarez can't finish John Ryder via KO so he needs to  rely on the UD.  
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May 08, 2023, 02:55:19 AM
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For me, I don't think that the performance of Canelo is enough to beat Bivol at this point. Bivol is a volume puncher and very accurate, so even if Canelo wanted to be the aggressor, Bivol can counter him all night just like the first fight.

It was not a knock out victory, everyone wanted to see if he can do it, but as you have said, maybe he is affected psychologically with that injured hand of his that's why he can't throw it the way he used to be. So both Benavidez and Bivol might beat the version of Canelo that this show against Ryder, just saying.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. I think Canelo needs 1 more fight to gain confidence with that left hand of his. But first, he should watch his own tape in this Ryder fight because he only used it for the jabs and not for the haymaker hook or uppercut. Consider it if that is enough to fight against Bivol again.
I bet his camp will say the same thing as we think, he ain't ready yet or he won't be if he doesn't overcome the mentality of his left hand being injured again.
Also, Ryder was not using jabs so that's going to be a problem when he faces Bivol because it will be raining with jabs and I am sure Canelo will have a hard time defending it.
I think he put his career on the line to push himself to his limits but it ain't enough, it's not that dominant which was expected by the fans and Ryder was still standing when the 12 rounds were done.

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May 08, 2023, 03:29:37 AM
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As expected, Canelo will dominate the fight although John Ryder also earn my respect.  He fought toe to toe against Canelo.  I thought the fight were finished when John Ryder goes down on the round 5 but Ryder is able to stand up and survive the fight till the last round.  I can say John Ryder is one tough fighter, despite of the broken nose in the early round, he managed to survive until the end.  I thought that knockdown will be followed by several one but at the end Alvarez can't finish John Ryder via KO so he needs to  rely on the UD.  

Everyone gets nothing but a huge respect for Ryder. Even the Mexican fans, the crowd showed a huge respect for him. Everyone knows that Canelo will have a higher chance to win prior to the fight night, but he was not able to fulfill his promise to his home crowd because Ryder is one tough fighter. Everyone really thought the match was about to end after the huge knock down in the 5th round, but Ryder was too smart to take time to recover as he was also checking on his corner. A handful of times Ryder got rocked by Canelo's right hand, but was able to fight back like it didn't hurt him. Well, it takes a lot of heart and courage to fight with a broken nose and a tough opponent.
I'm pretty sure Canelo must have shook his head at Ryder's toughness and willingness to finish the 12 round after those punishing powerful punches lol.

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May 08, 2023, 06:42:56 AM
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Yeap, imho Ryder showed more heart in this fight than Canelo. We saw usual Canelo, everything was expected from him. Ryder did a really great fight. A lot of people did not trust in him, he was a huge underdog and many predicted early stoppage. However the fight went full distance. Even despite huge dominance on score cards, I liked how Ryder showed himself in that fight. Ryder even managed to take few rounds.

I just wander what Canelo is going to do next. Another victory among middleweights. Another predicted victory. Are there any fighters left who havent lost to Canelo? I see only one way for Canelo - to try again to fight in light heavyweight.

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May 08, 2023, 06:52:04 AM
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Yeap, imho Ryder showed more heart in this fight than Canelo. We saw usual Canelo, everything was expected from him. Ryder did a really great fight. A lot of people did not trust in him, he was a huge underdog and many predicted early stoppage. However the fight went full distance. Even despite huge dominance on score cards, I liked how Ryder showed himself in that fight. Ryder even managed to take few rounds.

I just wander what Canelo is going to do next. Another victory among middleweights. Another predicted victory. Are there any fighters left who havent lost to Canelo? I see only one way for Canelo - to try again to fight in light heavyweight.

I expected a knockout win for Canelo to somehow impress his fans after his loss to Bivol but that didn't happen because like you said, Ryder showed up into the fight prepared for whatever Canelo brings into the table but just wasn't enough to get that win as we all know that in order for Ryder to win he must dominate or KO the Mexican.

For me, Canelo should fight Benavidez first and if he wins, he can do a rematch with Bivol and enough with those tune-up fights that everyone knows whose gonna win.

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May 08, 2023, 08:18:42 AM
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Yeap, imho Ryder showed more heart in this fight than Canelo. We saw usual Canelo, everything was expected from him. Ryder did a really great fight. A lot of people did not trust in him, he was a huge underdog and many predicted early stoppage. However the fight went full distance. Even despite huge dominance on score cards, I liked how Ryder showed himself in that fight. Ryder even managed to take few rounds.

I just wander what Canelo is going to do next. Another victory among middleweights. Another predicted victory. Are there any fighters left who havent lost to Canelo? I see only one way for Canelo - to try again to fight in light heavyweight.

I expected a knockout win for Canelo to somehow impress his fans after his loss to Bivol but that didn't happen because like you said, Ryder showed up into the fight prepared for whatever Canelo brings into the table but just wasn't enough to get that win as we all know that in order for Ryder to win he must dominate or KO the Mexican.

For me, Canelo should fight Benavidez first and if he wins, he can do a rematch with Bivol and enough with those tune-up fights that everyone knows whose gonna win.

Ryder said that he broke his noise during this fight, first time that it did happen to him, but he was really a tough mofo, and just decided not to get knockout. If that is other boxers, they could have taken a dive and Canelo winning and fans very happy with that result. But not Ryder, shows resiliency and make the fight very competitive at least in his part.

I do agree that it's better to g for Benavidez to defend his belt again. One thing that Ryder said though that Canelo is starting to decline at this point. And this is what the majority saw in this fight. So it's going to be interesting if he chooses David next as Benavidez is younger.
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May 08, 2023, 04:42:18 PM
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As expected, Canelo will dominate the fight although John Ryder also earn my respect.  He fought toe to toe against Canelo.  I thought the fight were finished when John Ryder goes down on the round 5 but Ryder is able to stand up and survive the fight till the last round.  I can say John Ryder is one tough fighter, despite of the broken nose in the early round, he managed to survive until the end.  I thought that knockdown will be followed by several one but at the end Alvarez can't finish John Ryder via KO so he needs to  rely on the UD.  

It's obvious that he gonna win the fight after that knockout and also clearly in the rounds Canelo dominates the fight, he was fast and threw heavy punches that made Ryder act like anyone who was in a confused state when facing a stronger and more high-level opponent. Canelo fulfilled his promise to give his countrymen the fight they really wanted to watch and I think Guadalajara, Mexico people will not gonna ask for more since their man has won and maybe his next fight will gonna be in the US again where real contender can't wait to fight him.

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May 08, 2023, 08:24:14 PM
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Yeap, imho Ryder showed more heart in this fight than Canelo. We saw usual Canelo, everything was expected from him. Ryder did a really great fight. A lot of people did not trust in him, he was a huge underdog and many predicted early stoppage. However the fight went full distance. Even despite huge dominance on score cards, I liked how Ryder showed himself in that fight. Ryder even managed to take few rounds.

I just wander what Canelo is going to do next. Another victory among middleweights. Another predicted victory. Are there any fighters left who havent lost to Canelo? I see only one way for Canelo - to try again to fight in light heavyweight.

I expected a knockout win for Canelo to somehow impress his fans after his loss to Bivol but that didn't happen because like you said, Ryder showed up into the fight prepared for whatever Canelo brings into the table but just wasn't enough to get that win as we all know that in order for Ryder to win he must dominate or KO the Mexican.

For me, Canelo should fight Benavidez first and if he wins, he can do a rematch with Bivol and enough with those tune-up fights that everyone knows whose gonna win.

Ryder said that he broke his noise during this fight, first time that it did happen to him, but he was really a tough mofo, and just decided not to get knockout. If that is other boxers, they could have taken a dive and Canelo winning and fans very happy with that result. But not Ryder, shows resiliency and make the fight very competitive at least in his part.

I do agree that it's better to g for Benavidez to defend his belt again. One thing that Ryder said though that Canelo is starting to decline at this point. And this is what the majority saw in this fight. So it's going to be interesting if he chooses David next as Benavidez is younger.

Yes, it's evident enough that John Ryder was strong enough to endure Canelo's punches but he still got knocked down somewhere in Round 5 and I reckon that if only Ryder packed a strong punch, he could've give Canelo some harder time rather than waiting until the fight ends. And I do agree with John Ryder, Canelo seems declining and we can see it because that's not how he usually perform in some fights.

Given that comment, it's much safer for Canelo to face Benavidez rather than visiting Dmitry Bivol again in his own division where a loss is almost inevitable in Canelo's side. Safer because at least with Benavidez, he got more chances but the kid pack quite a strong punch which also gives some risks to Canelo.

Looking forward for Canelo to fight either Bivol or Benavidez before this year ends.

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May 08, 2023, 08:46:40 PM
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Yes, it's evident enough that John Ryder was strong enough to endure Canelo's punches but he still got knocked down somewhere in Round 5 and I reckon that if only Ryder packed a strong punch, he could've give Canelo some harder time rather than waiting until the fight ends. And I do agree with John Ryder, Canelo seems declining and we can see it because that's not how he usually perform in some fights.

Given that comment, it's much safer for Canelo to face Benavidez rather than visiting Dmitry Bivol again in his own division where a loss is almost inevitable in Canelo's side. Safer because at least with Benavidez, he got more chances but the kid pack quite a strong punch which also gives some risks to Canelo.

Looking forward for Canelo to fight either Bivol or Benavidez before this year ends.

I don't think so, Benavidez is a dangerous fight also, just look at Benavidez's fight against Plant he goes there to punish Plant even though Benavidez wins by unanimous decision compared to Canelo knocking him out he puts a superb and superior performance, Canelo will also be in trouble fighting a guy who just comes forward to dish out everything, but there are already reports of Bivol and Canelo willingness to fight either from Bivol's weight category or Canelo's weight category, so so many things to watch out for Canelo's next fight.

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