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March 29, 2023, 11:12:41 AM
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There is no rule that KYC can be only done at the time of withdrawal (please share with me the part in our terms where you got that information from). You can do it whenever you want. This has been answered here already:
However, we try to cover both needs. So when a player prefers to do the KYC earlier, he/she can do it right after the registration.
For the other players, it is fine when they just do the KYC when they know it's needed.

I understand your point here you explained to other users. I also understand your concern about forcing players to submit KYC when they make a deposit. People may not deposit if they see this platform asking them to submit KYC. But, believe or not. People don't care about what was written on TOS, and they sign up without reading the TOS. It's not the casino's fault. But people do it. If the Casino Triggers for KYC once a user makes a withdrawal request and the player does not know he has to submit the KYC (because he did not read the TOS), he will blame the casino.

I know it's not your fault. But, you can avoid such cases by giving a warning to players when they make a deposit. If you don't want to force them to submit KYC when they deposit, At least you can give a Pop up Warning that they Have to Submit KYC before they withdraw their Winnings. This is Bitcointalk forum and people here hate KYC.

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March 29, 2023, 01:31:05 PM
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I understand your point here you explained to other users. I also understand your concern about forcing players to submit KYC when they make a deposit. People may not deposit if they see this platform asking them to submit KYC. But, believe or not. People don't care about what was written on TOS, and they sign up without reading the TOS. It's not the casino's fault. But people do it. If the Casino Triggers for KYC once a user makes a withdrawal request and the player does not know he has to submit the KYC (because he did not read the TOS), he will blame the casino.

I know it's not your fault. But, you can avoid such cases by giving a warning to players when they make a deposit. If you don't want to force them to submit KYC when they deposit, At least you can give a Pop up Warning that they Have to Submit KYC before they withdraw their Winnings. This is Bitcointalk forum and people here hate KYC.
What's your point then? if I'm not mistaken many users are prefer with a casino which ask KYC before make a deposit because it's too avoid getting asked to provide KYC when they want to withdraw their winnings.

But now you're asking them to ask KYC only for suspicious activity or during withdrawal?

KYC or not KYC it depends on the gambler, when someone don't want to play in KYC casino, they can avoid it and choose the other alternative.

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March 29, 2023, 01:40:59 PM
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I understand your point here you explained to other users. I also understand your concern about forcing players to submit KYC when they make a deposit. People may not deposit if they see this platform asking them to submit KYC. But, believe or not. People don't care about what was written on TOS, and they sign up without reading the TOS. It's not the casino's fault. But people do it. If the Casino Triggers for KYC once a user makes a withdrawal request and the player does not know he has to submit the KYC (because he did not read the TOS), he will blame the casino.

I know it's not your fault. But, you can avoid such cases by giving a warning to players when they make a deposit. If you don't want to force them to submit KYC when they deposit, At least you can give a Pop up Warning that they Have to Submit KYC before they withdraw their Winnings. This is Bitcointalk forum and people here hate KYC.
What's your point then? if I'm not mistaken many users are prefer with a casino which ask KYC before make a deposit because it's too avoid getting asked to provide KYC when they want to withdraw their winnings.

But now you're asking them to ask KYC only for suspicious activity or during withdrawal?

KYC or not KYC it depends on the gambler, when someone don't want to play in KYC casino, they can avoid it and choose the other alternative.
Topics like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446677.msg61994526#msg61994526 are the reasons why I most times get discouraged in anything about KYC. I have no doubt about peoples identity being stolen and traded without their consent. There have been series of identity breach and leakage from third parties which most times they are aware but will come publicly to deny it and claim it to be hack from hackers to stealing members identity. It's better casinos stop asking for kyc and beef up their security systems against hack so as to protect their members identity from being stolen from their data base.

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March 29, 2023, 03:44:07 PM
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What's your point then? if I'm not mistaken many users are prefer with a casino which ask KYC before make a deposit because it's too avoid getting asked to provide KYC when they want to withdraw their winnings.

But now you're asking them to ask KYC only for suspicious activity or during withdrawal?

I guess you didn't get my point. I did not ask them to ask for KYC only for suspicious activity or during the withdrawal. It's better if they ask for KYC before a user makes a deposit. But, if it's hard for the casinos, they may at least warn users about KYC requirements when they make a deposit. In this way, People will know they have to submit a KYC before withdrawing their funds.

I believe users never want to submit KYC until the system forces them to do it. Crypto Casinos are supposed to be anonymous and it users as well. But, KYC ruined the purpose of Crypto Gambling.

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March 29, 2023, 04:52:03 PM
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What's your point then? if I'm not mistaken many users are prefer with a casino which ask KYC before make a deposit because it's too avoid getting asked to provide KYC when they want to withdraw their winnings.

But now you're asking them to ask KYC only for suspicious activity or during withdrawal?

I guess you didn't get my point. I did not ask them to ask for KYC only for suspicious activity or during the withdrawal. It's better if they ask for KYC before a user makes a deposit. But, if it's hard for the casinos, they may at least warn users about KYC requirements when they make a deposit. In this way, People will know they have to submit a KYC before withdrawing their funds.

I believe users never want to submit KYC until the system forces them to do it. Crypto Casinos are supposed to be anonymous and it users as well. But, KYC ruined the purpose of Crypto Gambling.

Actually, most reputable casinos nowadays require KYC and gamblers are now used to it. It's better to comply with the requirements that to risk with other casinos with no good reputation. I agree that they should be asking KYC right from the beginning that asking it in the midst of the withdrawal process which will cause hassle to gamblers. It is better to inform their users about their KYC conditions so gamblers would know what to expect.
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March 29, 2023, 04:54:06 PM
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You have to submit level 1 KYC details before making your first deposit in RoyalStars Casino. So, it is clear that they will ask for further verification (identity documents) in the future.

Anonymous gambling is a myth now. KYC verification has become a common thing for the regulation of Crypto casino license. In most of the cases, KYC is required to prevent the abusers and money laundering. There are only few casinos left where KYC isn't required. Check this thread if you want to know more about the KYC verification of crypto casinos: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements

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March 29, 2023, 06:00:12 PM
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This could be the biggest turn off about the site since it is not just a KYC but collection of some documents. You know this has been the problem of other site since they are asking for KYC during the withdrawal which is not good especially if you are not aware of it in the first place, this could lead to a confusion and accusation against the site.
Why would it be a turn-off about the site? About 97% of all crypto gambling sites now integrated KYC and it is all because they cannot provide service outside the rules and regulations created by their Master License holder. Casinos cant ignore the rules they ought to follow just to satisfy my needs and yours. This is a new casino trying out the forum but most of all the message seen here is about guys making things hard for them.
The more we try to understand how crypto gambling provides their services the more we understand the reason for their action.

you are not understanding the seriousness of things, there is a big difference between:

1 - casino that asks for KYC in case they detect suspicious activity on the account

2 - casino that requires KYC

the difference in these two casinos is in the following:

1 - in the casino they ask for KYC in case of any suspicious activity, the customer has no problem making a deposit and playing and withdrawing, as long as he does not do any suspicious activity he has no problem using the casino

2 - in the case that everyone is obliged to do KYC, it makes no sense to let people create an account, play and only when they withdraw their money will the casino retain the money them because they need to go through KYC. for example: you have 1000$, you create account in this casino, you play and lose all 1000$, you will not be asked for KYC, you played and lost everything and the casino made profit of 1000$ and they didn't care about KYC because the money went into the their casino and stayed there because you lost everything. next day you take 1000$ and you go to play in this casino, you win and you keep 1500$ and you decide to withdraw, then they ask you for KYC you spend a long time fighting with KYC.

the point is that when you lose everything they don't care about KYC, when you want to withdraw they care about KYC. since KYC is mandatory on their website, so why do they let people deposit and play without KYC? they should ask for KYC as soon as people create an account and only after they go through KYC and people can deposit
You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.

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March 30, 2023, 10:21:35 AM
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What's your point then? if I'm not mistaken many users are prefer with a casino which ask KYC before make a deposit because it's too avoid getting asked to provide KYC when they want to withdraw their winnings.

But now you're asking them to ask KYC only for suspicious activity or during withdrawal?
I guess you didn't get my point. I did not ask them to ask for KYC only for suspicious activity or during the withdrawal. It's better if they ask for KYC before a user makes a deposit. But, if it's hard for the casinos, they may at least warn users about KYC requirements when they make a deposit. In this way, People will know they have to submit a KYC before withdrawing their funds.

I believe users never want to submit KYC until the system forces them to do it. Crypto Casinos are supposed to be anonymous and it users as well. But, KYC ruined the purpose of Crypto Gambling.
i don't know why many gamblers are so lazy to read your terms and conditions even though if they read it before making a deposit, they won't regret it when making a withdrawal especially if you are someone who doesn't like KYC.  here i understand what you mean, you recommend that this site can notify potential customers that this is a gambling site that requires KYC when withdrawing, but I doubt they will provide such notification because there will be many users who are afraid even though KYC is level 1.
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April 13, 2023, 03:09:25 AM
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This could be the biggest turn off about the site since it is not just a KYC but collection of some documents. You know this has been the problem of other site since they are asking for KYC during the withdrawal which is not good especially if you are not aware of it in the first place, this could lead to a confusion and accusation against the site.
Why would it be a turn-off about the site? About 97% of all crypto gambling sites now integrated KYC and it is all because they cannot provide service outside the rules and regulations created by their Master License holder. Casinos cant ignore the rules they ought to follow just to satisfy my needs and yours. This is a new casino trying out the forum but most of all the message seen here is about guys making things hard for them.
The more we try to understand how crypto gambling provides their services the more we understand the reason for their action.

you are not understanding the seriousness of things, there is a big difference between:

1 - casino that asks for KYC in case they detect suspicious activity on the account

2 - casino that requires KYC

the difference in these two casinos is in the following:

1 - in the casino they ask for KYC in case of any suspicious activity, the customer has no problem making a deposit and playing and withdrawing, as long as he does not do any suspicious activity he has no problem using the casino

2 - in the case that everyone is obliged to do KYC, it makes no sense to let people create an account, play and only when they withdraw their money will the casino retain the money them because they need to go through KYC. for example: you have 1000$, you create account in this casino, you play and lose all 1000$, you will not be asked for KYC, you played and lost everything and the casino made profit of 1000$ and they didn't care about KYC because the money went into the their casino and stayed there because you lost everything. next day you take 1000$ and you go to play in this casino, you win and you keep 1500$ and you decide to withdraw, then they ask you for KYC you spend a long time fighting with KYC.

the point is that when you lose everything they don't care about KYC, when you want to withdraw they care about KYC. since KYC is mandatory on their website, so why do they let people deposit and play without KYC? they should ask for KYC as soon as people create an account and only after they go through KYC and people can deposit
You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.

Well, those things are what one should always know, I don't know if that appears in the T&C, but of course it's annoying because they should say that they do require it, because for many users seo is usually a great nuisance, but if the kyc is sent and they do not approve it quickly or if, on the contrary, they tell them to send the documents again and to be more demanding, with more requirements, that has happened to me and that bothers me, but in any case, if you have already made a profit, then there is no other option than to send them Because it's obvious that when things are in our favor and with money, it's time.

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April 13, 2023, 03:28:47 AM
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You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.
This kind of thing happens very often and is always a complaint from most gamblers.
Actually, we can read the existing Tos and see if they are really non KYC or not, besides that we can also ask their support whether KYC really isn't enforced at all even though we will get a big win later.
We have to be gamblers who are a little smarter where we find out everything before using the casino so that we don't experience any problems in the future.
If you say it's fair or not, it will be difficult to say for sure because this is their rule, so we ourselves have to be one step ahead.

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April 13, 2023, 08:52:37 AM
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You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.
It's only natural that when you want to bet at a certain casino when you want to withdraw funds you are asked to do KYC but it should be better not to need KYC when only withdrawing small amounts and there are KYC limits when you want to withdraw a certain amount.
by the way is the spin bonus given because you made the first deposit or is the spin bonus from the game itself?
Maybe I missed some information.

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Welcome RoyalStarsCasino, it's so sad that I can't access your gambling site as my country is not allowed. Since I don't see your website to read your terms and condition, I wanted to ask if I can use a VPN to bypass the restriction and play with your gambling site without any problem? or in the long run you will ask me a KYC? I really want to play in your gambling site or at least test it.

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April 13, 2023, 07:37:15 PM
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You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.
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Well, those things are what one should always know, I don't know if that appears in the T&C, but of course it's annoying because they should say that they do require it, because for many users seo is usually a great nuisance, but if the kyc is sent and they do not approve it quickly or if, on the contrary, they tell them to send the documents again and to be more demanding, with more requirements, that has happened to me and that bothers me, but in any case, if you have already made a profit, then there is no other option than to send them Because it's obvious that when things are in our favor and with money, it's time.
If the casino didn't keep the new users informed about their KYC policy it is not fair but in the situation where the new user is asked to go through a slight information request before the first deposit and the KYC policy stated that "The process we have in place to verify a player’s account involves three elements of verification; ID verification, proof of address & proof of payment. The player has to provide documents in 48h after requesting the payout, and the merchant will review them in 48 hours. "
I believe it is fair enough to know that there's a chance for KYC requests that have to do with the private document when making a first withdrawal.


You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.
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by the way is the spin bonus given because you made the first deposit or is the spin bonus from the game itself?
Maybe I missed some information.[/left]
The spin bonus was given to me by the casino itself on another slot game after I spent some mins in the casino and I also won some spin bonus through the game itself.

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April 14, 2023, 07:06:50 AM
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You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.
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Well, those things are what one should always know, I don't know if that appears in the T&C, but of course it's annoying because they should say that they do require it, because for many users seo is usually a great nuisance, but if the kyc is sent and they do not approve it quickly or if, on the contrary, they tell them to send the documents again and to be more demanding, with more requirements, that has happened to me and that bothers me, but in any case, if you have already made a profit, then there is no other option than to send them Because it's obvious that when things are in our favor and with money, it's time.
If the casino didn't keep the new users informed about their KYC policy it is not fair but in the situation where the new user is asked to go through a slight information request before the first deposit and the KYC policy stated that "The process we have in place to verify a player’s account involves three elements of verification; ID verification, proof of address & proof of payment. The player has to provide documents in 48h after requesting the payout, and the merchant will review them in 48 hours. "
I believe it is fair enough to know that there's a chance for KYC requests that have to do with the private document when making a first withdrawal.
Totally on board with your KYC policy ideas, buddy! It's a fact, casinos gotta be crystal clear about their verification game and document demands. Nobody wants surprises, especially with private intel and money matters.

But hey, when the KYC rules are out in the open, it's A-OK for casinos to ask for the goods when a player cashes out. Like they say, "knowledge is power" – get the scoop, and you're ready to roll.

Think of it like an adventure – if you know you need a passport and visa to get into some country, you'll have your papers in tip-top shape before hitting the road. Same deal with KYC stuff. If a player's clued in about the doc requirements for getting their dough, they'll be locked and loaded.

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April 14, 2023, 04:10:07 PM
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You have a point. Casino not asking for KYC when the user deposit but choosing to require KYC after the player want to withdraw her winning is not fair. However, have any of you guys tried to register on the casino because I did to check if everything said is true, and from what i see the casino asks for the information when a new user wants to make her first deposit which is still fair from my end. Besides, the information didn't contains anything that have to do with documents or ID, and after spending some minutes at the casino was even given 20 free rounds.
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Well, those things are what one should always know, I don't know if that appears in the T&C, but of course it's annoying because they should say that they do require it, because for many users seo is usually a great nuisance, but if the kyc is sent and they do not approve it quickly or if, on the contrary, they tell them to send the documents again and to be more demanding, with more requirements, that has happened to me and that bothers me, but in any case, if you have already made a profit, then there is no other option than to send them Because it's obvious that when things are in our favor and with money, it's time.
If the casino didn't keep the new users informed about their KYC policy it is not fair but in the situation where the new user is asked to go through a slight information request before the first deposit and the KYC policy stated that "The process we have in place to verify a player’s account involves three elements of verification; ID verification, proof of address & proof of payment. The player has to provide documents in 48h after requesting the payout, and the merchant will review them in 48 hours. "
I believe it is fair enough to know that there's a chance for KYC requests that have to do with the private document when making a first withdrawal.
Totally on board with your KYC policy ideas, buddy! It's a fact, casinos gotta be crystal clear about their verification game and document demands. Nobody wants surprises, especially with private intel and money matters.

But hey, when the KYC rules are out in the open, it's A-OK for casinos to ask for the goods when a player cashes out. Like they say, "knowledge is power" – get the scoop, and you're ready to roll.

Think of it like an adventure – if you know you need a passport and visa to get into some country, you'll have your papers in tip-top shape before hitting the road. Same deal with KYC stuff. If a player's clued in about the doc requirements for getting their dough, they'll be locked and loaded.

It's not so simple for someone to hand over documents in a new casino, without reputation, and it also doesn't make sense to keep asking for KYC after the deposit for people who play with cryptocurrencies, their KYC doesn't even have levels, they as soon as the person wants to make a withdrawal they ask: proof of payment. see the nonsensical part of it all:

- Person X deposits 1000$ in that casino, plays and loses everything, as he lost everything in the casino, so he will not be asked for KYC, that is, the casino will not ask him for proof of payment.

- Person Z deposits 100$ and plays at the casino and manages to win and keeps 200$ and decides to withdraw the 200$, but they will ask him for KYC, that is, they will ask him for proof of payment of the 100$ he deposited, they will ask him ID verification, proof of address

I ask you the following: if KYC is very important for the casino then why didn't they ask for KYC from person X who made a deposit of 1000$ and lost everything at the casino? why doesn't the casino just ask for basic KYC and then when they detect suspicious activity they could ask for high level KYC like ID verification, proof of address? Wouldn't it be more practical and fair for them to do that? but they prefer the path that will allow them to get the most profit possible from their customers.

when people encounter casinos with these behaviors, they tend not to use those casinos and will continue to use the old and trusted casinos that are more moderate and fair in KYC

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April 14, 2023, 07:11:46 PM
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It's not so simple for someone to hand over documents in a new casino, without reputation, and it also doesn't make sense to keep asking for KYC after the deposit for people who play with cryptocurrencies, their KYC doesn't even have levels, they as soon as the person wants to make a withdrawal they ask: proof of payment. see the nonsensical part of it all:
Yes, it is not easy to hand over private documents to a new casino that's yet to have a reputation.
Have you tried the casino in the subject because they only ask me for tier 1 information that's before I make a single deposit and they never keep asking for KYC to own knowledge but I am sure they will request a private document if it is the first time for a user request for a withdrawal and everything is already stated in their KYC  policy I once pointed out.

why doesn't the casino just ask for basic KYC and then when they detect suspicious activity they could ask for high level KYC like ID verification, proof of address?
Yes, it will be fair. Meanwhile, the basic KYC is what they requested from me before I make any deposit.

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April 14, 2023, 07:52:57 PM
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It's not so simple for someone to hand over documents in a new casino, without reputation, and it also doesn't make sense to keep asking for KYC after the deposit for people who play with cryptocurrencies, their KYC doesn't even have levels, they as soon as the person wants to make a withdrawal they ask: proof of payment. see the nonsensical part of it all:
Yes, it is not easy to hand over private documents to a new casino that's yet to have a reputation.
Have you tried the casino in the subject because they only ask me for tier 1 information that's before I make a single deposit and they never keep asking for KYC to own knowledge but I am sure they will request a private document if it is the first time for a user request for a withdrawal and everything is already stated in their KYC  policy I once pointed out.

it's all the trust we have in the casino in submitting KYC. Tier 1 information is important because there are casono who are strict on every inch of this information that will really make it hard for you if the tier 1 information they ask didn't matched up with the KYC you had submitted before withdrawal this is why I think that we can't really put non sense infomation like a fake name on this basic information.

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I wanted to ask if I can use a VPN to bypass the restriction and play with your gambling site without any problem? or in the long run you will ask me a KYC? I really want to play in your gambling site or at least test it.
Why would you want to do that? If your country is restricted then you should not use a VPN to circumvent the restriction, even if the use of VPNs is allowed.
They will ask you to verify your identity when you will make a withdrawal request. So, if they find out you are from a restricted country, they will ban your account and seize your money. Better be safe and look for another casino where your country is not restricted.

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I guess, I am late in welcoming you to the forum OP.  The ANN thread look professional, the color scheme could have improved, but still good and soothes the eyes. Moreover a license also proves that you are serious in this industry and will respect each and every gambler of your site. Also i see you have multiple deposit options in your site, this can definitely fetch you lot of potential gamblers. At last we are waiting for some awesome bonuses or contests that can keep us busy to visit the site. Will leave a detailed review soon, as soon as I test the games. Good luck OP.

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April 15, 2023, 03:42:38 AM
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why doesn't the casino just ask for basic KYC and then when they detect suspicious activity they could ask for high level KYC like ID verification, proof of address?
Yes, it will be fair. Meanwhile, the basic KYC is what they requested from me before I make any deposit.
Yes, basic verification is a verification that is given before making a deposit and this verification usually only contains details of the name and details of the country of residence.
In the casino that I use, everyone asks for this verification the first time they make a deposit and we don't need to worry because basic verification doesn't really ask for anonymous personal identification details.
When the casino can give us a high sense of comfort and confidence, completing verification and giving KYC is not a bad thing as long as we gamble with the true aim of having fun and not causing trouble.

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