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March 30, 2023, 06:06:51 PM
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Every new technology is risky on its own level. This is the beginning of the development of artificial intelligence technology, which can be used for useful things but it is difficult to prevent abuse.

The most important thing is how to minimize the negative risks that might be caused by this AI, while I'm not too worried because this will continue to be developed in a better direction. I think AI has helped a lot of people do something useful so far, but somehow it's hard to prevent someone from abusing this technology.

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March 30, 2023, 07:44:04 PM
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I still can't believe that AI would be considered such a big deal when in fact the other side is getting more work as well. Meaning, when AI is getting bigger, things that realizes what is AI and what is not is also getting more attention as well.

Just to give two examples, one is the fact that if students wants to write their school homework with an AI, then there are websites that uses detection programs to detect if an AI wrote it or not (not really that hard to figure out) and secondly, if a video is made by an AI, then there are detection software that also figures that one out as well. All in all I would guess that there is no need for any of this at all.

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March 31, 2023, 08:51:10 AM
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Just to give two examples, one is the fact that if students wants to write their school homework with an AI, then there are websites that uses detection programs to detect if an AI wrote it or not (not really that hard to figure out) and secondly, if a video is made by an AI, then there are detection software that also figures that one out as well. All in all I would guess that there is no need for any of this at all.

Pretty confident message. Show an example of such sites, the results of which could be relied upon, proving that the text was written by AI. Let's not go far; already today on the forum, a lot of people use AI tools to write posts. Have you seen a clear conclusion that moderators can confidently say and accuse a person of using AI?
Therefore, I think it's too early to say that AI behavior is easily detected. If you look at how many of the greatest minds are screaming that the development of AI needs to be suspended, then we can conclude that AI is becoming really dangerous for humanity.

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March 31, 2023, 09:33:16 AM
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Just to give two examples, one is the fact that if students wants to write their school homework with an AI, then there are websites that uses detection programs to detect if an AI wrote it or not (not really that hard to figure out) and secondly, if a video is made by an AI, then there are detection software that also figures that one out as well. All in all I would guess that there is no need for any of this at all.

Pretty confident message. Show an example of such sites, the results of which could be relied upon, proving that the text was written by AI. Let's not go far; already today on the forum, a lot of people use AI tools to write posts. Have you seen a clear conclusion that moderators can confidently say and accuse a person of using AI?
Therefore, I think it's too early to say that AI behavior is easily detected. If you look at how many of the greatest minds are screaming that the development of AI needs to be suspended, then we can conclude that AI is becoming really dangerous for humanity.
Elon is worried about the dangers AI can give given that right it is still considered an infant and there still so many rooms to grow. One of the reasons why there is no copyright when someone is using even chatGPT is that the AI is the ones constructing narratives collected by various sources. In short, it isn't a summary but in fact it was their own understanding on what they understood from the gathered data. If given time to collect more information or data, who knows what dangers might befall us humans?

There's also the possibility that any other country who has enough influence could make use of this technology as a weapon. As time goes by, the more AI becoming more and more mature enough.

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March 31, 2023, 12:08:04 PM
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We are in a new era where technology might be fully exploited, but caution is advised. Before now, I'd iterated a lot of problems it could cause in the process of trying to solve some. This is not new to me and many more issues will still arise, not only with AI but also with the development of robots. The issues have not started rising, they could be severe and detrimental over time and would affect almost all aspects of life including jobs, way of living and many more.

There is a need for its regulation, but should still be well-researched to see if they are indeed dangerous and could be regulated or not.

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March 31, 2023, 12:31:09 PM
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Well some people try to use the amazing capabilities of technology for their bad behavior and then blame technology. I find this funny, the issue of ethical use is mentioned a lot in every tool in life, but it seems easy for us to ignore it and just see it as a tool to satisfy our needs. limited thing we know.
I see great potential and applications in work from AI, and why not bring such news and keep it in your mind, but bring negative things that are man-made go out.
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March 31, 2023, 02:24:01 PM
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Regardless of what a multibillionaire egomaniac like Elon Musk says, I do not think it is even possible to stop AI development at this point. Also, I have lost all faith in Musk and his pump and dump manipulation schemes ever since he sold Tesla's Bitcoin with his ridiculous excuses. Why would anyone, especially the people from the cryptocurrency community want to trust in his words anymore?

I think that AI development is scarier in its public image than it actually is in reality.

It probably stems from the fact that many people do not understand it and think that AI is some kind of living being which is slowly becoming more superior to humans. Which is both not even close to true.

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March 31, 2023, 06:22:13 PM
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I think that AI development is scarier in its public image than it actually is in reality.

It probably stems from the fact that many people do not understand it and think that AI is some kind of living being which is slowly becoming more superior to humans. Which is both not even close to true.
If we keep thinking like this, then we will come to our senses only when some Skynet begins to dominate people and discuss whether it is worth destroying such imperfect creatures as people. But then it will be too late. Even now, primitive robots quite seriously declare that man is imperfect and therefore subject to destruction. Should the future of mankind be so risked? In any case, it will be much more reasonable to weigh everything once again and take measures to eliminate any threats from the AI.

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March 31, 2023, 09:44:02 PM
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ChatGPT doesn't own any Bitcoin and I believe one think KYC is fighting is the use of AI.
I saw the recent pictures of the pope on a friend's Whatsapp status and they really look so real to be doubted and I never thought it wasn't real.
I also read news of Elon musk proposing the pause of AI until it has proven to not have a negative effect on the society and I was surprised this very proposal was Coming from Elon since he has been one of the major contributors to the creation of AI(That's if I'm not wrong and I also stand corrected).

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March 31, 2023, 09:54:46 PM
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Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.
People who really understand about AI and also its good and bad effects will probably understand more. Unless it only concerns certain interests, it is possible that various issues related to AI will be disseminated. It is possible that AI will have a bad impact on humans in the future, this kind of fear makes sense. however, actually, how much influence is still uncertain. However, this does not rule out the possibility that this will have a huge impact on real life, especially in the field of work that can be done by AI later, so it will be like replacing humans, especially with features that will certainly develop more agile, smart, and also leading.

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
Could be, who knows? It's like guesswork. Maybe people behind, but not directly. hemmmm I am curious too. can it be real  Cheesy Cheesy

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Yes, I share the fears of Musk and the others, but the whole question is how realistically they can stop the development of artificial intelligence. After all, there is no legal framework, no established penalties. So far it all looks like an act of hypocrisy, nothing more.
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Yes, I share the fears of Musk and the others, but the whole question is how realistically they can stop the development of artificial intelligence. After all, there is no legal framework, no established penalties. So far it all looks like an act of hypocrisy, nothing more.
Precisely because there is currently no legal framework to regulate and eliminate the risks that can come from rapidly evolving AI systems, a leading group of artificial intelligence (AI) experts and representatives of the IT industry, including Elon Musk, Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak and more than 1,100 people signed an open letter about the risks of such technologies for society and called for at least six months to suspend the training of neural networks superior to GPT-4.

It is noted that AI Labs and independent experts should use this pause to jointly develop and implement a set of common security protocols for advanced AI design and development, carefully reviewed and monitored by independent third-party experts. And if this cannot be stopped quickly, then the authorities "should intervene and impose a moratorium."

Such actions are really necessary, as there is a real threat to the existence of humanity from the rapidly developing AI.

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Seems like nonsense as a warning this is not new, gpt is just automation of some kind and all those things were already possible.   Fake photos are not new, its the iterative process and ease of access which could be labelled as new.  Its easier to make combination or imagined photos even for people with no particular skill in that area, ditto many other processes long possible these can be implemented in this automated way.
   Its a good thing overall, not really a risk or danger imo anymore then it was prior when the same tools existed but more obstructed and slower to use.

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And it just got banned in Italy.
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Italy has joined some not so popular countries that have already banned ChatGPT ->

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ChatGPT is already blocked in a number of countries, including China, Iran, North Korea and Russia.

But at the same time, the Google version of the chat bot is still available, because it seems that the only problem is that GPT is available to everyone regardless of age.

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Bard, Google's rival artificial-intelligence chatbot, is now available, but only to specific users over the age of 18 - because of those same concerns.

However, somehow it seems to me that the ban is only temporary, because the Italian data protection agency has given ChatGPT 20 days to try to solve it, otherwise a fine will follow.

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The problem of mankind is that we do not know how to limit our needs. And we do not know how to reasonably use what is given to us by nature, technology, ....

ChatGPT was immediately used by a lot of people as a solution "not to think" - someone started writing essays with it, someone coded, someone studied "closed" topics. But the potential of this solution is much greater, and there are a huge number of options for its illegal or "evil".
Even if it is not used, for example by outright terrorists, it can be used by quite a decent engineer responsible for developing software, for example, for a water discharge system at a state district power station. And he decides to do nothing and force him to write ChatGPT code... Considering that ChatGPT does not have valuable intelligence, but has a huge knowledge base on the basis of which it learns, there are quite high risks. Firstly, the learning base is not guaranteed to contain all programming sections and all domain knowledge. As a result, such a system can generate a code that is absolutely correct from the point of view of the language design, but the code will not take into account all the nuances that a narrow-profile specialist knows about. As a result, under some circumstances, this code, for example, will make uncontrolled discharges of water that will lead to the destruction of the power plant.

In a word - I support the idea of limited and controlled use of such powerful tools.

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Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.
The question for me is how long will they be able to suppress the development of AI. I do not support AI's because of how aware I am of the dangers they could pose, but not everyone will have this the same opinion that some of here have about it. To some set of people, AI should be the future an they will want to continue secretly with the development of this AI's even if the government do not approve it. It is even possible that these further development can be sponsored secretly by the government just so they can weaponize it. Almost everything is a possibility these days especially with the government of each country seeking superior technology that can give them an advantage over others.

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March 29 (Reuters) - Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts and industry executives are calling for a six-month pause in developing systems more powerful than OpenAI's newly launched GPT-4, in an open letter citing potential risks to society.

Earlier this month, Microsoft-backed OpenAI unveiled the fourth iteration of its GPT (Generative Pre-trained Transformer) AI program, which has wowed users by engaging them in human-like conversation, composing songs and summarising lengthy documents.

"Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable," said the letter issued by the Future of Life Institute.

After the recent events of the  fake AI generated photo of Pope the risks to the society are clear.

Technology personalities and even people from other areas such as Yuval Harari have been telling the risks of AI for years.

Risks must be correctly managed and there must be some kind of security protocols to avoid damage that chatgpt and others can do.

One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?

Elon has lost all respect and has zero moral compass, he is long past giving anyone else instructions on how things should be done after his string of scandals. Even if AI was paused in some countries, it would continue to be developed in others so it is probably best to understand the limits of it. It's sort of ridiculous to give an example of an "AI generated" image of the Pope because such things could be created in a couple minutes by someone who is an expert in photo shop, it's hardly ground breaking or threatening to enter uncharted territory in that sense.  Let's also remember that Elon took over twitter and promptly fired thousands of workers who were in charge of some of the departments that moderated content, looked at complaints and met social obligations.

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April 01, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
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That’s really some crazy AI generated image man. I’m also seeing these hundreds of Reels everyday where these ads will pop up about how GPT is creating my amazing image out of imagination and bla bla. Literally you can’t tell the difference mate and that’s not it. There are now AI who are able to generate voices and videos as well. I saw one where trump was giving some speech. Imagine someday they hack into national television, broadcast a video where they show president giving some crazy instructions and creating worst nightmare in the market around us.

This is definitely not good. What they are showing is some crazy unimaginable virtual reality, which isn’t really real. This has to stop for sure. 
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One question I have. Does chatgpt own any btc? Can it have some hidden keys?
Well, when things turn to religious icons then there are riots, and these riots are not liked by governments and authorities. Once they don't like them, then big tech icons like "Elon Musk and a group of artificial intelligence experts" are forced to pause things like AI. Secondly, I think AI is a little bit of an early technology because the new generation is way smarter than Gen-Z (like me), and I wonder why? But these tools are for them like not for us. Well, that depends on the usage. If we use it for better purposes, then it's cool even for authorities too, and vice versa.

I don't think that they will ban the whole AI program maybe chatgpt but not all other software in the market. because people have access to data and can generate their own AI according to their needs. like I have seen so many videos of AI models that a person can create if he/she gets access to useful "datasets," which are not publicly accessible. Here is a person on LinkedIn that comes with great videos about AI features (note* I am not promoting them, just sharing them for educational purposes).

Well, I don't think AI models can own Bitcoin, and that's why there shouldn't be any hidden key there, and I don't think it could access our private keys if you are asking about them. Maybe they could be programmed to buy Bitcoin at several entry points, but that's already happening. Many exchanges are using AI bots to execute limit orders on behalf of humans.

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