📌 [banned mixer] - Maximum Anonymity 🤖 Fees 1 - 5%

[icopress]

Other than that, perhaps you can also eliminate the Russian translation from OP, since it's outdated and a new translation will be performed in Russian...? (If you want I can talk to a Russian native speaker and kindly ask if he wants to make a new translation in Russian language).

I'll talk to Klarki because I think he's the best candidate. 

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[Peanutswar]

Good day WEB503 and Icopress,

I translated your ANN thread in our Local Pilipinas

You can check it out here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474661.0

Thank you.

[WEB503]

Good day WEB503 and Icopress,

I translated your ANN thread in our Local Pilipinas

You can check it out here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474661.0

Thank you.

Thank you very much! We just edited the first page of the thread and added a link to the Philippine thread. 

[GazetaBitcoin]

WEB503, this is a heads-up regarding Romanian translation of your topic: I am happy to announce you that the pictograms from OP are now localized in Romanian!

Please take a look and see if they look good

[internetional]

Friends, I want to inform you that the rebranding of the site is already at the final stage.

Any news about this? Have you already finished the rebranding?

[dkbit98]

I started testing webmixer service but than I saw that rebranding is underway and I think that is a good idea.
After searching for a way to contact their support I saw that only way of contacting them is with Jabber and Telegram.
I tried contacting them but I never received any answer from them, so they really need to improve that.
Add email support and better be responsive when users are contacting you.

[internetional]

I started testing webmixer service but than I saw that rebranding is underway and I think that is a good idea.
After searching for a way to contact their support I saw that only way of contacting them is with Jabber and Telegram.

Jabber? It looks so out-of-date! It's interesting to know how popular this communication method is among Webmixer’s clients. It certainly seems more anonymous than Telegram. But do many people remember how to set it up at all?

You could suggest something more modern, like SimpleX Chat or 0xChat, for instance. The latter operates based on Nostr, which is quite similar to Bitcoin. Anyone who mastered Bitcoin would easily navigate Nostr as well.

[paid2]

Jabber? It looks so out-of-date! It's interesting to know how popular this communication method is among Webmixer’s clients. It certainly seems more anonymous than Telegram. But do many people remember how to set it up at all?

You could suggest something more modern, like SimpleX Chat or 0xChat, for instance. The latter operates based on Nostr, which is quite similar to Bitcoin. Anyone who mastered Bitcoin would easily navigate Nostr as well.

I have to confess that I still use Jabber on a daily basis lol

However, I was also surprised to read that the support is available on Jabber, which I think is good, because unlike Telegram, Jabber gives you much more control over your data.

+1 for SimpleX, which would be a great addition!

[GazetaBitcoin]

Jabber? It looks so out-of-date!

If you take a look at BitcoinTalk's fields for instant messengers you'd say that Jabber is rocket science. The forum has fields for AIM, ICQ, MSN or Yahoo Messenger

+1 for SimpleX, which would be a great addition!

SimpleX seems to offer full anonymity. It has open source code and its code was recently audited. As a plus, it requires no email, no phone number. For example, it is used also by eXch, which are very focused on anonymity and privacy.

[Etranger]

I have to confess that I still use Jabber on a daily basis lol

However, I was also surprised to read that the support is available on Jabber, which I think is good, because unlike Telegram, Jabber gives you much more control over your data.

I have to confess that I have never heard about Jabber before 

Maybe it is really out-of-date, from those times when I didn't use any messenger since my parents didn't allow me to own gadgets

But I will pay my attention to it, since telegram is far from anonymity and privacy.

[internetional]

After your coins arrive in our props, your coins are split into random parts and sent to the biggest stock exchanges. You receive back purified BTC (depending on the mix mode you chose). You receive either coins from our clients who took advantage of the “max anonymity” mode, or you receive bitcoins sent from exchanges.

It turns out that even bitcoins coming from an exchange can be flagged as dirty. Yesterday, my wife sent bitcoins from her account on kraken.com to my account on bitpapa.com. My Bitpapa account was blocked, and Bitpapa wrote:

Unfortunately, our analytics system deems your transaction suspicious (high-risk level). This means that your transfer, platform, or wallet from which the transaction was made is funded from questionable sources. In such cases, we follow a strict protocol:
1. You need to undergo identity verification.
2. The transaction will be returned to the sender's wallet address.

If bitcoins from exchanges are no longer considered inherently clean, the purpose of exchanging non-exchange coins for exchange ones becomes obsolete.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

>>snip<<

Or maybe there's no “dirty” or “clean” bitcoin at all. Bitcoin is just Bitcoin but law enforcement and these centralized exchanges are trying so hard to make us think that our Bitcoin have to be “clean” if the source is anonymous, then they are not clean. Also, they are trying to force us into abandoning to use Bitcoins for daily activities for the fear of the bitcoins you own being tagged as “dirty”
Let's be honest, have you ever had anything like Clean dollars and dirty dollars? Should we say that the USD has never been used for Money Laundering or Financing terrorism?

[examplens]

>>snip<<

Or maybe there's no “dirty” or “clean” bitcoin at all. Bitcoin is just Bitcoin but law enforcement and these centralized exchanges are trying so hard to make us think that our Bitcoin have to be “clean” if the source is anonymous, then they are not clean. Also, they are trying to force us into abandoning to use Bitcoins for daily activities for the fear of the bitcoins you own being tagged as “dirty”
Let's be honest, have you ever had anything like Clean dollars and dirty dollars? Should we say that the USD has never been used for Money Laundering or Financing terrorism?

If this trend continues, in a few years 90% of all Bitcoins will be "dirty".
In fact, We will return to the division of services that require KYC and proof of origin for each transaction and services that do not require it.

[dkbit98]

It turns out that even bitcoins coming from an exchange can be flagged as dirty. Yesterday, my wife sent bitcoins from her account on kraken.com to my account on bitpapa.com. My Bitpapa account was blocked

Nothing strange there, this can always happen on most centralized services and exchanges.
There are many reports of customers account getting frozen without explanation, and they can make up any story about this.
Even the tools they are using to say if specific bitcoin is ''clean'' or not is full of flaws and it was never known to be accurate.
You are lucky that coins will be returned to sender's wallet address.

[Yamane_Keto]

It turns out that even bitcoins coming from an exchange can be flagged as dirty. Yesterday, my wife sent bitcoins from her account on kraken.com to my account on bitpapa.com. My Bitpapa account was blocked, and Bitpapa wrote:

I created this topic a while ago, in which you will find all the discussions related to Risk/AML score
These tools are not accurate and give results to the point that they cannot be relied upon as evidence in court and even Chainalysis failed to prove the accuracy of their results when there was an investigation.

The data showed that the volume of illegal transactions:

source https://amlcrypto.io

If the data is correct and compared to trading volumes and there is no regulated market, the percentage is very low.

[shield132]

After your coins arrive in our props, your coins are split into random parts and sent to the biggest stock exchanges. You receive back purified BTC (depending on the mix mode you chose). You receive either coins from our clients who took advantage of the “max anonymity” mode, or you receive bitcoins sent from exchanges.

It turns out that even bitcoins coming from an exchange can be flagged as dirty. Yesterday, my wife sent bitcoins from her account on kraken.com to my account on bitpapa.com. My Bitpapa account was blocked, and Bitpapa wrote:

Unfortunately, our analytics system deems your transaction suspicious (high-risk level). This means that your transfer, platform, or wallet from which the transaction was made is funded from questionable sources. In such cases, we follow a strict protocol:
1. You need to undergo identity verification.
2. The transaction will be returned to the sender's wallet address.

If bitcoins from exchanges are no longer considered inherently clean, the purpose of exchanging non-exchange coins for exchange ones becomes obsolete.

Haha, are you amazed that coins coming from a legit exchange are flagged as dirty? That's how blockchain analysis works. All these AML scores and tags are bullshit, their algorithm doesn't work and I have a doubt that they tag transactions randomly to make it appear like their algorithm works and when you give them proof that your funds are clean and come from a legit source, they apologize and say that it was a false positive.

It turns out that even bitcoins coming from an exchange can be flagged as dirty. Yesterday, my wife sent bitcoins from her account on kraken.com to my account on bitpapa.com. My Bitpapa account was blocked, and Bitpapa wrote:

I created this topic a while ago, in which you will find all the discussions related to Risk/AML score
These tools are not accurate and give results to the point that they cannot be relied upon as evidence in court and even Chainalysis failed to prove the accuracy of their results when there was an investigation.

The data showed that the volume of illegal transactions:

~snip~

If the data is correct and compared to trading volumes and there is no regulated market, the percentage is very low.

It's very bad that they represent bitcoin that way. First of all, if you are a victim of scam, that's not the fault of bitcoin. If you are a victim of theft, that's not the fault of bitcoin because you control your funds and if you lost them, search problem in yourself. I also think that they should put USD data next to Bitcoin to make things more clear.

[internetional]

Haha, are you amazed that coins coming from a legit exchange are flagged as dirty? That's how blockchain analysis works. All these AML scores and tags are bullshit, their algorithm doesn't work and I have a doubt that they tag transactions randomly to make it appear like their algorithm works and when you give them proof that your funds are clean and come from a legit source, they apologize and say that it was a false positive.

I've actually encountered something similar. I provided evidence that my bitcoins came from an exchange, and the recipient (the P2P exchange platform Bitpapa) apologized for the misunderstanding and accepted the bitcoins by transferring them from the deposit address to their storage address. This surprised me, as it either meant that the AML tag was removed, or Bitpapa 'stained' their storage. Today, it became clear that the tag was unlikely removed. When I tried to transfer bitcoins from the Bybit exchange to Bitpapa's address, Bybit's compliance department warned of a high-risk level for that address, and attempting further transfers to any addresses of the same entity could result in a ban. Moreover, the Kraken exchange, from which my initial flagged transfer was made, seems to be facing a surge in complaints. Previously, their support responded within minutes, but now the response time has increased, and a query from December 11 remains unanswered.

Overall, I'm concerned that if Webmixer and other mixers openly claim to facilitate withdrawals from exchange addresses, AML services may be forced to deem all exchange addresses as high-risk.

[witcher_sense]

Since the guys from Webmixer recently published a new version of their website, I would like to say a few words about my experience and impressions of interacting with this wonderful privacy tool, as well as about how Webmixer helps protect your privacy and anonymity of your financial transactions.

- As of today, Webmixer is a single-page application in which all interactions with the end user occuring without him having to jump and click through lots of pages. This not only helps to ensure a minimalistic, responsive and user-friendly design, but also helps users focus on the most important thing - ensuring their privacy with the help of transaction mixing tools.

- A combination of red, black and white colors of the light mode of the interface (the one that I personally prefer) impoves reading comprehension, motivating you to read all the FAQs present on the website very carefully to ensure the smooth interaction during mixing process.

- Needless to say that Webmixer website does not spy on you and does not analyze your activity by employing different trackers, you can check it for yourself by visiting this link: https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=[banned mixer]&device=mobile&location=us

- As far as I understand, it also is not running any Javasctipt code on their website, at least enabling browser extensions like NoScript doesn't break its functionality.

- Based on the above observations, I can say with confidence that by interacting with this website you do not risk revealing your identity to third parties, which is a key factor when using such a tool.

- Moreover, Webmixer claims that all service information is wiped after 24 hours and that they doesn't keep any logs, which is also very good for keeping your privacy untouched, but unfortunately I dont't think it is possible to verify these claims.

- As for mixing process itself, it just works and works flawlessly: you can be sure that your deposit will have zero connections with your withdrawal.

[sabotag3x]

I published an review in Portuguese before WebMixer changed their site design. Here's my experience:

Of the 3 ways to mix your bitcoins (Basic Anonymity, Precise Payment and Full Anonymity) I chose the first option that has the lowest fee (1-1,5%+0,00035 BTC) and got my bitcoins within the given mixing time (0-2 hours).

Although it says 'basic anonymity', I believe it would be very difficult (if not impossible) for someone to link my deposit and withdrawal addresses. So I'm happy with the results.

For a non-regular mixer user, all I can say is that I had a smooth experience using WebMixer.

I also tried the Webmixer's Telegram bot. It's an interesting service, but the Letter of Guarantee is written in Russian.. Maybe you can change it to English.

Still regarding the Letter of Guarantee, it's very hard to verify if it's genuine as I didn't find the key on the website.

About the Webmixer's new website design, it's clean and easy to use.. can't be better than that.. I loved the dark theme, btw.

[mk4]

1. Advertising/Promotional materials are in black/purple, but the website UI is white/red? It would make more sense to use white/purple for light mode. I can see how this can confuse some people thinking "Am I on the right website?".

2. Re: Source of coins: I assume "CLIENTS" meant other WebMixer users; but what is "STOCK EXCHANGES"?

3. Probably use periods(.) than commas(,) when doing decimals as the former is more widely adopted as far as I know(Correct me if I'm wrong).

4. Downloaded letter of guarantee file: assuming you're expecting your users to want to use your service multiple times, it's better to add a date and timestamp on the .txt file's file name rather than just using "LetterGuarantee.txt"

5. Grammatical issues in general. Hire a proofreader as wrong grammar can look scammy.

6. (Using the default English page): Under PRECISE PAYMENT, the How does it work? link is in Russian. Under MAX ANONYMITY,  Mixing Time is in Russian. Keep things consistent.

These might look too 'minimal' in some sense, but everything adds up for the entirety of the user experience.


I am currently waiting to receive my mixed funds, but so far the experience has been smooth.

On another note: Precise Payment and Max Anonymity having 4-5% + 00007 BTC commission is quite expensive. This should be lowered if possible.


EDIT: The "errors" I mentioned in this post wasn't necessarily grammatically "wrong", but they are worded in a way that they could give a different meaning.

• Innovative mixing technology brings anonymity to everyone. Innovative mixing technology that brings anonymity to everyone.
• You are not required to use any other cryptocurrencies Zero need to use other cryptocurrencies.
• The exact amount will be sent to the first address and the rest to the second The exact amount will be sent to the first address, then the rest to the second.
• Specify BTC addresses to receive coins Specify your BTC addresses that will receive the coins.
• The leading-edge anonymization algorithm in the "Complete anonymity" mode. The best there is. Our leading-edge anonymization algorithm guarantees complete anonymity.
• Immediate auto-deletion of data. Data on requests for mixing gets erased in 168 hr 168 hrs.
• YOUR RELIABLE SAFETY Just say 100% reliability