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April 06, 2023, 09:15:45 PM
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No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.

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April 06, 2023, 09:21:50 PM
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They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.

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April 06, 2023, 09:28:10 PM
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Sometimes I do question this too but it's a drop or what they call a "rain" so I doubt some gamblers will create a ruckus out of it. I even question those who receive the drop, maybe because I have not experienced it yet. Questions like, they may be part of the team or dummies of the team behind the company.
But as I said, I won't waste time questioning it because they are freebies. It's like a charity that cannot be questioned by the government.
Maybe if I receive it once, I will believe it. Regarding the number of the sent rain, now that's a more difficult question and we might never know unless someone who does it will come out and share the list.



This rain that you are talking about in crypto gambling, I also experienced it once, I just can't remember the name of the casino. It's like faucets or giveaways during that time they gave something every 30 mins at those times.

But, in order for you to qualify for these drops, you must first be able to enter money into their gambling platform, and in fairness, it was pretty good by that time, but now it seems that these features have been removed from crypto gambling as I just noticed.

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April 06, 2023, 09:31:03 PM
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That is really the problem, but they always provide ID numbers or, like, names for those who have one as part of transparency, but others will just email them, which is the problem. How do we know if they really select 500 winners on it? Well, that's really on casinos, and let's just say that we've gotten lucky if we've been selected as winners. Trust is really what we are holding onto for this, as it is their event and we have nothing to do with it; we just participate in it to have a chance to win.
We can't determine whether they telling or exposing the real list or number of users won , but since it's just their giveaways or free program we will just need to consider ourselves lucky if we are included in those who won. They are not required to provide list as they are not required to create giveaways or programs but they have to just to attract more users. If they're already a trusted casino and also have a built reputation that users come and play in them, having giveaways will just be an addition but not will matter whether they are telling truth in their giveaways winner as long as they providing good services in their players when it comes in support, in their deposits and having attractive games.

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April 06, 2023, 09:34:28 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

We will never know, just like when others accused casinos of cheating them and that the casino's are not fair. Not unless they will have to show us the name of the gamblers that have received the drop and they themselves confirmed it. But as gamblers in crypto, we wanted to remain as private and anonymous so I doubt that casinos will give us the names or the gamblers confirming that they've got the drop.

So for me there's no way to confirmed it.

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April 06, 2023, 09:41:20 PM
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So for me there's no way to confirmed it.
And even you approach and ask them how the procedure went, it's unlikely they'll answer it. Well, if I'm a winner, I won't be interested anymore to know how I've won with such.

Although some sort of verification needed to be done by them in able to verify and confirm that the winners deserve it. It's a lot of work if the winners numbers are a lot, coming from hundreds to thousands.

That's a lot of time needed for them check each of them and somehow it's a thought that counts for someone like OP. But as the majority wouldn't think of it especially if they're picked and part of the list.

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April 06, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
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So for me there's no way to confirmed it.
And even you approach and ask them how the procedure went, it's unlikely they'll answer it. Well, if I'm a winner, I won't be interested anymore to know how I've won with such.

Although some sort of verification needed to be done by them in able to verify and confirm that the winners deserve it. It's a lot of work if the winners numbers are a lot, coming from hundreds to thousands.

That's a lot of time needed for them check each of them and somehow it's a thought that counts for someone like OP. But as the majority wouldn't think of it especially if they're picked and part of the list.
If you are a winner then you wouldnt really be raising up some questions because who would be the one to raise up such concern when you are included with those selection? You are just finding
yourself into some possible argumentation which would be ending up on voiding your win and would choose up for another winning.This is why it would really just that normal that you wouldnt
be raising up questions but for those people who hadnt been chosen then that people are the ones who would be raising up questions in regarding with the results which is something
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April 06, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
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Not easy to figure out how many users are able to claim such codes shared on the social media but time limit can be used to track when the bonus drop availability ends. Some big platforms put wager requirements for claiming code drops so it is not as easy as it sounds to get all data who claimed it. If you have doubts specific casino cheats on the numbers, you may ask from support to prove marketing trick has not been used to convince users, IMHO.
Even if you ask their support, for sure they can manipulate the data as long as they benefited on this.
There’s no way to know this one, and better to ignore this instead of focusing on a things that we cannot control. Maybe there’s limit for every promotions or none at all, once you are able to claim the reward then your concern should be answered, many site will not ruin their reputation by just having this promotions being manipulated, let’s give the benefit of the doubt to the top sites.

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April 06, 2023, 09:54:27 PM
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No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.

Exactly mate and we should also understand that these casinos are also in business and are there to make money just as we gamblers are there to make money as well.
Most times I also think alike with OP because there is no way a casino would give out all the bonuses they promise and still be in so much active business, let's say a bonus was given to two thousand and five hundred persons ( 2500) and let's just assume that they all win their bets with the bonuses and let's say they all make over ten thousand dollars (10,000) each which means the casino should be in a loss of over twenty five million dollars (25,000,000) how so we expect a casino cope with that? So I believe they are always very careful with giving out bonuses.

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April 06, 2023, 10:38:31 PM
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No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.
Gambling is a business and for that reason they'll look for the growth as well as better profit with time. Transparency adds more trust to the platform, but we can't expect things to be cent percent perfect. When we talk about the bonuses and other form of lucky draws mostly the platforms will be in favour of the Whale gamblers who are more important than the random gamblers who wager few thousand dollars to the maximum.

In an wagering contest I was able to see a person winning a million dollar bonus sharing just with two tickets while the rest were with thousands of tickets. Such incidents make people have good trust over the platform and believe in the system. There is need of honesty and transparency to stay strong in the high competence industry as we were able to see more casinos getting into existence regularly.
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The possibility of scrutinizing properly to know who has or who has been omitted is very slim. AFAIK, the casino site reviews every update on the bonus history and payouts so they could eventually Decide to include even a more vast number of peeps that didn't even participate to get the reward,...but that's not even your business anyways.
Now the main goal is making it look real and enticing; that's the reason other convincing means are used too... I think we've got alot of honesty sites that'll even make 'em bonuses smaller but to everyone that's worth it.

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No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.
I think your statement might actually be true, because  I have really wonder how these casinos actually award their bonuses and when I say casino am referring to both the fiat casinos too. I have an account with a local casino here in my country with the name betking.com and I have been using this for more than a year now but I haven't been awarded Any official bonus on the account with the casino, so I had to call a make complaint and I was clearly told by the customer care agent that their casino bonus are awarded to specific user that have patronize them to a certain level. So I had to worry less about not having bonus on my account again although I felt a little down as I thought the bonus were actually given at a random selection of user accounts.

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April 07, 2023, 12:54:49 AM
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Trust remains the most important thing that connects casinos to users. And casinos strive to build that confidence by achieving several goals that are the criteria for any user to choose from. With thousands of casinos available, it can be difficult to ensure that your well-being and pockets are safeguarded.
To determine whether a casino is reliable or not, most important points that can be focused on to choose a reliable casino is that it is a licensed casino because it is very dangerous to use an unlicensed casino. Also, the payment system should be effective on the casino, allowing for smooth withdrawal and deposit transactions. There is another point that is no less important regarding bonus campaigns, which is that this bonus is achievable.
I'd actually say that the same could be said for any other business, and not just casinos. I'd just say that the relationship seems a bit more easily strained when it comes to casinos since it involves money-to-money directly, instead of other businesses where it's money-to-product or money-to-service (I can argue that casinos are technically money-to-service, but hey, said service is giving out money to winners so I guess it's a kind of a special case).

In any case, trust in something new would usually rely on their reputation, the same could be said for the new projects that said the business would release, which is basically what casinos do with drops and whatnot.

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April 07, 2023, 01:44:29 AM
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How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

This is one of the problems that only blockchain transparency could solve, but as payments are made to internal addresses that only exist within exchanges, we will never know who actually won such a prize.
What could be done is for the casino to publicly disclose the nickname/login of the players who won, then we could know at least the fictitious names of the winners and if any of them said they didn't win the prize, then we would already have a red alert to start investigating .

Anyway, I prefer to believe in the honesty of the casinos that are more popular, because I've always reserved myself to bet on them and not on any casino that appears around here.
I believe that the casinos we have known for several months have a lot of reputation to uphold and should act honestly.

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Not easy to figure out how many users are able to claim such codes shared on the social media but time limit can be used to track when the bonus drop availability ends. Some big platforms put wager requirements for claiming code drops so it is not as easy as it sounds to get all data who claimed it. If you have doubts specific casino cheats on the numbers, you may ask from support to prove marketing trick has not been used to convince users, IMHO.

Another thing is the users do not need to know at the same time what are the numbers of players that claim their rewards because there's nothing impact on it, that's why most of the casinos show the number of the total wagered mostly because to tell to their players that they are continuously progressing with the number of players, rewards always have a designated task for their players before claiming the rewards if the player does not comply with the requirements of course nothing will recieved for the reward.

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Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .

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Yes, I'm with the majority here, yes there are a lot of trusted casino's, those platform that we have played for years already and has a lot of competitions and even whales who join.

But there's no way for us to verify has transparent they are as far as giving those bonuses or rewards to it's players. Only they have the numbers and no one can verify if they really gave that huge amount of money to the winners or not. And with that, the only thing we can do is to accept what they said base on face value alone.

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Yes, I'm with the majority here, yes there are a lot of trusted casino's, those platform that we have played for years already and has a lot of competitions and even whales who join.

But there's no way for us to verify has transparent they are as far as giving those bonuses or rewards to it's players. Only they have the numbers and no one can verify if they really gave that huge amount of money to the winners or not. And with that, the only thing we can do is to accept what they said base on face value alone.

You just have to be grateful when you receive a bonus, it doesn't come every day. The trusted casinos we know might not really be transparent but you wouldn't really rely on the bonuses. When a casino announced some users got bonuses and you will not be able to find out if those users actually got some bonuses after all we all like privacy.

New casinos can also promote themselves pretending they are giving bonuses too. But they just can't fake reputation. I'm just assuming the point of the thread would be for such a situation as new casinos wanted to exploit.


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April 07, 2023, 05:40:31 AM
 #159

Yes, I'm with the majority here, yes there are a lot of trusted casino's, those platform that we have played for years already and has a lot of competitions and even whales who join.

But there's no way for us to verify has transparent they are as far as giving those bonuses or rewards to it's players. Only they have the numbers and no one can verify if they really gave that huge amount of money to the winners or not. And with that, the only thing we can do is to accept what they said base on face value alone.
Therefore, instead of continuing to think about the transparency of one casino or looking for the truth that we don't know at all, it's better for us to play gambling and enjoy the bonuses. It will make us forget things that are not really important for us to know and we will leave that to the casinos to manage. After all, a trusted casino will not disappoint its users, especially its loyal users, because loyal users have made the casino develop well. This is where the casino owner must always realize to provide the best for its members.

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April 07, 2023, 07:53:11 AM
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They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.

Funnily enough, they have one of the simplest business models on the planet. Build some games that can take in money, build enough security around them in many forms to keep the funds safe, hire a customer service team and then try to acquire as many new customers (including via special promotions) because each new one will generally be handing you free money because they don't understand the odds involved. Sportbooks get slightly more complicated as you need to do a lot of data crunching and analysis, even if outsourced, in order to be able to offer competitive odds and also make sure that you're not getting tricked in all sorts of different ways like match fixing.

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