justbit.io asks for KYC (their site say NO KYC) then confiscates my winnings

[rodskee]

I guess before we sign up and use a site, we need to check if they have a license, and if they have a license we should assume that eventually they'll ask for a KYC because they are regulated.

The casino in question has a valid license and they state in their ToS that they may ask for kyc. The question is why they insist on promoting themselves as a non-kyc crypto casino! This is a blatant lie.
We may find them some excuses and understand it if they only impose it on high-risk players like those who use the casino to hide their criminal activities (money laundering and such). But asking every user who makes a withdrawal request to verify his identity for no valid reason is unacceptable.

That is misleading and that is also shows how lying and not trustworthy this kind of gambling site,
while there are still victims yet each gamblers must not only check their banners but instead check their
TOS because those are changes that they wanted to implement .
and for me this is how stupid this kind of casinos must never be trusted because of their attitude .

[Russlenat]

I guess before we sign up and use a site, we need to check if they have a license, and if they have a license we should assume that eventually they'll ask for a KYC because they are regulated.

The casino in question has a valid license and they state in their ToS that they may ask for kyc. The question is why they insist on promoting themselves as a non-kyc crypto casino! This is a blatant lie.
We may find them some excuses and understand it if they only impose it on high-risk players like those who use the casino to hide their criminal activities (money laundering and such). But asking every user who makes a withdrawal request to verify his identity for no valid reason is unacceptable.

That is misleading and that is also shows how lying and not trustworthy this kind of gambling site,
while there are still victims yet each gamblers must not only check their banners but instead check their
TOS because those are changes that they wanted to implement .
and for me this is how stupid this kind of casinos must never be trusted because of their attitude .

The reflects the reputation of the casino, I know they may advertise that they are a non KYC casino but us gamblers has to ensure if that is really true. Like I mentioned, we should check if they regulated or not, and assume they may require KYC if they are regulated.

There's always a crosschecking on our end and not just believe on the advertisements they are making that will provide us comfort since they all point out the TOS that we sign up during the registration process. Yes, they lie, we can contest on that, but the damage has already been done, we chould have avoided it if in the first place we are well aware and assume that this casino is lying, we don't trust liers, right?

[avp2306]

I guess before we sign up and use a site, we need to check if they have a license, and if they have a license we should assume that eventually they'll ask for a KYC because they are regulated.

The casino in question has a valid license and they state in their ToS that they may ask for kyc. The question is why they insist on promoting themselves as a non-kyc crypto casino! This is a blatant lie.
We may find them some excuses and understand it if they only impose it on high-risk players like those who use the casino to hide their criminal activities (money laundering and such). But asking every user who makes a withdrawal request to verify his identity for no valid reason is unacceptable.

That is misleading and that is also shows how lying and not trustworthy this kind of gambling site,
while there are still victims yet each gamblers must not only check their banners but instead check their
TOS because those are changes that they wanted to implement .
and for me this is how stupid this kind of casinos must never be trusted because of their attitude .

The reflects the reputation of the casino, I know they may advertise that they are a non KYC casino but us gamblers has to ensure if that is really true. Like I mentioned, we should check if they regulated or not, and assume they may require KYC if they are regulated.

There's always a crosschecking on our end and not just believe on the advertisements they are making that will provide us comfort since they all point out the TOS that we sign up during the registration process. Yes, they lie, we can contest on that, but the damage has already been done, we chould have avoided it if in the first place we are well aware and assume that this casino is lying, we don't trust liers, right?

Its total neglect to our part if we didn't check their TOS since from there we can check their rules and possible implementation that's the reason its important to check every details so that they would not use some reasons for us to get compromised and we already know about there rules also if there's changes happen. So I guess its still up to people if they believe on a casino saying that they are not KYC compliant but have license since for sure they are just hiding that requirements and better to be aware about that lies to avoid them. This is why I always choose reputable casino since we are confident that they don't fool us.

[teamsherry]

The confusion here is that you didn't read their terms and conditions, they might have just said no kyc to convince you make deposit, cause many sites doesn't request KYC for deposit but only after you want to withdraw.

That's why it's good to read terms and conditions, cause if you did you won't find yourself in this mess right now.

I think such casinos that lie when doing promotion are not honest and are trying to mislead users into making deposits, but as users we should always do the extra check to make sure we don't fall I to such traps.

[yahoo62278]

If a casino advertises no KYC for crypto users, then it should be held to that standard IMO. You either have no KYC or you have it, if you are going to use KYC in select cases, then you cannot use the banner no KYC. Seems pretty simple. Feels like a site uses that banner to attract customers and fuck em if they win.

[kotajikikox]

If a casino advertises no KYC for crypto users, then it should be held to that standard IMO. You either have no KYC or you have it, if you are going to use KYC in select cases, then you cannot use the banner no KYC. Seems pretty simple. Feels like a site uses that banner to attract customers and fuck em if they win.

A typical scam site without label .

this has been the issue of some casino lately that promote their site to be KYC free but if you read the TOS ?there you will find that they can ask for some special reason.

if they are not completely   KYC free then do not promote as one.

[Yaunfitda]

The confusion here is that you didn't read their terms and conditions, they might have just said no kyc to convince you make deposit, cause many sites doesn't request KYC for deposit but only after you want to withdraw.

That's why it's good to read terms and conditions, cause if you did you won't find yourself in this mess right now.

I think such casinos that lie when doing promotion are not honest and are trying to mislead users into making deposits, but as users we should always do the extra check to make sure we don't fall I to such traps.

Wrong, that is already a trap for gamblers, so there is no confusion, it's more of misleading their customers to deposit and play and hope that they will lose money so there will be no KYC for them. But as soon as they started to win and win big, this casino suddenly started to ask for KYC where in their site it's says no KYC. I think gamblers now are more intelligent than before, 90% could have been researching casino's ToS first before making their first deposit. I know it's a never ending dilemma for gamblers in crypto casinos, but I guess this kind of attempts to mislead is done on purpose like in this case and it's obvious a scam attempt.

[arwin100]

The confusion here is that you didn't read their terms and conditions, they might have just said no kyc to convince you make deposit, cause many sites doesn't request KYC for deposit but only after you want to withdraw.

That's why it's good to read terms and conditions, cause if you did you won't find yourself in this mess right now.

I think such casinos that lie when doing promotion are not honest and are trying to mislead users into making deposits, but as users we should always do the extra check to make sure we don't fall I to such traps.

Wrong, that is already a trap for gamblers, so there is no confusion, it's more of misleading their customers to deposit and play and hope that they will lose money so there will be no KYC for them. But as soon as they started to win and win big, this casino suddenly started to ask for KYC where in their site it's says no KYC. I think gamblers now are more intelligent than before, 90% could have been researching casino's ToS first before making their first deposit. I know it's a never ending dilemma for gamblers in crypto casinos, but I guess this kind of attempts to mislead is done on purpose like in this case and it's obvious a scam attempt.

Its really a trap since they won't say they are not KYC compliant if they plan to implement it on future. Its deceiving market tactics and a casino engaging on this kind of practice should not be trusted. They fool people at first when they introduce their casino to gamblers here so there's high chances that they deceive their gamblers when there's huge money will be deposit on their casino. If they are trying to gain a reputation in gambling industry they should not fool their costumers. If a new casino will say that they are not Kyc compliant casino  and when I check their TOS there's written information about possible Kyc  implementation then I will not spend sometime in that casino and think that they are scam.

[Russlenat]

I guess before we sign up and use a site, we need to check if they have a license, and if they have a license we should assume that eventually they'll ask for a KYC because they are regulated.

The casino in question has a valid license and they state in their ToS that they may ask for kyc. The question is why they insist on promoting themselves as a non-kyc crypto casino! This is a blatant lie.
We may find them some excuses and understand it if they only impose it on high-risk players like those who use the casino to hide their criminal activities (money laundering and such). But asking every user who makes a withdrawal request to verify his identity for no valid reason is unacceptable.

That is misleading and that is also shows how lying and not trustworthy this kind of gambling site,
while there are still victims yet each gamblers must not only check their banners but instead check their
TOS because those are changes that they wanted to implement .
and for me this is how stupid this kind of casinos must never be trusted because of their attitude .

The reflects the reputation of the casino, I know they may advertise that they are a non KYC casino but us gamblers has to ensure if that is really true. Like I mentioned, we should check if they regulated or not, and assume they may require KYC if they are regulated.

There's always a crosschecking on our end and not just believe on the advertisements they are making that will provide us comfort since they all point out the TOS that we sign up during the registration process. Yes, they lie, we can contest on that, but the damage has already been done, we chould have avoided it if in the first place we are well aware and assume that this casino is lying, we don't trust liers, right?

Its total neglect to our part if we didn't check their TOS since from there we can check their rules and possible implementation that's the reason its important to check every details so that they would not use some reasons for us to get compromised and we already know about there rules also if there's changes happen. So I guess its still up to people if they believe on a casino saying that they are not KYC compliant but have license since for sure they are just hiding that requirements and better to be aware about that lies to avoid them.

There's nothing to be blame here but ourselves, we know that we will be in trouble in the future and yet we still use the service. Not every sweet promise are going to be followed by them. of course, they are marketing people to play with them, so they will give every promising statement just to attract them and that includes lying... when they say they will not require a KYC, well that could be partly true, but they didn't stress the reality that they might require overtime. In short, they are trying to trick us while they are still safe from the regulators.

This is why I always choose reputable casino since we are confident that they don't fool us.

Best thing to do as a gambler.. if we make mistakes, we learn from it... or just do the research so we don't need to learn from our own mistake but other people. When it comes to money we should be carefull and if we do not do research, it's still us that will suffer in the end.

If a casino advertises no KYC for crypto users, then it should be held to that standard IMO. You either have no KYC or you have it, if you are going to use KYC in select cases, then you cannot use the banner no KYC. Seems pretty simple. Feels like a site uses that banner to attract customers and fuck em if they win.

If we fall to their trap we will loss easily. We might be able to create a scam accusation about them, destroy their rpeutation but our money is gone....