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May 06, 2023, 01:19:23 PM
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i literally do the same bet with 1.01x on rollbit but with low amount of wager, after seeing this thread i cash out all my balance from rollbit. i did this also on stake and never have a problem, i guess i stay with stake
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May 06, 2023, 03:20:28 PM
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This these started to looks not so good. BitcoinGirl.Club, has you got any reply from Razer? Their last online activity was on 2nd of May, means they should have been aware and reading your PM. If they didn't reply you, you'll be the third user they deliberately ignore.
They did not reply me [I don't want a reply too] but I was expecting them to response in this and the other case against them. Since there is a chance for me to lose the track, I will leave a neutral tag just to remind me in the future if more accusations are coming from users and they are continuing ignoring the accusations.

A business representative can have a lot of other things to take care so I will not be too harsh to leave a negative yet. In the forum we need projects to work freely without feeling pressure on the other hand we also need to see how happy their clients are. Too many bad experience will not be a good indicator for a casino / sportsbook.


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May 08, 2023, 03:22:22 AM
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i literally do the same bet with 1.01x on rollbit but with low amount of wager, after seeing this thread i cash out all my balance from rollbit. i did this also on stake and never have a problem, i guess i stay with stake

Good idea! Glad you got to read through the thread and see my experience. Really hope others see this and shift away from Rollbit. Their support and overall lack of explanation in this matter should not be taken lightly. I also saw there are a couple other accusations out there against Rollbit for various things so maybe there is something going on at the company.

I still patiently wait for a reply from them on email and in this thread. Any other ideas from the community on what to do? Thanks.
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May 08, 2023, 08:54:37 AM
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Obviously, it is the biggest joke and scam company. They deduct players' winnings for such bets, which is really frustrating. If they don't accept low odds betting platforms, there are many ways to control them. Why do they keep it up and let players step on mines? If you win, they deduct your winnings; if you lose, what happens? This platform will eventually go bankrupt. Rebates are a platform issue. Why do they solve problems by deducting winnings? I have never heard of bet365 or sketa having such controversial issues. If OP requires KYC verification and still deducts winnings, it is really unbelievable. Platforms like bet365 and stake can take away all their winnings if KYC verification is required. It's just that some platforms that spend a lot of money on advertising will cheat players instead. Such platforms must have ratings far higher than stake on other forums as well. In fact, it follows the 1xbet model but does slightly better than 1xbet - in reality, it's also a scam company.
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May 08, 2023, 11:42:38 AM
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I still patiently wait for a reply from them on email and in this thread. Any other ideas from the community on what to do? Thanks.

For now? I think the best you can do is wait patiently. There's no ADR platform that could help intermediating your case --that we know of-- so your best chance is probably wait for their reply here on the forum. I have left a negative feedback on both of their official accounts for a neighboring case in hope to persuade them solving cases against them that started to form a pile, and bitcoingirl has also left a neutral tag, albeit for different purpose. I suggest you to wait until they're back online and see if they'll respond to your case

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May 10, 2023, 12:24:59 PM
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Hi All,

I typically don't post on forums or anywhere but I am generally a quiet researcher that likes to verify postings about companies and see user experiences before indulging myself.

Scamming site: Rollbit.com

Background:

Over the past six months I was a user of a site called Rollbit, which many of you may know and enjoy. They offer a variety of casino games (I don't particularly enjoy any slots etc), NFT, Sportsbook, Lottery and much more. I generally used the sportsbook but dabbled in the occasional NFT lootbox, ultimate texas holdem for fun. The rewards program was fantastic as it gave you a rakeback and if you had a rollbot attached to your profile you could even get more % back from your bets.

To be clear I only ever used 1 account, Markobagz, and many in the community/chat knew of me. I was sometimes active in chat and talked with a couple influencers online about Rollbit news.

Over this time I deposited and withdrew around 30 times each without any issue, unless a particular crypto was done (SOL lol). I started to implement a strategy that I thought was going to make me money instead of just blindly betting without any thought process. The idea is to minimize your risk involved with bets and bet on extremely safe options that have low odds, 1.003 -1.02. The likelihood of you winning is high and you get the rakebacks involved. I typically would bet on CSGO over 18.5 rounds and they would hit more often than not. I must say I did lose around 5-6 of these bets on the csgo rounds. I also bet MMA with 1k bets on Israel adesanya in his last title fight, I do LOL at 1.5 odds. I bet basketball at 1.01 (Which failed more often that not) during live games. I liked Dota 2 as well just as it is fun to watch for me. I had a 5k bet at end of march at 1.02 odds for Aster to win a game in their match that lost. The majority of my bets were on random odds and not super low ones. 

What happened:

I try to login to my account on saturday morning, April 15th 2023 and it says account disabled please contact support. This was alarming as I have no clue what is going on. My last bet the night before at 1.003 odds LOST $1000 for the csgo game as well. Couple days before I was putting 1k on Dota 2 at 1.3-1.8 odds for around 20 bets. I start thinking to myself that they pulled a fast one on me and are keeping my funds, which is around 10.2k in my account. So, I email their support saying what has happened to my account, my funds and why they have not given me any explanation on the situation. Their reply was -

"Hello there,

Your account has been disabled permanently for abusing our Sportsbook feature.

Moonlight

Rollbit"

This was shocking to receive this response back form their support and I still did not get any reason why I was abusing it. They are putting the odds up for users to bet on, and I am placing those bets on the odds they provide. I was not trying to abuse anything and on top of that, I was losing a lot of bets every day! 

I reply back saying I am confused and to explain why I was abusing it and i get this reply back

"We have nothing further to comment on this situation.

Your account was found to be clearing abusing our sportsbook.

It will remain locked, permanently.

Lunr

Rollbit"

They still did not provide me any sort of response on my funds, apart from my account is closed permanently. I don't know what else to do at this point as I send 5 more emails to support without a reply. So I take to twitter to ask for assistance through their community members and people related to Rollbit.

Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/SmokeyLisa_eth/status/1647243443209469953

Their community manager states:

"The remaining funds on the account were rewards attributed from sportsbook abuse. Your account is up overall so you have not lost any money at all. I have just analysed your betting patterns and it's clear what you are doing."

I keep asking what I abused and to provide me the reason as I was losing money with my last bet even. What really shocked me is her saying that my account is up overall so I have not lost any money. That seems ridiculous.

On top of that, I was rewarded around 19.5k give or take from Rollbit. That would mean they believe that I abused the sportsbook for over half of my bets to consider the 'remaining funds on my account is attributed to sportsbook abuse".

No one on twitter replies to me or support anymore and they won't tell me what they are doing with my funds. Honestly a big letdown from Rollbit as they never mentioned to me anything I was doing was wrong. It seems that if I won the bets and rewards that is not ok, but if I lose bets for large amounts then that is ok.

Links for proof of conversations:

My account April 14 with 10.2k in it, Proof of Payment - https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img923/6984/p9xpxZ.jpg

PM/Chat Logs, Conversations with support - https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img924/9297/wfadoU.png

https://imagizer. imageshack.  com/img924/228/CYnbFO.png

Some Images of me losing large bets with low odds - https://imagizer. imageshack.  com/img923/6068/PbgIkR.jpg
https://imagizer. imageshack.   com/img923/3903/2BLLj4.jpg

Amount Scammed: $10,200 plus a rollbot worth 1k.

Additional Notes: There is not much recourse for people in my situation it seems but the thing I will do is file a complaint with the CEG and maybe files complaints against their payment agents in Cyprus.

My goal here is to warn others that this can happen to you too and you might not have any recourse. Of course I would like my funds returned to me but the chances of that are slim from a company like this. It really is sad to see as Rollbit was a favorite platform for me.

If anyone has any comments, or suggestions on what I should do I'm all ears. If you took the time to read this, I appreciate it and wish you the best of luck on your future playing.





rollbit.com is scam site. rollbit employee reply your post.
just stay sway rollbit scam
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May 10, 2023, 07:21:34 PM
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Hey there,

Had some DMs about not replying to this thread.

Please find our response earlier in the thread here.

This was a case of clear-cut Sportsbook abuse, identified by our provider Betby. We explained the same to OP via our on-site support.

To reiterate for anyone new here, the player is in profit.

Thanks,
Razer

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What an abuse that was, dumbass ;Dfrom a legal point of view, the player has the right to bet on everything that is offered on the site
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Last edit: May 11, 2023, 01:07:48 AM by yahoo62278
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Hey there,

Had some DMs about not replying to this thread.

Please find our response earlier in the thread here.

This was a case of clear-cut Sportsbook abuse, identified by our provider Betby. We explained the same to OP via our on-site support.

To reiterate for anyone new here, the player is in profit.

Thanks,
Razer
What is the abuse? He made bets that your site allows? From the screenshots I can see they weren't all winning bets and not all 1.01 odds or whatever bullshit you're saying he abused. If you don't want players collecting bonuses, then you shouldn't allow bonuses to be earned from certain bets. You offered and accepted the bet, deal with it. Him being in profit is irrelevant!!!

It's insane that you penalize a player for making bets that you allow and accept. Why offer the odds if you're not going to honor them. Clear cut excuse for you guys to confiscate funds and not payout.

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May 12, 2023, 01:48:43 AM
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Hey there,

Had some DMs about not replying to this thread.

Please find our response earlier in the thread here.

This was a case of clear-cut Sportsbook abuse, identified by our provider Betby. We explained the same to OP via our on-site support.

To reiterate for anyone new here, the player is in profit.

Thanks,
Razer

Rollbit Razer just do withraws user money. do not leave trash post.
and there are several rollbit paid staff in bitcointalk forum
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May 12, 2023, 02:38:58 AM
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and there are several rollbit paid staff in bitcointalk forum
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Really?

holydarkness tagged Rollbit negatively to catch their attention to handle some cases recently. Is it a thing a staff will ready to do? If they are staffs, they can sort it out internally with internal links.

You just stir a shit towards a person who wanted to help you.

Can you tell us the total amount $$ you deposited into your Rollbit account?
100$ usd
Really?

Deposit $100 and trade it to $20,000. Is it too good to be true?

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May 12, 2023, 02:57:11 AM
 #52

Hey there,

Had some DMs about not replying to this thread.

Please find our response earlier in the thread here.

This was a case of clear-cut Sportsbook abuse, identified by our provider Betby. We explained the same to OP via our on-site support.

To reiterate for anyone new here, the player is in profit.

Thanks,
Razer
What is the abuse? He made bets that your site allows? From the screenshots I can see they weren't all winning bets and not all 1.01 odds or whatever bullshit you're saying he abused. If you don't want players collecting bonuses, then you shouldn't allow bonuses to be earned from certain bets. You offered and accepted the bet, deal with it. Him being in profit is irrelevant!!!

It's insane that you penalize a player for making bets that you allow and accept. Why offer the odds if you're not going to honor them. Clear cut excuse for you guys to confiscate funds and not payout.

I am still not sure what TOS that I broke! They keep repeating the same 'Sportsbook abuse' and he is in profit from Rollbit. This is literally all the explanation your support and Razer have given me so far!! I thought the goal is to be in profit? Or was I supposed to lose money with the site?

Really feel that I'm not going to get any further explanation from them on this matter. Please explain what the 'clear cut' sportsbook abuse is. It shouldn't be that difficult if you truly believe it is clear cut. Why is it ok to seize my account and funds? Really concerning from Rollbit here...

No Holy Darkness does not work for Rollbit, that is absurd. He has been helping my case and others against them for weeks now. He is a solid member of this community that looks at every case objectively and to throw the accusation that he works for them is outlandish.
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May 12, 2023, 03:40:18 AM
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and there are several rollbit paid staff in bitcointalk forum
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Really?

holydarkness tagged Rollbit negatively to catch their attention to handle some cases recently. Is it a thing a staff will ready to do? If they are staffs, they can sort it out internally with internal links.

You just stir a shit towards a person who wanted to help you.

Can you tell us the total amount $$ you deposited into your Rollbit account?
100$ usd
Really?

Deposit $100 and trade it to $20,000. Is it too good to be true?


who is on rollbit scam on side?
its is easy to find rollbit referral employee or idiot like you.

the fact is deposit 100$ and banned account 20000$ usd.
do not leave trash quote
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May 14, 2023, 01:03:45 PM
Last edit: May 15, 2023, 02:34:33 AM by Stakemeharder
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I still have not got a response from Rollbit on this matter that explains what I actually did wrong. I have showed the evidence and all possible bets before my account is permanently  banned with 10.2k in there.

They don't tell me what TOS I broke and value betting is now a cause of account being closed and funds taken? Never heard of that before.

This has become a bit ridiculous with over a month now of them repeating that 'I am in profit so I didn't lose anything'. 'Sportsbook abuse'...

Why can't they just have a mediation or explain what I broke in their TOS? Would make this a lot easier for everyone...

Edit: Spelling mistake
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I still have not got a response from Rollbit on this matter that explains what I actually did wrong. I have showed the evidence and all possible bets before my account is permanently  banned with 10.2k in there.

They don't tell me what TOS I broke and value betting is now a cause of account being closed and funds taken? Never heard of that before.

This has become a bit ridiculous with over a month now of them repeating that 'I am in profit so I didn't lose anything'. 'Sportsbook abuse'...

Why can't they just have a mediation or explain what I broke in their TOS? Would make this a lot easier for everyone...

Edit: Spelling mistake

you got same case like me. my account is permanently banned with 20000$ in there.
just report scam rollbit site to Casino Guru.
i'll report all casino and crypto community as possbile as i can.( twitter,reddit,facebook,youtube )


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I was hoping some people in the community have any insight on Mediation for this matter? I was recommended Casino guru, ask gamblers and a few others but don't think they accept sportsbook cases from my research. Also, Rollbit is not on most of them, nor am I aware of an ADR platform that they use.

Any leads are helpful as I consider this case to still be open.
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May 16, 2023, 10:14:40 AM
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I was hoping some people in the community have any insight on Mediation for this matter? I was recommended Casino guru, ask gamblers and a few others but don't think they accept sportsbook cases from my research. Also, Rollbit is not on most of them, nor am I aware of an ADR platform that they use.

Any leads are helpful as I consider this case to still be open.

Currently there were no information about an ADR that hosted Rollbit that also intermediating sportbetting related issues. Several members have asked about it and no answer so far, which could means they probably not on any. As you seems to be on a deadend and would take any leads, only one that I can offer is perhaps asking their licensor to handle your dispute. Rollbit is with GamingCuracao. Mind that their findings will be considered as a final says and it could take weeks for them to clear the issue.

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May 17, 2023, 07:57:14 AM
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Hey there,

Had some DMs about not replying to this thread.

Please find our response earlier in the thread here.

This was a case of clear-cut Sportsbook abuse, identified by our provider Betby. We explained the same to OP via our on-site support.

To reiterate for anyone new here, the player is in profit.

Thanks,
Razer

Hi Razer,

I have sent over 5 emails to support without any response. Can you please help me understand what I did wrong and what Terms I broke? So far the explanations I have received are vague and don't offer any insight.

None of your staff have answered what the final verdict is on my funds. According to your sports policy, you can withhold funds up to 31 days and this has now passed.

Thank you and look forward to your response.
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May 23, 2023, 09:31:08 AM
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Does anyone in the community think I will get an actual explanation from Rollbit on this? Or will I have to go to the license holder to make any progress? I'm trying all forms of mediation before doing so as per their guidelines.

Quite frustrating thus far getting a response from them, including their support team (Still no reply). Feel like it has been handled quite poorly on their side.

Thanks everyone.
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May 24, 2023, 12:22:15 PM
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As for OP, may I know what amount you deposited on rollbit?

I don't have the total I deposited and withdrew on hand, but if I were to guess I was in profit. But profit not from the value betting at all.

First and foremost I appreciate the forum and community for giving me a space to explain my side and what has happened. The goal is for me to be transparent and show the evidence I have that I was not abusing. Never in my life would I think betting for value is considered abusive when they put odds up for players, but anyway here we are.

I have some points I want to address down below to give more perspective.

1. As I stated before, It is completely ok for me to lose 5k or 2k on bets at 1.003 odds but when they are winning, then it becomes abuse? I have lost plenty of bets at these low odds but Rollbit is fine when that happens.

Link to more bets that lost - https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img923/2990/kLkbAW.jpg

This lost bet was for 3k on 1.003 odds^. If it wins, I'm abusing, but if it loses it is ok...

2. This 'value betting' was not all the betting that I did nor did it make up most of winnings! Majority of my bets and wins were at higher odds for LOL, Dota and other sports such as UFC, Basketball. Two days prior to my account being banned I was betting on 1.3-2.5 odds for Dota and made over 3k back that I lost when I lost some bets on 1.003 odds (The above bet). Bet history would PROVE that as well as the photos that I can show you here.  


Links to my bets recently with various odds -

https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img922/5097/a4buEh.jpg
https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img923/245/k8FQEU.jpg
https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img924/8172/4McWUZ.jpg
https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img922/1237/Kdwa1W.jpg

As you can see, I was betting on such a variety of sports and odds with a lot of those winnings coming from this. I can post more of my bet history if that would help my case too... I want to establish that I am not just winning bets on one particular thing. Those wins above are over 3k just there!

3. With their remark that 'because I am in profit is enough to keep funds' doesn't make sense. Saying this is 'Pretty standard sportsbook abuse case', I have not heard of anyone getting banned and funds locked for what I was betting on.

4. They stated multiple times that 'The rest of the account's funds are from sportsbook abuse rewards'. I completely disagree with this statement as I have place bets on a variety of sports and odds that added up to around 19.6k in rewards. The first 5 months of me using rollbit and betting, it was NEVER on low odds or value betting. Mainly just me and my dumb bets hoping stuff would hit. Does that mean I was abusing it then as well? With this logic, 60% of my bets were deemed abusive (Still don't get why it's considered abuse) as my account has 10.2k in it plus a Rollbot worth over 1.5k, so 11.7k in value.

Link to my rewards as of April 9th - https://imagizer. imageshack. com/img923/6522/hnmuXH.jpg

5. I have NFT's and a Rollbot in the account, but Rollbit seem content to keep these?

6. Why is it considered abuse if I didn't break any terms of service? I firmly believe what I was doing is above board. If Rollbit wants to put requirements on the odds to earn rakeback on, then that is on their side, not mine. Value betting is not a reason to suspend an account and take winnings!

What do I have to do in order to get my funds returned to me?  I would like some more clarity on this from Rollbit...

Thanks everyone - much love.

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hello bro, you don't need to explain, you didn't abuse anything
just stay away from scam site. just spread your story about rollbit scam
i also didn't get 20k usd$ funds about 3 weeeks ago
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