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April 22, 2023, 06:56:25 PM
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I think the current AI are depending too much on human inputs to determine outcomes on Sport bets. The data that it refers to are most probably Sport predictions that are posted online. So the same rule applies to AI that are are also applied to computers and code, namely : "Garbage in.... garbage out"

What is the point of ChatGPT standing on its own if the findings it posts are derived from user input online? If I require sports predictions on the outcome of a match, I can simply look it up online or look at previous results. Its work is very similar to the speculative analysis we see in cryptocurrencies and sports predictions.

If you have used ChatGPT, the old and free version, you need to understand that it provides outdated information since the data it has is already outdated and it doesn't have access to any data that is recent, and for that feature, you will need to buy their subscription which will provide you access to the latest version of ChatGPT called GPT-4.

I believe this is why it provided the incorrect response to the question. The response was completely off-topic and failed to highlight anything significant from the actual clubs that deserve to be rated this season. Only Manchester City has received the right recognition for their play this season, and they are also expected to win the league. Every other point it brings up is irrelevant.

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April 22, 2023, 09:13:33 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2023, 09:39:39 PM by Saint-loup
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If I'm not mistaken, the AI is a bit stupid in this case and anything that has anything to do with anything after the end of 2021, because it has data that only goes back to that period. At the moment when the AI is "online" in the sense that it has all possible data, then it will probably be able to give much more accurate and precise answers.

This could be a problem for bookmakers, because players will have a very good tool for analyzing matches, and thus a greater chance of winning.
Actually the new version of Bing is integrating the ChatGPT technology, but you can only access it through the Microsoft browser, MS Edge.
If you ask the same question to this tool "Which football club do you think will win the premier league this year and why ?", you will get a very different answer than the one of the OP, way more accurate and up to date actually. But if you look at the arguments, you will see it is still far from being able to beat any serious bookmaker for now though.


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April 22, 2023, 09:29:59 PM
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Asking an AI for future outcome of a sports not to mention a league with different teams is something like you should not trust. It sounds like bias to me while in the or i say, stupid idea, and should not be relied. While the AI gave information about teams and their achievements yet it doesnt help. So better to being updated on the league an come up a analytical decision for future bet.
AI can help though to summarize all the important details of the team where you can use to help you analyze what’s the advantage of every team, but purely relying on this suggestion is too risky. AI predicting the future might be a big concern for many, if you want to save some money start doing your own analysis, with this you can attract more positive details and you can decide on where to bet, usually you start doing this during the finals which can help to lessen the scope of your analysis.

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April 23, 2023, 03:09:10 PM
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I think the current AI are depending too much on human inputs to determine outcomes on Sport bets. The data that it refers to are most probably Sport predictions that are posted online. So the same rule applies to AI that are are also applied to computers and code, namely : "Garbage in.... garbage out"

You can test this by writing a bunch of bogus predictions and testing if the AI are collecting that so-called "data" and using it to make predictions. I tired ChatGPT Dice strategies and they all failed.  Grin Grin Grin
Lol, did you seriously use your money to try out strategies provided by ChatGPT in gambling? That is not a good thing to do knowing that an AI can obviously not be able to provide accurate strategies or betting patterns for gambling. Gambling is a game of luck and chance and AI models use data to provide answers, how in the world can ChatGPT be right for accurately providing a gambling strategy?

You said yourself that these AI models are just like computers and code where you get an output based on the input you've given, so AI can basically not do anything on their own since they don't have a brain but only have knowledge gained through data.

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April 23, 2023, 03:31:48 PM
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So what are your thoughts on this, do you agree with ChatGPT or not??
@CryptoHeadlineNews, Looks like I have to point out a few things regarding ChatGPT and Gambling.

The following example will happen if you continue to rely on ChatGPT as your football/sports bet in the future.

* Don't bet with ChatGPT – study shows language AIs often make irrational decisions.
* Don't Play Poker With ChatGPT.

ChatGPT is like people asking and asking to graves or dreams, about lottery numbers, if today what chatGPT says is true, it's just a coincidence, but if you ask the second, third, and so on you're out of luck again, i sure of that.

Don't gamble with ChatGPT, it's an inanimate object, Robots don't know anything, ChatGPT only knows what humans have done, it's a program.

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April 23, 2023, 04:09:12 PM
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I think the current AI are depending too much on human inputs to determine outcomes on Sport bets. The data that it refers to are most probably Sport predictions that are posted online. So the same rule applies to AI that are are also applied to computers and code, namely : "Garbage in.... garbage out"

You can test this by writing a bunch of bogus predictions and testing if the AI are collecting that so-called "data" and using it to make predictions. I tired ChatGPT Dice strategies and they all failed.  Grin Grin Grin
Lol, did you seriously use your money to try out strategies provided by ChatGPT in gambling? That is not a good thing to do knowing that an AI can obviously not be able to provide accurate strategies or betting patterns for gambling. Gambling is a game of luck and chance and AI models use data to provide answers, how in the world can ChatGPT be right for accurately providing a gambling strategy?

You said yourself that these AI models are just like computers and code where you get an output based on the input you've given, so AI can basically not do anything on their own since they don't have a brain but only have knowledge gained through data.
AI today is unbelievably good and these AI improved amazingly fast that it become the current trend even outside crypto. There are bunch of AI not just ChatGPT and those AI is particularly use on different use case. I wouldn't be shocked if there would be an AI that will be launched for predictions. AI today is so powerful and can be use for so many things. I believe that if you ask ChatGPT on gambling advises, It would basically show you the basics strategies that can be found in the internet as it is the data that is fed to them. Sooner or later as we progress in developing AI, I'm sure that there will be developers who will make an AI for gambling. AI has a self learning technology in it that's why it's not impossible that they can think about your commands in the future.
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April 23, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
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You said yourself that these AI models are just like computers and code where you get an output based on the input you've given, so AI can basically not do anything on their own since they don't have a brain but only have knowledge gained through data.
Yes, they learn through data gathering and that's what they're applying to themselves when something is specifically asked on them.

But then, what people have seen is that the information or data that they've gathered is that from last year. So, technically, yes they've learned a lot from those but then you can't solely rely on it.

You're just gonna have problem if you think that chatgpt is going to have some predictions about the premier league.

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April 23, 2023, 06:50:59 PM
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more than this hype artfully generated by the mass media, are we really sure that AI is CURRENTLY so "powerful" and able to work like "miracles" in any field?
in my opinion, we are all entrusting too much hope to this technology without realizing the actual limits and the real use that can be made of it.

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April 23, 2023, 08:41:27 PM
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more than this hype artfully generated by the mass media, are we really sure that AI is CURRENTLY so "powerful" and able to work like "miracles" in any field?
in my opinion, we are all entrusting too much hope to this technology without realizing the actual limits and the real use that can be made of it.

I believe it is, in fact,AI-made image wins at Sony World Photography Awards

There are fields of interest where they are ruling now and this is just one of them, soon we will have movie scripts done by AI and it could be better, the possibilities are there, in gambling and sports betting it may not be now, but these AI are getting better and they are similar to what we've seen in the Terminator movie series, they upgrade and always have a new version, this is quite scary.

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 #90

I think the current AI are depending too much on human inputs to determine outcomes on Sport bets. The data that it refers to are most probably Sport predictions that are posted online. So the same rule applies to AI that are are also applied to computers and code, namely : "Garbage in.... garbage out"

You can test this by writing a bunch of bogus predictions and testing if the AI are collecting that so-called "data" and using it to make predictions. I tired ChatGPT Dice strategies and they all failed.  Grin Grin Grin
Lol, did you seriously use your money to try out strategies provided by ChatGPT in gambling? That is not a good thing to do knowing that an AI can obviously not be able to provide accurate strategies or betting patterns for gambling. Gambling is a game of luck and chance and AI models use data to provide answers, how in the world can ChatGPT be right for accurately providing a gambling strategy?

You said yourself that these AI models are just like computers and code where you get an output based on the input you've given, so AI can basically not do anything on their own since they don't have a brain but only have knowledge gained through data.
AI today is unbelievably good and these AI improved amazingly fast that it become the current trend even outside crypto. There are bunch of AI not just ChatGPT and those AI is particularly use on different use case. I wouldn't be shocked if there would be an AI that will be launched for predictions. AI today is so powerful and can be use for so many things. I believe that if you ask ChatGPT on gambling advises, It would basically show you the basics strategies that can be found in the internet as it is the data that is fed to them. Sooner or later as we progress in developing AI, I'm sure that there will be developers who will make an AI for gambling. AI has a self learning technology in it that's why it's not impossible that they can think about your commands in the future.
AI has advanced greatly and is rapidly progressing. Seeing all it's capable of doing is mind blowing; it's almost as if the applications are limitless. AI is a game-changer in so many different fields, from stock market forecasting to medical diagnosis.

Sure, AI can fill us in on the fundamentals of gambling strategy, but it can do so much more for the gambling industry than that. Gambling might benefit greatly from AI's superior prediction abilities and unique insights made possible by the system's superior self-learning technology.

The way things are going, it won't be long before there is AI developed with the express purpose of aiding gamblers. That has the potential to completely alter the game and make conditions much more pleasant and equitable for all players.

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So what are your thoughts on this, do you agree with ChatGPT or not??
That looks funny, I don't know why until today people still believe AI more than his feeling. We know AI is created by humans where the program and code they made from data news, history, and Wikipedia. When we ask who the winner is, the AI will search 1st from the news and history the club which I think it doesn't need to believe if AI gets news from the Internet. Maybe I will believe AI if they get the data from a time machine, or from a black hole.

I even believe the analyzed user here than AI, because several posters here I look is have technical analysis to calculate the squad, team strategy, and formation club.

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So what are your thoughts on this, do you agree with ChatGPT or not??
That looks funny, I don't know why until today people still believe AI more than his feeling. We know AI is created by humans where the program and code they made from data news, history, and Wikipedia. When we ask who the winner is, the AI will search 1st from the news and history the club which I think it doesn't need to believe if AI gets news from the Internet. Maybe I will believe AI if they get the data from a time machine, or from a black hole.

I even believe the analyzed user here than AI, because several posters here I look is have technical analysis to calculate the squad, team strategy, and formation club.
the reason someone still trusts AI compared to the predictions of human analysis, is because now AI is becoming a trend in the world of gambling which causes the gambler's mindset to think that AI can predict correctly.
even though for people who realize that this AI will obviously never be perfect because it was created by humans with various codes that have been set.

like myself until now I have never used AI to predict a match and prefer to predict with independent analysis, that is much better for me.

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April 24, 2023, 12:56:15 PM
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the reason someone still trusts AI compared to the predictions of human analysis, is because now AI is becoming a trend in the world of gambling which causes the gambler's mindset to think that AI can predict correctly.
even though for people who realize that this AI will obviously never be perfect because it was created by humans with various codes that have been set.

like myself until now I have never used AI to predict a match and prefer to predict with independent analysis, that is much better for me.
Maybe you can try to make your own prediction first and if you have predicting like 5-10 matches with your own analysis, then you can try to predict those matches using ChatGPT. Then you can calculate how good is the ChatGPT and your own prediction, if ChatGPT's prediction show better result then it's mean ChatGPT have beat you Cheesy

AI will never be perfect, but with many development and years, I believe AI will be almost completely perfect in the future.

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April 24, 2023, 12:56:50 PM
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the reason someone still trusts AI compared to the predictions of human analysis, is because now AI is becoming a trend in the world of gambling which causes the gambler's mindset to think that AI can predict correctly.
even though for people who realize that this AI will obviously never be perfect because it was created by humans with various codes that have been set.
It is on the trend and everyone is amazed at its capacity and ability to say anything asked into it. But then, we have the thought that gambling and its result can't be done and we all can guess. So just as AI's capacity is based on its gathered info, there can be some mismatch and unknown ideas that it can say.

like myself until now I have never used AI to predict a match and prefer to predict with independent analysis, that is much better for me.
You can try but I doubt that you'll ever be satisfied with its answers. You may have a try and then get to read what it's gotta say but there will be some doubts on your end because as humans, we still know better in terms of sports and gambling.

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April 24, 2023, 07:52:51 PM
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Stupid answer.



Unbelievable that ChatGPT did not mention Erling Haaland when mentioning some Manchester City players as world class players.

I am surprised not to see Arsenal among. Who is Manchester United and Liverpool this season when talking about Arsenal to win the league? The clubs are not just to be compared with Arsenal. Only Manchester City is mainly competing with Arsenal.

Who to win 2022/2023 EPL: Arsenal or Manchester City.
ChatGPT had made it so clear that their knowledge ends at 2021, so anything you’re asking the AI, it cannot give you any info beyond 2021 as it has been programmed to do.

So what the AI bot has just given is a summary of what everyone would analyze dating back at 2021.

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Actually the new version of Bing is integrating the ChatGPT technology, but you can only access it through the Microsoft browser, MS Edge.
If you ask the same question to this tool "Which football club do you think will win the premier league this year and why ?", you will get a very different answer than the one of the OP, way more accurate and up to date actually. But if you look at the arguments, you will see it is still far from being able to beat any serious bookmaker for now though.
I find this to be much more accurate and reasonable than the response from ChatGPT given by the OP. The reason for that is simply because Bing's artificial intelligence model probably has access to the internet and to all the latest data available out there, while the free version of ChatGPT has limited and outdated information.

I've barely used Bing's AI model but from this, it seems to provide better responses than the free version of ChatGPT and it will probably gain a lot of popularity once it is released for the whole public, I think it's currently only available to those who opted in for early access.

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April 26, 2023, 06:40:22 PM
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Actually the new version of Bing is integrating the ChatGPT technology, but you can only access it through the Microsoft browser, MS Edge.
If you ask the same question to this tool "Which football club do you think will win the premier league this year and why ?", you will get a very different answer than the one of the OP, way more accurate and up to date actually. But if you look at the arguments, you will see it is still far from being able to beat any serious bookmaker for now though.



This is quite impressive to see this answer given by the new version of Bing ChatGPT, as I could see a huge difference from the normal ChatGPT which I used in this thread, as Bing seems to give a more precise and accurate data analysis with reference to the current stand and points of each of the top teams of the premier league this season. But the only similarity I could observe is the fact that both analysis made a huge emphasis on "Liverpool" being a strong contender liken to win despite Liverpool being in 7th position on the premier league table with 50 points, (i.e a huge gap difference of 25 points from the leading team "Arsenal).

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April 26, 2023, 08:59:35 PM
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more than this hype artfully generated by the mass media, are we really sure that AI is CURRENTLY so "powerful" and able to work like "miracles" in any field?
in my opinion, we are all entrusting too much hope to this technology without realizing the actual limits and the real use that can be made of it.

I fully agree with you. once again I will say, that I have never even tried this artificial intelligence technology. So, I can't assume too much about ChatGPT. it's just that, impressed, that this artificial intelligence technology will be able to answer anything including seeing the future. well, what's the difference between prediction and seeing the future.

If, ChatGPT is able to accurately predict a sports match, why don't we try it for something else. for example, we are engaged in the crypto/bitcoin industry, is it possible, ChatGPT can predict when the market is bullish or bearish and isn't this more profitable than gambling predictions. So in conclusion, I agree with what you said. that this is the hype that is generated by the mass media, and is accepted by the wider community without trying to find out what exactly the function of this artificial intelligence technology is.

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April 26, 2023, 10:32:03 PM
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No I sure as shit don't, nor would I agree with ChapGPT on any sort of gambling advice, why should I?  It still amazes me that so many people really think that ChatGPT is legitimate Artificial Intelligence.  Legitimate Artificial Intelligence is AGI/Artificial General Intelligence.  This is what true AI is.  This is why AI becomes self learning/smart that the humans whom built it. 

Right now ChatGPT is producing any artificial data, it's all coming from man-made databases as well as it included built in man made biases.

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April 26, 2023, 10:54:53 PM
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Chat GPT which is going to put you in a very confusing situation at present. This chat GPT will never tell you anything new on its own. Various discussions by people this chat GPT reveals to you. I saw an answer to a new question that people have never posted before that chat can never publish GPT. So trusting this chat gpt sounds very foolish nowadays. And chat GPT in particular can never plan the future. If you prefer chat gpt to gambling section then you still live in stupid state. Chat GPT can never predict the jus section. And especially the gambling platform is a completely luck based platform. Here people have to participate by thinking independently.
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