FORTUNEJACK.COM | Ongoing lawsuit, 120k usd stolen | Shady practices

[Yogee]

[....] but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op.

The question is if he's even allowed to talk about the specifics of the case? I don't think the parties involved are allowed to share that while the case is ongoing but the OP is free to correct me on this.

[....]
But I agree with Hispo also that OP should provide more proof to determine who is right.

Who would determine? Keep in mind that the lawsuit is ongoing.


I do agree with what others have said about the purpose of opening this thread. Why not just lock this for now and open once you've won the case or have entered into a favorable settlement?

[swogerino]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them,people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.We are hearing a lot of such stories and the good news is that the casinos who choose to pay and behave correctly to their user base in the end will be the big winners as they will get more and more players and there is the house edge in place there to make the casino profit in the long term.Any casino found not respecting winnings that are valid should be avoided.

[KiaKia]

FortuneJack is a big old casino with high reputation I heard, how true is this rumour because it's still a rumor rights, I do some research online and I can't find a single piece of news about this scam thing, I use Reddit and others, same result.

Also, I see that OP has a few red trusts and it's about someone paying up to ruin another online casino's reputation, I've read about this on the forum before and such behavior should be dealt with, to me fortune jack is clean and I won't believe this news until proven otherwise. For now, I rest this case.

Op if you don't have proof pls do lock this thread until you do, there is no point discussing this with no proof.

[PaperWallet]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? And for sure I won't because some people here ask lol.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

Not like you owe it to any body on this forum, but its up to you to provide any evidence you have, to prove that FortuneJack has an ongoing lawsuit, maybe by you or someone you know.

[PaperWallet]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

If someone says this is FUD, then he should be asking FortuneJack if this is true or not beforehand. Me personally I've never lied here and never called anybody a liar in vain.

So what even if their business suffers, it's for the greater good of everyone else. Some people here said they want to discover for themselves so go ahead and ask. They won't be ignoring their campaign managers are they?

And I am not trying to save every customer of FortuneJack. We've seen casinos run away from their license countries before. Just the ones who believe me and deserve it. For me, no problem, it's going to be their regulator who will pay if that would be the case.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any?

Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers.

If someone says this is FUD, then he should be asking FortuneJack if this is true or not beforehand. Me personally I've never lied here and never called anybody a liar in vain.

So what even if their business suffers, it's for the greater good of everyone else. Some people here said they want to discover for themselves so go ahead and ask. They won't be ignoring their campaign managers are they?

And I am not trying to save every customer of FortuneJack. We've seen casinos run away from their license countries before, just the ones who believe me and deserve it. For me, no problem, it's going to be their regulator who will pay.

What ever is happening to any casino has nothing to do with the user managing their campaign.
The campaign manager is only providing a service which he or she is hired and paid to provide, how the casino itself is being managed, the decisions that are being taken, things that are implemented or not implemented, is non the campaign managers business..

Except in some rare occasions where we've seen some campaign managers become a member of the casino's board of directors, admin or so.

So if like you said, it happens that FortuneJack is really in trouble, and for some reasons, end up failing to solve the problem, the campaign manager can only close the campaign and move on with other campaigns he is currently managing, or some other new ones coming.

[dimonstration]

Of course...

But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? And for sure I won't because some people here ask lol.

What’s the sense of creating this thread and remain open for discussion if you don’t have any intention to share more info. Asking Fortunejack about details for the topic you started is dumb and absurd. You are just using this thread to gain sympathy and use people that will believe you to question FJ integrity for a chance that they will reach you for settlement.


Don’t feed this troll. His previous statement confirms that he is just trolling FJ for his case that he can’t win. Lawsuit? Cmon.

[PaperWallet]

You are just using this thread to gain sympathy and use people that will believe you to question FJ integrity for a chance that they will reach you for settlement.

Lol really, please have sympathy, please give me a chance.

I've already said it, and I'm not a shitposter: I don't settle anything with thieves. They'll have to pay, willingly or unwillingly, all my winnings, at the same value they were on the day I won, + interest rate + legal fees, at least.

[notblox1]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

[dezoel]

Op since you have created Scam Accusation thread in this sub-board [ulr]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0]Scam Accusations[/url], there was no need for the creation of second thread on the same issue. That would be a thread within a thread, that is when you create a thread twice or more on the same purpose. Just like a case of double jeopardy in the court if law.

I think there is no issue in creating a discussion thread for something that might be a serious issue for the general public to know, and most people visit this sub-board more than the Reputation board, so such discussions can enlighten more people about everything that's going on. That being said, there is basically a difference between an accusation and a discussion on the same topic.

I checked the accusation thread, and I believe he has got evidence for what he is discussing here, and the matter is pretty serious. Those who gamble at the platform should really look this up and do their due diligence.

[iv4n]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

[Desmong]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0


And for those who clicked on this topic, I'll give you a bonus, that I think nobody else on the internet can give you, and that could save you some cheating from online casinos (since I've got first hand information).

This post though is about my own analysis and opinion on how things could go forward from here, not a certainty.

During last year, Casinos based in Curacao (like FortuneJack) have been arguing in the court of appeal that they don't have to pay any winnings for their customers, since they think the law cannot enforce anyone to pay gambling winnings (true story, coming from "casinos"). The decision of the court of appeal has been that yes they are organisations that have to pay winnings for the games they decide to offer.

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.


Edit: For the people posting here, saying this is FUD, go ask FortuneJack if no legal procedure is going against them. If not, ask them if they paid me already or not (with interest for being about 2 years late on payment). I am not giving any evidence, nor am I giving any details.

Edit 22/04/23: I am not trusting anyone on this forum to give them more details or evidence in private message, so please don't ask. I do not intend to convince most people here, since experience shows they're mostly dishonest. It's for those who followed me here for some time and know I pretty much like the truth, and for those who have some common sense reading the link of my scam accusation above.

This is really sad I hope everything is going to be resume soon. Well since you have decided that you will it give any evidence, no problem but everyone should ensure safety and caution on this particular case if it's eventually a truth. We need to be careful most time about how e gamble and I tend to make money from cryptocurrency casinos. We need to minimize our risks to profits.

[Fatunad]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

There's no such thing about perfect casinos on which we know that they might have been still popular or known nowadays but there are really issues or features or complaints which it makes people do make
irk and having that discouragement on playing on the site further. Yes, we arent that dumb not to distinguish between issues and some possible false whatsoever correlated which would really be destroying out their reputation but we know that there's something called a border line which on the time we do say its enough then we would really be cutting off then and would find another one.

Good thing that we do have on this market is that we do have lots or tons of options we could choose on, on which we could really be able to find another casinos to play if ever that old one
isnt really that giving that kind of confidence on staying on. When in talks about FJ reputation then i do remember those old years where they are really that one of the most
known and trusted. I dont know with the recent issues but if it seems been proven then it is really that something that they need to cleared upon.

[PaperWallet]

I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...

Depends on how you define "a scam". If it's an organisation that always scams, of course not, FortuneJack is not a scam. If a scammer is someone who sometimes scams, sometimes not, then yes they're a scam. But for most people I have to agree they're not a scam yet.

[kotajikikox]

But there is one more thing: The courts are not the ones who run these casinos. So if they can't steal users funds anymore by simply closing accounts, common sense says they'll be finding new ways to cheat customers.... So watch out to play only provably fair (that you actually understand) games and live games where you can actually verify you're not being cheated.

I had my history with fortunejack and they have some strange policies with their legal team that resulted in confiscating of my coins.
They recently sent me last email saying that my account will be closed because of inactivity after I didnt want to perform kyc verification.
It was my choice to stop using and recommending them, and I accepted my loses, but I would be real pissed if that amount was 120k.
I am not saying fj is a scam, but there are much better casinos around.

That would be really pissing having 120k loss just because of some issues arise and the player and site did not come to agreement .
but even before FJ is facing so many cases here in forum (if I remember it correct this is before they ended and relaunch their Signature campaign)
and just recently that here it is again some problem is being up here in forum.
still hoping that OP will resolve this case and the team will answer every details here just like how they are responding back in the years.

[Kakmakr]

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label. 

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

[piebeyb]

FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label. 

You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?

I'm also still waiting for the latest news about this problem and case, I'm also a FortuneJack user for a long time and I've never even had a problem with them, the withdrawal process is done quickly and even their service support is also very responsive, but here I don't want to find out who is right since the OP also provided detailed screenshots of valid proof, no fortunejack team has come to this thread yet to respond and I hope this issue can be resolved as well so it doesn't drag on too late.

So far the OP has only made edits to the thread to share the progress of this case as of date, I have also had an eye on it and haven't played fortunejack yet as I'm still comfortable playing on Stake.com for now, the OP's account is also flagged as a scam, so it's a bit difficult trusting who is right here, let's see the final result

[PaperWallet]

What ever is happening to any casino has nothing to do with the user managing their campaign.
The campaign manager is only providing a service which he or she is hired and paid to provide, how the casino itself is being managed, the decisions that are being taken, things that are implemented or not implemented, is non the campaign managers business..

I understand. It's not in the sense that this is their job to do that, their job is only to do what they are paid for I guess, and that is to promote them.

Although not all people work the same way. Some as an example have some consciousness and reputation that they don't like promoting bad actors for money. And since many here were saying what I claim is false, I suggest that the members of the community who are campaign managers might want to ask FortuneJack to see if it's true or not. Just a suggestion. The problem is FortuneJack won't be able to lie since they can't hide it. It happened before once though when they deleted my betting history thinking I haven't taken any evidence.

[mak013]

I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.