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May 10, 2023, 02:03:09 PM |
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The crazy part about the stock market is every young guy thinks he is going to get in and trade himself a couple % in profits per day and be rich in a year. It just doesn’t work like that. Those people get bled dry. Unfortunately, it takes age and wisdom to see that being debt free and slowly building a portfolio of dependable companies or index funds is truly the way to reach financial freedom. Slow and steady…
This is what most young generations believe when they first enter stock market not knowing they will not only need experience, they also need patience and a lot of study in order to build their own portfolio. The problem about this is that, there are some who only initiates recommendation towards new investors but won't bother to teach them what is actually needed but instead, they will teach them unnecessary information or worse is that they will teach them or encourage them to invest what their mentors were investing, the same as what happened on crypto industry.
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May 10, 2023, 04:53:54 PM |
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Many times retail investors invest in stock market without proper information. Investing money without understanding the stock market is the biggest mistake because they lose more money. Stock markets are volatile in the short term but in the long term they offer low risk and overall returns. Holding stocks for a long period of time is more likely to give you extraordinary returns. Hence, it is better to invest in stocks with a long-term view rather than a short-term view. It is a good idea to lock in money that you will not need in the near future. Thus if you sell stocks when the price is low you may lose money in the beginning but see the stocks over the years.
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May 10, 2023, 05:09:56 PM |
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Really why I hate stock brokers in general. To me they are all licensed scammers, legally allowed to steal money from you while you toil away until you die because what they're doing is apparently good for the economy. I wouldn't let them near my money if my life depended on it. As for the people that lost their money to these brokers, it is indeed true that the market is cyclical and there will be times when the market will be merciful to you and your investment. But make no mistake. As soon as you see the opportunity to liquidate your assets and jumpship from your stock holdings that they invest for you, do it. You can always invest in stocks on your own without their "expert guidance" anyway. So cut the middleman, learn the charts, and invest on it yourself.
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May 10, 2023, 07:04:08 PM |
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich. I told broker this is snake oil, and it is over. He respond it is not, you see, everybody too is doing this shady business, everybody doing it, you know, ape together ape is strong, when ape is strong, police is weak, law enforcement is weak, they can't fight the ape when ape together. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) One of the most basic things we must do when buying something is to never rely 100% on the opinion of the ones that are selling us something, it is obvious they are always going to promote their product as being the very best and even if it is not then they will claim that soon enough everything will fix itself, the truth is that most of the money flows from the poorer to the richer, this is the model that has been the dominant one for the past decades, so anyone thinking they can use the stock market to increase their retirement fund will receive a nasty surprise when they finally discover this is not going to be the case and that their money is now on the pockets of the richest persons around the world.
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May 10, 2023, 07:43:51 PM |
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There are risks in every investment. I think it is wrong to invest without your knowledge, especially with the suggestions of others. One should develop oneself and invest slowly and steadily. Investments made by taking out loans generally yielded poor results. The dream of getting rich quick misleads everyone. Especially when investing, risks should be calculated and acted accordingly. The situation of reaching the things such as house and car mentioned in the subject does not usually occur. Because there are many stages when investing. One of these stages is risks.
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May 11, 2023, 11:04:30 AM |
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Really why I hate stock brokers in general. To me they are all licensed scammers, legally allowed to steal money from you while you toil away until you die because what they're doing is apparently good for the economy. I wouldn't let them near my money if my life depended on it. As for the people that lost their money to these brokers, it is indeed true that the market is cyclical and there will be times when the market will be merciful to you and your investment. But make no mistake. As soon as you see the opportunity to liquidate your assets and jumpship from your stock holdings that they invest for you, do it. You can always invest in stocks on your own without their "expert guidance" anyway. So cut the middleman, learn the charts, and invest on it yourself.
I would say "hate" is a strong word considering what they do, but I agree that they are definitely shady and doing something terrible. Like regardless if you win or lose money, they win money and that is why they keep churning away their profit machine. They can help you buy whatever, all of your money could be gone, all of your life's work could be gone, and they end up with their profit one way or another. Just one regulation would solve this all, in no trade they could make a profit from you buying anything, zero money for buying something, they could only profit if you sell and make a profit. They will pressure you to sell at that point, so if the price keeps going up within first month of you selling, then they forfeit their profit as well. So they only make profit if you buy something and sell it and it goes down. See if they still want to do that job.
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Aanuoluwatofunmi
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May 11, 2023, 11:26:29 AM |
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market
What else can you do than to take heart and make sure that you avoid any tendencies of reoccurrence, dealing with digital currency has it advantages and disadvantages ad when it comes like this, we have to embrace it as our fate provided that the person involved is not careless or only knows little about stock marketing experience, we have most of the consequences we received to be attributed to our own shortfalls from our inability to identify them before striking, though it's a thing of profit or loss but we shouldn't accept opting in for the losses at all time than we gain in stock market.
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May 11, 2023, 11:49:25 AM |
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The stock market doesn't promise anyone to make a profit in the future. It's too risky, and you need to play the game well to succeed. Any promises of guaranteed profits from the stock market are fake, and I hope no one believes them.
Any investment you make in the stock market carries a significant risk and a person need to take control of the situation, be patient, and make wise choices. I believe there's no passive or stable income from the stock market, and that's unlikely to change in the future. It all depends on the market itself. If the world economy grows, then stock values will increase, but if it doesn't then you'll lose money. It's as simple as that
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May 11, 2023, 01:06:25 PM |
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich. I told broker this is snake oil, and it is over. He respond it is not, you see, everybody too is doing this shady business, everybody doing it, you know, ape together ape is strong, when ape is strong, police is weak, law enforcement is weak, they can't fight the ape when ape together. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Whenever I come across posts on social media about Forex profits and how it has transformed ordinary individuals into millionaires with lavish lifestyles, I can't help but laugh. I find it hard to believe that your friends were so easily swayed to invest borrowed money into a broker. Personally, I have yet to encounter a real-life Forex trader who flaunts their wealth. It seems that these individuals who constantly boast about their earnings and showcase their extravagant possessions are predominantly found on social media, it's peculiar how even crypto scammers, who engage in fraudulent activities, don't exhibit such overt displays of wealth. If the broker initiated a position without requiring a margin, there is a chance that they might be able to recover the money, but only if the market rebounds. However, if it was a margin trade, your friends should accept the loss outcome, prioritize repaying the loan through any means possible, and attempt to seek reimbursement from the person responsible. If their efforts to reclaim the funds are unsuccessful, it would be wise for them to move on because I doubt if the authorities would intervene in such cases, and pursuing legal action may prove difficult. This will also serve as a lesson for your friends, that attempting to take shortcuts in life often leads to big losses.
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Wong Gendheng
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May 11, 2023, 01:58:19 PM |
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I think as investors, of course we must be smart, never invest or enter the stock market but we don't know anything, the presence of the internet certainly makes any information easily we get, as long as we are actively searching, we will definitely meet, this certainly makes all business offers or investments make We must always be realistic.
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May 11, 2023, 02:25:26 PM Merited by fillippone (1) |
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When someone tells you those kinds of promises, you should start doubting already. They can't promise something they aren't sure about. I know it's their job to get more people to invest but in investing, nothing is sure in the future. It's not a guarantee that you'll achieve all those luxurious things they would say. I'm not against the stock market, it's still a good investment but you need to invest in those promising stocks.
Also, another thing, do not invest money that is too much for you. Don't invest the money you loaned cause it's not a guarantee you'd get profit, so how will you be able to pay your debt? Only invest what you can afford to lose, and if you have extra funds. If you're going to invest in the stock market, you should analyze the business or the company if you think they'll be able to thrive in the future and would survive for a long term.
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May 11, 2023, 03:40:40 PM |
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When someone tells you those kinds of promises, you should start doubting already. They can't promise something they aren't sure about. I know it's their job to get more people to invest but in investing, nothing is sure in the future. It's not a guarantee that you'll achieve all those luxurious things they would say. I'm not against the stock market, it's still a good investment but you need to invest in those promising stocks.
There is something that come with experience. Inexperience people make this kind of mistake to believe everything told. This is a reason for job seekers get to require some experience before they get the job they are looking for. As a new investor you can fall for all the sweet promise to get rich for even a little money invested. A lesson is that stock market investment is not the type to rush into for fast car, fast house like op is saying, you will give a long time to expect the stock to increase to good price and sell, you can invest for five years and above for it to grow and keeping the stock certificate away will help reduce tempted to sell.
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May 11, 2023, 06:53:08 PM |
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By just reading the first part, it's already shady that in investment everyone should be aware of that there's no guaranteed returns.
And if there's an investment that guarantees you a percentage or returns or greatly promises then you're actually going to see your own downfall there.
No refunds with that and it's either the broker took the money and ran away or he's actually saying true thing but no guarantees that the stocks that he has invested in will come back later. Don't get blinded by those words of professional traders as they say, no one can be better than the market.
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May 11, 2023, 10:58:22 PM |
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I think there is no wrong in investing in stocks as long as the market is legal and legit. I agree that often times market is cyclical just like the Bitcoin market where we often see the ups and downs of its prizes, long series of downtrend and eventually some sideways before breaking out to record series of uptrend. We have our own opinion about the market but we cannot have a successful argument against a successful trader, he will always give a sound advise and answer to our question. We have indeed our own opinion but it does not mean that we are always correct @OP. By just reading the first part, it's already shady that in investment everyone should be aware of that there's no guaranteed returns. True that but we have an option to make our investment to have a fruitful venture. We just need to study and learn the left and rights of that venture so that we can do right assessments and precautionary measure while we are on the venture. And if there's an investment that guarantees you a percentage or returns or greatly promises then you're actually going to see your own downfall there. There are some legit businesses that offers fixed reasonable monthly interest but those that promised the sky will surely fall under scams and ponzi schemes.
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May 12, 2023, 01:45:22 AM |
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As we know that the stock market is an investment that looks very promising, stock marketing usually carries out massive campaigns and looks very professional so that it promises big profits for investors, of course this can tempt anyone to enter the stock market, but we must be vigilant because the stock market is also a high risk investment, i have a friend who loses more than 50% of his money within a month.
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May 12, 2023, 02:08:47 AM |
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When someone decides to invest or trade, he must realize that the money can be lost there and never come back. But they also have the opportunity to make a profit so if they can buy at a low price, it is a delayed profit.
They must know that every investment has a risk so they need to know how to deal with the risk so that it doesn't become big. But most people will never want to know the risks because they are already lulled by the benefits they can get.
And it has happened to many people, so they lose their money in investing. Now is a good time to start investing but we should analyze before deciding. And always remember that you only use the money you can afford so that if you experience a loss, your loss will not be big.
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May 12, 2023, 03:16:52 AM |
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Remember, any kind of investment is always carrying a risk.
Investing in stock or precious metal you bought on a centralized site will always have a risk of centralization, it's either the business is shady, the site get hacked etc. Investing in physical precious metal has a risk of getting robbed because it's impossible to hide it from anyone else. If you invest in Bitcoin, you can avoid the risk I mentioned before, but it has a risk of lose access to your wallet or someone you trust are betray you.
It is true that stock investment is centralized, but it has existed for hundreds of years, it cannot be said to be a shady business. I know we are on the bitcoin forum, bitcoin has the upper hand here, but there is no need to vilify other financial markets because they exist before us and are many times bigger than us. Everything is risky, there is no such thing as low risk and high return, if there is I am 100% sure it is a scam. Apart from the risk of losing wallet access when investing in bitcoin, we can't be sure about the future of bitcoin, it can't be safer than gold, that's for sure.
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May 12, 2023, 03:41:16 AM |
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market
They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund?
Nothing because the scenario you paint is simply false. No one guarantees you anything when investing in the stock market, today with the information that is available you are responsible for your decision making. If someone has lost all his money in the stock market is that he is quite stupid to be honest, because it means that he has not followed the basic principles of investment, such as diversifying, and has bet everything on a fancy low cap company like the one who bets everything on a fancy shitcoin. On the other hand, many people who complain about how much the stock market has gone down are not complaining about how much it has gone up. I have been investing in the S&P 500 for 10 to 15 years. Last year my investment went down, but the total return since I started investing is clearly positive, and that the doomsayers and whiners don't usually tell. So whoever loses money in the stock market, well, tough shit.
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May 12, 2023, 03:56:18 AM |
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What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market
A simple way to avoid losing money in the stock market is by not believing in promises of big returns, every investment has a level of risk and there is no stable return term. They are all promised to have retirement, stable and passive income, happy ending, fast car, fast house, fast woman, big fat profit, millionaire, high risk high return. Some of them got into big loan and loss everything, while they are still having to pay their loan. Are they gonna get a refund? The broker tell me stock market would make a come back again, it is just a cycle thing, technical correction, everybody would get their refund when market come back again. Now is the best time to buy low, when they market come back, it is your chance to retire young retire rich.
I don't mean to say it's the same as a ponzi scheme, but when the sales they offer don't live up to expectations and too many promises are offered like retirement, stable income, big profits etc as you mentioned it's almost the same as a ponzi scheme. How is it possible that the stock market can provide stable income and big profits every time because talking about volatility no one can guarantee, so it is almost certain that the offers they give do not make sense It's best to try to do manual trading using a separate pattern, now access to investing in crypto and bitcoin is so easy for everyone to run and you don't need to follow a scenario with lots of agreements at the beginning like you told me. Remember some important advice in investing anywhere, there is no term stable returns and get rich quick, because everything needs a process to reach that stage.
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But you know that is not advisable to use loan to purchase Bitcoin no matter how hurry you are in the market than to work hard to save money that will help you to buy and hold for the right time to come to make a good profits from the market. Giving up in crypto investment is not good, I will advise them not to give up than to continue trying because something good will surely happen soon that will help them to recover all their losses and also share their experience with other investors. Now that the price of Bitcoin has decreased, it will be favourable for such guys to buy Bitcoin from the market so that they will have full confident of be among the investors that will achieve income that will change their story for good.
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