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May 28, 2023, 07:03:39 PM
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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

You're not getting a lot if you're betting against your favorite team where you are a die-hard, so I'll just skip it and just cheer for your favorite team there will be times when my favorite team will build up so I can continue betting for them if you're betting against them it's like betraying your loyalty to the team, you are not a die-hard fan in a real sense, you're just a casual fan.
If it's just for the money and entertainment, I don't think there's something wrong with betting against your favorite team. There are a lot of benefits to it too! The mere fact that it allows you to stay grounded and not embody being a die-hard fan of your team is already a big plus that will save you a lot of upfront discussions against other die-hards. Plus the indispensable advantage of knowing what your team can and cannot do is also in your hands, allowing you to make a clearer judgement on whether the team they will be playing against is good or not.

lastly, if the enemy does win the loss of your favorite team wouldn't hurt that much! Cause at least you got money from it! So it's not like you're not getting much from this ordeal, in fact you're getting a lot from just deciding to bet against your favorite team.

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May 28, 2023, 07:13:05 PM
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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?
I can support my club and always wish them well to win every match they play for that is what makes a fan proud to talk about his or her club anywhere and amongst friends..

But when it comes to betting, that is getting money involved, I won't hesitate to bet against my club if I am very sure they are playing against another club that they might not be able to beat..

It's a simple analogy, my club consists of players who are earning money weekly or bi-weekly, they don't know who I am, they don't even know I exist, what exactly is the reason why I should deliberately loss my money for them?

I can support my team and cheer them to win, but when it comes to money, I am most careful how I invest it, if I know my club is likely not going to win a match, I will gladly bet on the opposition, money is not easy to come by, so there is no room to waste it.

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May 28, 2023, 07:22:56 PM
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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

You're not getting a lot if you're betting against your favorite team where you are a die-hard, so I'll just skip it and just cheer for your favorite team there will be times when my favorite team will build up so I can continue betting for them if you're betting against them it's like betraying your loyalty to the team, you are not a die-hard fan in a real sense, you're just a casual fan.

If you feel like you are betraying your fav team, just don't bet at all.

Gamblers look at it differently because often times they don't have favorite team. They analyze probability of which team could win. They take side to whoever has the chance of winning. I would say they are more fan of the sport than a fan of a team.


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May 28, 2023, 07:23:59 PM
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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?
You're not getting a lot if you're betting against your favorite team where you are a die-hard, so I'll just skip it and just cheer for your favorite team there will be times when my favorite team will build up so I can continue betting for them if you're betting against them it's like betraying your loyalty to the team, you are not a die-hard fan in a real sense, you're just a casual fan.
Different people have different opinions about this, of course. Like, I believe that my loyalty towards my team will always be there no matter what, but if I know that the team we are playing against is very balanced and has got everything to win and we haven't been performing so well throughout the season. I will of course still cheer for my team and hope that they win, but if the odds are good, I might place a bet on the opponent.

I believe finances should be kept aside from your emotion or from things you are emotionally attached to, it's the rule of a business or anything that you do to earn money, you simply do that without having any feelings for anything or else you won't be able to earn money.
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May 28, 2023, 07:28:12 PM
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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

You're not getting a lot if you're betting against your favorite team where you are a die-hard, so I'll just skip it and just cheer for your favorite team there will be times when my favorite team will build up so I can continue betting for them if you're betting against them it's like betraying your loyalty to the team, you are not a die-hard fan in a real sense, you're just a casual fan.

Depends on the person's perspective because there is actually no rule that says about prohibiting in gambling against your favorite team especially if you are a die-hard fan of them but others will say the opposite because that it's just an unwritten rule as that is one of the factors of being a loyal to your club. Although for me, all sides have a point but I put my gambling and support in two different things. So in plain answer, yes, I will bet against my team especially if there are times that their chances are not that strong and this kind of scenario has already happened to me before, just like in NBA.

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May 28, 2023, 07:54:00 PM
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I do bets even if the odds aren't good or I know that the team that I support isn't in good shape in support of them. But this is just happening for sometimes when I think that I'm okay to lose money. I am not die hard as the others but that's just a way for me to support a club or team that I really like. It's not that a lot of money to lose and could just be a snack amount but, it's a way for me to show I like these teams but I'll never go beyond that with an amount that I can't afford to lose.

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May 28, 2023, 08:08:01 PM
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I do bets even if the odds aren't good or I know that the team that I support isn't in good shape in support of them. But this is just happening for sometimes when I think that I'm okay to lose money. I am not die hard as the others but that's just a way for me to support a club or team that I really like. It's not that a lot of money to lose and could just be a snack amount but, it's a way for me to show I like these teams but I'll never go beyond that with an amount that I can't afford to lose.
I get you as I'm also doing that, sometimes, when watching a game I place some bet even I fully know that my team might lose the game but I still place my spare money to show some support and also to add some entertainment while watching the game, but like you, it's just a spare amount, some money that I'm willing to let go for my entertainment.

Not really a fan of being a heavy gambler where throwing huge amount just to support the team that I'm idolizing.

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May 28, 2023, 08:08:10 PM
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We are fans of different football clubs, and whenever there is football banter, we never fail to take sides with our respective clubs. We stand by them no matter what because that's what being a fan of a football club is all about - unwavering loyalty. However, not all of our favorite clubs perform well. A typical case study is Chelsea, who have had one of their worst performances this season, currently occupying the 11th position. The challenges they have faced this season are unlike any other. Just last night, they were brutally defeated by Manchester United, who showed them no mercy, to the extent that they didn't even celebrate one of their goals.

As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

Interesting question.

I am a fan of Arsenal and Barcelona, ​​and when one of these teams plays a game, for example against a strong team like Manchester City. maybe I still bet on Arsenal, even though the probability of winning is not as big as City. however, because this match is a match that concerns the team we like. automatically, we will support the idol team. however, there are more ideal ways to bet. at least, bookies provide some options. well, we match the choice with the situation of the team. or, betting with ospi handicap, Over/Under, both teams to score, and all kinds available. why, yes, we have to be realistic. Even though in football anything can happen, that doesn't mean we will let our money just disappear by betting without calculation, analysis and all kinds of things.

Especially if we refer to your post, United vs Chelsea. in theory United is superior to Chelsea, because the two teams have quite a different gap. United is experiencing a positive trend, while Chelsea is in a downturn. to prevent us from losing money on betting, there are many options available. Or, better yet, don't bet at all.

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May 28, 2023, 08:28:51 PM
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Well, business is business. There isn't any cons on betting against your club, as the objective here is to predict who is going to win and not to cheer for one team or another.
Exactly.

The club owners and members and other fans won't even get mad at you just because you see the odds is better than the opponent and you think that your favorite club will lose this day. People wouldn't even care if you lose, so why care for the thoughts of others since you're not even associated with the entire club and you're just the same as the others for being a fan.

at the end of the day, what matters is how much you have in your pockets? that is true, people won't care if you lose or not. so better think of yourself and not others.
without a doubt, some people even bet on the opposite team if they see such advantage. after all, people do care about their financial gain on this activity, whether you are a die-hard fan or not.
Yes.

It's all about how much you've got. You can do whatever you want with any amount on your pocket whether to bet it for your favorite club or to their opponent.

Nobody really cares unless you're part of a circle of truly die hard fans of your favorite clubs/teams and you tell them that you never bet for that club. They might mock you but who cares, it isn't their money and you're the one taking the risk.

That's why let's just go with the reality and people shouldn't care as well for other people's validation. I thought that it's just for some case but even in gambling which is another personal matter, everyone shouldn't intidimated such as betting for your likes or not.



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May 28, 2023, 08:39:27 PM
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I do bets even if the odds aren't good or I know that the team that I support isn't in good shape in support of them. But this is just happening for sometimes when I think that I'm okay to lose money. I am not die hard as the others but that's just a way for me to support a club or team that I really like. It's not that a lot of money to lose and could just be a snack amount but, it's a way for me to show I like these teams but I'll never go beyond that with an amount that I can't afford to lose.
I get you as I'm also doing that, sometimes, when watching a game I place some bet even I fully know that my team might lose the game but I still place my spare money to show some support and also to add some entertainment while watching the game, but like you, it's just a spare amount, some money that I'm willing to let go for my entertainment.

Not really a fan of being a heavy gambler where throwing huge amount just to support the team that I'm idolizing.


After all, that is how we show our support and loyalty towards our beloved team. It may not be our national team or our own team that is directly connected to us but what can we do, it is the team where our mind is into. Even though there are some times that their chances are not that strong, we are still supporting them from betting in favor of them and putting our little contribution towards them. Anyway, it's not a big deal even if I lose the bet or not, after all, it is my way to entertain myself and to show my support especially if a fellow kababayan is playing or fighting in other sports.

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A difficult choice. I think it mainly depends on how serious you are about gambling and how much money you have to bet. When it comes to a serious amount, I think the money takes precedence. But there are so many options to bet on and so many clubs to bet on, so why pick a match where you bet on your own team or bet against your own team? That is playing with the devil according to the proverb. I don't think that would be nice to watch if you have a bet against your team? You want them to win and then you don't.

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May 28, 2023, 08:51:23 PM
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I do bets even if the odds aren't good or I know that the team that I support isn't in good shape in support of them. But this is just happening for sometimes when I think that I'm okay to lose money. I am not die hard as the others but that's just a way for me to support a club or team that I really like. It's not that a lot of money to lose and could just be a snack amount but, it's a way for me to show I like these teams but I'll never go beyond that with an amount that I can't afford to lose.
I get you as I'm also doing that, sometimes, when watching a game I place some bet even I fully know that my team might lose the game but I still place my spare money to show some support and also to add some entertainment while watching the game, but like you, it's just a spare amount, some money that I'm willing to let go for my entertainment.
That's true, I know people that do feel the same way understand that it's not about gambling anymore. As we're like to expect that these bets are set to lose and it's okay since it's not a lot and it's like a spare change that we have. While I understand that some people will say that people shouldn't bet when they're not comfortable of the teams they're betting. Yeah, but it's not about that but the support that we give them mentally and with this little actions that we do.

Not really a fan of being a heavy gambler where throwing huge amount just to support the team that I'm idolizing.
As long as we're not going to be hit badly by that amount, they're normal and there's nothing to worry about such. We do idolize and we do support and losing a bit is always part of gambling and that's okay as we've said that it's like just a show of supporting them and having some great entertainment.

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May 28, 2023, 09:56:09 PM
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It depends on who the match is fixed with... Who would ever prefer to lose his funds for the fact that he loves his club so much?? I thought we only gambled to win?? So how about when you're seeing a serious losing game and you keep wagering on them cus it's a big club playing against your lame club?? Would that change the fact that your team losses if they had to?? No!
But on the other hand, there's always this relief and less-anxiety when staking in favour of your club - but that's only when you're sure they'll win... Maybe when they're made to play with a club in the relegation zone etc ...lol. thirdly, it also depends on Which team you become a fan of.

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Maybe in some of their matches, if the team they're up against is overall better and I see them struggling, then there's no need for me to hesitate in betting against them (as long as the odds are good to bet on). As a gambler, you don't always find matches that can be seen as an easy win, and there will be a day when your team will be involved, so there's no need to avoid them just because you're a die-hard fan. I respect those who don't, but when I see a good opportunity in front of me, then i'd always take it than just watch the game.

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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?
fortunately, i'm not a big fan of Chelsea lol, i myself am a fan of Man Utd and Madrid but when Man Utd was in a bad phase (like a few months ago when there was no change to the MU squad) i never bet against MU but decided not to take bets for the time being, if it's related to MU, but it's different with Madrid, i always follow all bets related to Madrid because Madrid's performance was very satisfying even though they failed to win from man city in the UCL semifinals.  In general, you are not a loyal fan if the bet you make is against your favorite team.

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I am personally Galatasaray fan here and Galatasaray is very close to win championship title. At this point I wouldn't be able to bet against them. In at least 5-6-7 football matches I expected them to win all. They actually lost once and could lose advantage even. In other words I was biased when measuring potential of my team and quickly made some decision mistakes. I rather leave their matches alone so.
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May 29, 2023, 06:38:23 AM
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We are fans of different football clubs, and whenever there is football banter, we never fail to take sides with our respective clubs. We stand by them no matter what because that's what being a fan of a football club is all about - unwavering loyalty. However, not all of our favorite clubs perform well. A typical case study is Chelsea, who have had one of their worst performances this season, currently occupying the 11th position. The challenges they have faced this season are unlike any other. Just last night, they were brutally defeated by Manchester United, who showed them no mercy, to the extent that they didn't even celebrate one of their goals.

As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

The answer actually depends on your reasons why you are betting. So answers will vary for each gambler. Because if you are there to actually support your team, man. regardless of whether they win or lose you will support them. But if it does mean losing your funds, do not risk your money knowing that you are giving it away. You can give your support in many other ways. If loyalty is a great big deal for you, you won't bet on the other side. BUT if money is more important to you, and based on your analysis the other team will win, you can make a large sum of money in there. Again it all depends on the reason why you are betting in the first place.
Are you there to give your support or are you there to make money? All still are your choice.

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May 29, 2023, 08:21:35 AM
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I make more bets against my favorite teams than any other team for any sport period.  The reason is simple, I know my teams better than I know any other teams. So I know their strengths and weaknesses and I can capitalize on that. It’s foolish to not want to bet against your own team if you believe with certainty they are going to lose and by more than the spread or money line.

Bet with your head, not your heart.

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May 29, 2023, 08:40:28 AM
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It depends on who the match is fixed with... Who would ever prefer to lose his funds for the fact that he loves his club so much?? I thought we only gambled to win?? So how about when you're seeing a serious losing game and you keep wagering on them cus it's a big club playing against your lame club?? Would that change the fact that your team losses if they had to?? No!
But on the other hand, there's always this relief and less-anxiety when staking in favour of your club - but that's only when you're sure they'll win... Maybe when they're made to play with a club in the relegation zone etc ...lol. thirdly, it also depends on Which team you become a fan of.

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Isn't it a captivating puzzle, the collision and fusion of the gamble and the fan club, as unpredictable as a cryptic cipher? It's an intriguing ballet of practicality and fervor, correct? From a purely pecuniary angle, betting on a guaranteed victor seems like unlocking the right cryptex. But, is sports fanhood just about logical combinations?

Your observation sets off an engrossing discourse on the dichotomy of emotions and decisions. Pragmatism would urge financial prosperity, yet an emotional pledge to a team might direct our compass elsewhere. A perpetual enigma of mental push-and-pull between the chambers of heart and brain.

Let's not forget the moral riddle of wagering on a game presumed to be 'rigged.'

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