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June 26, 2023, 05:30:53 PM |
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I’ve turned $1,000 into $100,000 I’ve turned $6,000 into $80,000 I’ve turned $11,000 into $550,000 and recently I’ve turned $4,000 into $90,000
With nothing to show for it…I’m a sharp sports bettor, but I always end up going all in. I can never be satisfied until it’s too late. I always need to go all in.
I’ve been reading comments from my last post (turning $4,000 into $90,000 and losing the entire $90,000), and I can’t help but feel like shit.
How do I get over the countless failures? I’ve been chasing the $1,000,000 dream for years.
Dear NAPK1NS_RA3,Your post resonates with a tale of grit, ambition, and the innate human need to strive for more. It's apparent that you have an uncanny knack for sports betting, but it seems the thrill of "going all in" is where things start to unravel. And I understand, it can be exhilarating. But as we know, it also carries tremendous risk. I represent Chipstars, a place where we celebrate wins, but more importantly, we support our players during their losses. We believe in responsible gambling, and I would like to suggest a few guidelines that could help change your relationship with gambling. 1. Set a Budget: Decide beforehand how much money you are willing to risk. Once you've reached this limit, walk away. 2. Aim for Moderation: It sounds like you have a 'go big or go home' attitude, which can lead to substantial wins but also devastating losses. Perhaps a change in mindset to 'slow and steady' could be beneficial. 3. Be Patient: Rome wasn't built in a day, and nor are fortunes. Aim for smaller, consistent profits instead of one grand payday. 4. Seek Support: If you're struggling with your gambling habits, seek help. We have resources at Chipstars to help manage gambling issues and can provide contacts to professional help if required. 5. Set Limits: Your casino must have the ability to limit how much you can bet on a daily or monthly basis. If you feel this would help, you can give it a shot for a specific time. Remember, Chipstars is not just about winning; it's about enjoying the process and being part of a community. Gambling should be entertaining, not a source of stress or financial instability. I invite you to join our community, where you'll find support and perhaps a fresh approach to your betting strategy. Hang in there, NAPK1NS_RA3! You've shown great potential with your wins, now it's time to master managing the losses. We believe in you, and we're here to help.
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June 26, 2023, 05:38:59 PM |
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Gambling needs patient,so that you don't rush into wrong decisions and conclusion. What I see about impatient gamblers is that they are in a rush to win. This occurs when you use borrowed money or money made for some important purpose to gamble,you will lack patient because your mind is not at rest. Emotion can also play a major role to impatient when gambling. When gambling one should have rest of mind and only take gambling as fun and not for profit sake so that you will have a healthy gambling life. Don't gamble if you don't have funds to do so that you don't end up chasing your loss impatiently.
Apart from acting hastily, they had also greatly exaggerated their hopes of victory. The factor of patience and self-control also plays an important role in every defeat. Those who don't have a strong mentality and are easily emotional will definitely be tempted to do it again with the aim of winning which they may not necessarily be able to get. Gambling is very disturbing psychologically, especially when using borrowed money or for other important needs. In fact, placing too high hopes on gambling is something that is very wrong. It's too easy for them to assume that they will win, so their vision changes where they think that they will be able to get a lot of money just by gambling, without them realizing that this is just a matter of luck which will not always come to them. Gamblers must know their own character and this is very important so they don't experience continuous defeats because they don't realize the many mistakes when betting and must be corrected immediately if they want to continue playing gambling. And emotions, lust, ambition, haste, and lack of self-control are enemies that must be corrected so that they don't happen again and also minimize fatigue. It's not easy, but you have to do it if you don't want to run the risk of losing often and even becoming an addict. and if you are able to fix your bad you can play calmly or will play when you are in a good position and with enough capital to play, even you can get a full or partial win when in a winning position because you can control yourself because you go when you are in a winning position, and don't follow the ambition to keep playing. Because when you have won, there will definitely be a feeling of wanting to keep playing and hoping to win again which will actually make you lose everything because of ambition and lust while playing, so it's very important to fix what's wrong with your bet.
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swogerino
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June 26, 2023, 05:44:51 PM |
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Gambling needs patient,so that you don't rush into wrong decisions and conclusion. What I see about impatient gamblers is that they are in a rush to win. This occurs when you use borrowed money or money made for some important purpose to gamble,you will lack patient because your mind is not at rest. Emotion can also play a major role to impatient when gambling. When gambling one should have rest of mind and only take gambling as fun and not for profit sake so that you will have a healthy gambling life. Don't gamble if you don't have funds to do so that you don't end up chasing your loss impatiently.
Apart from acting hastily, they had also greatly exaggerated their hopes of victory. The factor of patience and self-control also plays an important role in every defeat. Those who don't have a strong mentality and are easily emotional will definitely be tempted to do it again with the aim of winning which they may not necessarily be able to get. Gambling is very disturbing psychologically, especially when using borrowed money or for other important needs. In fact, placing too high hopes on gambling is something that is very wrong. It's too easy for them to assume that they will win, so their vision changes where they think that they will be able to get a lot of money just by gambling, without them realizing that this is just a matter of luck which will not always come to them. That is something common though,I have tried it myself,when I hit a big win from sport betting I immediately think of the next bet as to where to place the won money to multiply it further so that is very difficult to fight.This is further emphasized when we win a big amount of money as that makes us even more confident than before and as such we don't think that cold headed when placing our next bet which can have really bad consequences as we can lose all the collected money so far,nevertheless I don't blame the OP,when I won one time from 10 dollars 1600 dollars many many years ago I was so euphoric that I could barely keep myself as at that time the value of 1600 dollars was the same as to have won 10.000-15.000 nowadays and I was immediately thinking of my next bet,so this is natural behavior but of course it is wrong.
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June 26, 2023, 06:58:43 PM |
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Ambition is a good thing in gambling but it shouldn't turn into some kind of addiction. I don't know maybe you can see a psychologist to gather extra help about this. Because you need to have control of yourself while betting. It feels great to win big amounts in a short time. I had that feeling in the past but I knew where to stop myself from going all in just like you. Because I actually saw this as an adventure and put a target amount for myself to stop there if I reach it.
This formula really helped me truthfully. But of course your target should be as realistic as possible otherwise nothing would change about greed. Greed is really the biggest enemy of a bettor and one should know how to deal with it well.
Ambition leads to addiction; instead of settling for gambling, we should take the time to figure out what works for us. It is not a straightforward journey to cease gambling; it may be decreased and limited, but it takes an extended period of time. I've been there, and I know exactly how one feels when his or her wagers produce in massive profits, as well as the breakdown feeling when it results in massive loses. Absolutely nothing has an advantage without a disadvantage, therefore we learned to scope our style and connection in everyday with the system's slow functioning. For gamblers who have big ambitions, these gamblers usually have a lot of money or you could say a rich gambler who wants to get a big multiplier to show off and will feel arrogant when he can get the biggest multiplier in gambling. So this ambition often occurs when a rich gambler wants to get something extraordinary at gambling and doesn't care how much he loses, he wants a big win that can be shown off to anyone. I think Op is a rich gambler who wants to get his $1 million winnings to be recognized as a professional gambler.
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Fatunad
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June 26, 2023, 07:14:47 PM |
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Ambition is a good thing in gambling but it shouldn't turn into some kind of addiction. I don't know maybe you can see a psychologist to gather extra help about this. Because you need to have control of yourself while betting. It feels great to win big amounts in a short time. I had that feeling in the past but I knew where to stop myself from going all in just like you. Because I actually saw this as an adventure and put a target amount for myself to stop there if I reach it.
This formula really helped me truthfully. But of course your target should be as realistic as possible otherwise nothing would change about greed. Greed is really the biggest enemy of a bettor and one should know how to deal with it well.
Ambition leads to addiction; instead of settling for gambling, we should take the time to figure out what works for us. It is not a straightforward journey to cease gambling; it may be decreased and limited, but it takes an extended period of time. I've been there, and I know exactly how one feels when his or her wagers produce in massive profits, as well as the breakdown feeling when it results in massive loses. Absolutely nothing has an advantage without a disadvantage, therefore we learned to scope our style and connection in everyday with the system's slow functioning. For gamblers who have big ambitions, these gamblers usually have a lot of money or you could say a rich gambler who wants to get a big multiplier to show off and will feel arrogant when he can get the biggest multiplier in gambling. So this ambition often occurs when a rich gambler wants to get something extraordinary at gambling and doesn't care how much he loses, he wants a big win that can be shown off to anyone. I think Op is a rich gambler who wants to get his $1 million winnings to be recognized as a professional gambler. I do assume on the same thing on which there are really people who are really that kind of having different level of boastfulness or something that they do really like to showoff something incredible and this is why they would really be trying out to achieve on something which not everybody could be able to do so specially with other gamblers who do make out huge bets or trying out to hit some good multipliers but this one is really trying out to achieve that $1M winning or profit which is something that it is really that too big. We know that we human beings does really have that kind of tolerance when it comes to risks and on the time that you do see that you are almost there then you wouldn't really be stopping it until you would really be able to reach out such target. You cant really achieve up these things without having that proper bankroll or money you could have on which we could really be able to say that OP is really indeed a rich person because not all would really be able to make such decision considering that 90k bet in one go is something that not everyone would be doing.
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June 28, 2023, 05:11:23 AM |
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Gambling needs patient,so that you don't rush into wrong decisions and conclusion. What I see about impatient gamblers is that they are in a rush to win. This occurs when you use borrowed money or money made for some important purpose to gamble,you will lack patient because your mind is not at rest. Emotion can also play a major role to impatient when gambling. When gambling one should have rest of mind and only take gambling as fun and not for profit sake so that you will have a healthy gambling life. Don't gamble if you don't have funds to do so that you don't end up chasing your loss impatiently.
Apart from acting hastily, they had also greatly exaggerated their hopes of victory. The factor of patience and self-control also plays an important role in every defeat. Those who don't have a strong mentality and are easily emotional will definitely be tempted to do it again with the aim of winning which they may not necessarily be able to get. Gambling is very disturbing psychologically, especially when using borrowed money or for other important needs. In fact, placing too high hopes on gambling is something that is very wrong. It's too easy for them to assume that they will win, so their vision changes where they think that they will be able to get a lot of money just by gambling, without them realizing that this is just a matter of luck which will not always come to them. The easiest way to ruin yourself and your life is to borrow money from somewhere and gamble with it, because the chances of you making something out of that will be about 1% and the chances of you losing everything in gambling will be about 99%, now the choice is yours about what you should do, borrow money to gamble or simply find another way to earn a living for yourself and your family and have a dedicated budget from your earnings for your gambling activities. A lot of people make the mistake of borrowing money for gambling, they don't realize that they are going to get trapped once they get into this thing, they will keep borrowing money to repay the loans and gamble what's left and lose that too, it keeps getting deeper and deeper.
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Doan9269
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June 28, 2023, 06:00:18 AM |
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Just as it is commonly applicable to many of us that we don't easily let go of some of our experiences in gambling because we feel very remorse about them thinking that we could have performed well than we did while gambling but there's always a reason to think or remember about the risk involved in gambling a well, we can get over it by being hardworking the more to face the consequent encounters in gambling while taking off our minds from the past experiences in other to be able to move on.
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July 02, 2023, 01:16:51 AM |
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The easiest way to ruin yourself and your life is to borrow money from somewhere and gamble with it, because the chances of you making something out of that will be about 1% and the chances of you losing everything in gambling will be about 99%, now the choice is yours about what you should do, borrow money to gamble or simply find another way to earn a living for yourself and your family and have a dedicated budget from your earnings for your gambling activities.
A lot of people make the mistake of borrowing money for gambling, they don't realize that they are going to get trapped once they get into this thing, they will keep borrowing money to repay the loans and gamble what's left and lose that too, it keeps getting deeper and deeper.
This is an awful way to compound a problem, being a victim of a gambling addiction is already bad enough, owing money you cannot afford to pay is also very bad as it can cripple your finances for years or even decades, however combining both is just asking for trouble. As it is obvious such a loan will not be used for anything productive and instead it will be used to fuel an addiction, and when the time comes to pay up what you owe then you will find yourself cornered, and we have seen people in the exact same position taking their lives as they fail to see a way out of their problems.
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July 02, 2023, 01:52:20 AM |
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Although your numbers are quite large compared to smaller gamblers, the one area where all gamblers lose control is their ability to stop themselves. Especially when a gambler has to bet a lot, he loses patience to refrain, most gamblers make such wrong decisions. But after winning a large amount of money by gambling, he must be aware and increase his patience. But most of the gamblers are not patient like that, rather they get impatient and stop gambling and keep betting again and again and eventually lose all their money. So before gambling a person must regret his patience in case he can fulfill his dreams in future.
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July 02, 2023, 05:51:15 AM |
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Although your numbers are quite large compared to smaller gamblers, the one area where all gamblers lose control is their ability to stop themselves. Especially when a gambler has to bet a lot, he loses patience to refrain, most gamblers make such wrong decisions. But after winning a large amount of money by gambling, he must be aware and increase his patience. But most of the gamblers are not patient like that, rather they get impatient and stop gambling and keep betting again and again and eventually lose all their money. So before gambling a person must regret his patience in case he can fulfill his dreams in future.
If he loses the temper to hold back, that's when trouble will come and he will have a hard time dealing with it. An example is if he loses, he will not be able to think long and hard that he should stop and leave gambling because of his defeat, but he will continue to try to catch up with his losses. And if he wins, he doesn't stop but instead tries to get another victory. This has happened to many gamblers, and they have had to lose a lot in the end. But they are not sorry to see the loss and instead will return to the casino to recover previous losses. Gamblers who cannot be patient and self-controlled will not be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment but as a place to make money.
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July 02, 2023, 08:25:35 AM |
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I’ve turned $1,000 into $100,000 I’ve turned $6,000 into $80,000 I’ve turned $11,000 into $550,000 and recently I’ve turned $4,000 into $90,000
With nothing to show for it…I’m a sharp sports bettor, but I always end up going all in. I can never be satisfied until it’s too late. I always need to go all in.
I’ve been reading comments from my last post (turning $4,000 into $90,000 and losing the entire $90,000), and I can’t help but feel like shit.
How do I get over the countless failures? I’ve been chasing the $1,000,000 dream for years.
Turning 1,000 USD into 100,000 USD is quite impossible. If you manage your profits till you gained 100K grands then how come you lose after all? I think it is because of greediness. If I were you, I will secure 90% of my gains and turn into a real investment. Because risking your money in gambling is just burning dollars on your hand.
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July 02, 2023, 08:36:09 AM |
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I’ve turned $1,000 into $100,000 I’ve turned $6,000 into $80,000 I’ve turned $11,000 into $550,000 and recently I’ve turned $4,000 into $90,000
With nothing to show for it…I’m a sharp sports bettor, but I always end up going all in. I can never be satisfied until it’s too late. I always need to go all in.
I’ve been reading comments from my last post (turning $4,000 into $90,000 and losing the entire $90,000), and I can’t help but feel like shit.
How do I get over the countless failures? I’ve been chasing the $1,000,000 dream for years.
Turning 1,000 USD into 100,000 USD is quite impossible. If you manage your profits till you gained 100K grands then how come you lose after all? I think it is because of greediness. If I were you, I will secure 90% of my gains and turn into a real investment. Because risking your money in gambling is just burning dollars on your hand. It is possible if he just accumulated it over time; he didn't say how long, but if he said that it was just for a day or even a week, then that is not possible unless you are a heavy sports bettor and any kind of game you are betting on is all in. For sure, the OP learned a lesson from losing all of his profit or winnings, but the problem is that if he continues to bet big, he will commit the same mistake again. It is really greediness that even though you won big, you still want more. It is like you want to make the casino bankrupt, which is very impossible as for sure you'll lose all your money doing it.
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July 02, 2023, 08:37:31 AM |
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Turning 1,000 USD into 100,000 USD is quite impossible. If you manage your profits till you gained 100K grands then how come you lose after all? I think it is because of greediness. If I were you, I will secure 90% of my gains and turn into a real investment. Because risking your money in gambling is just burning dollars on your hand. He already said that he managed to turn $4000 into $90,000 but due to very high ambitions to earn $1000,000 he lost the entire amount and was very sad because greed and ambition had led him to great losses. In gambling nothing is impossible if it is supported by luck, maybe he has used his luck on the first and second, third and fourth wins so that after that his ambition must completely disappear.
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July 02, 2023, 09:02:31 AM |
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Turning 1,000 USD into 100,000 USD is quite impossible. If you manage your profits till you gained 100K grands then how come you lose after all? I think it is because of greediness. If I were you, I will secure 90% of my gains and turn into a real investment. Because risking your money in gambling is just burning dollars on your hand. He already said that he managed to turn $4000 into $90,000 but due to very high ambitions to earn $1000,000 he lost the entire amount and was very sad because greed and ambition had led him to great losses. In gambling nothing is impossible if it is supported by luck, maybe he has used his luck on the first and second, third and fourth wins so that after that his ambition must completely disappear. Besides about luck, another thing that brings him to lose the entire funds he has also with his winning result because he always uses the all-in way, it’s not a good way at all, maybe he could survive in one or two attempts but in all-in, the way only takes one defeat to destroy all the results already obtained before. All in is not different far from parlay you can put as many bets as possible to increase the odds of profit but one bet that the wrong wins the other becomes meaningless. Up until now, Op is still doing the same thing, as seen in his other posts, even with a higher goal, somehow whether he will be able to do it but that’s not a wise way at all, because it’s impossible we’ll always be accurate in predicting a game even with odds below 1.10 chances of losing remain there.
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July 02, 2023, 09:03:02 AM |
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It is always tough for gamblers to control the urge of gambling when they manage to win a huge amount of money from the casino out of a sudden, as the desire to win more money will always be one of the key reason gamblers losing back their huge amount of winnings back to the casino. I guess that is also one of the reason why casino owners are not panicking about a player winning huge amount of money from them as the same player will just kept on returning to gamble.
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July 02, 2023, 09:31:56 AM |
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I’ve turned $1,000 into $100,000 I’ve turned $6,000 into $80,000 I’ve turned $11,000 into $550,000 and recently I’ve turned $4,000 into $90,000
With nothing to show for it…I’m a sharp sports bettor, but I always end up going all in. I can never be satisfied until it’s too late. I always need to go all in.
I’ve been reading comments from my last post (turning $4,000 into $90,000 and losing the entire $90,000), and I can’t help but feel like shit.
How do I get over the countless failures? I’ve been chasing the $1,000,000 dream for years.
Poor money management was responsible for your loses why not keep or save 50% of yours winning and started all over again instead of compounding your win which is a very risk and back to square one, compounding work well in trading not in gambling, I understand your dream was to hit $1,000,000 which can be swiftly achieved by compounding, the best bet is when you win and hit a certain target save though it's going to take a longer period of time to reach or hit your overall target, however that money management is less risky than compounding, gambling is very risky and being addicted is also very dangerous.
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July 02, 2023, 10:38:13 AM |
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I’ve turned $1,000 into $100,000 I’ve turned $6,000 into $80,000 I’ve turned $11,000 into $550,000 and recently I’ve turned $4,000 into $90,000
With nothing to show for it…I’m a sharp sports bettor, but I always end up going all in. I can never be satisfied until it’s too late. I always need to go all in.
I’ve been reading comments from my last post (turning $4,000 into $90,000 and losing the entire $90,000), and I can’t help but feel like shit.
How do I get over the countless failures? I’ve been chasing the $1,000,000 dream for years.
From what you have written, I can see that all you are trying to pass is the ability of you betting and making consistent profits but greed has eaten you up to the extend that you always end up losing the profits. You need to have self control or else you will keep losing. There are people that if they eventually make the kind of money you had in gambling, they will be rich by now. You need to work on yourself so that you will not be this greedy to the extend of losing this amount of funds that many gambler's had been longing to make and leave gambling entirely.
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July 02, 2023, 02:17:16 PM |
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From what you have written, I can see that all you are trying to pass is the ability of you betting and making consistent profits but greed has eaten you up to the extend that you always end up losing the profits. You need to have self control or else you will keep losing. There are people that if they eventually make the kind of money you had in gambling, they will be rich by now. You need to work on yourself so that you will not be this greedy to the extend of losing this amount of funds that many gambler's had been longing to make and leave gambling entirely.
There are so many cases that happen when someone gets a win, so it's certain that the next day they will continue to do it with high confidence in a win which in the end it turns out they actually accept defeat. All gamblers will feel in this position, I think this is natural because we know that everyone needs money and most of them always want more than what they already have. In this position, the factor of self-control is indeed very important, but few of them can do it because the lure of victory in a gamble is so great that it makes them place their hopes too high. To be honest, I always tell my friends who are curious to try gambling, I always forbid it because I feel that it is too difficult to get out of gambling.
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July 02, 2023, 02:28:18 PM |
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It is always tough for gamblers to control the urge of gambling when they manage to win a huge amount of money from the casino out of a sudden, as the desire to win more money will always be one of the key reason gamblers losing back their huge amount of winnings back to the casino. I guess that is also one of the reason why casino owners are not panicking about a player winning huge amount of money from them as the same player will just kept on returning to gamble.
It's normal because when we can win a large amount of money, we are triggered to repeat it and try to get another big win. But we forget that big wins often don't come twice but only once, so when we try to continue, we end up getting a lot of losses, even exceeding the amount of big money we got before. Besides that, the greed to win again will come and make us keep playing because we feel we can win it again. The casino owner is of course happy if the winning gambler continues playing because that's when the casino can turn things around and take the winning money from the gambler.
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July 02, 2023, 02:30:28 PM |
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Well, as a fellow gambler, I can say I've been in your situation many times(not the amount). There's a lot of advice I can say but even I can not follow it. Since we are both gamblers, I assume we have the same nature, then the advice is kinda useless. That's why I keep on chasing until I reach the amount I wanted and then quit. Other gamblers won't stop until they are not satisfied. Some even have endless satisfaction, it continues to grow/expand.
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