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July 30, 2023, 09:57:36 PM
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Barcelona's performance has been very visible in the last 2 seasons, since being coached by Xavi they have made a lot of progress and it continues to go in a positive direction and that has been seen since the middle of last season, and there have been some shortcomings they have tried to cover for transfers this summer, Barcelona is very active to improve.
And thus making many people believe that Barcelona's performance next season will be much better than last season, and personally I see the quality of Barcelona at this time it looks like they are ready to compete more tightly with Europe's top teams.
In domestic competitions I believe because they have proven themselves but in the Champions League it is still difficult even if their development continues.
Let's not forget that in the last 2 seasons they have always failed in the group stage and this is a pretty bad record for Barcelona in their last few seasons.
They have to try something more if they still want to exist and be seen in the champions league but when their performance is still not balanced between the champions league and the domestic league then I think the conditions are still the same as before.
Their current hope is that in the draw for the group phase they do not join the hell group as before so that they are able to improve their performance in the champions league.

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July 30, 2023, 10:09:07 PM
 #2042

I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.

This credit you’re given to them can only be so because of their outstanding performance in the last season’s champions league competition. We don’t know how this upcoming season’s champions league is going to go well for them, but we can conclude now that they’ll go far and make it to the knockout stages. After that, their performance when the next season begins will determine how far they’ll go in the champions league or if they can still retain the title for the second time consecutively..
The champions league as the name indicates is not a farmer's league that we can easily assume that because a team outperformed in the previous season and won the title same event will reiterate itself, of course it has happened with the likes of Real Madrid having it back to back but it wasn't that easy and no one saw it coming either. City as sure to do so well next season but winning the title immediately again is what doesn't seem possible, if you take a critical look at the transfers of usual favorite teams in UCL like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich it will scare you to agree that City can win the title again next season.
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July 30, 2023, 10:15:13 PM
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Xavi will help Barcelona achieve what they hope for, but of course he will need time and a lot of support. Laporta has worked well so far and continues to support Xavi's plans, this will really help the team have a good squad and motivation when wading through the competition.

As far as I am aware, Xavi has done exceptionally well in bringing Barcelona to this level only a few years after taking over as head coach. Because of how stressful the Champions League matches can be, he needs every bit of help he can get to make Barcelona a wonderful fit for the champions league matches.

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Next season Xavi will have to work even harder to fulfill the dreams and desires of all Barcelona fans, but I agree that the Champions League will never be easy to win. I believe Xavi came to improve the mentality of the team, but it will take several seasons for him to really be able to provide great competition in the Champions League.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does more and achieves his goals in the upcoming Champions League season or the one after that. I don't underestimate Xavi's potential after his fantastic season for Barcelona last season. He made the club stronger and more deserving of consideration for the Champions League trophy next season. I'm sure he's already planning something big for Barcelona next season.

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July 30, 2023, 10:27:12 PM
 #2044

Barcelona cant repeat the shamefull performance of last two years, being stuck on group phase and falling into Europa League. So they are gonna be very akward on the draw this year.

Xavi its doing Barcelona play really good footbal, but in europe they are strugling to show that somehow. But i think with Gundogan its gonna be much more team than before, he was the key player they were missing.

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July 30, 2023, 10:30:20 PM
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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.

This credit you’re given to them can only be so because of their outstanding performance in the last season’s champions league competition. We don’t know how this upcoming season’s champions league is going to go well for them, but we can conclude now that they’ll go far and make it to the knockout stages. After that, their performance when the next season begins will determine how far they’ll go in the champions league or if they can still retain the title for the second time consecutively..
The champions league as the name indicates is not a farmer's league that we can easily assume that because a team outperformed in the previous season and won the title same event will reiterate itself, of course it has happened with the likes of Real Madrid having it back to back but it wasn't that easy and no one saw it coming either. City as sure to do so well next season but winning the title immediately again is what doesn't seem possible, if you take a critical look at the transfers of usual favorite teams in UCL like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich it will scare you to agree that City can win the title again next season.
The fact that Manchester City conquered the whole of Europe last season and lifted the UEFA Champions League title shouldn't make anyone think that they're gonna repeat that same feat again in the 2023/24 season.
Real Madrid in 2016-2018 were the only to have consecutively won the European Cup for over 3 decades and I don't think the current Manchester City squad has what it takes to repeat that feat. City will perform well in the Champions League next season but I don't think they can win it

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July 30, 2023, 10:58:50 PM
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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.

This credit you’re given to them can only be so because of their outstanding performance in the last season’s champions league competition. We don’t know how this upcoming season’s champions league is going to go well for them, but we can conclude now that they’ll go far and make it to the knockout stages. After that, their performance when the next season begins will determine how far they’ll go in the champions league or if they can still retain the title for the second time consecutively..
The champions league as the name indicates is not a farmer's league that we can easily assume that because a team outperformed in the previous season and won the title same event will reiterate itself, of course it has happened with the likes of Real Madrid having it back to back but it wasn't that easy and no one saw it coming either. City as sure to do so well next season but winning the title immediately again is what doesn't seem possible, if you take a critical look at the transfers of usual favorite teams in UCL like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich it will scare you to agree that City can win the title again next season.
The fact that Manchester City conquered the whole of Europe last season and lifted the UEFA Champions League title shouldn't make anyone think that they're gonna repeat that same feat again in the 2023/24 season.
Real Madrid in 2016-2018 were the only to have consecutively won the European Cup for over 3 decades and I don't think the current Manchester City squad has what it takes to repeat that feat. City will perform well in the Champions League next season but I don't think they can win it

The best reason to not believe that Manchester City wins it again was the final against Inter Milan when everyone thought that they are going to take it home with ease and cover a handicap of 1 or 2 goals, but Inter Milan could have won that game as well. These little things that decide over win or defeat are sometimes out of anyone's control. Otherwise we wouldn't love the game as much if it was all set in stone before the final whistle.

But what strikes me as odd is that you say you don't think they can win it. In like, there is no chance for them? They are too bad? I fully disagree with this. I would say they can win it, but there are a few other teams that can also win it.

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July 30, 2023, 11:55:11 PM
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Inter's defense focused game was really working well against Manchester City. Maybe they lost but it was still not a humiliating type of loss. They could have even turned things around if they didn't waste big goal opportunities. Therefore I believe Inter also deserved to win that title with their smart game.

Manchester City will need to learn to stay stronger against this kind of teams as well. Otherwise they might get eliminated by such team in a really unexpected time. They play easier against teams playing an attacking game or the ones with weak defenses. But the most challenging ones for them are like Inter which know how to deal with teams like Manchester City.

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July 31, 2023, 02:10:01 AM
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Inter's defense focused game was really working well against Manchester City. Maybe they lost but it was still not a humiliating type of loss. They could have even turned things around if they didn't waste big goal opportunities. Therefore I believe Inter also deserved to win that title with their smart game.

Manchester City will need to learn to stay stronger against this kind of teams as well. Otherwise they might get eliminated by such team in a really unexpected time. They play easier against teams playing an attacking game or the ones with weak defenses. But the most challenging ones for them are like Inter which know how to deal with teams like Manchester City.
Manchester City dominated the game with full confidence in both halves but things got difficult for the cityzens in the extra minutes of the second halve, the Nerazzurri keeps attempting their shots at them, however Guardiola men absolved all the pressure and sealed their victory. It was really a disappointing season for Seria A clubs, three clubs making it to the UEFA CL final, European Final and Conference League final, they all returned home without a single trophy. This season would be competitive for them, they stand to improved their performances.

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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.
Pep guardiola is a experienced coach which we all know and he performed very well in last season, and everyone is hoping he will be able to maintain his good performance in the coming season, since their is no much player’s that left his club, and the main players that left, he is already looking for perfect replacement for them, so that the team will be stabilized. But we all just have to wait for the season to start and see how Manchester City is going to perform, lots of people have confidence in pep guardiola to maintain his good performance, but let’s wait for the season to start and let’s hope he won’t disappoint most of us that have confidence in him.

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July 31, 2023, 11:25:39 AM
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Barcelona might need a quite long time to bring back their old days in the Champions League. Because I don't feel like it is only related to Xavi's strategies now. Barcelona are rebuilding with very young players mostly. This team will need some more time to be able to reach the level at which they can fight harder against the biggest favourites.

Hence I won't be expecting them to have a magical change this season as well. Maybe this time they would manage to complete the group stage successfully. But I don't think they still have a strong mentality to deal with big teams in later stages. This tournament is nothing like a domestic league.

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July 31, 2023, 12:36:24 PM
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Barcelona cant repeat the shamefull performance of last two years, being stuck on group phase and falling into Europa League. So they are gonna be very akward on the draw this year.

Xavi its doing Barcelona play really good footbal, but in europe they are strugling to show that somehow. But i think with Gundogan its gonna be much more team than before, he was the key player they were missing.

I think right now, barcelona should not be thinking about doing well in the Champions League. They should concentrate in one competition only. And I genuinely believe that they have a better chance to win the La Liga titles instead of winning the Champions League. So even though some people are saying that Barcelona should be able to do better in European competitions, I am going to say that it is very understandable why they are not doing well in the Champions League. It’s because they are not even trying to. Last season, they went for the La Liga title and they have successfully achieved that. Let’s see what is the approach from them in this season.



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July 31, 2023, 12:58:56 PM
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Barcelona cant repeat the shamefull performance of last two years, being stuck on group phase and falling into Europa League. So they are gonna be very akward on the draw this year.

Xavi its doing Barcelona play really good footbal, but in europe they are strugling to show that somehow. But i think with Gundogan its gonna be much more team than before, he was the key player they were missing.
The last two seasons have been a nightmare for big teams like Barcelona and they probably don't want that to happen again in the Champions League next season. As a coach Xavi is fully responsible for the performance of the team he has built and as long as they can still prove their capacity then they will probably be much better later.

The problem that often arises for Barcelona is its inconsistency while in European competitions such as the Champions League and it is still a question of how a team with so many good players can go down to the European league and even happen in a row. Gundogan will clearly be a differentiator because he is a game creator and his previous experience in Manchester City will certainly make Barcelona more confident.

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Xavi will help Barcelona achieve what they hope for, but of course he will need time and a lot of support. Laporta has worked well so far and continues to support Xavi's plans, this will really help the team have a good squad and motivation when wading through the competition.

Next season Xavi will have to work even harder to fulfill the dreams and desires of all Barcelona fans, but I agree that the Champions League will never be easy to win. I believe Xavi came to improve the mentality of the team, but it will take several seasons for him to really be able to provide great competition in the Champions League.
Barcelona never hesitated when they appointed Xavi as head coach, even though at that time he had no experience as a coach in European competition. Xavi's presence received full support from Laporta and the entire club management, even though at that time Barcelona was experiencing a financial crisis, club officials continued to look for ways to facilitate Xavi with quality players.

Xavi has succeeded in giving Barcelona the La Liga title, this season he will try something new in the Champions League, of course, Xavi has great hopes in bringing Barcelona to win the Champions League hunt. Xavi is well aware that it is not easy to win the Champions League trophy if it is not supported by an established squad. I see that Barcelona is trying to form a squad according to Xavi's wishes, this season Xavi will try to do his best for Barcelona by working hard to fulfill his hopes of becoming a champion in the Champions League.

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July 31, 2023, 01:29:20 PM
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Barcelona might need a quite long time to bring back their old days in the Champions League. Because I don't feel like it is only related to Xavi's strategies now. Barcelona are rebuilding with very young players mostly. This team will need some more time to be able to reach the level at which they can fight harder against the biggest favourites.

Hence I won't be expecting them to have a magical change this season as well. Maybe this time they would manage to complete the group stage successfully. But I don't think they still have a strong mentality to deal with big teams in later stages. This tournament is nothing like a domestic league.
Barcelona can have improvement in a new season by going through the group stage but at knock-out phase, they will face with stronger team and with more experienced squad. It will become big issue for Barcelona with their young players and the young coach like Xavi. They need more experience in Champions League to play well and win it but everything needs a start and a new season will help them to gain more experience.

The last two seasons have been a nightmare for big teams like Barcelona and they probably don't want that to happen again in the Champions League next season. As a coach Xavi is fully responsible for the performance of the team he has built and as long as they can still prove their capacity then they will probably be much better later.
It is not about what they want or don't want, it is about their ability to play well and achieve good results. Barcelona have been playing worse in Champions League after losing Messi. But previous seasons, when they had Messi, all responsibilities were blamed on Messi unfairly. Now they have to pay the cost and accept the fact that their squad is not actually good and competitive, with or without Messi.

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July 31, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.
Pep guardiola is a experienced coach which we all know and he performed very well in last season, and everyone is hoping he will be able to maintain his good performance in the coming season, since their is no much player’s that left his club, and the main players that left, he is already looking for perfect replacement for them, so that the team will be stabilized. But we all just have to wait for the season to start and see how Manchester City is going to perform, lots of people have confidence in pep guardiola to maintain his good performance, but let’s wait for the season to start and let’s hope he won’t disappoint most of us that have confidence in him.

Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season. I don't think the coach will disappoint his fans in this season because Erling Haaland and other strikers are still there to make things happen in this season like last season that made them to embraced UEFA champions league title and premier league title. Based on the way other teams are bringing in new players in this season showed that they will make this season tough for Manchester city, but I still have confidence that Pep Guardiola will still help the team to win the title.

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July 31, 2023, 02:27:09 PM
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The last two seasons have been a nightmare for big teams like Barcelona and they probably don't want that to happen again in the Champions League next season. As a coach Xavi is fully responsible for the performance of the team he has built and as long as they can still prove their capacity then they will probably be much better later.
It is not about what they want or don't want, it is about their ability to play well and achieve good results. Barcelona have been playing worse in Champions League after losing Messi. But previous seasons, when they had Messi, all responsibilities were blamed on Messi unfairly. Now they have to pay the cost and accept the fact that their squad is not actually good and competitive, with or without Messi.
It's very natural that after losing Lionel Messi, Barcelona seemed to have lost a leader on the field and that was clearly felt. Even other players such as Sergio Bosquest and Jordi Alba also could not restore the confidence of every player. I think barcelona should have prepared for that and there's no way they will continue to rely on just one player. On the other hand, they also have to develop more and with a new squad, all the legacy of their seniors must continue with the same mentality. Maybe it's not appropriate for a team like Barcelona to experience this continuously and I think they have to break this bad result in the Champions League this season.

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July 31, 2023, 02:35:19 PM
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Barcelona cant repeat the shamefull performance of last two years, being stuck on group phase and falling into Europa League. So they are gonna be very akward on the draw this year.

Xavi its doing Barcelona play really good footbal, but in europe they are strugling to show that somehow. But i think with Gundogan its gonna be much more team than before, he was the key player they were missing.

I think right now, barcelona should not be thinking about doing well in the Champions League. They should concentrate in one competition only. And I genuinely believe that they have a better chance to win the La Liga titles instead of winning the Champions League. So even though some people are saying that Barcelona should be able to do better in European competitions, I am going to say that it is very understandable why they are not doing well in the Champions League. It’s because they are not even trying to. Last season, they went for the La Liga title and they have successfully achieved that. Let’s see what is the approach from them in this season.
Understandably, Barca may be eyeing other competitions because almost any club wants other competitions to improve the club good name and even though Barca doesn't have the best players at the moment, there's nothing wrong with trying their hardest to get the title and not just get the title in LaLiga.
Many have doubted Barca performance this season to win the title in the champions league on the grounds that they don't have the best players and also the players that are currently remaining are not like before who have strength in every game and I think there is no need to be disappointed with what will happen to Barca even though it failed in the champions league but at least getting the top position in LaLiga is much better.
I really appreciate Xavi efforts this season even though there are only normal players left but trying to strengthen the club performance to continue to survive like its former glory and I hope that in the coming season Barca finances will recover soon and get top players again to regain their former glory

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July 31, 2023, 02:52:13 PM
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Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season. I don't think the coach will disappoint his fans in this season because Erling Haaland and other strikers are still there to make things happen in this season like last season that made them to embraced UEFA champions league title and premier league title. Based on the way other teams are bringing in new players in this season showed that they will make this season tough for Manchester city, but I still have confidence that Pep Guardiola will still help the team to win the title.

Pep Guardiola is a manager who is quite good at assessing players, so agree with you that the departure of some of their core players who have successfully brought Manchester City to win the Champions League will not really affect the team's performance, maybe there will be adaptations for their new players but so far the players Manchester City have bought have always adapted well and when it is seen that they have not developed much there are players from the bench who are quite capable of covering that.
Some of the players who left Manchester City were old enough, so maybe they let these players go because as a routine form of squad renewal so that their team is always filled with young players so they can always compete well in every season.
Erling Haaland will be the foundation for Manchester City on the front lines, and this player is reportedly quite disciplined in training and keeping his body fit so City need not worry that he will experience a decline, especially at a very young age he will develop very well at City.

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July 31, 2023, 03:25:40 PM
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I can say currently Manchester City is the only team we know they can have hope for the next Champions League title with Pep Guardiola because they are still in good form and they could stay stable and keep the main players they need for the next season. Also, Guardiola is improving the team and we can see even stronger Manchester City in the next Champions League season.

Haaland and De Bruyne are the best in the world. There is no better striker than Haaland and no better midfielder than De Bruyne in my eyes. For this reason, they are the favorites of this cup for me as well. However, this is a tournament and tournaments have different atmospheres. Also, teams like Real Madrid, who have a lot of tournament habits, can always change the balance. That's why I see Manchester City as the first favorite in the Champions League, but I can't be sure because in this tournament the best in the world are competing and they are fighting to prove to everyone that they are the best.

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July 31, 2023, 03:32:22 PM
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Pep Guardiola will never regret for his decision to release some players in this summer, because his plan always bring good result at the end of the tournament, which I know that the players that left will not affect the Manchester city performance in this season. I don't think the coach will disappoint his fans in this season because Erling Haaland and other strikers are still there to make things happen in this season like last season that made them to embraced UEFA champions league title and premier league title. Based on the way other teams are bringing in new players in this season showed that they will make this season tough for Manchester city, but I still have confidence that Pep Guardiola will still help the team to win the title.

Like we have seen over the years, Pep Guardiola have been a very great and tactical coach which his achievements over the years for Manchester City can speak for him without an iota of falsehood. When he was allowing some players to leave and join other clubs without signing a new replacement for them, many would have thought the Manchester City squad will lose form and won’t be competent enough to battle for the title next season.

But I always have strong believe for Pep Guardiola’s decision, no one is perfect but I know he’s going to give other teams a tough time in the next season even though he’s not going to win the title for the second time consecutively again. Let’s not also forget that he has been with the club for some years now, and would have already breed upcoming young players to fit into the squad for next season. Manchester City will still be a tough team even in the next season’s champions league.

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