UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[CLS63]

Last season was full of surprises in the Champions League except Manchester City's championship.    To be honest Manchester City's making it was also surprising from a different point of view. They won the title for the first time in club history in the end which was the surprise. Otherwise they have been favoured for it highly for many years already.

The main surprises were to see Inter and Milan both in the semi finals. They were lucky to have a draw against each other there though. Because if both of them faced teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid in that stage the chance of their making it to the finale would have been lower.

But this tournament gets even more beautiful when we see different teams in the final stages as well. It becomes more intriguing to follow.

[Docnaster]

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The consequence for Mbappe if he insists on staying at PSG is that he will not get a prestigious title because of PSG's monotony which is only in and in power in domestic competitions only.
Reflecting on Haaland's case when he was at Dortmund he didn't get many titles both individually and in the club but when he met the right club (Manchester City) he turned into a terrible figure.
At the moment Mbappe can also still, he will not get anything if he continues at PSG (except only money) and maybe it would be much better if he looks for a new challenge by finding a club that suits him.

if this is true what you said can we speculate if Mbappe wants to continue his career to be successful must go through a transfer to Real Madrid to break through to the champions league final? I think this makes sense because if you just want a big salary PSG is the best place for that but if you want a better career maybe the chances of moving to Real Madrid are much better to get a title in the UCL.
but in fact we know that it is not that easy for us to speculate because Mbappe and PSG themselves have to go through this unfinished problem and it is difficult to find information that is really real. on the one hand Mbappe himself is still at PSG until next year and this is to be confused whether his contract will be extended or will only be sold.

A transfer to Real Madrid will be an excellent one for Mbappe. This I mean is that Real Madrid can give Mbappe trophies and as well as money. Real Madrid is not a small club such that they will not be able to pay a good player like Mbappe handsomely.
If Mbappe really wants the Champions League title, the best place to go is Real Madrid because it is Real Madrid and Manchester City that has great chances of winning the Champions League. I would have included Bayern Munich but I am not so much confident of Tuchel's Bayern.

[tusandii]

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A transfer to Real Madrid will be an excellent one for Mbappe. This I mean is that Real Madrid can give Mbappe trophies and as well as money. Real Madrid is not a small club such that they will not be able to pay a good player like Mbappe handsomely.
If Mbappe really wants the Champions League title, the best place to go is Real Madrid because it is Real Madrid and Manchester City that has great chances of winning the Champions League. I would have included Bayern Munich but I am not so much confident of Tuchel's Bayern.

If PSG let Mbappe go then I'm sure Real Madrid will try their best to get him because a player like Mbappe is not easy to come by.
Mbappe is also unlikely to accept a much lower offer because big money is part of being a great footballer.
Yes, but it all comes back to Mbappe's decision whether he wants to play for a much lower fee.

[swogerino]

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A transfer to Real Madrid will be an excellent one for Mbappe. This I mean is that Real Madrid can give Mbappe trophies and as well as money. Real Madrid is not a small club such that they will not be able to pay a good player like Mbappe handsomely.
If Mbappe really wants the Champions League title, the best place to go is Real Madrid because it is Real Madrid and Manchester City that has great chances of winning the Champions League. I would have included Bayern Munich but I am not so much confident of Tuchel's Bayern.

If PSG let Mbappe go then I'm sure Real Madrid will try their best to get him because a player like Mbappe is not easy to come by.
Mbappe is also unlikely to accept a much lower offer because big money is part of being a great footballer.
Yes, but it all comes back to Mbappe's decision whether he wants to play for a much lower fee.

He should never accept a lower fee,he is a superstar and as such he can only ask for super pay from Real Madrid or any other team that wants his services.Good players costs and superstar players cost a whole lot more so it would be not the wisest decision if Mbappe settle for less.We are seeing examples of Ronaldo and Messi who are near their end of their career asking astronomical amounts like 500 million Euros in 2 years for Ronaldo,since Mbappe is at his peak he should ask a whole lot more money because as I said he is a great player and settling for less is plain stupid.

[marcous]

Last season was full of surprises in the Champions League except Manchester City's championship.    To be honest Manchester City's making it was also surprising from a different point of view. They won the title for the first time in club history in the end which was the surprise. Otherwise they have been favoured for it highly for many years already.

The main surprises were to see Inter and Milan both in the semi finals. They were lucky to have a draw against each other there though. Because if both of them faced teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid in that stage the chance of their making it to the finale would have been lower.

But this tournament gets even more beautiful when we see different teams in the final stages as well. It becomes more intriguing to follow.

The luck factor in the Champions League starts at the group stage, the next step will depend on the hard work of the team. The most ideal Final Party is to bring together two clubs from different leagues, such as Inter Milan and Man City last season. We will see two clubs carrying their own distinctive style of play, and of course presenting an interesting spectacle for fans.

Several times the Champions League Final has brought together clubs in the same league and in the last decade it has been recorded five times, most recently Man City and Chelsea in the 2020-2021 season. However, each club's steps will be different until the final stage.

[Jody.Drummer]

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The consequence for Mbappe if he insists on staying at PSG is that he will not get a prestigious title because of PSG's monotony which is only in and in power in domestic competitions only.
Reflecting on Haaland's case when he was at Dortmund he didn't get many titles both individually and in the club but when he met the right club (Manchester City) he turned into a terrible figure.
At the moment Mbappe can also still, he will not get anything if he continues at PSG (except only money) and maybe it would be much better if he looks for a new challenge by finding a club that suits him.

if this is true what you said can we speculate if Mbappe wants to continue his career to be successful must go through a transfer to Real Madrid to break through to the champions league final? I think this makes sense because if you just want a big salary PSG is the best place for that but if you want a better career maybe the chances of moving to Real Madrid are much better to get a title in the UCL.
but in fact we know that it is not that easy for us to speculate because Mbappe and PSG themselves have to go through this unfinished problem and it is difficult to find information that is really real. on the one hand Mbappe himself is still at PSG until next year and this is to be confused whether his contract will be extended or will only be sold.

Yes Real Madrid is one of the best destinations if he wants a title which many players do, but if he wants something that makes him special then Real Madrid is not the place. We know that the owner of Real Madrid is not one to coddle a player, and I would be the same way if I were the manager of the club.
Yes I also agree with you that it will be difficult to realize, and certainly not as easy as we speculate, because the process that must be passed will be very long, especially we know that PSG is also still in the phase of wanting to keep him.

Last season was full of surprises in the Champions League except Manchester City's championship.    To be honest Manchester City's making it was also surprising from a different point of view. They won the title for the first time in club history in the end which was the surprise. Otherwise they have been favoured for it highly for many years already.

The main surprises were to see Inter and Milan both in the semi finals. They were lucky to have a draw against each other there though. Because if both of them faced teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid in that stage the chance of their making it to the finale would have been lower.

But this tournament gets even more beautiful when we see different teams in the final stages as well. It becomes more intriguing to follow.

Last season as for who won, I think it was easy to predict, especially after Mamcehster City got their revenge on Real Madrid. Even before that they were the big favorites, and in the end it really happened.
It was a good season for Serie A clubs, they were able to get back into the thick of things, even up until the final match which was represented by Inter Milan. AC Milan and Napoli also put on a good show.

Quite curious about what will happen next season, a lot of changes for sure, and that will make the competition different from last season.

[asriloni]

The UEFA Champions League is an extremely difficult competition in which the best four teams from each European league compete for the campaign championship. Bayern Munich is a challenging contender for the league title; they frequently lose a game. Perhaps during Julian Nagelsmann's administration at the Allianz Arena, the squad functioned effectively, but after bringing in Thomas Tuchel, the club began performing terribly. In his first season as Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel won the Bundesliga despite the club's terrible performance.

The club being forced to adapt with the new coach. That was also making the club performed so badly in the UCL last season. I think that tuchel will be more familiar with the club. In my opinion, if tuchel will come back stronger with bayern next season.

Tuchel was now reassembling the club again. Some popular name will come to the bayern. One of these names is walker which has been also signing a personal agreement with bayern. Bayern is gonna try to hard in UCL next season. People are feeling optimistic caused by the club will be coached by tuchel which was also winning UCL a few years ago with chelsea. It's quite hard to think how it will be going on. I meant bayern was winning with very big scores against mediocre team. The club must test itself to face a strong club in the pre season match.

It will be so good to see how good performance from the new formation of bayern. Kane will come soon. The player agrees in the personal term with bayern. I hope bayern will be also completing the deal to get kane from totenham.
I think that the come of kane will be improving the attacking line of bayern a lot.

[hahay]

I'm not going to say that we expect to see a miracle from Thomas Tuchel and his payers in the next season but the fact about ith coach is mostly about the experience he got in the champions league which can be usually for Bayern Munich which is the main reason for them to hire this coach.

The UEFA Champions League is an extremely difficult competition in which the best four teams from each European league compete for the campaign championship. Bayern Munich is a challenging contender for the league title; they frequently lose a game. Perhaps during Julian Nagelsmann's administration at the Allianz Arena, the squad functioned effectively, but after bringing in Thomas Tuchel, the club began performing terribly. In his first season as Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel won the Bundesliga despite the club's terrible performance.

Funny, how can you say the Nagelsmann era is good? Lol!
Because in fact, the Nagelsmann era at Bayern Munich made Bayern Munich's performance greatly decline, it was evident from the poor results Bayern Muich had last season because it did not have a stable and consistent performance in the Bundesliga. After all, when Tuchel became Bayern Munich's head coach, it was also very close to the end of the season, and Tuchel could not do better in a very short time like that. So, you really shouldn't be able to say and blame Tuchel badly because after all, it was Nagelsmann who started it all at that time for Bayern Munich, and not Tuchel. Lol!

[harapan]

I'm not going to say that we expect to see a miracle from Thomas Tuchel and his payers in the next season but the fact about ith coach is mostly about the experience he got in the champions league which can be usually for Bayern Munich which is the main reason for them to hire this coach.

The UEFA Champions League is an extremely difficult competition in which the best four teams from each European league compete for the campaign championship. Bayern Munich is a challenging contender for the league title; they frequently lose a game. Perhaps during Julian Nagelsmann's administration at the Allianz Arena, the squad functioned effectively, but after bringing in Thomas Tuchel, the club began performing terribly. In his first season as Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel won the Bundesliga despite the club's terrible performance.

I don't think hiring Thomas Tuchel was the right move from Bayern. He may have experience but I don't think he's the kind of manager that they like. Bayern struggled after Tuchel took over. While that may be because he's just coming, it may also be because he's not capable of the task. The fact that a manager is experienced doesn't mean he will be successful at any club he goes.
Based on the reinforcements that Bayern are trying to get this summer, they may win the league easily but they won't get to the semi final fof the champions league. There will be no real difference between Nagelsmann's Bayern Munich and Tuchel's

[Pandu Geddon]

I don't think hiring Thomas Tuchel was the right move from Bayern. He may have experience but I don't think he's the kind of manager that they like. Bayern struggled after Tuchel took over. While that may be because he's just coming, it may also be because he's not capable of the task. The fact that a manager is experienced doesn't mean he will be successful at any club he goes.
Based on the reinforcements that Bayern are trying to get this summer, they may win the league easily but they won't get to the semi final fof the champions league. There will be no real difference between Nagelsmann's Bayern Munich and Tuchel's

Negative sentiment has also been reported coming from several circles of Munich fans after Tuchel's arrival. because in fact, Tuchel was not very successful in forming the Chelsea team before. it's the whole performance, not because of Tuchel and Chelsea in the Champions League.
but we'll have to see how Tuchel will shape his squad in this summer's transfer window. if Tuchel has good players in his squad, maybe Munich can talk a lot in the Champions League. depending on which will be the priority.

[Distraction]

There are only two days left for the Champions League qualifier matches to begin. There is a Zalgiris - Galatasaray match among them also. This is technically a comfortable match for the Turkish side on paper. Besides Galatasaray have just announced that they have made another significant transfer.

They have added Wilfried Zaha also into their squad now. It was said that Galatasaray were planning to offer 8 million pounds a year to Zaha. As Crystal Palace have parted ways with him also there was no need for a transfer fee too. Maybe he is 30 years old but I believe he is still a quality player.

[piebeyb]

The luck factor in the Champions League starts at the group stage, the next step will depend on the hard work of the team. The most ideal Final Party is to bring together two clubs from different leagues, such as Inter Milan and Man City last season. We will see two clubs carrying their own distinctive style of play, and of course presenting an interesting spectacle for fans.

Several times the Champions League Final has brought together clubs in the same league and in the last decade it has been recorded five times, most recently Man City and Chelsea in the 2020-2021 season. However, each club's steps will be different until the final stage.

Yes, I felt that last season's match between Manchester City vs Intermilan, of course, had a different style of play where Intermilan, a club from Italy, was great at holding back attacks or let's say they had a great defense compared to clubs from the English league, that's why yesterday's final match was completely different from before and it was very impressive to see it.

A typical defense from the Italian league like Intermilan is really very good, it's just that there are gaps that Manchester City players can take advantage of to break into Intermilan's goal, it's really touching to see Manchester City win the league in a season where they always fail to win it and finally I saw him lift the UCL trophy too by completing the treble winner.

[Docnaster]

I'm not going to say that we expect to see a miracle from Thomas Tuchel and his payers in the next season but the fact about ith coach is mostly about the experience he got in the champions league which can be usually for Bayern Munich which is the main reason for them to hire this coach.

The UEFA Champions League is an extremely difficult competition in which the best four teams from each European league compete for the campaign championship. Bayern Munich is a challenging contender for the league title; they frequently lose a game. Perhaps during Julian Nagelsmann's administration at the Allianz Arena, the squad functioned effectively, but after bringing in Thomas Tuchel, the club began performing terribly. In his first season as Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel won the Bundesliga despite the club's terrible performance.

Thomas Tuchel of a truth might pull up a miracle by winning the UEFA Champions League competition next season but has the tactical experience and capacity to make Bayern Munich the European champions.
Having qualified two clubs from two different nations to the final of the competition in two successive years, there's no doubt that Tuchel can win the the European Cup next season with Bayern Munich and that I think will have more chances of happening if Bayern Munich can sign a world class striker this summer transfer window and if possible Harry Kane

[EarnOnVictor]

I'm not going to say that we expect to see a miracle from Thomas Tuchel and his payers in the next season but the fact about ith coach is mostly about the experience he got in the champions league which can be usually for Bayern Munich which is the main reason for them to hire this coach.

The UEFA Champions League is an extremely difficult competition in which the best four teams from each European league compete for the campaign championship. Bayern Munich is a challenging contender for the league title; they frequently lose a game. Perhaps during Julian Nagelsmann's administration at the Allianz Arena, the squad functioned effectively, but after bringing in Thomas Tuchel, the club began performing terribly. In his first season as Bayern Munich manager, Thomas Tuchel won the Bundesliga despite the club's terrible performance.

Thomas Tuchel of a truth might pull up a miracle by winning the UEFA Champions League competition next season but has the tactical experience and capacity to make Bayern Munich the European champions.
Having qualified two clubs from two different nations to the final of the competition in two successive years, there's no doubt that Tuchel can win the the European Cup next season with Bayern Munich and that I think will have more chances of happening if Bayern Munich can sign a world class striker this summer transfer window and if possible Harry Kane

Bayern did well in the group stage of last season, luck matters in the UCL too. And you think Harry Kane would do that miracle? Well, I believe it's about teamwork but I've not seen so much change that Tuchel has inculcated into the team since last season. Nonetheless, the first 3 months of the new season would speak so much about the team both at home and in the UCL. I don't believe that Bayern can get it right now, even when they have a very powerful team and are still dominant in the Bundesliga, they couldn't win the UCL.

I believe they need a better striker that is also fresh blood that can work with Harry Kane if signed. I mean someone like Victor Osimhen, but it seems that they are not even looking toward the guy's angle anymore.

[sana54210]

The consequence for Mbappe if he insists on staying at PSG is that he will not get a prestigious title because of PSG's monotony which is only in and in power in domestic competitions only.
Reflecting on Haaland's case when he was at Dortmund he didn't get many titles both individually and in the club but when he met the right club (Manchester City) he turned into a terrible figure.
At the moment Mbappe can also still, he will not get anything if he continues at PSG (except only money) and maybe it would be much better if he looks for a new challenge by finding a club that suits him.

if this is true what you said can we speculate if Mbappe wants to continue his career to be successful must go through a transfer to Real Madrid to break through to the champions league final? I think this makes sense because if you just want a big salary PSG is the best place for that but if you want a better career maybe the chances of moving to Real Madrid are much better to get a title in the UCL.
but in fact we know that it is not that easy for us to speculate because Mbappe and PSG themselves have to go through this unfinished problem and it is difficult to find information that is really real. on the one hand Mbappe himself is still at PSG until next year and this is to be confused whether his contract will be extended or will only be sold.

I believe he wanted both and he did both. How come? Well he got a ton of money from PSG, which he already got and will get the rest this season as well, this way he has covered the money part of his career, from here on out he could get paid a normal amount of money and that would be fine for him.

Instead of getting like 100+ million signing bonus and 60 million salary, he could accept something like more normal signing bonus, and maybe like 30-40 million a year salary, that way he would be in Real Madrid and get good results as well for his career. This allows him to both have money thanks to his PSG contract that is ending, but also have enough to move to Madrid later on and start having some good career in his future as well.

[Jody.Drummer]

The consequence for Mbappe if he insists on staying at PSG is that he will not get a prestigious title because of PSG's monotony which is only in and in power in domestic competitions only.
Reflecting on Haaland's case when he was at Dortmund he didn't get many titles both individually and in the club but when he met the right club (Manchester City) he turned into a terrible figure.
At the moment Mbappe can also still, he will not get anything if he continues at PSG (except only money) and maybe it would be much better if he looks for a new challenge by finding a club that suits him.

if this is true what you said can we speculate if Mbappe wants to continue his career to be successful must go through a transfer to Real Madrid to break through to the champions league final? I think this makes sense because if you just want a big salary PSG is the best place for that but if you want a better career maybe the chances of moving to Real Madrid are much better to get a title in the UCL.
but in fact we know that it is not that easy for us to speculate because Mbappe and PSG themselves have to go through this unfinished problem and it is difficult to find information that is really real. on the one hand Mbappe himself is still at PSG until next year and this is to be confused whether his contract will be extended or will only be sold.

I believe he wanted both and he did both. How come? Well he got a ton of money from PSG, which he already got and will get the rest this season as well, this way he has covered the money part of his career, from here on out he could get paid a normal amount of money and that would be fine for him.

Instead of getting like 100+ million signing bonus and 60 million salary, he could accept something like more normal signing bonus, and maybe like 30-40 million a year salary, that way he would be in Real Madrid and get good results as well for his career. This allows him to both have money thanks to his PSG contract that is ending, but also have enough to move to Madrid later on and start having some good career in his future as well.

Yes I understand what you mean, by him joining Paris Saint Germain it was enough to raise money, yes even though it sacrificed his career which should in my opinion be more than what he is getting now. Moreover, he is also still very young and still has a long way to go. Indeed, I personally regret it when he failed to join one of the giants in La Liga or even in the Champions League. But I hope that if the opportunity comes again to him, he should not miss that great opportunity.
I believe that players like him will be many clubs who want him, but still he must decide what is best for him.

[rahmad2nd]

Last season was full of surprises in the Champions League except Manchester City's championship.    To be honest Manchester City's making it was also surprising from a different point of view. They won the title for the first time in club history in the end which was the surprise. Otherwise they have been favoured for it highly for many years already.

The main surprises were to see Inter and Milan both in the semi finals. They were lucky to have a draw against each other there though. Because if both of them faced teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid in that stage the chance of their making it to the finale would have been lower.

But this tournament gets even more beautiful when we see different teams in the final stages as well. It becomes more intriguing to follow.

Since the inception of the Champions League, Manchester City have been in the favorites in this competition. the presence of Haaland, this team is increasingly feared. but what many football connoisseurs forget, is that City is not just about Haaland alone. in fact, they have players who really contribute on all fronts. all players, complement each other plus the system applied by Pep Guadiola. since Pep changed his pattern to 3-2-4-1, City is much stronger and even in every game they often score lots of goals. precisely what surprised one was the defeat of the two giant clubs from Germany and Spain, City was able to topple them with a score already.

For Milan, to be honest this team is far from my expectations. in fact, I tend not to enjoy when they go through their matches in the Champions League. For me, Milan's victory after victory cannot be separated from the luck factor. I have to be honest, from a neutral fan perspective. Unlike Inter, this team is far from the expectations I predicted.
In fact, I predict that Inter will be slaughtered by benfica. but the fact that happened was the opposite, Inzaghi was able to bring his team far to the final round. something worth appreciating. well, I'm not sure if a Serie A team can repeat it next season. I predict, there are several English teams that will go far in this competition for the next season.

[RockBell]

Last season was full of surprises in the Champions League except Manchester City's championship.    To be honest Manchester City's making it was also surprising from a different point of view. They won the title for the first time in club history in the end which was the surprise. Otherwise they have been favoured for it highly for many years already.

The main surprises were to see Inter and Milan both in the semi finals. They were lucky to have a draw against each other there though. Because if both of them faced teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid in that stage the chance of their making it to the finale would have been lower.

But this tournament gets even more beautiful when we see different teams in the final stages as well. It becomes more intriguing to follow.

I don't think the surprises were only for the champions league but also in the premier league everybody nobody would have believed that Arsenal will win the premier league and they fucked up along the line, and manchester city has taken advantage of all situations, and been the first time of winning the champions league, what got me angry is the fact that inter Milan, lost too many opportunities to have lost the champions league.

[shogun47]

The consequence for Mbappe if he insists on staying at PSG is that he will not get a prestigious title because of PSG's monotony which is only in and in power in domestic competitions only.
Reflecting on Haaland's case when he was at Dortmund he didn't get many titles both individually and in the club but when he met the right club (Manchester City) he turned into a terrible figure.
At the moment Mbappe can also still, he will not get anything if he continues at PSG (except only money) and maybe it would be much better if he looks for a new challenge by finding a club that suits him.

if this is true what you said can we speculate if Mbappe wants to continue his career to be successful must go through a transfer to Real Madrid to break through to the champions league final? I think this makes sense because if you just want a big salary PSG is the best place for that but if you want a better career maybe the chances of moving to Real Madrid are much better to get a title in the UCL.
but in fact we know that it is not that easy for us to speculate because Mbappe and PSG themselves have to go through this unfinished problem and it is difficult to find information that is really real. on the one hand Mbappe himself is still at PSG until next year and this is to be confused whether his contract will be extended or will only be sold.

I believe he wanted both and he did both. How come? Well he got a ton of money from PSG, which he already got and will get the rest this season as well, this way he has covered the money part of his career, from here on out he could get paid a normal amount of money and that would be fine for him.

Instead of getting like 100+ million signing bonus and 60 million salary, he could accept something like more normal signing bonus, and maybe like 30-40 million a year salary, that way he would be in Real Madrid and get good results as well for his career. This allows him to both have money thanks to his PSG contract that is ending, but also have enough to move to Madrid later on and start having some good career in his future as well.

Yes I understand what you mean, by him joining Paris Saint Germain it was enough to raise money, yes even though it sacrificed his career which should in my opinion be more than what he is getting now. Moreover, he is also still very young and still has a long way to go. Indeed, I personally regret it when he failed to join one of the giants in La Liga or even in the Champions League. But I hope that if the opportunity comes again to him, he should not miss that great opportunity.
I believe that players like him will be many clubs who want him, but still he must decide what is best for him.

I am also one of those who find it sad that he decided against all those great other clubs and instead play in Ligue 1 way below his real potential. But I sometimes wonder whether we would say and think the same if he won the Champions League once or twice with PSG: They have had the chance when they played against Bayern Munich in the final. Would it then be any different?

The money is so crazy that I can understand when someone decides to play in Paris instead of Madrid. It is the time of the career where you have less options to make financial mistakes. He had to decide between his financial future and his recognition as one of the best players in the world. He has shown that he is one of the best when he played the World Cups, but he now also is one of the richest in the sport as well.

[superman184]

I don't think the surprises were only for the champions league but also in the premier league everybody nobody would have believed that Arsenal will win the premier league and they fucked up along the line, and manchester city has taken advantage of all situations, and been the first time of winning the champions league, what got me angry is the fact that inter Milan, lost too many opportunities to have lost the champions league.

Last season, there were indeed those who felt disappointed and happy about the title won by Manchester City and Arsenal's failure to win the Premier League. But basically they all fought according to their abilities, including Inter Milan's efforts in the Champions League even though in the end Inter Milan did not get the title there. I also agree with what you said where the surprise is not only in the Champions League, but in other leagues it can also happen next season.