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October 29, 2023, 09:59:35 AM
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Barcelona did perform well in the Champions League but that does not mean Barcelona is the favorite in the Champions League because Barcelona it is facing a team that is not too difficult for to faced and Barcelona can lead Group H at the moment.
I thinks Barcelona still has a lot to learn because the competition in the UCL is very tight especially since they just suffered a defeat against Real Madrid so I don't think Barcelona has a chance to trophy in the Champions League this season.
in my opinion the strong candidates to win the title this season are Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid.
Barcelona performed well in UEFA Champion League depend with their group stage opponent teams, have won 3 of 3 matches its most impressive performed from Barcelona but they have weakness opponent teams such as FC Porto, Royal Antwerp and Shakhtar Donetsk. No doubt with Barcelona opportunity will qualify to next round but not sure they will have good result on knock out round, looking current standings in H, Barcelona one step closer will lead to next round behind 9 points and ahead 6 points from 3rd teams position standings Shakhtar Donetsk. For domestic league performed, we can see how poor performance with Barcelona exactly after losing from Real Madrid in el clasico match.
This season in UEFA Champion League, Barcelona get more lucky with group stage drawing and there are not strong opponent teams with Barcelona such as Bayern Munich and Inter Milan regarding last season Barcelona's opponent teams in Champion League.

 
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October 29, 2023, 10:04:04 AM
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Barcelona did perform well in the Champions League but that does not mean Barcelona is the favorite in the Champions League because Barcelona it is facing a team that is not too difficult for to faced and Barcelona can lead Group H at the moment.
I thinks Barcelona still has a lot to learn because the competition in the UCL is very tight especially since they just suffered a defeat against Real Madrid so I don't think Barcelona has a chance to trophy in the Champions League this season.
in my opinion the strong candidates to win the title this season are Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid.
Barcelona performed well in UEFA Champion League depend with their group stage opponent teams, have won 3 of 3 matches its most impressive performed from Barcelona but they have weakness opponent teams such as FC Porto, Royal Antwerp and Shakhtar Donetsk. No doubt with Barcelona opportunity will qualify to next round but not sure they will have good result on knock out round, looking current standings in H, Barcelona one step closer will lead to next round behind 9 points and ahead 6 points from 3rd teams position standings Shakhtar Donetsk. For domestic league performed, we can see how poor performance with Barcelona exactly after losing from Real Madrid in el clasico match.
This season in UEFA Champion League, Barcelona get more lucky with group stage drawing and there are not strong opponent teams with Barcelona such as Bayern Munich and Inter Milan regarding last season Barcelona's opponent teams in Champion League.

Barcelona needs more time to win the Champions League. I don't think they can win the champions league this season. Since it is a young team, the harmony of the players will increase over time. They may be playing well for now, but their performance may not be sufficient at the Champions League level.

This is not a criterion because the victories they won in the groups were not difficult matches. There are much better teams than Barcelona and I do not give Barcelona a chance this season.
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October 29, 2023, 10:14:39 AM
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Barcelona seem to be very lucky been grouped with Porto, Sharkhtar and Antwerp because clearly they are dominating in the group winning all three first legs and leading with nine points with Porto following behind with 6 points. It doesn’t look like Barcelona will lose even a game in this group, their future in the UCL this season looks very promising.
I believe that you made this statement before the Barcelona vs Real Madrid in the weekend where their we're defeated by a goal difference,  although the overall performance of Barcelona in the Champions League has been very impressive bit in the other leagues such as the La Liga,  the club is already gradually falling behind in the number of won games.

But if it is the UEFA then we can bank on the Barcelona squad to do something very impressive and much respected by the fans and even the other football spectators who may be interested in seeing the club win.
At least I believe that Barcelona will progress to the next stage easily. And it looks like Barcelona will indeed be one of the strong candidates this season in the Champions League. Because actually in the match against Barcelona in Laliga, I saw that Barcelona actually played very well. Even Gundogan was able to score a goal in the 6th minute of the match. Wasn't Real Madrid very careless at the start of the match? But yes, the Real Madrid that we know is a strong team with an even stronger mentality. Because in terms of performance, I think Barcelona and Real Madrid have equal strength. And actually the match almost ended in a draw. But Real Madrid was lucky because Bellingham was able to score another goal in the added minute of added time. Which made Barcelona have to admit their defeat in El Clasico. But after seeing this match, I feel more confident that Barcelona will indeed get good results in the Champions League.

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October 29, 2023, 10:20:30 AM
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only candidate from La Liga that looks more convincing is Real Madrid because in terms of performance Madrid players are better prepared to take on every match in UCL. on one hand, there are other goals in january Ancelotti will improve any existing weaknesses and replace players with new, more talented players. on the one hand, we have admitted that Barcelona does not have visible readiness for UCL match, so it is certain that the only viable candidate is Real Madrid.

but if we talk about candidates from other leagues, Man City is still the favorite as long they still have Haaland City opportunity is still wide open to win the title and regarding De Bruyne, Guardiola already has a way to find the right player to replace De Bruyne.
Seeing how Real Madrid can overcome its toughest opponents in Laliga increases the confidence of the Real Madrid squad to also perform well in this competition and indeed between Real Madrid and Barcelona, Real Madrid looks more convincing in the Champions League, and together with them I also see Bayern Munich is one of the teams that can go further and even reach the final, and Manchester City will still be the favorite here too, and of the three teams Inter Milan will probably also be able to go quite far, but who will be the champion is yet to be predicted because many things can happen, such as what happened to City who had to face difficulties because their mainstay player was injured for a long time whereas Kevin de Bruyne has been a reliable attack organizer in several successful seasons for Manchester City.

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October 29, 2023, 10:46:59 AM
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Barcelona needs more time to win the Champions League. I don't think they can win the champions league this season. Since it is a young team, the harmony of the players will increase over time. They may be playing well for now, but their performance may not be sufficient at the Champions League level.

This is not a criterion because the victories they won in the groups were not difficult matches. There are much better teams than Barcelona and I do not give Barcelona a chance this season.
At least they can beat Munich or Manchester City as the strongest clubs in the UCL including Madrid, it is certain that it is clearly very difficult for Barcelona to overcome and get past that club, Barcelona has a lot to fix to be able to become the best club and win the UCL title again after Having failed in the UCL for so long, I think Xavi has a tough task to bring Barcelona back to shine at the UCL level.

Even though there are several talented young players, it's not enough, Barcelona still doesn't look better, just look at yesterday's El Clasico match where they still couldn't beat Madrid, who have reached class at UCL level, I think it's still too early to predict anything about Barcelona. , they have to improve a lot of their shortcomings to be able to perform even better.

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October 29, 2023, 11:02:50 AM
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Barcelona seem to be very lucky been grouped with Porto, Sharkhtar and Antwerp because clearly they are dominating in the group winning all three first legs and leading with nine points with Porto following behind with 6 points. It doesn’t look like Barcelona will lose even a game in this group, their future in the UCL this season looks very promising.
I believe that you made this statement before the Barcelona vs Real Madrid in the weekend where their we're defeated by a goal difference,  although the overall performance of Barcelona in the Champions League has been very impressive bit in the other leagues such as the La Liga,  the club is already gradually falling behind in the number of won games.

But if it is the UEFA then we can bank on the Barcelona squad to do something very impressive and much respected by the fans and even the other football spectators who may be interested in seeing the club win.

Every team has several weaknesses. Barcelona's performance is erratic. In La Liga, they could not occupy the top spot in the table. Real Madrid is playing very well it is true. However, the attacking side of this team is quite weak. Real Madrid are reliant on their midfielders. Manchester City's squad looks very strong but the City's midfield is quite weak without De Bruyne. And because of this, City's performance is also a bit slow compared to the previous season. All teams have some weaknesses. This is why it is difficult to predict which team will win the Champions League title this season. Despite Barcelona's erratic performance, this team will also be considered favorites for the Champions League title. Because they have an excellent squad.
I think that the most favorites club to win UCL this season will not be changing. City and real madrid will always become the favorite clubs to win the current season. In fact, city is still getting perfect result in the group stage as well as real madrid.
I won't count barcelona caused by this club is only lucky to be placed in the easy team. There may be also PSG who will become a good candidate to go to the final but it has not good bound.
Im not even seeing barcelon as the most favorite club to win UCL this time. City, real madrid and bayern are the most favorites club to win the UCL trophy. you can also imagine that if barcelona will face bayern. There will be also another amazing match like when bayern destroyed barcelona with huge scores.
Barcelona is not as competitive as real madrid, bayern and manchester city this time. Im sure barcelona will struggle when it will face those clubs.

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October 29, 2023, 11:11:53 AM
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
I think domestic matches and matches in the Champions League are very different, even though they lost against Real Madrid, Barca still has a chance to perform much better in Champions League because I'm quite sure that Xavi knows how to divide his performance well to be able to work hard. in the champions league to try to appear strong with the players he has and it is proven that in this champions league Barca is able to perform very well to be able to qualify for the next round showing everyone doubts that Barcelona will at least continue to win in every match in this champions league.

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October 29, 2023, 11:42:55 AM
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I think domestic matches and matches in the Champions League are very different, even though they lost against Real Madrid, Barca still has a chance to perform much better in Champions League because I'm quite sure that Xavi knows how to divide his performance well to be able to work hard. in the champions league to try to appear strong with the players he has and it is proven that in this champions league Barca is able to perform very well to be able to qualify for the next round showing everyone doubts that Barcelona will at least continue to win in every match in this champions league.
Personally I don't think the loss Barcelona suffered against Real Madrid in their domestic league will in any way be a problem to them I'm the champions league because Real Madrid is way better when compared to their next opponent in the UCL Shakhtar Donetsk, with Real Madrid I could consider that loss a fair one even if it was sad they Barcelona was leading before they later lost at home.

Definitely Barcelona will do much better in the UCl regardless of that performance in the la Liga over the weekend, they are in a group where they look like the most superior when compared to everyother team in the same group, over the week, we will be having the fourth round of the UCL where Barcelona will be playing against Shakhtar Donetsk from away but I don't see any advantage on the side of Shakhtar Donetskim this fixture.

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October 29, 2023, 12:08:53 PM
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Barcelona needs more time to win the Champions League. I don't think they can win the champions league this season. Since it is a young team, the harmony of the players will increase over time. They may be playing well for now, but their performance may not be sufficient at the Champions League level.

This is not a criterion because the victories they won in the groups were not difficult matches. There are much better teams than Barcelona and I do not give Barcelona a chance this season.
It's true, the current Barcelona squad is not yet mature enough to win the Champions League title and even though it has several experienced players, complete maturity is still needed if you want to win the title. Barcelona has been on hiatus for 7 years in the race for the Champions League title and even now they still don't look like a strong candidate to win.

The group phase is the easiest place for them to qualify and moreover they are in a group filled with teams that are not that strong so to advance to the round of 16 it would be very open, but if they were to be in the quarter finals it would be very difficult for them face other strong teams.
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October 29, 2023, 12:13:08 PM
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I think his post is nothing to do with the match between Barcelona vs Real Madrid. It is true that Barcelona is dominating group H, they always win every match and be the leader of group H now. It is very obvious that Barcelona performance in UCL looks impressive so far. However, it is still in group phase, we don't know how Barcelona can maintain the good form when the group phase is over (knockout phase).

I don't want to conclude how far Barcelona to compete in UCL based on the result on La Liga. Sometimes, the performance in UCL and local competition can be different or contradictory (opposite). Although Barcelona looks dropping their performance in La Liga, how knows if they can play better in UCL.

It all depends on who they meet at the 1/8 final stage. At the moment, Barcelona have average results - in La Liga they have drawn three times with weak teams and once lost the game to a strong team (Real Madrid). With no other big games Barcelona have had this season, it was hard to tell how good or bad they were overall. But if at the 1/8 stage they come across someone strong, then I am sure that Barcelona will be the underdog.

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October 29, 2023, 12:18:00 PM
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I think it's still too early to predict anything about Barcelona. , they have to improve a lot of their shortcomings to be able to perform even better.
Barcelona fans and their hierarchy have to be very patient with Xavi, they cannot win the CL this season, and i don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, last season Xavi managed to win the LaLiga, but they were eliminated from the CL in the group stage. There is progress this season, because they have won 3 out of 3 in their group and they are almost certain to qualify, but how far can they go? I don't think it is possible for Barcelona to go past the QF stage of the CL this season, they were used to being contenders of the CL every season, but not anymore and their fans have to live with it.
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.

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October 29, 2023, 12:53:17 PM
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We can't judge Barcelona like this, we know Xavi is a great coach but we can't forget that Barcelona has many financial issues and this team couldn't buy the players Xavi needs to have. In fact, even if Xavi is the best coach in the world still he needs better players, I think that's why they lost the El Classico game recently against Real Madrid in La Liga.
I think that people need to stop to use financial issues as excuses. Barcelona has also a good quality of club. It doesn't even make sense to keep say that financial issued as the problem that was preventing barcelona to win the game. Barcelona has not yet paid its transfer fees to the other clubs. No reason to use it as a way to not judge him. In fact, those guys being chosen by xavi itself and barcelona bought them all with all of money.

Who is the guy intitiating lewandowski or even felix to be bought from another club? It's xavi. That's why stop to call him as a best coach in the world. Barcelona does have high quality players on its club.
Some garbage clubs like girona has only a few quality players on its club compared with barcelona but the coach was able changing the club a lot. That being said that when there will be more people to join in the club didn't also guarantee if the club can win the game.

I think that it's a common thing to blame xavi for his fault caused by he has responsibility over his club. This is the main concern for xavi about how to implement a better strategy.
Laporta was making a move based on xavi's request.

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October 29, 2023, 01:24:07 PM
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I think it's still too early to predict anything about Barcelona. , they have to improve a lot of their shortcomings to be able to perform even better.
Barcelona fans and their hierarchy have to be very patient with Xavi, they cannot win the CL this season, and i don't think it is going to happen anytime soon, last season Xavi managed to win the LaLiga, but they were eliminated from the CL in the group stage. There is progress this season, because they have won 3 out of 3 in their group and they are almost certain to qualify, but how far can they go? I don't think it is possible for Barcelona to go past the QF stage of the CL this season, they were used to being contenders of the CL every season, but not anymore and their fans have to live with it.

You've said your own opinion on how the season will be for Barcelona. The board members and management are not applying pressure on Xavi Hernandez. Yes, he is a Barcelona legend and they give time to them legends just like they did with Koeman.
Barcelona has whatever it takes to win the Champions League, they have experienced players that have won the Champions League final.

They could go on winning the next three fixtures in the group, that I double doubt because of Porto who are right behind them.  Players like, IIkay Gundogan, Robert Lewandoski, Marcos Alonso and lastly, Christensen has experience. They have the players and depth to win too.

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October 29, 2023, 01:37:52 PM
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I think that people need to stop to use financial issues as excuses. Barcelona has also a good quality of club. It doesn't even make sense to keep say that financial issued as the problem that was preventing barcelona to win the game. Barcelona has not yet paid its transfer fees to the other clubs. No reason to use it as a way to not judge him. In fact, those guys being chosen by xavi itself and barcelona bought them all with all of money.

Who is the guy intitiating lewandowski or even felix to be bought from another club? It's xavi. That's why stop to call him as a best coach in the world. Barcelona does have high quality players on its club.
Some garbage clubs like girona has only a few quality players on its club compared with barcelona but the coach was able changing the club a lot. That being said that when there will be more people to join in the club didn't also guarantee if the club can win the game.

I think that it's a common thing to blame xavi for his fault caused by he has responsibility over his club. This is the main concern for xavi about how to implement a better strategy.
Laporta was making a move based on xavi's request.
I think there is nothing to blame when the club doesn't get good results, Barcelona tried their best and they were unlucky, Madrid deserves appreciation. I also understand that victory is not achieved by luck alone, but rather by going through such a preparation stage. El Clasico matches always absorb a lot of emotion, giving rise to various reactions from fans, but what is clear is that we have seen matches like this many times, and we have also seen both of them beat each other in the past.

Overall I quite enjoyed the match, and Bellingham was the difference in last edition of El Clasiko. Despite Barcelona defeat, this is not a game that completely determines the end of the season, I mean there are 27 more games ahead, and we never know how the season will end.

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October 29, 2023, 02:24:25 PM
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Several teams that have consistently won in the last 3 Champions League matches are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Barcelona. I think these four teams will only need 2 more wins to maintain their chances of safely qualifying for the next round and I think it will be quite easy for them. For Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, perhaps they are in a quite difficult group because Manchester United and Napoli are predicted to disrupt their chances, but it seems that is no longer a problem. On the other hand, Manchester City and Barcelona are in a group filled mostly with weak teams and I think it will be easier for both of them to secure points in the next match without any problems.
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October 29, 2023, 03:33:34 PM
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Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.
In the Champions League Barcelona has quite the advantage over the teams that are not that strong in group H, but in La Liga Barcelona is still able to be beaten by its true rivals like yesterday at home so it is appropriate for Barcelona to use young players in their squad without more reliance on aging main players. I also think that in the Champions League this season Barcelona will not run smoothly because there are many strong teams that will be obstacles for him, but in La Liga Barcelona still has the opportunity to make improvements in order to advance to first place this season.
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October 29, 2023, 03:35:11 PM
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I don't think the Barcelona squad is very strong. There are weaknesses in the Barcelona squad. Still, this squad has the ability to perform well against the big teams. Barcelona lost yesterday against Madrid. But there is no way to say that Barcelona's performance was too bad. Barcelona played well but luck was not with them. However, Xavi still needs to work on making the team more stable. If you want to win the Champions League title, you must come to take more consistency in Barcelona's performance. Without consistency of performance, it is not possible to do well in the Champions League. Xavi is a very hardworking coach. It is expected that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League this season.
Xavi Hernandez would encourage his new young players to suit up for the main squad, because it's time to elevate the team to the next level, no longer counting on the primary players, but rather sticking to future plans, which are the young players who are eager to start for the team, which might crumble currently, but they will definitely become stronger in games. I doubt Barcelona will reach a vital stage in the UEFA Champions League this season because they are woefully underperforming in La Liga but are yet to show any signs in UCL competition.

They are bad in La Liga? Are you not wrong to say that?
They're in 3rd place now and is that a bad thing? Sure, they may have lost a big game yesterday, but they can't say it was because they played badly, especially since it was a very draining game and they didn't have a ful squad.
I think they are much better now, although not as good as in their heyday, but if we compare with the previous season then we will see they are much better.
There is still hope for them in the Champions League, at least they can provide competition and not fall in the group stages.

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October 29, 2023, 03:45:55 PM
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Newcastle who are playing in the UEFA Champions League competition for the first time in over 20 years were very unlucky to find themselves in a group that is believed to be the most difficult of all the group in the competition this season.
However, they've not been really poor with their results this season and after drawing their first game in the competition this season, they defeated the group F favorite team to win the group which is Paris Saint Germaine before they were narrowly beaten by Borussia Dortmund during this week. I think they're still very likely to progress to the next stage of the competition abd that they must win Dortmund when they host the German club in two weeks time to increase their chances of qualifying from the group.
Newcastle United still has hope in Group F because there are 3 more matches remaining which can change everything. For now, PSG may be the strongest, but these four teams will of course change positions in the standings table in the next 3 matches. Indeed, previously many thought that Newcastle United would not be able to compete with the other 3 teams because they had been absent for a long time in the Champions League. But in the matches they played, of course they were able to put pressure on their opponents.

For the time being, AC Milan may be having a bad rally in Group F because they have not managed to win in the 3 matches they have played. Even though they still have a chance to take second place, I doubt their quality this season. In my opinion AC Milan will probably be eliminated earlier in the Champions League this season.

Newcastle United definitely has hope, but it is going to be really hard.  Now the thing is they are on the third position and it is still very much possible for them to qualify. However the problem is the whole group is made up of really strong teams, so they will have to work  really hard to win against these teams.  I can see right now Dortmund and Newcastle United has same points, but I don't understand why Newcastle is on the third position because they have a better goal difference compared to Dortmund. But I'm sure it is going to change, so I think we don't have to worry about that too much.

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October 29, 2023, 03:52:40 PM
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Several teams that have consistently won in the last 3 Champions League matches are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City and Barcelona. I think these four teams will only need 2 more wins to maintain their chances of safely qualifying for the next round and I think it will be quite easy for them. For Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, perhaps they are in a quite difficult group because Manchester United and Napoli are predicted to disrupt their chances, but it seems that is no longer a problem. On the other hand, Manchester City and Barcelona are in a group filled mostly with weak teams and I think it will be easier for both of them to secure points in the next match without any problems.
Even some of them only need 1 more win to ensure themselves will qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this season. They swept all their matches with a win and even the victories they got had no significant obstacles.
I know it's too early to say this, but I'm pretty sure the 4 teams you mentioned will be in the round of 16. I also know anything can happen in football, but looking at the opponents they will face, at least 2 wins is realistic for them.

Meanwhile, the competition in group F is still very tight with a very tight point difference from the 4 teams that are joined there.

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