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May 26, 2024, 11:19:26 AM
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That's true and it has been proven that Real Madrid has a high enough mentality that any opponent will be afraid to face Real Madrid in the final match.
However, for this season's Champions League final, I think it will be a little different because Dortmund is a non-seeded team so they don't have any burden to play in the Champions League final against Real Madrid and this is an advantage for Dortmund who don't have targets or burdens so they play loose.

Next weekend, it won't be long and I'm sure the Champions League final match this season will be fierce and I don't think it's even possible that there will be a surprise like in the Europa League final when Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen.

It's good to discuss this and respond to some quality posts here that know what they are talking about. However, as I mentioned in my previous post i will stick with my prediction that even if Real Madrid wins the finals, it will be in a difficult way only. Dortmund will be a strong and resilient opponent, as they will throw all their chances and attempt to score early in the first minutes so then play counter attacks beside a good defense as we have seen their strong defense against PSG.
Real Madrid also prefers teams that primarily defend, but the issue is that most of the time they become overconfident and neglect smaller opponents. Therefore I expect a scenario where Real Madrid concedes a goal and then tries to draw the score and win the match at the very last minutes. This kind of scenario with Real Madrid is very entertaining to watch but also quite stressful for us as fans.

Both teams now have plenty of time to prepare and study each other’s techniques. The coaches will play the most role here. Both teams have experienced and strong players but in my opinion, the coach will make the difference. Also, I would say that betting on this match is very risky since we can't even predict the total number of goals for example.

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May 26, 2024, 11:46:13 AM
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Both teams now have plenty of time to prepare and study each other’s techniques. The coaches will play the most role here. Both teams have experienced and strong players but in my opinion, the coach will make the difference. Also, I would say that betting on this match is very risky since we can't even predict the total number of goals for example.
Yes, it's true that it's difficult to predict because Dortmund could give Madrid a surprise, like in the UEL final yesterday where Atalanta beat Leverkusen with a landslide score in the final and I'm sure many people lost their bets because they chose Leverkusen, therefore this UCL final even though Madrid is still in the top Of course, Madrid has to be careful when facing Dortmund because of course they will definitely look for ways to learn how to play Madrid and how to put pressure on Madrid to be able to control the match and score goals.

You are right that now they have time to learn each other's strength techniques, the point is to read the opponent's playing style where of course both of them will really want to win in the final match, Madrid wants to win their 15th title and Dortmund also wants to win it because it has been a long time not winning the UCL trophy, so far both of them have played quite well in the UCL and of course they will definitely show their best game, no one can be underestimated in this final match because both of them are great teams who deserve to enter the UCL final and they have the same strength.

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May 26, 2024, 03:15:42 PM
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When Real Madrid is in the final match, believe me they are a team that will be 2x more difficult to beat if we compare it to matches other than the final match, and that is based on existing data where their winning percentage in the final match is very high, and that proves that they are a team that has a very strong mentality.

It is not easy to compete in the final, because all the pressure will be heavier and if a team is not ready or does not have a good mentality, then it could be said that they will lose before competing.   But on the other hand, I also don't underestimate the mentality that Borussia Dortmund has, because after all they are one of the big teams and they are the best team that can qualify for the Champions League final. So they will also show their good game. I can't wait to watch this match and I hope what I want to see happens in this match.
That's true and it has been proven that Real Madrid has a high enough mentality that any opponent will be afraid to face Real Madrid in the final match.
However, for this season's Champions League final, I think it will be a little different because Dortmund is a non-seeded team so they don't have any burden to play in the Champions League final against Real Madrid and this is an advantage for Dortmund who don't have targets or burdens so they play loose.

Next weekend, it won't be long and I'm sure the Champions League final match this season will be fierce and I don't think it's even possible that there will be a surprise like in the Europa League final when Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen.
If we look at the statistics and reputation of the two teams, then we are quite confident in saying that the chances of a surprise happening are very low, and Madrid really deserves to be the favorite. I don't mean to underestimate Dortmund, but all bettors definitely see Madrid as a team that has a better chance of winning the Champions League trophy than Dortmund, it's clear that everyone has their own perception.

Talking about winning mentality, I think we can easily guess too, who has a better mentality, and also who will be able to manage pressure well, Madrid in this case is certainly better. Even though Dortmund managed to reach the final, their struggle was not as difficult as that faced by Madrid in the previous round, so it is natural to consider the Bundesliga representatives as an unseeded team.

On the other hand, the results of the Europa League final between Atalanta and Leverkusen may change the view of some bettors, that there is always another possibility such as a miracle in football. Likewise, the Champions League final, all these possibilities could happen, even though theoretically we put Madrid as the top team.

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May 26, 2024, 03:17:49 PM
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You don't expect a manager that's led a different teams to the UEFA Champions League Final on six different occasions to underestimate the strength of his opponents in the final of the competition. Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti already knows what Borussia Dortmund can do if they get any chance and would definitely not give them that chance. Borussia Dortmund didn't win any trophy this season so they're coming to that final with the hope of winning the trophy and Real Madrid players and manager fully understands that part. Real Madrid is simply the better team between the two teams and I expect them to beat their opponents in the final
Every manager has different tactics in playing their role on the field, especially in this final match. Every manager will definitely prepare a really mature strategy to beat his opponent. Edin Terzic will definitely be carefull can he might have read Carlo Anceloti's tactics just like Gasperini who can read Xabi Alonso's tactics so that he can beat an undefeated club, it could be Edin Terzic too, we can't underestimate underdog clubs because anything can happen, this is a big match and these clubs definitely want to do their best to create a satisfying ending.
you can't compare what happened between Atalanta and Bayern Leverkusen at the UEFA Europa League finals what's going to play out in tge champions league finals between real Madrid and Dortmund. Atalanta where the better teams with experience and energetic player and were involved in there games even before the encounter. Leverkusen unbeaten run didn't make them the better side at all and they were only lucky to have had no loss but lots of draw that they always manage to steal from thier opponents towards the end of the game. This is not same with what's going to happen in the real Madrid game against Dortmund in the champions league finals. Real Madrid is the better team In this case and is the favorite to winning the champions league. It's not just that statistics shows it so but from the angle of the individual player performance and to the quality of there coach and the fact that they are defending champions, its most likey that tgey will still win the champions league again.

My little concern is when I look at what played out yesterday at the FA cup finals between Manchester United and Manchester City were city lost to Manchester United, it's certainly going to boost the moral of the Dortmund team to assume that they can manage to pull something out of the match. Also, real Madrid drew there last match against a much weaker team and while fans might assume that they didn't want to take the match seriously, the Dortmunds team will want to take something out of the match cause if you critically analyse what led to real Madrid inability to scoring in Thier last match, you will notice that the team they played against played almost same pattern of football like real Madrid and were as attacking minded as real Madrid which kind of disorganized them. Dortmund is also good in terms of thier attacks and would most likely bring it on to it peak in the finals but real Madrid quality in terms of delivering all those true passes is the added advantage that will be of the greatest help they will have to rely on in the all important champions league finals.

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May 26, 2024, 03:24:24 PM
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When Real Madrid is in the final match, believe me they are a team that will be 2x more difficult to beat if we compare it to matches other than the final match, and that is based on existing data where their winning percentage in the final match is very high, and that proves that they are a team that has a very strong mentality.

It is not easy to compete in the final, because all the pressure will be heavier and if a team is not ready or does not have a good mentality, then it could be said that they will lose before competing.   But on the other hand, I also don't underestimate the mentality that Borussia Dortmund has, because after all they are one of the big teams and they are the best team that can qualify for the Champions League final. So they will also show their good game. I can't wait to watch this match and I hope what I want to see happens in this match.
Terzic has long shown his ambition, the guy is only 41 years old and he is already playing in the Champions League final, this is in any case a huge achievement and a plus for his experience. Another question is that Ancelotti has much more experience and will have a frankly stronger team, so it will be very difficult for Terzic to beat such an experienced coach. The first thing Terzic needs to think about is a solid defense, because Real will attack a lot, and Dortmund will have to rely on counterattacks, at least that’s how I see this final.

Dortmund have proven to us that they are one of the teams with good defense this season in the Champions League. Dortmund only conceded 4 goals in 6 group stage matches against Milan, PSG and Newcastle. So in my opinion Dortmund has proven that its defense is reliable, in fact Dortmund only conceded a total of 9 goals from the group stage to reaching the final.

Dortmund's problem may be their low goal productivity, while their defense is quite strong. Real Madrid is more productive than Dortmund, but Real Madrid has a weaker defense in terms of the number of goals conceded. This season's final is certainly very interesting because both teams have different games and strategies, but I don't expect the match to be boring and monotonous because of Real Madrid's dominance in building attacks.

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Real Madrid very rarely loses in the Champions League final, if one expects Real Madrid to fail to win the title, then don't let them reach the final. Real Madrid can almost always be guaranteed to win the Champions League title every time they are in the final, it is not a coincidence or luck, but a tradition that we often see as a reality.

But can Real Madrid still be beaten? Of course you can, but it's really hard to expect them to lose in the final stages. The Europa League Final and the FA Cup Final teach us something, that not all favorites can win.
Madrid certainly have everything they need to face the final later, mentality, performance, and also the quality of the team to face Dortmund later, but still it also cannot guarantee they can beat Dortmund easily later, especially if we see in Dortmund's journey to the final they managed to beat a favorite team like PSG who did have quality and also better performance than Dortmund,  the Champions League final is a prestigious final and of course the tactics and strategies applied by both coaches can be the difference and determinant of victory from both teams in the final match later.

I think the Europa League final a few weeks ago can be our reference to no longer tend to make the favorite team as champions in the final match, because there is really no team that cannot be beaten so far even though no matter how great the team has been, no matter how great Madrid is at this time, of course there is still a gap for a team to beat them,  Moreover, we know that Dortmund certainly also has the motivation to be able to beat Madrid and of course to win the Champions League trophy in the final match later.

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May 26, 2024, 03:49:42 PM
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Every manager has different tactics in playing their role on the field, especially in this final match. Every manager will definitely prepare a really mature strategy to beat his opponent. Edin Terzic will definitely be carefull can he might have read Carlo Anceloti's tactics just like Gasperini who can read Xabi Alonso's tactics so that he can beat an undefeated club, it could be Edin Terzic too, we can't underestimate underdog clubs because anything can happen, this is a big match and these clubs definitely want to do their best to create a satisfying ending.

We don't know yet whether Dortmund will bring home the trophy or not because Dortmund still has a chance to win the Champions League trophy. Real Madrid is indeed the best club in Europe, but that doesn't mean it can't lose. In fact, Real Madrid could be beaten by Manchester City because of Pep Guardiola's smart tactics last season, who knows, this season, because of Dortmund coach smart tactics, Real Madrid suffered a defeat. But what is certain is that many people will Real Madrid's favorites and their fans around the world have quite a lot of support, which can make Real Madrid even more confident in the final.
 It’s a UCL final and you don’t expect a great coach like Ancelotti not to take the final match with all carefulness. He’s past this stage before and of course know how much he needs to prepare his team for the final especially against Dortmund. This Dortmund side, he knows they look small but they have nothing to lose and if they win they will go down in history books.
 
We will see great tactics from both managers as this is a final and they wouldn’t relax but prepare vigorously for the match. Just like Atalanta using great tactics to counter Leverkusen’s, Dortmund will come with same pattern but might not work this time. Yes we know how the small teams could probably end up winning the trophy but against Real Madrid you have to be very very prepared.
 
 Yes we know football is unpredictable but to maneuver Real Madrid you have to be real ready both players fitness and tactically. That was done by Pep last season and sincerely I don’t think that will be repeated this season especially with Real huge experience in the UCL final. of course Dortmund have a chance, they are in the finals but I don’t like giving false hopes as you can see how large the Real Madrid fan base is. I think the fan base is enough motivation for Real Madrid to go on and lift their 15th UCL title as I don’t think there will be any surprises in the match.
 
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May 26, 2024, 04:06:16 PM
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When Real Madrid is in the final match, believe me they are a team that will be 2x more difficult to beat if we compare it to matches other than the final match, and that is based on existing data where their winning percentage in the final match is very high, and that proves that they are a team that has a very strong mentality.

It is not easy to compete in the final, because all the pressure will be heavier and if a team is not ready or does not have a good mentality, then it could be said that they will lose before competing.   But on the other hand, I also don't underestimate the mentality that Borussia Dortmund has, because after all they are one of the big teams and they are the best team that can qualify for the Champions League final. So they will also show their good game. I can't wait to watch this match and I hope what I want to see happens in this match.
Terzic has long shown his ambition, the guy is only 41 years old and he is already playing in the Champions League final, this is in any case a huge achievement and a plus for his experience. Another question is that Ancelotti has much more experience and will have a frankly stronger team, so it will be very difficult for Terzic to beat such an experienced coach. The first thing Terzic needs to think about is a solid defense, because Real will attack a lot, and Dortmund will have to rely on counterattacks, at least that’s how I see this final.

Dortmund have proven to us that they are one of the teams with good defense this season in the Champions League. Dortmund only conceded 4 goals in 6 group stage matches against Milan, PSG and Newcastle. So in my opinion Dortmund has proven that its defense is reliable, in fact Dortmund only conceded a total of 9 goals from the group stage to reaching the final.

Dortmund's problem may be their low goal productivity, while their defense is quite strong. Real Madrid is more productive than Dortmund, but Real Madrid has a weaker defense in terms of the number of goals conceded. This season's final is certainly very interesting because both teams have different games and strategies, but I don't expect the match to be boring and monotonous because of Real Madrid's dominance in building attacks.
Madrid's defense line is indeed weak compared to Dortmund if calculated by the number of goals conceded. But Madrid has a strong and fast front line. And they are all capable of scoring goals, meaning it doesn't depend on one player. Vini, Rodry, Brahim are young players who are reliable and fast. Can Dortmund's defense stop them? Bellingham, Valverde are also players who are ready on all fronts. Aurelien and Camavinga are midfield players, but are ready to play in defensive positions. I think this is something that Real Madrid has an advantage that other clubs in general don't have.

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May 26, 2024, 04:26:35 PM
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Madrid's defense line is indeed weak compared to Dortmund if calculated by the number of goals conceded. But Madrid has a strong and fast front line. And they are all capable of scoring goals, meaning it doesn't depend on one player. Vini, Rodry, Brahim are young players who are reliable and fast. Can Dortmund's defense stop them? Bellingham, Valverde are also players who are ready on all fronts. Aurelien and Camavinga are midfield players, but are ready to play in defensive positions. I think this is something that Real Madrid has an advantage that other clubs in general don't have.

Real Madrid defense line is weak you think? I don't agree with you. I accept that Dortmund have been really successful in defense recently. Luck has also played a good role as for example PSG had so many shots hitting the post as I must have said before. However I can't still trust their defense that much honestly. For example they are way worse than Real Madrid on that when it comes to domestic league performances.

Otherwise I'm okay with watching a different champion here.  Smiley  Real Madrid have been dominating the Champions League so far. It has been like 17 years since Dortmund won it the last time. It wouldn't be bad to see them putting an end to this longing.  Smiley

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May 26, 2024, 04:28:38 PM
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Dortmund have proven to us that they are one of the teams with good defense this season in the Champions League. Dortmund only conceded 4 goals in 6 group stage matches against Milan, PSG and Newcastle. So in my opinion Dortmund has proven that its defense is reliable, in fact Dortmund only conceded a total of 9 goals from the group stage to reaching the final.

Dortmund's problem may be their low goal productivity, while their defense is quite strong. Real Madrid is more productive than Dortmund, but Real Madrid has a weaker defense in terms of the number of goals conceded. This season's final is certainly very interesting because both teams have different games and strategies, but I don't expect the match to be boring and monotonous because of Real Madrid's dominance in building attacks.
Conceding 4 goals during matches in the Champions League this season can be considered as a team that has a good defense compared to Real Madrid which has conceded 7 goals.
We also shouldn't forget that Real Madrid excelled in scoring goals during this season's Champions League start. Madrid recorded 16 goals. Dortmund is weak when it comes to scoring goals.

Interesting and there will be surprises. Don't ask what the surprise is. Maybe the surprise is like the final of the competition next door.
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May 26, 2024, 04:34:54 PM
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Madrid's defense line is indeed weak compared to Dortmund if calculated by the number of goals conceded. But Madrid has a strong and fast front line. And they are all capable of scoring goals, meaning it doesn't depend on one player. Vini, Rodry, Brahim are young players who are reliable and fast. Can Dortmund's defense stop them? Bellingham, Valverde are also players who are ready on all fronts. Aurelien and Camavinga are midfield players, but are ready to play in defensive positions. I think this is something that Real Madrid has an advantage that other clubs in general don't have.
In a final match like the Champions League, a team should prepare all lines to be stronger and this can certainly be done by Real Madrid and Dortmund too. And if you say there are several Real Madrid players who are ready to play in all lines and positions, the Dortmund players themselves could also be ready for the same thing. Because Dortmund's front line also has several players who are very fast if they can receive passes that are mature enough from the midfield, so Real Madrid also needs to pay close attention to this so that their goal is not easily conceded.

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You don't expect a manager that's led a different teams to the UEFA Champions League Final on six different occasions to underestimate the strength of his opponents in the final of the competition. Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti already knows what Borussia Dortmund can do if they get any chance and would definitely not give them that chance. Borussia Dortmund didn't win any trophy this season so they're coming to that final with the hope of winning the trophy and Real Madrid players and manager fully understands that part. Real Madrid is simply the better team between the two teams and I expect them to beat their opponents in the final
Every manager has different tactics in playing their role on the field, especially in this final match. Every manager will definitely prepare a really mature strategy to beat his opponent. Edin Terzic will definitely be carefull can he might have read Carlo Anceloti's tactics just like Gasperini who can read Xabi Alonso's tactics so that he can beat an undefeated club, it could be Edin Terzic too, we can't underestimate underdog clubs because anything can happen, this is a big match and these clubs definitely want to do their best to create a satisfying ending.

We don't know yet whether Dortmund will bring home the trophy or not because Dortmund still has a chance to win the Champions League trophy. Real Madrid is indeed the best club in Europe, but that doesn't mean it can't lose. In fact, Real Madrid could be beaten by Manchester City because of Pep Guardiola's smart tactics last season, who knows, this season, because of Dortmund coach smart tactics, Real Madrid suffered a defeat. But what is certain is that many people will Real Madrid's favorites and their fans around the world have quite a lot of support, which can make Real Madrid even more confident in the final.
In soccer, anything can happen. Anything. Especially in a Champions League final. You never know, Terzic and Dortmund could surprise Real Madrid. Man City outsmarted them last year under Pep. I tell you, underdog teams surprise everyone. Dont dismiss Dortmund. With a youthful, motivated team, they're not afraid to assault. If Dortmund has studied Real Madrid, they'll know their defense is poor. The game could be fascinating if they can exploit those. All emphasis is on Real Madrid to win. Dortmund could gain an advantage by playing wisely.

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May 26, 2024, 04:59:40 PM
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Madrid's defense line is indeed weak compared to Dortmund if calculated by the number of goals conceded. But Madrid has a strong and fast front line. And they are all capable of scoring goals, meaning it doesn't depend on one player. Vini, Rodry, Brahim are young players who are reliable and fast. Can Dortmund's defense stop them? Bellingham, Valverde are also players who are ready on all fronts. Aurelien and Camavinga are midfield players, but are ready to play in defensive positions. I think this is something that Real Madrid has an advantage that other clubs in general don't have.
In a final match like the Champions League, a team should prepare all lines to be stronger and this can certainly be done by Real Madrid and Dortmund too. And if you say there are several Real Madrid players who are ready to play in all lines and positions, the Dortmund players themselves could also be ready for the same thing. Because Dortmund's front line also has several players who are very fast if they can receive passes that are mature enough from the midfield, so Real Madrid also needs to pay close attention to this so that their goal is not easily conceded.

Obviously, any team playing in the final will certainly make its best efforts although indeed, at least Dortmund and Real Madrid certainly have some differences. But still, they will make the same good effort in the final match but indeed, because considering that Real Madrid has more experience. So of course, with the great experience that Real Madrid has, then Real Madrid basically also has a better winning mentality compared to Dortmund. But indeed, considering the Europa League final, as well as the FA Cup final in the Premier League, at least the favorite teams in that match managed to be defeated by non-seeded teams. Therefore, although the Champions League final certainly has a very different tension but who knows, maybe surprising results can also occur.

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When Real Madrid is in the final match, believe me they are a team that will be 2x more difficult to beat if we compare it to matches other than the final match, and that is based on existing data where their winning percentage in the final match is very high, and that proves that they are a team that has a very strong mentality.

It is not easy to compete in the final, because all the pressure will be heavier and if a team is not ready or does not have a good mentality, then it could be said that they will lose before competing.   But on the other hand, I also don't underestimate the mentality that Borussia Dortmund has, because after all they are one of the big teams and they are the best team that can qualify for the Champions League final. So they will also show their good game. I can't wait to watch this match and I hope what I want to see happens in this match.

Terzic has long shown his ambition, the guy is only 41 years old and he is already playing in the Champions League final, this is in any case a huge achievement and a plus for his experience. Another question is that Ancelotti has much more experience and will have a frankly stronger team, so it will be very difficult for Terzic to beat such an experienced coach. The first thing Terzic needs to think about is a solid defense, because Real will attack a lot, and Dortmund will have to rely on counterattacks, at least that’s how I see this final.
I think this will be the case. This was also the case in the PSG match played in Paris, and Dortmund passed the elimination thanks to the posts. PSG had too many balls returning from the post. If something similar happens for Real Madrid, why shouldn't Dortmund beat them? Borussia Dortmund is strong enough to play at the top level. I'm sure Terzic will manage to adapt his students in the best possible way. Also, as a coach, I am sure that he will take charge of bigger teams in the coming years.

 
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In soccer, anything can happen. Anything. Especially in a Champions League final. You never know, Terzic and Dortmund could surprise Real Madrid. Man City outsmarted them last year under Pep. I tell you, underdog teams surprise everyone. Dont dismiss Dortmund. With a youthful, motivated team, they're not afraid to assault. If Dortmund has studied Real Madrid, they'll know their defense is poor. The game could be fascinating if they can exploit those. All emphasis is on Real Madrid to win. Dortmund could gain an advantage by playing wisely.
Indeed in this case we must consider all the possibilities that occur but indeed when talking about probabilities then everything will be the same where surely many people will agree that Madrid will win in the match even though it is possible for Dortmund to provide resistance and it is also possible to surprise to win but the chances are only small when compared to Madrid at this time.

The Champions League is different from the Europa League where sometimes the results in matches sometimes cannot be predicted well especially for the final because after all, the Champions League seems to be more predictable and in the last few finals it is also actually seen when who is the favorite then he is likely to win .
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In soccer, anything can happen. Anything. Especially in a Champions League final. You never know, Terzic and Dortmund could surprise Real Madrid. Man City outsmarted them last year under Pep. I tell you, underdog teams surprise everyone. Dont dismiss Dortmund. With a youthful, motivated team, they're not afraid to assault. If Dortmund has studied Real Madrid, they'll know their defense is poor. The game could be fascinating if they can exploit those. All emphasis is on Real Madrid to win. Dortmund could gain an advantage by playing wisely.
Indeed in this case we must consider all the possibilities that occur but indeed when talking about probabilities then everything will be the same where surely many people will agree that Madrid will win in the match even though it is possible for Dortmund to provide resistance and it is also possible to surprise to win but the chances are only small when compared to Madrid at this time.

The Champions League is different from the Europa League where sometimes the results in matches sometimes cannot be predicted well especially for the final because after all, the Champions League seems to be more predictable and in the last few finals it is also actually seen when who is the favorite then he is likely to win .
Even for now although we cannot underestimate Dortmund in the match, especially since this is a final, but still the one who has the probability and most likely champion is Madrid now .

I agree with you, I don't think we see any something different from what is suppose to be the result of the match. Real Madrid should be able to win Dortmund, and we have seen that in their preparation towards the finals. If you observed in their last two domestic games, it was a draw because the players are not taking those matches serious anymore.

So instead of them playing with seriousness, they are playing with ease, and their second choice players are the ones Ancelotti is using to start the match, and brings in his first choice close to the last quarter of the match to keep them fit and free from fatigue. So I know what Ancelotti can do and I am not sure he will lose this trophy to Dortmund.

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May 26, 2024, 07:42:58 PM
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I think this will be the case. This was also the case in the PSG match played in Paris, and Dortmund passed the elimination thanks to the posts. PSG had too many balls returning from the post. If something similar happens for Real Madrid, why shouldn't Dortmund beat them? Borussia Dortmund is strong enough to play at the top level. I'm sure Terzic will manage to adapt his students in the best possible way. Also, as a coach, I am sure that he will take charge of bigger teams in the coming years.
Sometimes bad luck is one of the factors that causes a team to fail to win, and that happened to Paris Saint Germain in the semifinals when they felt that every time they got a chance, their chance ended up hitting the goal post. In the end, Borussia Dortmund managed to win and advance to the Champions League final.
Things like this are things we can never predict and the same thing could happen to Real Madrid, where their chances have to be countered by the goal post for example.
When that happens, it will really affect the players' mentality, because when they continuously experience failure when attacking, it will make them frustrated. One way to prevent them from getting frustrated is to have a strong mentality. In fact, Real Madrid already has that mentality and maybe that will be their weapon in this match. We don't need to doubt the mentality that Real Madrid has, because they are the team that has it.

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Nobody saw Atalanta defeat Leverkusen or United defeat City. Makes you rethink all you know about football. You betting on Dortmund to win everything? Yes, I understand. It's a long shot, but Real Madrid's defense isn't unbeatable without Tchouameni in midfield. Dortmund has youthful vigor and hunger. This underdog surge could carry them to the trophy. Sports have had stranger events, right? Defiance has been the theme this year. Not unreasonable to imagine Dortmund could do it. It may be the biggest Champions League upset. You must believe

Real's advantage is not so great that any result in this game will be anything special. And by the way, if you compare it with comebacks in the playoffs when after the first game the underdog team reverses the result, then the comparison will definitely be in favor of two-game confrontations.
And about the unexpected: Atalanta's victory, United's victory... perhaps that's enough  Grin

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Indeed in this case we must consider all the possibilities that occur but indeed when talking about probabilities then everything will be the same where surely many people will agree that Madrid will win in the match even though it is possible for Dortmund to provide resistance and it is also possible to surprise to win but the chances are only small when compared to Madrid at this time.

The Champions League is different from the Europa League where sometimes the results in matches sometimes cannot be predicted well especially for the final because after all, the Champions League seems to be more predictable and in the last few finals it is also actually seen when who is the favorite then he is likely to win .
Even for now although we cannot underestimate Dortmund in the match, especially since this is a final, but still the one who has the probability and most likely champion is Madrid now .

I agree with you, I don't think we see any something different from what is suppose to be the result of the match. Real Madrid should be able to win Dortmund, and we have seen that in their preparation towards the finals. If you observed in their last two domestic games, it was a draw because the players are not taking those matches serious anymore.

So instead of them playing with seriousness, they are playing with ease, and their second choice players are the ones Ancelotti is using to start the match, and brings in his first choice close to the last quarter of the match to keep them fit and free from fatigue. So I know what Ancelotti can do and I am not sure he will lose this trophy to Dortmund.
The Champions League final between Madrid versus Dortmund is the most eagerly awaited match at the moment, because almost all European domestic competitions have ended, and all eyes are now focused on the Champions League final. Apart from that, the preparations of the two clubs are interesting to watch, especially if you want to bet on one of them winning. Madrid clearly has the status of a team that is more favored to win the Champions League trophy this season than Dortmund, but this does not mean that Dortmund does not have the opportunity to create a surprise. Both teams certainly have the same chance of beating each other, but there are many reasons why Madrid seems more dominant and has the potential to emerge as the winner.

In terms of squad depth, player mentality and reputation of both teams, Madrid looks superior, and Dortmund needs a miracle to beat Madrid. Apart from that, Madrid will now fully focus on the Champions League because they have finished all their matches in La Liga, this will give Madrid the opportunity to make preparations. Personally, I think Madrid will win easily, although we know that the final match will still be difficult for Madrid too. On the other hand, the Final match will be Kroos last match, because the player has said he will retire.

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May 26, 2024, 08:28:15 PM
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Terzic has long shown his ambition, the guy is only 41 years old and he is already playing in the Champions League final, this is in any case a huge achievement and a plus for his experience. Another question is that Ancelotti has much more experience and will have a frankly stronger team, so it will be very difficult for Terzic to beat such an experienced coach. The first thing Terzic needs to think about is a solid defense, because Real will attack a lot, and Dortmund will have to rely on counterattacks, at least that’s how I see this final.

Real Madrid is known for attacking very well especially when they need to score to advance to a new round or to win a trophy. Will Dortmund be able to absorb all the pressures that will be coming from Real Madrid at all? It’s going to be very hard for them but since they’re known to have a strong defence too, maybe they can be able to contain it to some level of degree till the match ends and then rely more on counterattacks to have an edge over Real Madrid. And if they are able to utilize one of those chances, they should be ready for more pressure from Real Madrid. I am sure they most have known how Real Madrid plays and they should have a tactics that will suit them better in that match with the coach they have now. The match still remains in favour of Real Madrid until proven otherwise in the course of the match.

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