UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[tusandii]

After lose with big scores from PSG last week it's Milan turn to playing as a host for 4th match and looking at to Milan recent records i can see Milan performance was decline because 1 win from 5 latest matches in all competitions didn't showing they are big team in Serie A or champion league and their chances in this competition to qualified is very slim unless Milan can able to win from all of 3 matches remaining on group stages
PSG obviously aiming win result this because they want to secured their position on group standings eapecially PSG want to advances to round of 16 early and they had good chances to repeat their previous result from Milan and i haven't checked the odds yet but i assume PSG will still the favourite in this match

My prediction is that this match will be a draw or PSG will win, choosing to bet on double chances, might be very good, but odds are very small and I choose to make the decision to wait for latest news because there still one week left which can turn into something bad when competing domestically and suffer an injury.
Indeed, terms performance, milan lost a little further, while playing away that time they were not able to score and this time Milan was able to score but maybe only small amount.

[Furious 7]

After lose with big scores from PSG last week it's Milan turn to playing as a host for 4th match and looking at to Milan recent records i can see Milan performance was decline because 1 win from 5 latest matches in all competitions didn't showing they are big team in Serie A or champion league and their chances in this competition to qualified is very slim unless Milan can able to win from all of 3 matches remaining on group stages
PSG obviously aiming win result this because they want to secured their position on group standings eapecially PSG want to advances to round of 16 early and they had good chances to repeat their previous result from Milan and i haven't checked the odds yet but i assume PSG will still the favourite in this match

My prediction is that this match will be a draw or PSG will win, choosing to bet on double chances, it might be very good, but the odds are very small and I choose to make the decision to wait for the latest news because there is still one week left which can turn into something bad when competing domestically and suffer an injury.
Indeed, in terms of performance, Milan lost a little further, while playing away at that time they were not able to score and this time Milan was able to score but maybe only a small amount.

It can still be done but I still feel that the victory in this match will still be at PSG even if they go away.
Milan played very well including in yesterday's match where the Big Match took place in Serie A but indeed PSG with its speed is difficult to block.
Indeed, for the second leg now Milan will definitely get tremendous support from its militants considering this match is carried out at their home, it's just that PSG is sometimes not too affected by this.
Coupled with PSG's current condition which is starting to be solid, especially for this attack line, it could be a stumbling block again for Milan and further immerse them at the bottom of the standings.

But if in the end Milan manages to win, the struggle for position to qualify in this group will become more interesting.

[wmaurik]

Of course, they are going to need to work hard to actually stay at the top of the competition. No club is actually going to be able to perform badly and stay at the top. Not even the great Real Madrid. But so far I don't think we actually have got any reason to doubt Real Madrid. They have shown good performance and they also have been able to win against the biggest competitor which is Barcelona. They just need to make sure that the players stay healthy and do not get injured. Especially Jude Bellingham, who has been doing the bulk of the scoring for Real Madrid in this season. he has been the biggest success so far for Real Madrid recently.

In the Champions League, Real Madrid is still confident enough to qualify for the next round as long as its players do not experience bad luck such as injuries, as well as in La Liga, where it is increasingly visible that Real Madrid is on the list of teams that will compete for the championship this season. I also think that Real Madrid will go further in the Champions League this season if they can continue to improve their own performance with the players they currently have and I am also quite confident that Ancelotti's guidance at Real Madrid will continue to get better.

[hahay]

With what we see in the standings now, the opportunity for Manchester United to qualify is still open. But the problem is when we look at their appearance which will not be certain whether they will play well or vice versa. They have just lost the derby match at home to Manchester City and surely it is something that hurts because they have to lose in front of their own supporters.
In the Champions League, in the first 2 matches they had to lose and fortunately they could still win in the 3rd match so that their chances were still open. But their journey is still tough in the next match. Honestly, it's hard to predict them.

United are not really inform at the moment,nothing seems to be working for Ten Hag,he has tried almost all he could,using different formations and lineups just to ensure that he gets victory,but it's as if the whole situation is getting worse.I feel for their fans because if care is not taken,they might end up not qualifying for Europa league next season.They managed to win the least team in their group the last time they played,and with the way they are playing so far,there is no guarantee that they can win any other team in the group again,because they are going worse everyday.I feel for their fans.

The situation with United is very scary, and Im very angry about it right now. Its like seeing a ship slowly sink. Players on defense like Lindeloff and Maguire are a big part of the problem. Their lack of continuity is puzzling, and Im really worried. I believe Ten Hag really wants to make things better, but I agree that just getting new players isnt the answer. What about the way a person thinks? Their drive to win? Im also let down that the striking players arent living up to my hopes. I think this problem needs more than just a fix on the transfer market. Yes, how the team does against Copenhagen will be a litmus test, and Im scared about whats to come.

Anyway, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 and maybe for worst result is, Manchester United will only continue tothe Europa League if Manchester United only finish in third place . Obviously, Manchester United only need toget two more wins, when Manchester United play against Copenhagen and also for the match Manchester United against Galatasaray . If Manchester United manage to win in these two matches, then it is certain that Manchester United will become runner up. But, if Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen, then it looks like Manchester United will only finish in third place. So ya, although Manchester United are not looking good at this moment, but I personally can still consider that Manchester United still have a chance to qualify.

[Belarge]

Anyway, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 and maybe for worst result is, Manchester United will only continue tothe Europa League if Manchester United only finish in third place . Obviously, Manchester United only need toget two more wins, when Manchester United play against Copenhagen and also for the match Manchester United against Galatasaray . If Manchester United manage to win in these two matches, then it is certain that Manchester United will become runner up. But, if Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen, then it looks like Manchester United will only finish in third place. So ya, although Manchester United are not looking good at this moment, but I personally can still consider that Manchester United still have a chance to qualify.

Manchester united are not safe, they have primary objectives to win remaining games, Erik Ten Hag and his starting XI are under pressure due to the declined in performance they had against the Bavarians and Galatasaray. Group A is not as difficult as it seems, there are only competitive team like Bayern Munich and Galatasaray, United main job is to pull incredible performance for the purpose to accumulate good points in these encounters. Manchester united have tough task to accomplish in the UEFA second leg. They're ranked 3rd in group A and it's Erik Ten Hag ultimate priority to make it out from the group and proceed to the next phase.

[yudi09]

In the Champions League, Real Madrid is still confident enough to qualify for the next round as long as its players do not experience bad luck such as injuries, as well as in La Liga, where it is increasingly visible that Real Madrid is on the list of teams that will compete for the championship this season.

Competition in the group stage Real Madrid may have high confidence to qualify because the teams in the same group as Real Madrid, in my opinion, are below Real Madrid's quality. 9 points in 3 matches can make them a little relieved. The most likely opponent that can provide resistance to Real Madrid is probably Napoli.
In La Liga, Real Madrid cannot afford to have as much self-confidence as you would say during a storm of injuries away from the squad.

I also think that Real Madrid will go further in the Champions League this season if they can continue to improve their own performance with the players they currently have and I am also quite confident that Ancelotti's guidance at Real Madrid will continue to get better.

It is appropriate to make an assessment after the group stage is completed. For now, save for an analysis of how far Real Madrid can go in the Champions League.

[Zanab247]

After lose with big scores from PSG last week it's Milan turn to playing as a host for 4th match and looking at to Milan recent records i can see Milan performance was decline because 1 win from 5 latest matches in all competitions didn't showing they are big team in Serie A or champion league and their chances in this competition to qualified is very slim unless Milan can able to win from all of 3 matches remaining on group stages
PSG obviously aiming win result this because they want to secured their position on group standings eapecially PSG want to advances to round of 16 early and they had good chances to repeat their previous result from Milan and i haven't checked the odds yet but i assume PSG will still the favourite in this match

PSG still remain among the strongest teams in the Serie A which they have proven their strongest in their first game that made them to beat their opponent with many goals to secured victory that made them to top in their group. There will be pretty goals in this game, If PSG coach will release their talented players to play this game because they are good in showcasing their skills in serie A that will give them the opportunity to score some goals that will make them to beat Milan 1:4 for the favour of PSG.

The reason why PSG will still be my favorite team in this game, just because their strikers are well organized to create opportunity for themselves to have way to their opponent goalpost to ensure they achieve what they want in the game, which they will surely display such performance in this game.

[Sim_card]

I think Manchester United's main weakness is their attack. If we look at the Premier League points table, United's attacking weakness is easily understood. The team scored only 11 goals in 10 matches. The 7 teams above Manchester United in the points table have managed to score more than 22 goals in 10 matches each. On the other hand, Manchester United's attacking players are consistently performing poorly. I would blame United's attacking weakness on bad decisions by United coach Ten Hag. Because, he spent a lot of money and added the inexperienced Hojlund to the squad. United needed an experienced striker. Having such an inexperienced player in United's front line is why Manchester United is in such a bad state. Manchester United has a lot of money. Ten hag could have bought an experienced striker.

Their defense is also weak so it can be said that all of Manchester United's lines this season are not working well, and not only because Hojlund still lacks experience but also how this season Rashford before Hojlund's arrival also did not show good things and it could be said that he was a bad striker this season, however, Ten Hag still has full trust in him and there is no other alternative but to continue entrusting Rashford to play unless in the middle of the season they plan to buy new players, especially strikers.
Their weakness this season has made Manchester United perform poorly not only in the domestic league but also in the Champions League. There is a chance that they will not qualify for the group phase if in the next three matches, nothing good can be achieved.

The whole team is weak and that is why they are not performing their duties properly on the pitch. The attack is lacking the scoring force, the defense is lacking the stopping force and the midfield is also lacking. If you look at their performance this season, you will see that they have not put in any impressive performance since the beginning of this season. They only manage to win matches and I have seen them able to win a big team. Instead small teams are winning them. I don't see them going far in UCL with their present squad, only if during the transfer window a new player might come that will change the whole scenario. I don't know why Rashford is not in a good from to deliver Man united from their delima.

[RaltcoinsB]

With what we see in the standings now, the opportunity for Manchester United to qualify is still open. But the problem is when we look at their appearance which will not be certain whether they will play well or vice versa. They have just lost the derby match at home to Manchester City and surely it is something that hurts because they have to lose in front of their own supporters.
In the Champions League, in the first 2 matches they had to lose and fortunately they could still win in the 3rd match so that their chances were still open. But their journey is still tough in the next match. Honestly, it's hard to predict them.

United are not really inform at the moment,nothing seems to be working for Ten Hag,he has tried almost all he could,using different formations and lineups just to ensure that he gets victory,but it's as if the whole situation is getting worse.I feel for their fans because if care is not taken,they might end up not qualifying for Europa league next season.They managed to win the least team in their group the last time they played,and with the way they are playing so far,there is no guarantee that they can win any other team in the group again,because they are going worse everyday.I feel for their fans.

The situation with United is very scary, and Im very angry about it right now. Its like seeing a ship slowly sink. Players on defense like Lindeloff and Maguire are a big part of the problem. Their lack of continuity is puzzling, and Im really worried. I believe Ten Hag really wants to make things better, but I agree that just getting new players isnt the answer. What about the way a person thinks? Their drive to win? Im also let down that the striking players arent living up to my hopes. I think this problem needs more than just a fix on the transfer market. Yes, how the team does against Copenhagen will be a litmus test, and Im scared about whats to come.

Manchester United started the year with high hopes, but they played so badly that expectations constantly dropped. They lost to Galatasaray in Old Trafford and Bayern in Munich. They had a hard time in the Copenhagen match, but they managed to win. Depending on the result of the next match in the Champions League, the future of Erik Ten Hag will be discussed.

[indah rezqi]

Of course, they are going to need to work hard to actually stay at the top of the competition. No club is actually going to be able to perform badly and stay at the top. Not even the great Real Madrid. But so far I don't think we actually have got any reason to doubt Real Madrid. They have shown good performance and they also have been able to win against the biggest competitor which is Barcelona. They just need to make sure that the players stay healthy and do not get injured. Especially Jude Bellingham, who has been doing the bulk of the scoring for Real Madrid in this season. he has been the biggest success so far for Real Madrid recently.

In the Champions League, Real Madrid is still confident enough to qualify for the next round as long as its players do not experience bad luck such as injuries, as well as in La Liga, where it is increasingly visible that Real Madrid is on the list of teams that will compete for the championship this season. I also think that Real Madrid will go further in the Champions League this season if they can continue to improve their own performance with the players they currently have and I am also quite confident that Ancelotti's guidance at Real Madrid will continue to get better.

Among several favorite clubs, I think Real Madrid is at the top of the list, and I think this is not the first time. Their journey so far in Group C has been smooth, Napoli, Braga and Union Berlin failed to provide significant resistance, causing Madrid to stumble in getting full points. In the remaining three matches, I think Ancelotti's squad will definitely be able to secure full points again, and will not face any significant obstacles, because I doubt the other three clubs in group Ccan overthrow the La Liga giants.

Regarding injured players, no one knows and no one can predict when it will happen, what you can do is avoid it. Their success in getting 3 points after beating Barcelona in the eleventh week, makes us know that their potential opponents in the UCL need to be aware of their strength this season. However, that doesn't mean there won't be any more defeats, we have seen many surprises occur in Europe's highest competition.

[ancafe]

I don't think with Manchester United only but also have Newcastle United are Premier League teams in Champion League with terrible position right now. Manchester United have 3 points of 3 matches and Newcastle United have 4 points but its not enough for qualifying to 16th round. Manchester City are promising Premier League team will qualify to next round after winning three matches and Arsenal have good opportunity with managed top standings in Group B after collecting 6 points.

Usually all Premier League teams participants in Champion League never failed in group stage, but I don't optimistic with Manchester United or Newcastle have great opportunity will lead to knock out round with three matches left. Next match, Copenhagen is Manchester United opponent teams and Newcastle United will face Dortmund, its good chance take three points and got one place to 16th round.

Compared to Manchester United, Newcastle United's performance is much better at the moment, but because they are in a group that has a more balanced and experienced team, it is difficult for Newcastle United to qualify for the next round. Manchester City and Arsenal have a greater chance of qualifying for the round of 16 compared to the other two English representatives. Manchester United and Newcastle must win the remaining matches if they want to qualify for the last 16 and I doubt these two teams will be able to get past the group stage.

Manchester United has the opportunity to get points when facing Copenhagen, but for Newcastle United it is quite difficult. However, we cannot underestimate Newcastle United because in the previous match they managed to beat PSG with a quite promising score. So even though in the first leg Newcastle United lost 0-1 against Dortmund, that doesn't mean that in the second leg Dortmund can beat Newcastle at home easily.

[hahay]

Anyway, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 and maybe for worst result is, Manchester United will only continue tothe Europa League if Manchester United only finish in third place . Obviously, Manchester United only need toget two more wins, when Manchester United play against Copenhagen and also for the match Manchester United against Galatasaray . If Manchester United manage to win in these two matches, then it is certain that Manchester United will become runner up. But, if Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen, then it looks like Manchester United will only finish in third place. So ya, although Manchester United are not looking good at this moment, but I personally can still consider that Manchester United still have a chance to qualify.

Manchester united are not safe, they have primary objectives to win remaining games, Erik Ten Hag and his starting XI are under pressure due to the declined in performance they had against the Bavarians and Galatasaray. Group A is not as difficult as it seems, there are only competitive team like Bayern Munich and Galatasaray, United main job is to pull incredible performance for the purpose to accumulate good points in these encounters. Manchester united have tough task to accomplish in the UEFA second leg. They're ranked 3rd in group A and it's Erik Ten Hag ultimate priority to make it out from the group and proceed to the next phase.

You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich . Therefore, I said about Manchester United should be to win only two matches, against Galatasaray and also against Copenhagen. Because ya, that's the only chance for Manchester United if they want to be runners up in this group and in fact, I said if for example Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen then Manchester United will only finish in third position. With that too, it is clear that Manchester United position is still safe I guess, because currently Manchester United only has a gap of 1 point with Galatasaray.

[Abu-Naim]

You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich . Therefore, I said about Manchester United should be to win only two matches, against Galatasaray and also against Copenhagen. Because ya, that's the only chance for Manchester United if they want to be runners up in this group and in fact, I said if for example Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen then Manchester United will only finish in third position. With that too, it is clear that Manchester United position is still safe I guess, because currently Manchester United only has a gap of 1 point with Galatasaray.

Based on their respective performances in their domestic leagues, Bayern Munich is a better team than Manchester United. And even if we compare the quality of their squad and players, Bayern Munich is still a better team than Manchester United. But when it comes to football and results, luck can be on any team, and because of that, Manchester United can get some points against Bayern; otherwise,  if we can rate based on their form this season, I don't think Manchester United can beat Bayern.

[Distraction]

After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.

[W Jr.]

Anyway, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 and maybe for worst result is, Manchester United will only continue tothe Europa League if Manchester United only finish in third place . Obviously, Manchester United only need toget two more wins, when Manchester United play against Copenhagen and also for the match Manchester United against Galatasaray . If Manchester United manage to win in these two matches, then it is certain that Manchester United will become runner up. But, if Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen, then it looks like Manchester United will only finish in third place. So ya, although Manchester United are not looking good at this moment, but I personally can still consider that Manchester United still have a chance to qualify.

Manchester united are not safe, they have primary objectives to win remaining games, Erik Ten Hag and his starting XI are under pressure due to the declined in performance they had against the Bavarians and Galatasaray. Group A is not as difficult as it seems, there are only competitive team like Bayern Munich and Galatasaray, United main job is to pull incredible performance for the purpose to accumulate good points in these encounters. Manchester united have tough task to accomplish in the UEFA second leg. They're ranked 3rd in group A and it's Erik Ten Hag ultimate priority to make it out from the group and proceed to the next phase.

You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich . Therefore, I said about Manchester United should be to win only two matches, against Galatasaray and also against Copenhagen. Because ya, that's the only chance for Manchester United if they want to be runners up in this group and in fact, I said if for example Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen then Manchester United will only finish in third position. With that too, it is clear that Manchester United position is still safe I guess, because currently Manchester United only has a gap of 1 point with Galatasaray.

If you watched the match between Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, they played magnificently in the first half. Bayern is one of the favorite teams of this cup and Galatasaray found 3 clear positions in the first half. If they could evaluate those positions, they could even beat Bayern Munich. If we think about it this way, I see Manchester United's chance of winning the match to be played in Istanbul as low. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they even lose points in the Copenhagen match. Galatasaray will probably lose in Germany and the match between them and Manchester United will determine the course of the group.

[KTChampions]

After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.

In terms of scoring chances, the game with Dortmund was not as bad as the result. This time the random was on the side of Dortmund, but it is not a fact that it will be on the side of Dortmund in Dortmund. I think in the next round PSG will defeat Milan and, one might say, guarantees (at least dramatically increases the chances) a place in the 1/8. Thus, in the last game of the group stage for Newcastle, they will have to beat demotivated Milan at home. And take at least 3 points in one of the away games - against Dortmund or PSG. This is quite real.

[Belarge]

After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.

My favorite teams in Group F, PSG and Newcastle should qualify. I won't be surprised if Newcastle doesn't make it out from group F because it's fully competitive among elite clubs. We know how long it took them before they were able to qualify for UEFA Champions League spot this season, though they're making quite an impression but they still lack some basic necessities that ought to be in place for them for the purpose of the team to do better in performance. Subsequently, the Magpies have tried their best this season, they thrashed PSG on English soil and they're ready to face these teams in the second legs which is going to be challenging for them.

[fzkto]

Anyway, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 and maybe for worst result is, Manchester United will only continue tothe Europa League if Manchester United only finish in third place . Obviously, Manchester United only need toget two more wins, when Manchester United play against Copenhagen and also for the match Manchester United against Galatasaray . If Manchester United manage to win in these two matches, then it is certain that Manchester United will become runner up. But, if Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen, then it looks like Manchester United will only finish in third place. So ya, although Manchester United are not looking good at this moment, but I personally can still consider that Manchester United still have a chance to qualify.

Manchester united are not safe, they have primary objectives to win remaining games, Erik Ten Hag and his starting XI are under pressure due to the declined in performance they had against the Bavarians and Galatasaray. Group A is not as difficult as it seems, there are only competitive team like Bayern Munich and Galatasaray, United main job is to pull incredible performance for the purpose to accumulate good points in these encounters. Manchester united have tough task to accomplish in the UEFA second leg. They're ranked 3rd in group A and it's Erik Ten Hag ultimate priority to make it out from the group and proceed to the next phase.

You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich . Therefore, I said about Manchester United should be to win only two matches, against Galatasaray and also against Copenhagen. Because ya, that's the only chance for Manchester United if they want to be runners up in this group and in fact, I said if for example Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen then Manchester United will only finish in third position. With that too, it is clear that Manchester United position is still safe I guess, because currently Manchester United only has a gap of 1 point with Galatasaray.

Manchester United against Bayern will definitely lose. It doesn't matter that it will be a home game, Bayern are one of the best teams in the Champions League right now. Although if they give Manchester United a chance because they are in the playoffs anyway. But here are two away matches for Manchester United do not guarantee wins. Manchester is now in the danger zone.

[BITCOIN4X]

Manchester United against Bayern will definitely lose. It doesn't matter that it will be a home game, Bayern are one of the best teams in the Champions League right now. Although if they give Manchester United a chance because they are in the playoffs anyway. But here are two away matches for Manchester United do not guarantee wins. Manchester is now in the danger zone.

I can't say for sure at all, but you're probably right because you got them both in different shapes. Ten Hag finds it very difficult to build the quality and good mentality of his team to win a tough match, let alone in the Champions League, he also finds it difficult in the Premier League. Bayern Munich is certainly much better and has a high chance of beating Manchester United in the two group stage meetings, while I can still try to believe that Manchester United can win some points in other matches.

Bayern Munich are favorites in the Champions League this season, while Manchester United appear not to be. But whatever it is, we can still expect differences because there are 3 more matches they will play in the group stage. I put Manchester United in doubt, but they are still worth fighting for.

[Roseline492]

You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich .

That's true, because Bayern Munich is a club I respect so much and irrespective of the good performance of Manchester city but I don't think they should be compared with Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich is far stronger and tactical team that has a good impressive performance.

Bayern Munich has played eleven matches from September till now and they have won nine matches and they draw only two matches and have not lose match within that month, that's how they no the team has the best performance, so however Bayern Munich is seriously on a good form this season so for now they are unbeaten.