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October 31, 2023, 08:42:03 PM
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That's true, because Bayern Munich is a club I respect so much and irrespective of the good performance of Manchester city but I don't think they should be compared with Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich is far stronger and tactical team that has a good impressive performance.

Bayern Munich has played eleven matches from September till now and they have won nine matches and they draw only two matches and have not lose match within that month, that's how they no the team has the best performance, so however Bayern Munich is seriously on a good form this season so for now they are unbeaten.
Well if Manchester united had beaten City in their previous matches i would said that there's a big possibility of them beating Bayern Munich,  but the reverse is the case cause their performance was nothing to talk about they played awful and made alot of errors, if they're still playing such boring football up till this moment when they should've figured out a pattern that's worked well for in several games and try to improve it, that means nothings been working and they've been winning by luck, since Erik Ten Hag is still figuring out the right strategy that would make them start performing great again.

 Well to cut long story short, Bayern are performing better than Manchester united and has better chances of winning when they meet again, Manchester united don't have the right players they could face them with if they're to play currently cause their defense line is very porous and Ten Hag keeps making wrong decisions when it comes to player selections.
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October 31, 2023, 08:42:13 PM
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After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.


Actually, I don't want to predict how Newcastle will compete in this competition. however, referring to the matches they played, the game they played has not changed, according to my version. had calmed down the match against PSG, in my opinion, Eddie Howe's squad at that time was in good condition and lucky. because for me, Enrique made a mistake with the implementation of his system and player rotation. In the match against Dortmund, Newcastle had difficulty winning the match. although in fact, they had several good opportunities to score goals. but in fact, Dortmund was able to overthrow Newcastle at St James' Park, Newcastle's headquarters.

Apart from that, before the fourth matchday match at Dortmund headquarters. Newcastle will have two tough matches, namely against United and finally against Arsenal. What is certain is, if you want to get full points in domestic competition, Eddie Howe's squad will have to go all out to achieve victory. Well, after that Newcastle will fly to Germany to its headquarters Dormund. It's really a tiring match, I think.
Then, they will play an away match at PSG headquarters. Of course, it will be different from the first match. Well, Newcastle's chances of qualifying for the next phase are quite risky and doubtful, as is AC Mulan. although in reality, this opportunity is still wide open for Newcastle. What is certain is that there is no other way to find out, just by following the Champions League matches ahead.


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October 31, 2023, 08:48:56 PM
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Based on their respective performances in their domestic leagues, Bayern Munich is a better team than Manchester United. And even if we compare the quality of their squad and players, Bayern Munich is still a better team than Manchester United. But when it comes to football and results, luck can be on any team, and because of that, Manchester United can get some points against Bayern; otherwise,  if we can rate based on their form this season, I don't think Manchester United can beat Bayern.
I tend to agree that Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich. The players' confidence has been disrupted by a series of bad results, the team is under pressure, and so is the coach. Ten Hag needs to take responsibility for the team's current inconsistency in performance, but that alone is not enough as the fans want something big.

I admit that beating Bayern Munich in the Champions League is the toughest challenge, but it is not impossible. Favorite teams don't always win, and non-favorite teams don't always lose. Both teams should not be underestimated because we never know when a bad day will befall them. Meanwhile, the Manchester United vs Bayern Munich match is still a long way off, so there may be some expected changes in performance from both teams.

 
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October 31, 2023, 09:12:29 PM
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I tend to agree that Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich. The players' confidence has been disrupted by a series of bad results, the team is under pressure, and so is the coach. Ten Hag needs to take responsibility for the team's current inconsistency in performance, but that alone is not enough as the fans want something big.

I admit that beating Bayern Munich in the Champions League is the toughest challenge, but it is not impossible. Favorite teams don't always win, and non-favorite teams don't always lose. Both teams should not be underestimated because we never know when a bad day will befall them. Meanwhile, the Manchester United vs Bayern Munich match is still a long way off, so there may be some expected changes in performance from both teams.
UEFA Champions League competition are for Champions, and any team that made it up to the elite tournament deserved respects and accolades because it's never an easy task to ranked up the good among other standard teams. Manchester united boss, Erik Ten Hag visioned the poor areas and weaknesses of his team and he's keen on fixing the present issues of his team. Contemplating on the Red Devils winning Bayern Munich, I think it's an impossible action. Precise, United are not in good form this season, watching the Red in games, it's funny how they win today and lose tomorrow.

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October 31, 2023, 09:14:52 PM
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You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich .
That's true, because Bayern Munich is a club I respect so much and irrespective of the good performance of Manchester city but I don't think they should be compared with Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich is far stronger and tactical team that has a good impressive performance.

Bayern Munich has played eleven matches from September till now and they have won nine matches and they draw only two matches and have not lose match within that month, that's how they no the team has the best performance, so however Bayern Munich is seriously on a good form this season so for now they are unbeaten.

Well I dispute the fact that you prefer Bayern munich to Manchester City, though Bayern munich have more champions league records than Manchester city but considering Manchester city performance so far for about 3 seasons now you will know that Manchester city is a very difficult team to be defeated. Both teams have been consistent both in their league and in the champions league and I feel it is very hard for one to compare the best among the two teams.

Moreover, the English premier league is more competitive than the Bundesliga because the winner of the league is mostly determined when the season is about to end whereas the winner of the bundesliga are most times known from the beginning of their season. Now, for years now you will find out that Bayern munich really dominated the bundesliga but in the premier league, the trophy has always been rotational.











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October 31, 2023, 09:22:12 PM
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You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich . Therefore, I said about Manchester United should be to win only two matches, against Galatasaray and also against Copenhagen. Because ya, that's the only chance for Manchester United if they want to be runners up in this group and in fact, I said if for example Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen then Manchester United will only finish in third position. With that too, it is clear that Manchester United position is still safe I guess, because currently Manchester United only has a gap of 1 point with Galatasaray.

Manchester United will play Copenhagen next, then Galatasaray after that. Those are the two games that will determine their survival. Manchester United will play those two games away from home, making it very difficult fixtures. If they do not win both of those matches they'll have an even slimmer chance of survival.
I doubt they'll be able to Copenhagen in Denmark and Galatasaray in Turkey. Gala plays very well, and they were able to get all three points at Old Trafford, they'll be able to do it again at Rams Park.
Copenhagen too is good at home, they play well at home.

So no, Manchester United's position is not safe, they're going to need to do all they can to win these two games so even if they lose to Bayern in the final week of the Ucl group stage they'll still finish second in the ground.

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October 31, 2023, 11:20:08 PM
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You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich . Therefore, I said about Manchester United should be to win only two matches, against Galatasaray and also against Copenhagen. Because ya, that's the only chance for Manchester United if they want to be runners up in this group and in fact, I said if for example Manchester United are only able to beat Copenhagen then Manchester United will only finish in third position. With that too, it is clear that Manchester United position is still safe I guess, because currently Manchester United only has a gap of 1 point with Galatasaray.

Manchester United will play Copenhagen next, then Galatasaray after that. Those are the two games that will determine their survival. Manchester United will play those two games away from home, making it very difficult fixtures. If they do not win both of those matches they'll have an even slimmer chance of survival.
I doubt they'll be able to Copenhagen in Denmark and Galatasaray in Turkey. Gala plays very well, and they were able to get all three points at Old Trafford, they'll be able to do it again at Rams Park.
Copenhagen too is good at home, they play well at home.

So no, Manchester United's position is not safe, they're going to need to do all they can to win these two games so even if they lose to Bayern in the final week of the Ucl group stage they'll still finish second in the ground.
The key match on Group A is without a doubt the match that will take place between Manchester United and Galatasaray at November 29, as any team that gets that win will become the runner up of that group and make it to the next round, however the match Manchester United will hold against Copenhagen is very important too, as if they can win and Galatasaray losses or draws with Bayern Munich this will allow them to snatch away the second position from the group before their key match, an eventuality which could put additional pressure over Galatasaray and make them to perform poorly under so much pressure.
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October 31, 2023, 11:28:24 PM
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I tend to agree that Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich. The players' confidence has been disrupted by a series of bad results, the team is under pressure, and so is the coach. Ten Hag needs to take responsibility for the team's current inconsistency in performance, but that alone is not enough as the fans want something big.
Everyone must think the same, no chance that Man United to beat Bayern Munich. It is not only about the morale or mentality of the players, but Bayern Munich basically has a better squad. Although the match will be held in Old Trafford, I assume Bayern Munich won't get a difficulty to beat Man United. Well, if we are talking about the responsibility, it is not only for the coach. Man United management also must take the responsibility as well.

I admit that beating Bayern Munich in the Champions League is the toughest challenge, but it is not impossible. Favorite teams don't always win, and non-favorite teams don't always lose. Both teams should not be underestimated because we never know when a bad day will befall them.
Of course, there will be always a chance for a surprise. Moreover, it is UCL competition, weaker teams won't always to defeat by stronger teams. In some matches, weaker teams can win the match because they can play solidly and have no pressure. Meanwhile stronger teams can be defeated, they sometimes can't play as a solid team.


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November 01, 2023, 02:58:07 AM
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They still have a long way to go to make that happen, but even though they look more prepared now, it's not a guarantee that they will continue to show the same. The reason is that last season they were also good but they lost their balance when the season was about to end and in the end Barcelona could freely win the title last season.
This is just the beginning of their long journey and there are still many matches left. Especially in the Champions League, big teams from each league are waiting for them to stop them in the Champions League. Although their strength now looks strong, they still need to improve.

Barcelona were good in La Liga, but in the Champions League they couldn't even get out of the group, Inter became an impassable team for them. While I agree that Barcelona are gradually getting into optimal form, it is only right that the manager can plan in such a way that the team can finish the season at its peak. In the Champions League they are doing well now, they will definitely make it to the playoffs.

For me, it makes sense why Barcelona was unable to do well in the Champions League competition. Barcelona was unable to do well in the Champions League because Barcelona actually went all in with all the power of they have in the La Liga competition. And I think it is going to be wrong to say that Barcelona didn't go for the Champions League competition. Actually, they couldn't. Maybe that will change this time. This time they have a little more competition in La Liga. So probably they will also concentrate on the Champions League. But remember they are the defending champion of La Liga. So they will have to compete really hard to defend the title successfully.

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November 01, 2023, 03:36:56 AM
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I tend to agree that Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich. The players' confidence has been disrupted by a series of bad results, the team is under pressure, and so is the coach. Ten Hag needs to take responsibility for the team's current inconsistency in performance, but that alone is not enough as the fans want something big.
Everyone must think the same, no chance that Man United to beat Bayern Munich. It is not only about the morale or mentality of the players, but Bayern Munich basically has a better squad. Although the match will be held in Old Trafford, I assume Bayern Munich won't get a difficulty to beat Man United. Well, if we are talking about the responsibility, it is not only for the coach. Man United management also must take the responsibility as well.
The two teams will face each other in the final match in the UCL group phase and we can guess from now on who will win the match.
Bayern Munich will be the winner and top in group A, while Manchester United will be eliminated from the UCL because only two teams will qualify for group A, namely Bayern Munich and Galatasaray.
There is no hope for Manchester United so Ten Hag must be able to accept what they will experience this season.

I admit that beating Bayern Munich in the Champions League is the toughest challenge, but it is not impossible. Favorite teams don't always win, and non-favorite teams don't always lose. Both teams should not be underestimated because we never know when a bad day will befall them.
Of course, there will be always a chance for a surprise. Moreover, it is UCL competition, weaker teams won't always to defeat by stronger teams. In some matches, weaker teams can win the match because they can play solidly and have no pressure. Meanwhile stronger teams can be defeated, they sometimes can't play as a solid team.


There will always be surprises in football but for them to beat Bayern Munich they have to be supported by luck and I don't believe Manchester United will have that luck.
After all, the UCL is a very important League for Bayern Munich and Tuchel so they will try to stay at the top.

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November 01, 2023, 03:49:22 AM
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The key match on Group A is without a doubt the match that will take place between Manchester United and Galatasaray at November 29, as any team that gets that win will become the runner up of that group and make it to the next round, however the match Manchester United will hold against Copenhagen is very important too, as if they can win and Galatasaray losses or draws with Bayern Munich this will allow them to snatch away the second position from the group before their key match, an eventuality which could put additional pressure over Galatasaray and make them to perform poorly under so much pressure.
This will be a fierce competition in group A and in my opinion Galatasaray will have a slight advantage because the crucial match against Manchester United will be played at Galatasaray's home ground so they have a big chance of winning, although it will still be fierce and Manchester United cannot be underestimated.
Manchester United's performance is currently in a very bad state, so many people doubt that they can qualify from the group phase.
And against Capenhagen it will also be difficult for Man United, the match will be played at home to Copenhagen and when the first leg was played at Old Trafford, the Man United team won by a narrow score and the match was also very fierce.

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November 01, 2023, 04:00:01 AM
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After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.
Last week was Newcastle home match and i thought they will going to be the winner of that match but surprisingly Newcastle was lose with narrow score from Dortmund and currently Newcastle had equal points to Dortmund so they still have good chances to qualified as long as they didn't lose from Dortmund for upcoming match but indeed the team who qualified will be determined in the last match of group stages this because difference points between the teams in group F was not so far

Newcastle currently had facing unfavourable situations this because some of their players will be absense and Sandro Tonali certainly will not be in the squad after suspension besides that Elliot Anderson and Alexander Isak has uncertain conditions and i think losing these players will have any affect to Newcastle performance and if Newcastle lose then Dortmund most likely will advances to the next round along with PSG

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November 01, 2023, 04:11:12 AM
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I tend to agree that Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich. The players' confidence has been disrupted by a series of bad results, the team is under pressure, and so is the coach. Ten Hag needs to take responsibility for the team's current inconsistency in performance, but that alone is not enough as the fans want something big.
Man United currently has what I believe to be the worst strategy. In their recent matches, they've been displaying a rather dull style of play. I find myself enjoying the games of the underdog teams more, as Man United seems to focus on defensive tactics and relies heavily on long balls for their attacks. It's honestly quite boring, and no top team should be employing such a poor attacking strategy.

In the recent match against Man City, Andre Onana did perform well, despite the 3-0 loss to Man city. However, the big question is, is Onana a better solution to strengthen the squad compared to De Gea? I don't see this as the right decision, and I've been critical of this choice in my thoughts.

Man United has had its worst start to a season since I started following them in 2011. I've been a fan of Man United since 2011, and I've never witnessed such a poor performance at the beginning of a season, except for this one. Even in the UCL, Man United seems far from being capable of competing against underdog teams. When facing a team like Bayern Munich, which consistently maintains a strong performance, the chances of winning are very slim if Man United's performance continues in this manner.
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You don't need to compare the quality of Manchester United with Bayern Munich because obviously, Manchester United will still lose by Bayern Munich .
That's true, because Bayern Munich is a club I respect so much and irrespective of the good performance of Manchester city but I don't think they should be compared with Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich is far stronger and tactical team that has a good impressive performance.

Bayern Munich has played eleven matches from September till now and they have won nine matches and they draw only two matches and have not lose match within that month, that's how they no the team has the best performance, so however Bayern Munich is seriously on a good form this season so for now they are unbeaten.
Bayern Munich are definitely favorites against Manchester United. If Bayan Munich enters the field against Manchester United with their best XI, then Manchester United will be defeated by a big margin against Bayan Munich. Manchester United was one of the best teams in the English Premier League but their performance has been poor since last season. Manchester United qualified for the Champions League this season There are doubts whether they will be able to qualify for the Champions League next season because after the first ten matches Manchester United are not in a good form. Manchester United's win against Bayern Munich is hard to come by so I think they have to plan for a point. If Manchester United plan for a point then maybe they can succeed in their plan.

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November 01, 2023, 04:17:04 AM
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The key match on Group A is without a doubt the match that will take place between Manchester United and Galatasaray at November 29, as any team that gets that win will become the runner up of that group and make it to the next round, however the match Manchester United will hold against Copenhagen is very important too, as if they can win and Galatasaray losses or draws with Bayern Munich this will allow them to snatch away the second position from the group before their key match, an eventuality which could put additional pressure over Galatasaray and make them to perform poorly under so much pressure.
This will be a fierce competition in group A and in my opinion Galatasaray will have a slight advantage because the crucial match against Manchester United will be played at Galatasaray's home ground so they have a big chance of winning, although it will still be fierce and Manchester United cannot be underestimated.
Manchester United's performance is currently in a very bad state, so many people doubt that they can qualify from the group phase.
And against Capenhagen it will also be difficult for Man United, the match will be played at home to Copenhagen and when the first leg was played at Old Trafford, the Man United team won by a narrow score and the match was also very fierce.

There is no chance to underestimate the Manchester United team. They are undoubtedly stronger than Galatasaray. However, Manchester United's performance this season is very weak. Not only are they performing poorly in the Champions League, the team's performance in the Premier League is even worse. Manchester United failed to win against Galatasaray at home. They have lost two out of three matches. They got a narrow 1-0 win against Copenhagen in the last match. I don't think Manchester United will win against Galatasaray with such a poor performance. Galatasaray's players will be confident in the home match. I will say the match will be a draw or Galatasaray will win. I don't consider Manchester United as favourites.

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November 01, 2023, 04:33:09 AM
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After seeing Newcastle struggle against Dortmund that much I also think they will have a hard time reaching next round in the Champions League. They had this difficulty even in their home stadium I mean. I'm not sure if they have learned their lesson to retaliate Dortmund in Germany next time. They had better do so if they want to see later rounds.

I feel like Newcastle can get at least one point against PSG (maybe) and Milan if we don't see a big change in those teams. Newcastle demolished PSG as you can remember and resisted Milan in San Siro really great.

PSG are much stronger in home matches though so that's why there is a maybe there.

It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.

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November 01, 2023, 06:03:28 AM
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Manchester United will play Copenhagen next, then Galatasaray after that. Those are the two games that will determine their survival. Manchester United will play those two games away from home, making it very difficult fixtures. If they do not win both of those matches they'll have an even slimmer chance of survival.
I doubt they'll be able to Copenhagen in Denmark and Galatasaray in Turkey. Gala plays very well, and they were able to get all three points at Old Trafford, they'll be able to do it again at Rams Park.
Copenhagen too is good at home, they play well at home.

So no, Manchester United's position is not safe, they're going to need to do all they can to win these two games so even if they lose to Bayern in the final week of the Ucl group stage they'll still finish second in the ground.
Manchester United on good position depend with their opponent teams on upcoming match and can make better position standings awhile because 2nd standings position Galatasaray will face Bayern Munich. If can get three points against Copenhage have make easy on next match for Manchester United get one slot on 16th round with two matches left facing Galatasaray and Bayern Munich on last match. In this current standings, I think Copenhagen will be teams for giving points to their opponent teams and if Manchester United can take points with weakness opponent team they will face difficult opponent teams against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich.

Have difficult position for Manchester United three matches left in Champion League, have one home match against Bayern Munich on last match its not good option if fail winning in two away matches later against Copenhangen and Galatsaray.

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November 01, 2023, 07:36:37 AM
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It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.

Merely looking at the both teams one can easily give the odd to PSG but the ethics of football are changing this days as those teams that people give their confidence on, gives disappointment at the end so their might actually be a drama in this game.

Though PSG seems to be stronger than Newcastle base on the fact that PSG has more experience and world class players, Newcastle at the other hand though not too consistent but their performance sometimes are awesome.











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November 01, 2023, 08:11:24 AM
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It will going to be a tough match for both team, but PSG will use home advantage to destroy the effort of Newcastle to maintain a good position in the group F. I know, games can change at anytime but it will be very difficult for this match to change for the favour of Newcastle because PSG manager has a lot of potential players that are set to showcase their skills for their fans to believe that they stand on a solid ground to make things function well in this summer. PSG will be my favorite team, and they will not allow any mistakes to occur that will make the match end up draw 1-1 than to use some strategies they have never use before to defeat Newcastle 2-0 for the favour of PSG.
PSG has a much better chance of winning the group and Newcastle must fight to get points above Dortmund if they want to progress to the next round. PSG have collected six points while Dortmund and Newcastle have collected the same four points. PSG will face AC Milan at home and Newcastle will visit Dortmund's headquarters. If you look at the opportunities in this group, PSG and Dortmund are in a slightly more advantageous position compared to Newcastle and AC Milan.

The competition in this group will be much more interesting compared to other groups because the four representatives are teams that have fairly balanced players. AC Milan, which was previously the favorite, is currently at the bottom of the Group F standings for the time being and they need to win in the remaining matches if they want to qualify for the next round.

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November 01, 2023, 09:19:25 AM
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Merely looking at the both teams one can easily give the odd to PSG but the ethics of football are changing this days as those teams that people give their confidence on, gives disappointment at the end so their might actually be a drama in this game.
There is nothing strange with PSG and also with football ethics lately because what has happened is something that is absolutely a result of the development of each team so it is not worthy of being called a drama because all teams are fighting to become the best in the Champions League even though the team is highly distrusted by many people now.

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Though PSG seems to be stronger than Newcastle base on the fact that PSG has more experience and world class players, Newcastle at the other hand though not too consistent but their performance sometimes are awesome.
Even though Newcastle's experience in the Champions League is still slightly lower than PSG, every team in Group F still has to be wary of Newcastle as a tough opponent because currently Newcastle has the same number of points as Dortmund in the group standings and this could still be dangerous. PSG is in first place in the group standings even though PSG is two points away from the two teams.
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