UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[Joca97]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

[Strongkored]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

If there is a problem in a team, of course, the problem is the whole team, but because it is easier to change a coach than to replace players, it is always the coach who will be more criticized and rumored to be replaced by another because the one who will build a better team is the coach, he is people who will start to think about which players will fit into their squad and according to the strategy they will implement.
Criticism of Ten Hag only shifted slightly from that usually aimed at his player Harry Maguire.
However, I agree that players often don't give 100%, one example is how bad their forward players are this season, plus with a weak defense, so this is a complete combination to show how weak United is this season and the Champions League will be difficult for them to beat even though they can be said to be being in a group that is not too difficult since their draw is one of the teams that is predicted to pass the group phase but looking at the current situation they need to work harder to make that happen.

[Blitzboy]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

The way Manchester United has been playing recently has discouraged me as well. The team seems tired, and I think the coach is to blame for this. I've noticed that there has been poor decision-making on the field, and other decisions, like benching Ronaldo, were perplexing. I've seen Ronaldo flourish in his new squad, which begs the question of Manchester United's coaching choices. There is significant room for improvement in their Champions League adventure. Their gameplay's disarray and lack of rhythm has affected their performance in several competitions, I've noticed. I had great expectations for the team this season, therefore it hurts.

[Zoomic]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

There is always a problem or misunderstanding between a coach and the fans regarding the players he selects for every match, especially when the team eventually losses the match.
See what I meant;
Every fan knows their favourite players which happen to be the most quality players of the club. The coach is also aware that those players are the best. The fans then will always want to these quality players to start every match. Meanwhile the coach will have to balance the team by using the top performance in the training and the most disciplined players. The quality players tend not to be disciplined and sometimes don't perform well in the training. When the coach drops these quality players and eventually losses the match, every blame goes to the coach.
This is the type of problems that the coaches face, especially Ten Hang who value respect and discipline more than winning matches.

[Luzin]

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

He hopes to bring Dutch football culture from Ajax to Man United. But all failed, the strategy is difficult to implement in the EPL. Fast game play and a lot of tight pressure from players make it difficult for players to carry out Ten Hag's instructions. Moreover, there are not many Man United players who can hold the ball for long. After panicking, they finally made a long pass forward. Whereas up front no player is strong enough to receive the ball as a bounce. In addition, the support of midfielders is also often late. I think Man United will only go through in the group phase and get knocked back into the Europa League.

[Davian144]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

If you are annoyed with Manchester United's performance this season in the Champions League and Premier League, I think you are the wrong fan of that team. And actually Manchester United is not affected by their own fame this season, but Manchester United is only affected by their own way of playing and by several players who are still injured. So the coach must be able to make different strategies to improve Manchester United's performance in order to be better this season because they have experienced a series of bad performances at the moment.

[Hirose UK]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

The biggest mistake in the Manchester United squad was in the hands of Ten Hag as coach and so far there hasn't really been any surprising breakthroughs shown by Manchester United while being coached by Ten Hag.
Initially he threw away several old players by replacing young players but it was all in vain and Manchester United is now feeling the financial loss.

Several problems arose and there was little conflict between the players, but all of this would actually worsen the atmosphere and also affect the team performance when competing because it would definitely cause misunderstandings between the players.

Those who are pro Manchester United say that currently there is good development but I myself don't see it, there is any development shown by Manchester United.
If they only play against weak teams then I believe they can win but this is UCL match and there are strong teams in each group.

[mv1986]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

If you are annoyed with Manchester United's performance this season in the Champions League and Premier League, I think you are the wrong fan of that team. And actually Manchester United is not affected by their own fame this season, but Manchester United is only affected by their own way of playing and by several players who are still injured. So the coach must be able to make different strategies to improve Manchester United's performance in order to be better this season because they have experienced a series of bad performances at the moment.

A fan who doesn't get emotional when his team plays bad or does not have any success is not a real fan to me. What's wrong about being upset when the team you support is underperforming all the time. In my opinion this is normal and doesn't make him a "wrong fan", but quite the opposite, which is a true fan.

I can understand every fan who is upset given that Manchester United had a great chance against Copenhagen and Galatasaray to make this a wonderful season and look forward to some great games in the knockout stages of the Champions League, but instead they are losing games that nobody saw coming. I am surprised, I can tell you that I thought this group is Bayern Munich and Manchester United, but it's looking dark for the Red Devils.

[masulum]

A fan who doesn't get emotional when his team plays bad or does not have any success is not a real fan to me. What's wrong about being upset when the team you support is underperforming all the time. In my opinion this is normal and doesn't make him a "wrong fan", but quite the opposite, which is a true fan.

how can we not be upset when seeing our favorite team become mediocre for 10 years? Just imagine, we support the club either directly or only via TV, but we feel the same atmosphere of victory and defeat. We support the team not only because of the big name, but the community and the same emotions. If we are not angry, maybe our emotions with the club are still not strong. However, MU has been asleep for a long time, at worst Milan has already given the Scudetto, while MU, in UCL, UEL and EPL, they have not shown anything for their supporters. While supporters need a trophy.

[JeffBrad12]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

At least there must not be another garbage mount to come. Ten Hag, the coach of the team, has made some notable player acquisitions such as Reguilon from Tottenham, Mount from Chelsea, and Onana from Inter Milan. However, these players have not been performing up to expectations, particularly Mount. This guy is useless player now. EPL is far tougher compared with ajax's league. It doesn't even make sense to implement the same strategy used by when he was coaching ajax to the manchester united.
I think that ten hag must take a look at how ange was able making totenham far better than previous season. Ange's performance in this season is far better compared with ten hag. Ten hag needs to take a look at how ange was changing totenham to be one of capable club in EPL this time.

I have hread that MU has denied rumor to replace ten hag and the club is still trying to keep him much longer than i thought. This is a disaster for whole of MU fans. They were yelling ten hag to leave from the club.
Another bad result will come again. The manchester united fans need to accept the fact if united becomes a mediocre team this time.

[indah rezqi]

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He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

The biggest mistake in the Manchester United squad was in the hands of Ten Hag as coach and so far there hasn't really been any surprising breakthroughs shown by Manchester United while being coached by Ten Hag.
Initially he threw away several old players by replacing young players but it was all in vain and Manchester United is now feeling the financial loss.

Several problems arose and there was little conflict between the players, but all of this would actually worsen the atmosphere and also affect the team performance when competing because it would definitely cause misunderstandings between the players.

Those who are pro Manchester United say that currently there is good development but I myself don't see it, there is any development shown by Manchester United.
If they only play against weak teams then I believe they can win but this is UCL match and there are strong teams in each group.

Manchester United failed to manage the internal conflict that occurred and seemed to let it drag on until today, this has been the main factor in their drastic decline in performance. Furthermore, everyone involved in the club does not seem to be walking in one direction, the vision and mission are aligned with the same goal of building United towards its return to glory. Other problems such as player injuries complement the strategic errors implemented by Ten Hag, in the end the setback that is occurring now is inevitable.

There are a lot of issues going on behind the scenes, and I think the problems at hand are more complex than we see. I think some of us still remember Mourinho controversial statement in 2019, which when viewed in light of United current situation is very relevant. Their steps in the UCL will really determine Ten Hag future, however The Red Devils squad must win to get out of this big pressure.

[rendravolt]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

His idealism as a Manchester United coach is still lacking and that is why he deserves attacks from various parties, especially Manchester United fans themselves. His decision to recruit several Ajax players was very inappropriate and he should have chosen other players considering the quality of the competition he played in was much greater.

Maybe he should have the courage to throw away some players who seem to lack a winning mentality and he has to do that if he wants to take Manchester United to a better place. We know that players like Antony, Rashford and Bruno sometimes make things more difficult and Erik ten Hag must have the courage to back up these players so they don't become dependent. If Erik ten Hag still believes in the idealism he brought before then the results will remain the same without any changes. I also heard there was tension in the dressing room and that really reflects the current situation. However Erik ten hag is the most appropriate person to blame for this.

[puloweh555]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

The way Manchester United has been playing recently has discouraged me as well. The team seems tired, and I think the coach is to blame for this. I've noticed that there has been poor decision-making on the field, and other decisions, like benching Ronaldo, were perplexing. I've seen Ronaldo flourish in his new squad, which begs the question of Manchester United's coaching choices. There is significant room for improvement in their Champions League adventure. Their gameplay's disarray and lack of rhythm has affected their performance in several competitions, I've noticed. I had great expectations for the team this season, therefore it hurts.

It is very difficult to coach a big team that is always in the media spotlight, it is difficult to control players who easily talk to the media. Imo, actually last season Man United started to show Ten Hag's playing style. player triangles during build up, player rotation or counter pressing. The problem was that last season Man United played too much so the players ended up getting tired and their performance declined. In terms of playing style, it looks 50% last season.

This season we hope that in terms of playing style it will improve, but many players will get injured and burn out. My feeling is that Ten Hag is very strict and hard in training, I need to remember that Man United players are currently lazy and complain a lot in the media, I think the players can't follow Ten Hag's hard training so their performance drops.

And right. Plus the dressing room wasn't conducive because there were several players who wanted to be thrown out and didn't get along with Ten Hag, they just couldn't. I think these players are the source of the problem and like to leak negative things to the media. I still hope that Man United can rise in the UCL league and can win all the remaining matches.

[Weawant]

The way Manchester United has been playing recently has discouraged me as well. The team seems tired, and I think the coach is to blame for this. I've noticed that there has been poor decision-making on the field, and other decisions, like benching Ronaldo, were perplexing. I've seen Ronaldo flourish in his new squad, which begs the question of Manchester United's coaching choices. There is significant room for improvement in their Champions League adventure. Their game play's disarray and lack of rhythm has affected their performance in several competitions, I've noticed. I had great expectations for the team this season, therefore it hurts.

Currently in the champions league I don't think there's really enough of that time for Manchester to really improve because they have just two more games to determine how long they will still stay in the UCL so all they need currently is to win those two matches.

Talking any further about Manchester united performance is almost exhausting because regardless of the much talk they still don't improve and it continually saddens those who are concern but we still keep hopes alive that they become better sooner than we ever because this has even cost some persons to rethink if they can continually remain fan of Manchester united with all this consistent poor results.

[poodle63]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

If you are annoyed with Manchester United's performance this season in the Champions League and Premier League, I think you are the wrong fan of that team. And actually Manchester United is not affected by their own fame this season, but Manchester United is only affected by their own way of playing and by several players who are still injured. So the coach must be able to make different strategies to improve Manchester United's performance in order to be better this season because they have experienced a series of bad performances at the moment.

You can't sure if the real fans need to be patience waiting for the golden time of united to comeback again. People have limit on their patience. Just because it was their favorites club and it doesn't mean they have no right to be annoyed with mediocre performance showed by their favorite teams. It was happening for so many years and the fans shall also be frustatred caused by what they saw. They can't accept their favorite teams to face another lose streak. it will be only hurting their trust to the club.
It's a common thing to see the fans are having their emotions flaming up. They deserve to see their favorites club to perform better like what they have expected but that's sad the club can't deliver it.

[Raflesia]

Actually when talking about Bayern in the Champions League group stage I think their position is always certain to qualify because looking at the record for the last few seasons in the Champions League for Bayern they are always at the forefront and I have never seen Bayern lose their matches in the group phase since the last few seasons even for the previous 2 seasons they always qualify from the group phase without ever tasting defeat or draw so for now it is also possible to be like that.
Bayern are one of the clubs that have actually been confirmed to qualify and now the same especially with them being very comfortable at the top there is no reason for them not to qualify it's just that after the group phase especially for the quarter-finals that has always been their problem in the Champions League because for the last 2 seasons even though they have a perfect record in the group phase, they have always stopped in the quarter-finals.

Not only am I the favorite to get to the last 16, but I think this season Bayern Munich is also the favorite to reach the semi-finals because of their form. Harry Kane has been very strong as the main striker this season where he has scored 2 goals and 2 assists in the Champions League and 12 goals and 5 assists in the Bundesliga in 9 appearances.

The group stage felt easy for them considering that there was no team that could really complicate their winning plans. Galatasaray and Manchester United have failed to prevent Bayern Munich from winning in previous matches, Copenhagen even less so. In fact, I really believe that Bayern Munich can sweep all the group stage matches with a win, that's possible this season.

As I said before, even though Bayern are strong candidates and favorites who will not have any obstacles in the group phase, but reflecting on the previous 2 seasons they always finished in the quarter-finals because they had to lose to several clubs even smaller than them, such as in the last 2 seasons Bayern had to lose to Villarreal which was unexpected and last season they had to lose to Manchester City.
This will clearly bring up a new condition where they will definitely have the same problem as before if their pot is not too good when the draw later.
This is also not a problem of performance because in the previous 2 seasons they still have Lewandowski and last season they lost to the defending champions but indeed this is proof that qualifying for the semi-finals is not easy to do so Bayern even though they are strong there is still no guarantee to qualify because surprises always happen in every season.

[ndutndut]

The way Manchester United has been playing recently has discouraged me as well. The team seems tired, and I think the coach is to blame for this. I've noticed that there has been poor decision-making on the field, and other decisions, like benching Ronaldo, were perplexing. I've seen Ronaldo flourish in his new squad, which begs the question of Manchester United's coaching choices.

According to me. Ten Hag was too much when he took control of Man United but made the wrong decisions from the start. He seems to not like Ronaldo and he wants to get rid of Ronaldo by often being on the bench. He should, like Zidane, trust players who have quality and a lot of experience. After all, Ten Hag is a new coach with limited achievements, and it is natural that Ronaldo is angry because he is underestimated.

There is significant room for improvement in their Champions League adventure. Their gameplay's disarray and lack of rhythm has affected their performance in several competitions, I've noticed. I had great expectations for the team this season, therefore it hurts.

The crux of the problem is that Ten Hag really can't position himself and doesn't seem to have the ability to embrace his players. So it's not surprising that Man United could be that bad because Ten Hag lost the dressing room. No matter who plays it, no one can perform well. Yes, we just have to count the days when he will be fired, if in the next match Man United cannot get three points against Chopenhagen.

[bering]

Before Champion league started most people were predict Benfica can able to advances to the next round with Inter Milan but surprisingly Benfica was displayed poor performance which make their position at the bottom of group standings Benfica even lose from Salzburg however with 3 times loses Benfica have slim chances to advances to the next round but their highest position probably at 3rd position at the end of group stages

Benfica will fight against Sociedad next week and this match probably will be determined Benfica final position at group D because if Benfica lose again then Sociedad is became the team who will advances to next round along with Inter Milan and indeed i was a bit surprised to see Sociedad performance because they can able to stole point from Inter Milan and beat Benfica and it could be a fantastic achievement to Sociedad if they can able to fight at round of 16 because if i am not mistaken they never done this before

[junder]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

If you are annoyed with Manchester United's performance this season in the Champions League and Premier League, I think you are the wrong fan of that team. And actually Manchester United is not affected by their own fame this season, but Manchester United is only affected by their own way of playing and by several players who are still injured. So the coach must be able to make different strategies to improve Manchester United's performance in order to be better this season because they have experienced a series of bad performances at the moment.

You can't sure if the real fans need to be patience waiting for the golden time of united to comeback again. People have limit on their patience. Just because it was their favorites club and it doesn't mean they have no right to be annoyed with mediocre performance showed by their favorite teams. It was happening for so many years and the fans shall also be frustatred caused by what they saw. They can't accept their favorite teams to face another lose streak. it will be only hurting their trust to the club.
It's a common thing to see the fans are having their emotions flaming up. They deserve to see their favorites club to perform better like what they have expected but that's sad the club can't deliver it.

Honestly, I can't be sure when Man United can get back up from its slump, I think this season there is nothing more that true fans can expect from this club, successive defeats have always been Man United's best friend this season which has caused them to drop far from the standings, looking at the Premier League statistics, position 8 of the standings is a disappointing area for fans for a team like Man United.

Of course, with conditions like this it is only natural that the fans are very disappointed with their proud club by throwing some unpleasant assumptions, none other than that as a form of disappointment to the club, nothing more than that, as you said because the fans also have the right to see their proud club perform well according to expectations. It's quite dangerous in my opinion if the fans' trust is destroyed. Yes for this time there may be some fans who are still patient, and I am quite curious what actions Ten Hag will take next to improve his team, I hope Man United can win the next match against Copenhagen in the UCL and Fulham in the Premier League. It doesn't matter in what way they get the full three points, and certainly they must be able to win in these two matches at least to restore the confidence of the fans.

[Litzki1990]

I have a slightly different opinion from yours. I believe that PSG and Newcastle will be the next two teams to advance. The upcoming head-to-head match between them and Dortmund can be considered the deciding game for the second spot. It would add more drama if PSG loses to Milan, and Newcastle and Dortmund draw. In such a scenario, the group's excitement will persist until the final matches.

I have always said that Manchester United have good players but they have failed to perform well with good players. They are certainly a popular club but they are not a well performing club at the moment. I must say they are performing poorly this season as per the way they performed last season. They are able to play in the Champions League this season because of their relatively good performance last season, but the way they are performing in the English Premier League this season makes it doubtful whether they will be able to qualify for the Europa League. Since we believe they have good quality players in their club then why Manchester United are not performing well even with good quality players in their club. Where is their problem?

I see the chemistry in their game is not well established, something is off and I'm sure it's because of their chemistry. Erik Ten Hag has not been able to really stabilize this team so far and the doubts about him are now more pronounced. The players he has are of good quality, but that is not enough, because in team play they also need chemistry in order to implement the strategy properly.
Apart from that, some players also performed below their best. Their new goalkeeper in fact still hasn't found his best game like before joining Manchester United.

Manchester United have added a new goalkeeper to their club this season to avoid a goalkeeper crisis, but even after signing a new goalkeeper, it seems they are not quite satisfied with their goal posts. There is no reason to be complacent about Manchester United's goal posts. In every match we see Manchester United conceding a lot of goals. They are conceding too many goals in every match and blaming the goalkeeper but Manchester United should focus on the state of their defense and midfield rather than blaming the goalkeeper. Manchester United players can never be included in the list of worst players but for some reason it seems like every single Manchester United player has gone off form together last season and this season. Every player has gone out of form together which is why the team's performance is so bad at the moment.