UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[Zanab247]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

Just wait till the middle of this champions league to see Manchester united in another level that will make you to love their game whenever they want to play their opponent, and then you will know that Manchester united is not a small team you can just predict failure and it will come to stand in the future. I guess, Manchester united coach has discovered what made them to lose last game which the coach made some promised that he will train his players to win their next game to clear the air that he is capable to lead the team to a standard ground.

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

[Oluwa-btc]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

I don't always subscribe to what Wazza gas to say because of bias and some personal disgust he has for Cristiano Ronaldo. LoL. But in this case Wayne Rooney is a player that knows the club in and out and I have to stand with him on this one.
I'll channel this to a player like Marcus Rashford of Manchester United, he has been the worst players ever since the start of this season. Aside that, he's been more of a self centered player than a team player and that affects the flow of ball in the Manchester United attack.

Erik Ten Hag should handle this pressure very well, that's the beauty of a great manager. I'd love to see his statement happening with how era's comes to an end. I'd love that!

[Awaklara]

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.

[hahay]

A fan who doesn't get emotional when his team plays bad or does not have any success is not a real fan to me. What's wrong about being upset when the team you support is underperforming all the time. In my opinion this is normal and doesn't make him a "wrong fan", but quite the opposite, which is a true fan.

how can we not be upset when seeing our favorite team become mediocre for 10 years? Just imagine, we support the club either directly or only via TV, but we feel the same atmosphere of victory and defeat. We support the team not only because of the big name, but the community and the same emotions. If we are not angry, maybe our emotions with the club are still not strong. However, MU has been asleep for a long time, at worst Milan has already given the Scudetto, while MU, in UCL, UEL and EPL, they have not shown anything for their supporters. While supporters need a trophy.

Yes, feel free to get angry and express your emotions, but one thing you have to remember, even if you do and/or act like that, it won't bring about big and fast changes for the team. After all, Manchester United's failure happened a long time ago, but why are you just realizing it now. Despite the fact, when Erik ten Hag was appointed head coach of Manchester United, fans were initially enthusiastic. Then, Erik ten Hag managed to produce good results in his first season but unfortunately, in the second season Erik ten Hag failed but strangely, fans were angry and emotional with this result, even though previously fans supported Erik ten Hag for Manchester United.

[shinratensei_]

Everyone attacked Erik ten Hag so much that they forgot about one very important factor - that football is a team game and the fate of the team depends not only on the coach but also on the players themselves.
Did you hear what Wayne Rooney said about this?
he supported Hag, saying that a lot depends on the coach and the whole club is angry with Hag because of the previous matches, but we should not forget that the players themselves did not give their all one hundred percent. I think Rooney is right.

He could have done better in selecting the players. He also had a big transfer window and didnt bring any special players just bought some players from Ajax. He tried to bring the gameplay from Ajax to Man Utd and that just dosent work. Some players dont even like him so this causes problems in the dressing room and thats where the bad results come from aswell.

His idealism as a Manchester United coach is still lacking and that is why he deserves attacks from various parties, especially Manchester United fans themselves. His decision to recruit several Ajax players was very inappropriate and he should have chosen other players considering the quality of the competition he played in was much greater.

Maybe he should have the courage to throw away some players who seem to lack a winning mentality and he has to do that if he wants to take Manchester United to a better place. We know that players like Antony, Rashford and Bruno sometimes make things more difficult and Erik ten Hag must have the courage to back up these players so they don't become dependent. If Erik ten Hag still believes in the idealism he brought before then the results will remain the same without any changes. I also heard there was tension in the dressing room and that really reflects the current situation. However Erik ten hag is the most appropriate person to blame for this.

I think that it's not right to blame ten hag for all of bad results happened in united. He shall not become the only party that need to be blamed. There is also low quality players that were performing so inconsistent and bad. These players deserve to be blamed by the fans as well. It doesn't matter how good the coach if it has low quality players and the coach will not be able to give good result for the team. Many people are only being concentrated on him but they forgot that if some defenders were performing so badly. All of components must be blamed here cuased by they have their own roles. Just because ten hag was a coach and he would be responsible for all of bad results that happened in the manchester united.
There is also fake rumor said that if manchester united will sack him as soon as possible. It's very disappointed to see that how the fake news is also attacking him at this moment.

People can try to put some respects toward him.

[Iranus]

Before Champion league started most people were predict Benfica can able to advances to the next round with Inter Milan but surprisingly Benfica was displayed poor performance which make their position at the bottom of group standings Benfica even lose from Salzburg however with 3 times loses Benfica have slim chances to advances to the next round but their highest position probably at 3rd position at the end of group stages

My guess was that Inter Milan and Real Sociedad would qualify for the next round. And both these teams are now at the top of the table. Real Sociedad won two matches and drew one. I didn't consider the Benfica team as favourites. Because the performance of this team is quite erratic. But I thought I'd see Benfica third in the table. But Benfica's performance is very bad. They have lost all three matches and are currently at the bottom of the table. The team will not be able to qualify for the Europa League. Benfica will probably want to give full focus to Liga Portugal matches. The team is not interested in Champions League matches.

[imamusma]

I think that it's not right to blame ten hag for all of bad results happened in united. He shall not become the only party that need to be blamed. There is also low quality players that were performing so inconsistent and bad. These players deserve to be blamed by the fans as well. It doesn't matter how good the coach if it has low quality players and the coach will not be able to give good result for the team. Many people are only being concentrated on him but they forgot that if some defenders were performing so badly. All of components must be blamed here cuased by they have their own roles. Just because ten hag was a coach and he would be responsible for all of bad results that happened in the manchester united.
There is also fake rumor said that if manchester united will sack him as soon as possible. It's very disappointed to see that how the fake news is also attacking him at this moment.

People can try to put some respects toward him.

Everyone involved in the Man United club must take responsibility for the poor performance of their team, from club officials to players and coaches. This setback will have a huge impact on the club, especially in terms of the income it earns each year. The lack of titles obtained will make United lose the opportunity to get bonuses in every competition they participate in, and will be followed by a decline in the prices of their players in the transfer market.

The various reactions directed at Ten Hag are very natural, it is more about pointing out that he is the main person who must be responsible for every team situation. On the other hand, the urge to be fired is not only experienced by Ten Hag when United plays badly, even in the Chelsea camp currently Pochettino is experiencing the same thing. Of course we have to give respect to every coach, and we will see to what extent Ten Hag will develop The Red Devils this season.

[redsun114]

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.

I agree about this Manchester United is still having good chance, but their internal issues are creating problems for them which is the biggest concern with Ten Hag strategy is also not understandable for anyone what is he trying to do because they are consistently losing matches even after having best squad.

It's really strange in last season against all odds they achieve good results and able to secure place for the Champions League but now suddenly things are going on wrong way and nothing positive happening which is the problem for the all stakeholders in last few matches they were beaten at home by big margin, and now we have few days left as they are going to visit Copenhagen which is also the toughest challenge for them and have to pass through if they want to keep things positive for the next round in this season.

[Jody.Drummer]

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.

The chances of them qualifying from the group stage are still open, the problem is that it is difficult because if they want to ensure that they will qualify one of them is by winning all the remaining matches. It's okay that they can win against Copenhagen, but against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich it's going to be a much tougher job. Galatasaray will also be playing their hearts out against Mancehster United. A draw in my opinion would be enough for them, although we also have to see the result of their match against Copenhagen.

[lizarder]

how can we not be upset when seeing our favorite team become mediocre for 10 years? Just imagine, we support the club either directly or only via TV, but we feel the same atmosphere of victory and defeat. We support the team not only because of the big name, but the community and the same emotions. If we are not angry, maybe our emotions with the club are still not strong. However, MU has been asleep for a long time, at worst Milan has already given the Scudetto, while MU, in UCL, UEL and EPL, they have not shown anything for their supporters. While supporters need a trophy.

Not to mention if we have to stay up late watching our favorite team and lose in a match with a much worse quality of play. Everyone has a favorite team and they have supported that team long before they were successful or not. Annoyance because our favorite team plays badly is the reaction of true fans and I myself am also very angry when my team loses and plays badly in any match. Man United and Milan have not given prestigious trophies to clubs for a long time, especially for the Champions League.

The big names for these two teams began to fade after several other clubs began to show extraordinary improvements. Especially Man United, I was very annoyed when I saw their inconsistent play and in the Manchester United derby they were really embarrassed by the city team and it seemed like there was no resistance at all.

[topbitcoin]

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.

Their chances are still open for the group stage now it's just that as you said with their performance still irregular this becomes difficult for Manhchester United so if indeed they still want good results and qualify for the next phase then what must be considered is to make some new waves by being able to beat Galatasaray and Copenhagen in the next match.
Put Bayern aside because it will be very difficult to touch but as long as they can play well and can overcome Copenhagen and Galatasaray with 3 points then position 2 is wide open for them.

[hahay]

Before Champion league started most people were predict Benfica can able to advances to the next round with Inter Milan but surprisingly Benfica was displayed poor performance which make their position at the bottom of group standings Benfica even lose from Salzburg however with 3 times loses Benfica have slim chances to advances to the next round but their highest position probably at 3rd position at the end of group stages

My guess was that Inter Milan and Real Sociedad would qualify for the next round. And both these teams are now at the top of the table. Real Sociedad won two matches and drew one. I didn't consider the Benfica team as favourites. Because the performance of this team is quite erratic. But I thought I'd see Benfica third in the table. But Benfica's performance is very bad. They have lost all three matches and are currently at the bottom of the table. The team will not be able to qualify for the Europa League. Benfica will probably want to give full focus to Liga Portugal matches. The team is not interested in Champions League matches.

Because last season Benfica had great success by winning the group, and Benfica even managed to surpass PSG and Juventus last season. With these good results last season, it is hoped that this season Benfica will be successful again too. But the facts are very far from expectations, and very far from initial predictions before the season started. Because yes, with the bad results that Benfica got this season in the Champions League, it seems clear that Benfica no longer has a chance of recovering. Because of course, losing all the initial matches in this group phase is a bad result and as such, to finish in third place I'm sure that won't happen.

[khiholangkang]

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We can definitely see Bayern Munich's chances of winning first place in the group, because they won three times easily.

Indeed, the interesting problem discussed is that Galatasaray and Manchester United are fighting for second place. For Manchester United itself, I think it will have a bigger chance if compared with Copenhagen to get full points in their match, and the match between Galatasaray and Bayern Munich is logical. Galatasaray will find it difficult to win, but what if the scenario is changed that Bayern Munich will deliberately give Galatasaray victory? Isn't that something that might happen, and it will certainly be very difficult for Manchester United to catch up from the race for second place in their last match if the scenario is like this.

Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to qualify for the last 16 from Group A this season. We don't know for sure which team will accompany them to the round of 16 even though Galatasaray showed something good in their performance against Manchester United. Moreover, it is not certain that Galatasaray will be able to maintain their form in the next 3 matches, in fact I doubt they will be able to beat Manchester United in the next match.

Manchester United have certainly been in poor form so far this season, but that hasn't cost them their Champions League chances. They can use the next 3 matches to win points, but I am sure that Ten Hag will still have difficulty beating Bayern Munich in the remaining matches.

It is quite difficult to determine who can accompany Bayern Munich who qualify from Group A, because Galatasaray and Manchester United also have the opportunity to get second place, 3 matches for each team are crucial matches to get tickets to the next round.

I honestly have the same thoughts as you, Manchester United even though they are experiencing setbacks, they have a greater chance of getting second place after Bayern Munich than Galatasaray if you look at the performance of the team we know as Manchester United, but on the other hand if galatasaray had the luck to win the match against bayern munchen i think it will be very difficult for manchester united to catch him.

[dezoel]

Before Champion league started most people were predict Benfica can able to advances to the next round with Inter Milan but surprisingly Benfica was displayed poor performance which make their position at the bottom of group standings Benfica even lose from Salzburg however with 3 times loses Benfica have slim chances to advances to the next round but their highest position probably at 3rd position at the end of group stages

Benfica will fight against Sociedad next week and this match probably will be determined Benfica final position at group D because if Benfica lose again then Sociedad is became the team who will advances to next round along with Inter Milan and indeed i was a bit surprised to see Sociedad performance because they can able to stole point from Inter Milan and beat Benfica and it could be a fantastic achievement to Sociedad if they can able to fight at round of 16 because if i am not mistaken they never done this before

I personally surprised with two teams performance in this season in Champions League even both are doing impressive in their domestic leagues with AC Milan and Benfica both were strong candidates for the qualification of the next round with their quality and performance, but sadly both are having no goals in three games but here AC Milan is having advantage they are having two points but Benfica is still with zero which mean things are badly down for them in this season now their next game is against Real Sociedad in Spain which is currently at the top and have surprisingly top spot into their group which will allow them spot into next round.

Inter Milan and Real Sociedad both are having seven points and one goal difference allowing Real Sociedad to stay at the top in last thirty years this is third time Real Sociedad having spot into Champions League with never go into round of 16 but this time they are changing history.

[KTChampions]

Just wait till the middle of this champions league to see Manchester united in another level that will make you to love their game whenever they want to play their opponent, and then you will know that Manchester united is not a small team you can just predict failure and it will come to stand in the future. I guess, Manchester united coach has discovered what made them to lose last game which the coach made some promised that he will train his players to win their next game to clear the air that he is capable to lead the team to a standard ground.

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

It looks like you are the most optimistic United fan not only on this forum but in general! From what I see in the news regarding the sale of part of United to Radcliffe, I can suggest that now everyone in the club is most thinking about what consequences this will entail (the new co-owner may have a different policy regarding many issues). In such conditions, everyone is busy protecting their personal interests and not the affairs of the club as a sports project (purely my proposal).

[marcous]

It is quite difficult to determine who can accompany Bayern Munich who qualify from Group A, because Galatasaray and Manchester United also have the opportunity to get second place, 3 matches for each team are crucial matches to get tickets to the next round.

I honestly have the same thoughts as you, Manchester United even though they are experiencing setbacks, they have a greater chance of getting second place after Bayern Munich than Galatasaray if you look at the performance of the team we know as Manchester United, but on the other hand if galatasaray had the luck to win the match against bayern munchen i think it will be very difficult for manchester united to catch him.

If you look in more detail it's actually very difficult, Man United will first face Copenhagen and Galatasaray will face Bayern Munchen. This means that United must again be able to secure 3 points like in their first leg against Copenhagen, and we know that Munchen will be difficult for the Turkish representatives to beat. So the standings will automatically change after the fourth matchday, and United will occupy second place in the standings with 6 points.

The biggest challenge for the Ten Hag squad is actually when they visit Galatasaray headquarters, I think the meeting on the fifth matchday will determine who will qualify. If you manage to secure 3 points against Galatasaray, then the final group phase match against Munchen enough with a draw. However, currently it is doubtful that this scenario will be realized by The Red Devils, perhaps the match against Fulham will first give us an idea regarding their performance on the fourth matchday.

[boltz]

It is quite difficult to determine who can accompany Bayern Munich who qualify from Group A, because Galatasaray and Manchester United also have the opportunity to get second place, 3 matches for each team are crucial matches to get tickets to the next round.

I honestly have the same thoughts as you, Manchester United even though they are experiencing setbacks, they have a greater chance of getting second place after Bayern Munich than Galatasaray if you look at the performance of the team we know as Manchester United, but on the other hand if galatasaray had the luck to win the match against bayern munchen i think it will be very difficult for manchester united to catch him.

If you look in more detail it's actually very difficult, Man United will first face Copenhagen and Galatasaray will face Bayern Munchen. This means that United must again be able to secure 3 points like in their first leg against Copenhagen, and we know that Munchen will be difficult for the Turkish representatives to beat. So the standings will automatically change after the fourth matchday, and United will occupy second place in the standings with 6 points.

The biggest challenge for the Ten Hag squad is actually when they visit Galatasaray headquarters, I think the meeting on the fifth matchday will determine who will qualify. If you manage to secure 3 points against Galatasaray, then the final group phase match against Munchen enough with a draw. However, currently it is doubtful that this scenario will be realized by The Red Devils, perhaps the match against Fulham will first give us an idea regarding their performance on the fourth matchday.

At this point , I really don't believe United stands a chance to qualify further in UCL and it will also be very hard for them to even achieve 3rd spot to go in Europa League.

What if Ten Haag won't even catch the next game ? No one is really happy with him being the coach of United and fans really have no more patience with him but meanwhile the board seams to trust his project and vision on the long term..

[Distraction]

Things are still well for Atletico Madrid in Group E now maybe. But I think their start is still not convincing enough. Because Atletico Madrid started this season quite impressively. They are doing great in the La Liga. I would like to see the same performance in the Champions League also. They normally have a group which they can finish as leader.

But first the draw against Lazio by a last minute goal and later a draw against Celtic away prevented them from making a stronger start. They could have won against Celtic too actually but that red card pushed them to keep the score instead.

However next time I believe Atletico Madrid will be victorious against Celtic home. This would be important three points for Atletico Madrid before playing the remaining toughest games in the group.

[beerlover]

Even though they are strong candidates in the European League, it look like Sevilla also hopes to appear in the Champions League, Sevilla is trying to get point to qualify from the group stage.
Your think Lens can't win a few match but in reality Lens are much better than Sevilla and they maximize their draw rather than defeat if we looks at the chance it look like Sevilla look a little difficult because Sevilla is already 3 point behind Lens and in the next matches Sevilla will face each other against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium I thinks Arsenal will win it against and Sevilla chances of qualifying will become increasingly difficult and it is possible that Sevilla will compete again in the UEFA European League.

I feel like Sevilla is programmed for Europa league, are they on purpose to finish in 3rd position?

PSV is really like a shit here, they're win streaks in their local league but they can't even win in Champions league. But Arsenal's recent match was lose, so Arsenal isn't that strong to be honest. Though I believe they will able to enter the quarter final regardless the result in group stages.

I mean it wouldn't really shock me if they aim at that, not like they are going to do much in UCL anyway if they go up, so if they end up being third, that would mean they could win the whole europa cup, and that would be a lot better for them.

Plus this is a better way, because in europa cup you are not getting all that much money like UCL, but when you go to UCL group stages and finish third, that means not only you are getting more money that way, you will also be able to win the europa and can get some reputation as well. There is a reason why it's called Sevilla Cup by some people, they are the ones that won it the most and even on their worst years they still have a chance to end up getting it against better teams.

[shogun47]

Even though they are strong candidates in the European League, it look like Sevilla also hopes to appear in the Champions League, Sevilla is trying to get point to qualify from the group stage.
Your think Lens can't win a few match but in reality Lens are much better than Sevilla and they maximize their draw rather than defeat if we looks at the chance it look like Sevilla look a little difficult because Sevilla is already 3 point behind Lens and in the next matches Sevilla will face each other against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium I thinks Arsenal will win it against and Sevilla chances of qualifying will become increasingly difficult and it is possible that Sevilla will compete again in the UEFA European League.

I feel like Sevilla is programmed for Europa league, are they on purpose to finish in 3rd position?

PSV is really like a shit here, they're win streaks in their local league but they can't even win in Champions league. But Arsenal's recent match was lose, so Arsenal isn't that strong to be honest. Though I believe they will able to enter the quarter final regardless the result in group stages.

I mean it wouldn't really shock me if they aim at that, not like they are going to do much in UCL anyway if they go up, so if they end up being third, that would mean they could win the whole europa cup, and that would be a lot better for them.

Plus this is a better way, because in europa cup you are not getting all that much money like UCL, but when you go to UCL group stages and finish third, that means not only you are getting more money that way, you will also be able to win the europa and can get some reputation as well. There is a reason why it's called Sevilla Cup by some people, they are the ones that won it the most and even on their worst years they still have a chance to end up getting it against better teams.

And against someone is claiming that Sevilla players would aim at losing in the Champions League to participate in the Europa League. I can't believe it and I really want to understand how this idea is processed in the brain. Don't get me wrong, but I just can't understand why someone believes that Sevilla wants to lose in order to participate in a way inferior competition "for reputation" reasons. lol

But I have another idea, I believe that Sevilla wants to get relegated into Segunda Division this year because that way they have to celebrate something next year when they win the Segunda Division and get promoted again. It would also strengthen their reputation.

Now I am waiting for the person posting that "Sevilla lost that game on purpose because they knew it was the only way to finish 3rd in the group" when Sevilla loses the next game...