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Author Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season  (Read 141642 times)
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November 05, 2023, 01:08:39 PM
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if Man United is able to get another win, they can beat Copenhagen, of course they still have hope because Galatasaray will definitely lose points against Bayern Munich at home, it will be very difficult because Bayern Munich is too strong an opponent for Galatasaray, so Man United still has a chance to continue in the next round, but this time this match is at home to Copenhagen. are we sure Man United can win? or does it just end in a draw?
TBH, I doubt Man United can win and from my predictions after winning at home with 1 score the next match will end in a draw or Copenhagen wins and if that really happens Man United loses this team will be at the bottom of group A which will be very embarrassing.

my advice would be to be more careful betting on the Copenhagen vs Man United match.
If your speculation is true actually Manchester United still have chance lead to next round but don't forget with Manchester United matches left they have one home and two away matches. After facing Copenhagen, Manchester United will face Galatasaray and if possibility next match United get three points and have 6 points still not secure yet if Galatasaray winning match over Manchester United because last match have strong opponent for United have to face Bayern Munich.

I think Manchester United is not dependent on other teams' results and is focused on achieving the remaining three winning matches left if want existing in Champion League and qualify to next round. What ever other teams result its not important if Manchester United can take maximum 9 pints current three matches left and will get 12 points for qualifying to next round.

I don't expect too much from Manchester United but it will be wonderful to see Manchester United collecting three points from Galatasaray and Copenhagen in the next two games to be played.
Copenhagen are on hell of a side and they are not to be taken lightly with.

Depending on other clubs to win and lose will only get you disappointed, when such challenges come your way even in real life, you take responsibility and face them. The season has really been upsidedown for Manchester United.
It would be so shameful if Man U didn't qualify in the group stage, this is not common with the club even when they are facing challenges in their local league. However, judging from the present results, I could say that Man U is "nothing to write home about," their qualification is shaking and might be certain if they lose one more complete match. I don't know how they will meet up with the challenge now that Galatasaray is still well ahead of them and if they (Galatasaray) could do more to win or draw the remaining matches, it's going to be a huge blow to the face of Man U.

But for Copenhagen, I don't believe they would make it out of the group stage anymore with their current status, this is so ugly for them to say the least. For this, the contest for the first 16 lies between Bayern, Galatasaray and Man U in that same hierarchy as I lined them. Galatasaray is doing so well and is the leading club in the Turkish league now while Man U is struggling so far. Let's see how they (Galatasaray) performed against Bayern on Wednesday as their match with Man U is still towards the end of November, and it's going to be a decider as well.

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November 05, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
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Milan need to make an immediate improvement on their scoring skills in the Champions League. Because we have left behind 3 matches so far and there is still no goal scored by them. This isn't normal thinking of Milan's making a good start to the season in the Serie A. This problem affected even one of their league match badly - which was the one they couldn't score a single goal against Udinese last night.

Therefore Milan should give their everything for scoring goals against PSG first of all. If they break this lock finally their self-confidence would also be boosted quite much.

But when it comes to winning the match I'm not hopeful. PSG are better in home matches as I said before but I think they would still get at least one point here.

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November 05, 2023, 01:41:09 PM
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Manchester United might be lucky to survive this round. If they will be able to win their next match or get a draw. Then it will be easy for them to qualify but they still depend on the win or loss of other teams in the group. My own opinion is for them to step up because it is obvious that if they are able to scale through this stage they might not be able to survive the next round.
Even if they can get through the group phase, Manchester United will also be under even more pressure in the next round. However, it is also very important for Manchester United to qualify for the next round even though there is no guarantee that they will stay there for long, and what Manchester United must do for the three remaining matches in this group phase is to win all of those matches.

If Manchester United is unable to win all the remaining matches, at least Manchester United should not lose one of the remaining matches in the group phase. Because Galatasaray will also try to win all the remaining matches or try to get a draw so that there is a possibility for Galatasaray to qualify for the next round.
I see that Manchester United's chances of qualifying are quite small because the performance of the Manchester United team is currently in a very bad state. Maybe it is quite realistic that Manchester United can only get 3rd place and then go to the Europa League, and in my opinion that is much better.
Currently, Manchester United's performance is very bad and they have to win matches, especially against Galatasaray at Galatasaray's home ground. Sometimes when they play against Manchester United they lose, especially at Galatasaray's home ground.
Although the opportunity still exists, I think it is quite unlikely.
MU will face copenhagen soon and this club needs to put its focus on the upcoming match against copenhagen. Manchester united needs to win the upcoming game before try to change its focus into the match against galatasaray. I do know that how strong galatasaray and copenhagen was also almost equal to the galatasaray. Manchester united sees copenhagen as a very strong team at this time. This is also become the last chance owned by ten hag. People can at least try to give him another chance.

Im sure ten hag wll be trying to solve all of problem. Even though if manchester united will be winning the game with narrow score and that's not a problem. As long as manchester united win and im fine.
So many people will be blaming him if MU will lose against galatasaray.

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November 05, 2023, 01:45:29 PM
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After the victory in the domestic league against Fulham, Manchester United immediately rushed to develop their next strategy against Copenhagen in the Champions League next week. In fact, Manchester United's wins so far have always been dominated by narrow wins and that is actually not good and could make them fall at any time. This time it's Copenhagen's turn to host the second round against Manchester United and of course Copenhagen doesn't want the Red Devils to be free at home and will avenge their previous defeat. This will be a good sign for Manchester United if they succeed in beating Copenhagen, but if the opposite happens then Manchester United's chances will stop in the group stage.

This game won't be like a vacation for Manchester United in Denmark. Copenhagen has made Bayern Munich work so hard for their win and almost scored the second goal themselves in the last few minutes that I think this game is much harder for Manchester United than their opponent's name might suggest. WIth a win Copenhagen could take the second position in group A as I think Bayern Munich will not lose the game against Galatasaray at home. I saw how Galatasaray did against them in Istanbul, but this is a different game in front of the Bayern Munich fans.
That's right, I still remember very well how Bayern Munich was made difficult by Copenhagen at home and made Thomas Tuchel's troops have to work harder to win the match. If we compare the performance of Bayern Munich and Manchester United, of course The Bavaria is above them and that alone is not enough to win easily against Copenhagen. This will be a troublesome away match for Manchester United and it depends on how they can improvise ahead of this match. I think if Manchester United still uses the same strategy or even the same rhythm, it's the same as them looking for defeat at Copenhagen. Galatassaray will not be able to do much in front of the Bayern Munich fans and they will not be able to beat Bayern Munich and that is a fact that other teams always face.

Thomas Tuchel's "troops"! Cheesy No worries, but I found this funny as it really sounds as if Tuchel is commanding some military group.

Talking about a comparison between Bayern Munich and Manchester United, I would like to note that the game in Munich was quite close and Manchester United showed some great skills and also had several more chances to score more goals. Overall that was a good game and I thought if Manchester United plays like that, the season could go quite well for them. They conceded four goals though and they would have to fix that, but in some parts of the game they caused the Bavarians to have some real problems.

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November 05, 2023, 01:58:19 PM
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Milan need to make an immediate improvement on their scoring skills in the Champions League. Because we have left behind 3 matches so far and there is still no goal scored by them. This isn't normal thinking of Milan's making a good start to the season in the Serie A. This problem affected even one of their league match badly - which was the one they couldn't score a single goal against Udinese last night.

Therefore Milan should give their everything for scoring goals against PSG first of all. If they break this lock finally their self-confidence would also be boosted quite much.

But when it comes to winning the match I'm not hopeful. PSG are better in home matches as I said before but I think they would still get at least one point here.

because Milan are in the hell group, with their performance not being good in the Champions League, I am quite pessimistic that they can qualify for the next phase.
Not only in the Champions League, but in Serie A Milan also experienced problems with their front line. Even though they are currently in the top 3 of the standings, their goal productivity is far behind Inter.

facing PSG at home, I hope Milan shows improved performance to dominate the match. they already lost 3-0 in the first round to PSG and now is their chance to avenge their defeat. I just hope they don't play out a goalless draw.

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November 05, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
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if Man United is able to get another win, they can beat Copenhagen, of course they still have hope because Galatasaray will definitely lose points against Bayern Munich at home, it will be very difficult because Bayern Munich is too strong an opponent for Galatasaray, so Man United still has a chance to continue in the next round, but this time this match is at home to Copenhagen. are we sure Man United can win? or does it just end in a draw?
TBH, I doubt Man United can win and from my predictions after winning at home with 1 score the next match will end in a draw or Copenhagen wins and if that really happens Man United loses this team will be at the bottom of group A which will be very embarrassing.

my advice would be to be more careful betting on the Copenhagen vs Man United match.
If your speculation is true actually Manchester United still have chance lead to next round but don't forget with Manchester United matches left they have one home and two away matches. After facing Copenhagen, Manchester United will face Galatasaray and if possibility next match United get three points and have 6 points still not secure yet if Galatasaray winning match over Manchester United because last match have strong opponent for United have to face Bayern Munich.

I think Manchester United is not dependent on other teams' results and is focused on achieving the remaining three winning matches left if want existing in Champion League and qualify to next round. What ever other teams result its not important if Manchester United can take maximum 9 pints current three matches left and will get 12 points for qualifying to next round.

I don't expect too much from Manchester United but it will be wonderful to see Manchester United collecting three points from Galatasaray and Copenhagen in the next two games to be played.
Copenhagen are on hell of a side and they are not to be taken lightly with.

Depending on other clubs to win and lose will only get you disappointed, when such challenges come your way even in real life, you take responsibility and face them. The season has really been upsidedown for Manchester United.
It would be so shameful if Man U didn't qualify in the group stage, this is not common with the club even when they are facing challenges in their local league. However, judging from the present results, I could say that Man U is "nothing to write home about," their qualification is shaking and might be certain if they lose one more complete match. I don't know how they will meet up with the challenge now that Galatasaray is still well ahead of them and if they (Galatasaray) could do more to win or draw the remaining matches, it's going to be a huge blow to the face of Man U.

But for Copenhagen, I don't believe they would make it out of the group stage anymore with their current status, this is so ugly for them to say the least. For this, the contest for the first 16 lies between Bayern, Galatasaray and Man U in that same hierarchy as I lined them. Galatasaray is doing so well and is the leading club in the Turkish league now while Man U is struggling so far. Let's see how they (Galatasaray) performed against Bayern on Wednesday as their match with Man U is still towards the end of November, and it's going to be a decider as well.


One game at a time my brother if they want to qualify, there is every possiblity they wi defeat Copenhagen in the next game on Wednesday and Same goes with Galatasaray, Bayern Munich is not sure but they can try.
I don't want to pray and hope for the failures of Copenhagen and Galatasaray, but if there various games doesn't go as planned for them, at most Galatasaray, Manchester United will over take them in that standing.

Copenhagen are good sides they showed that in the previous fixtures, if not for the late penalty save from Andrea Onana, they woulda shared points with Manchester United. I do believe Manchester United can successfully qualify.

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November 05, 2023, 04:42:36 PM
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I wasn't expecting Milan to start this bad either. Not even being able to score a goal in 3 games is a big shame! The same team made it to the semi-finals last season as you know. How can they go down this much in a short time? After seeing their poor performance in the Udinese game also I can't trust them in the Champions League and in a group of death.

PSG have a good opportunity ahead to get another win to consolidate their lead. It might even almost guarantee their qualification for last 16 as the leader. It depends on how the Dortmund - Newcastle game will finish. I feel like Dortmund wouldn't lose but I can't be sure of them to win again.

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November 05, 2023, 04:44:16 PM
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Lewandowski is no longer the same as he was when he played in Bayern, age is taking its toll and just look at his numbers last year in La Liga - an astonishing result. A year has passed and I doubt that he has become stronger and not aged. Real doesn't have a top striker, so I personally now rate both City and Bayern higher than Real. But in general, surprises always happen in knockout games, so it’s far from certain that we will see these clubs play against each other again (I hope City will be knocked out earlier  Grin ).

I don't agree at all. You say Lewandowski had a good performance just when he was playing in Bayern Munich and after leaving Bayern Munich is not in the good form anymore in Barcelona which is completely wrong. Because I think Lewandowski had a good performance in Barcelona during last season and he was even the most effective player for Xavi and his team but we should not forget that Lewandowski is getting old and that's normal for any player to have a bad performance when he gets older.

 Grin The end of your message contradicts its beginning. The 23 goals he scored in La Liga last season is a ridiculous number. And he became the leader in the number of missed chances. This season he scored 5 goals in 12 games. It's a total sadness. I’m not saying that he’s completely bad, but he’s no longer the top and probably not the one who makes the difference, we’ll see at the end of the season, but apparently this season will be even worse for him than the previous one.
I will not side with anyone opinion but after reading this reply I also have the opinion that Lewandowski used to have a pretty good performance at Barca but this season seems to have declined a bit and not only because he a little old but after suffering an injury yesterday seems like Lewandowski he not perform optimally like yesterday match entering start of the second half, he felt tired and I saw that his path was a bit strange I wondered whether the injury at that time would also affect Lewandowski performance.
I'm just saying about the fact that I see that maybe Xavi will be little confused seeing Lewandowski current decline performance and we can also see a slightly shaky performance every La Liga match but I still hope that at least Barca will have to try first in the CL even though looks unconvincing .
Talking about candidates who will win trophies the CL, I still support Real Madrid even though they don't have a striker, but Bellingham and Vinicius can be relied on and for Bayern Munich + Manchester City are one of the candidates after Madrid.

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November 05, 2023, 04:49:21 PM
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Milan need to make an immediate improvement on their scoring skills in the Champions League. Because we have left behind 3 matches so far and there is still no goal scored by them. This isn't normal thinking of Milan's making a good start to the season in the Serie A. This problem affected even one of their league match badly - which was the one they couldn't score a single goal against Udinese last night.

Therefore Milan should give their everything for scoring goals against PSG first of all. If they break this lock finally their self-confidence would also be boosted quite much.

But when it comes to winning the match I'm not hopeful. PSG are better in home matches as I said before but I think they would still get at least one point here.

because Milan are in the hell group, with their performance not being good in the Champions League, I am quite pessimistic that they can qualify for the next phase.
Not only in the Champions League, but in Serie A Milan also experienced problems with their front line. Even though they are currently in the top 3 of the standings, their goal productivity is far behind Inter.

facing PSG at home, I hope Milan shows improved performance to dominate the match. they already lost 3-0 in the first round to PSG and now is their chance to avenge their defeat. I just hope they don't play out a goalless draw.
AC Milan's performance this season in the UEFA Champions League competition has been poor and way below what we saw from the what we saw from the last season's semi finalists. They have been able to pick up just two points from their first three games in the competition abd from all the indications, I don't think they can make it out of the group  because they'll have to win their remaining three matches in the group stage to stand a chance of progressing to the knockout stages which I think is very unlikely to happen.
They play against Paris Saint Germaine at the San Siro on Tuesday and any result other than a win I think will bury any hope of making it out of the group

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November 05, 2023, 04:57:42 PM
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Without realizing it, our conversation about group A is a very intense one, and for now it trumps our conversation about group F, which is considered a group of hell in the Champions League this season. I think it's because Manchester United are in this group which has an erratic performance from every match they play.
Apart from that, they are also a big club that has experienced great success in the Champions League, especially when they were still managed by Sir Alex Ferguson. It seems that we also miss their promising play.

Even though Group F is the hell group, but at the same time their performance in the local league is also not completely consistent. Perhaps, this factor also made them inconsistent in this group phase. Apart from that, the teams in group F do not have a good history in the Champions League, except for Milan. Because yes, only Milan in this group which has a good history in the Champions League but at this moment too, at least Milan doesn't have a definite guarantee of being able to dominate group F . Therefore, maybe because of this factor it is also what makes this hellish group a little forgotten, although I think it remains become an interesting group because their matches are difficult to predict.
Yes, you are right, although Group F is said to be a hellish group, the clubs in it do not have a good history. Newcastle is a new club in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund can't compete much and we know Paris Saint Germain's progress in the Champions League, they have tried and failed many times.  And even more so they are considered a very difficult club to compete in the Champions League. AC Milan does have a good history, but they also just showed a recent revival, before they also showed a lot of decline.
Group F was a very tough group in terms of teams in the Champions League but we didn't see the kind of tough competition these teams were supposed to have. AC Milan was considered as one of the favorites in the group but surprisingly one of the worst performing teams in the group was AC Milan. PSG can never do well in the Champions League and Dortmund are not in good form, yet these two teams are number one and number two in the points table. Newcastle are a new team but they started well but in the last few matches they have performed very poorly which is why they are now at number three in the points table. There was supposed to be a lot of drama in Group F but we haven't seen that kind of drama yet.

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November 05, 2023, 04:59:27 PM
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I wasn't expecting Milan to start this bad either. Not even being able to score a goal in 3 games is a big shame! The same team made it to the semi-finals last season as you know. How can they go down this much in a short time? After seeing their poor performance in the Udinese game also I can't trust them in the Champions League and in a group of death.

PSG have a good opportunity ahead to get another win to consolidate their lead. It might even almost guarantee their qualification for last 16 as the leader. It depends on how the Dortmund - Newcastle game will finish. I feel like Dortmund wouldn't lose but I can't be sure of them to win again.

Did you know, basically Milan is the only team in Group F that so far has not had any wins at all. Therefore, it is clear that Milan in the Champions League does not have a good chance of qualifying because after all, group F is the hell group in the Champions League this season. Moreover, basically Milan is a team that finds it difficult to be consistent every season. Even though Milan is in the top zone of the Serie A standings, but Milan can still fail when playing against mediocre teams. So yes, it is not surprising that Milan has no chance of qualifying for the last 16 in the Champions League and also, to finish in third place is still difficult for Milan.

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November 05, 2023, 05:02:10 PM
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In the situation as it stands, Manchester United is in a dreadful situation. I think it is more likely that they fail than that they can succeed in this group.
Manchester United is not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they have a lot to improve because it seems difficult to qualify from this group even though there is hope of qualifying, but it doesn't seem too big, just a small chance which is very unlikely, I think Manchester United should focus to the domestic league because for me they need to improve the shortcomings in their squad team which sometimes plays not so well.

The several defeats they received certainly made their fans' self-confidence also decrease and they did not have high hopes that Manchester United could qualify for the group phase because they would definitely be beaten again by Galatasaray and Munich in the second meeting, Ten Hag also seemed unable to produce results. good results from several Manchester United matches both in the domestic league and other leagues. His team play like they don't have the same enthusiasm as in previous seasons, I'm also sure they will fail in this group.

That makes a lot of sense because leaving aside the interest of the club to make it to the next stage of the Champions League not least for financial reasons, the question is what and how would they do in the next round? If they survive this group stage, which would already be surprising, I think nobody believes that they can increase their performance level by so much that they are suddenly competitive enough to challenge the top two or three teams of the other leagues. As you said, they are not ready for the Champions League by any means.
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November 05, 2023, 05:14:44 PM
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Milan need to make an immediate improvement on their scoring skills in the Champions League. Because we have left behind 3 matches so far and there is still no goal scored by them. This isn't normal thinking of Milan's making a good start to the season in the Serie A. This problem affected even one of their league match badly - which was the one they couldn't score a single goal against Udinese last night.

Therefore Milan should give their everything for scoring goals against PSG first of all. If they break this lock finally their self-confidence would also be boosted quite much.

But when it comes to winning the match I'm not hopeful. PSG are better in home matches as I said before but I think they would still get at least one point here.

because Milan are in the hell group, with their performance not being good in the Champions League, I am quite pessimistic that they can qualify for the next phase.
Not only in the Champions League, but in Serie A Milan also experienced problems with their front line. Even though they are currently in the top 3 of the standings, their goal productivity is far behind Inter.

facing PSG at home, I hope Milan shows improved performance to dominate the match. they already lost 3-0 in the first round to PSG and now is their chance to avenge their defeat. I just hope they don't play out a goalless draw.
AC Milan's performance this season in the UEFA Champions League competition has been poor and way below what we saw from the what we saw from the last season's semi finalists. They have been able to pick up just two points from their first three games in the competition abd from all the indications, I don't think they can make it out of the group  because they'll have to win their remaining three matches in the group stage to stand a chance of progressing to the knockout stages which I think is very unlikely to happen.
They play against Paris Saint Germaine at the San Siro on Tuesday and any result other than a win I think will bury any hope of making it out of the group

Yes this season AC Milan is very disappointing, their performance is not like when in the UCL last season, I thought at first they would still be a team that could secure the best position in the group competition but apparently the facts that happened were far from expectations, from the three matches they have passed they barely got any wins, two draws and one loss, so they must be willing to be at the bottom of the group competition, it's really a disappointing result for a team like AC Milan.

Although they still have three matches left but still in my opinion their chances are very small to be able to qualify for the group stage, next AC Milan will face a match against PSG and I think getting the full three points or even for a draw is very difficult for them with the current state of performance, and also on the other hand PSG will not provide any opportunity for them to take advantage of the match because obviously PSG will definitely strengthen its position even though they are already in the top position. It looks like this season AC Milan is really unlucky.

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November 05, 2023, 05:40:00 PM
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In the situation as it stands, Manchester United is in a dreadful situation. I think it is more likely that they fail than that they can succeed in this group.
Manchester United is not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they have a lot to improve because it seems difficult to qualify from this group even though there is hope of qualifying, but it doesn't seem too big, just a small chance which is very unlikely, I think Manchester United should focus to the domestic league because for me they need to improve the shortcomings in their squad team which sometimes plays not so well.

The several defeats they received certainly made their fans' self-confidence also decrease and they did not have high hopes that Manchester United could qualify for the group phase because they would definitely be beaten again by Galatasaray and Munich in the second meeting, Ten Hag also seemed unable to produce results. good results from several Manchester United matches both in the domestic league and other leagues. His team play like they don't have the same enthusiasm as in previous seasons, I'm also sure they will fail in this group.

That makes a lot of sense because leaving aside the interest of the club to make it to the next stage of the Champions League not least for financial reasons, the question is what and how would they do in the next round? If they survive this group stage, which would already be surprising, I think nobody believes that they can increase their performance level by so much that they are suddenly competitive enough to challenge the top two or three teams of the other leagues. As you said, they are not ready for the Champions League by any means.
It wouldn't be really surprising if Manchester united gets pass the group stage of the champions league considering they have 3points already and three more games ahead, if they win two and draw one they could comfortably qualify for the next round of the UCL.

Galatasaray who happens to be at the second position in their group is ahead of Manchester united by one point so it's still very much possible they qualify especially if they win their next meeting with Copenhagen and Galatasaray then draw Munich or possibly win which is very unlikely but then they can't be underestimated regardless of their current form they may possibly improve just before then and it's possible if they get pass the group stage it will be enough boost for their mind to scale through the next round as they will be very much aware of what is ahead, in football anything can always happen it's the game of possibilities.

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November 05, 2023, 05:55:25 PM
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Did you know, basically Milan is the only team in Group F that so far has not had any wins at all. Therefore, it is clear that Milan in the Champions League does not have a good chance of qualifying because after all, group F is the hell group in the Champions League this season. Moreover, basically Milan is a team that finds it difficult to be consistent every season. Even though Milan is in the top zone of the Serie A standings, but Milan can still fail when playing against mediocre teams. So yes, it is not surprising that Milan has no chance of qualifying for the last 16 in the Champions League and also, to finish in third place is still difficult for Milan.
Of course, this is a hellish group because it is inhabited by representatives of great leagues. All teams still have hope of qualifying for the last 16, but it's true, as you said, AC Milan's chances are very small, in fact they will most likely continue to be in fourth place.

In the next match they will face PSG, which we know is that PSG is now back in a good trend after winning in League 1 which made them return to first place in the standings. Of course this will be good capital to face Milan, especially since this match is played at PSG's home ground, of course this will be more capital for PSG to achieve victory against Milan.

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November 05, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
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Manchester United is not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they have a lot to improve because it seems difficult to qualify from this group even though there is hope of qualifying, but it doesn't seem too big, just a small chance which is very unlikely, I think Manchester United should focus to the domestic league because for me they need to improve the shortcomings in their squad team which sometimes plays not so well.

The several defeats they received certainly made their fans' self-confidence also decrease and they did not have high hopes that Manchester United could qualify for the group phase because they would definitely be beaten again by Galatasaray and Munich in the second meeting, Ten Hag also seemed unable to produce results. good results from several Manchester United matches both in the domestic league and other leagues. His team play like they don't have the same enthusiasm as in previous seasons, I'm also sure they will fail in this group.
It's obvious that they had a good season last year in order to be in UCL but this year they are not good enough to be in the UCL at all. I mean looking at the results right now, we are easily capable of saying it would require a big miracle for them to be in the top four at the end of this season, so when you think about it, only the teams who are UCL levels for two years in a row has a chance, because not only they were good enough to participate thanks to results of one year, they were good enough to join again a year later when they are on UCL as well.

United was within top four last season, so they are in UCL this year, but they were good last year, this year they are not top four level and not at UCL level at all. These are all important details because it allows people to have results that they could enjoy and would give them a return that should be more realistic with the way things are going for teams like United and how they end up at group stages.

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November 05, 2023, 06:21:23 PM
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Yes, you are right, although Group F is said to be a hellish group, the clubs in it do not have a good history. Newcastle is a new club in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund can't compete much and we know Paris Saint Germain's progress in the Champions League, they have tried and failed many times.  And even more so they are considered a very difficult club to compete in the Champions League. AC Milan does have a good history, but they also just showed a recent revival, before they also showed a lot of decline.
Group F was a very tough group in terms of teams in the Champions League but we didn't see the kind of tough competition these teams were supposed to have. AC Milan was considered as one of the favorites in the group but surprisingly one of the worst performing teams in the group was AC Milan. PSG can never do well in the Champions League and Dortmund are not in good form, yet these two teams are number one and number two in the points table. Newcastle are a new team but they started well but in the last few matches they have performed very poorly which is why they are now at number three in the points table. There was supposed to be a lot of drama in Group F but we haven't seen that kind of drama yet.
Drama, yes it will happen a lot in this group especially with the uncertainty of all the clubs in this group. As for Newcastle, it would be interesting if they were one of the clubs to make it out of this group, it would be a great achievement if they did.
I think they will also aim for that and show that they can compete with the clubs that are regulars in this Champions League. And if they can qualify it will be an advantage because in this group they will definitely learn a lot, especially mentality problems.

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November 05, 2023, 06:31:41 PM
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Did you know, basically Milan is the only team in Group F that so far has not had any wins at all. Therefore, it is clear that Milan in the Champions League does not have a good chance of qualifying because after all, group F is the hell group in the Champions League this season. Moreover, basically Milan is a team that finds it difficult to be consistent every season. Even though Milan is in the top zone of the Serie A standings, but Milan can still fail when playing against mediocre teams. So yes, it is not surprising that Milan has no chance of qualifying for the last 16 in the Champions League and also, to finish in third place is still difficult for Milan.

If you check the table of this group well, you’ll see that conclusion cannot just be made yet on who will make it to the round of 16 in that group. They have all played three matches and only Milan have failed to get a point amongst the group, but that does not mean we can rule them out just yet. They still have 3 more matches to play in this group stage and we all know that Milan is now a team that is very weak when compared to the rest of the teams in that group. Their failure to earn any point can just be for some circumstances unknown to them also which happens in football. I have not yet concluded or rule out any team yet that are going to make it to the final 16 of the champions league from this group yet. We will await how the second leg matches of this group will turn out, before we can begin to draw conclusions on which team will qualify to the next round or not.

It's obvious that they had a good season last year in order to be in UCL but this year they are not good enough to be in the UCL at all. I mean looking at the results right now, we are easily capable of saying it would require a big miracle for them to be in the top four at the end of this season, so when you think about it, only the teams who are UCL levels for two years in a row has a chance, because not only they were good enough to participate thanks to results of one year, they were good enough to join again a year later when they are on UCL as well.

You have a point in what you’re saying because Manchester United were not playing in the champions league last season and only got to qualify this season because of their good performance last season. For them to remain here the following season, they need to improve in their game both in the domestic league and champions league they are currently playing in now. I won’t be surprised if I don’t see them even making it out of the group stage in the UCL, their performance is not something to hopeful for them for.

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November 05, 2023, 06:53:53 PM
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That makes a lot of sense because leaving aside the interest of the club to make it to the next stage of the Champions League not least for financial reasons, the question is what and how would they do in the next round? If they survive this group stage, which would already be surprising, I think nobody believes that they can increase their performance level by so much that they are suddenly competitive enough to challenge the top two or three teams of the other leagues. As you said, they are not ready for the Champions League by any means.
It wouldn't be really surprising if Manchester united gets pass the group stage of the champions league considering they have 3points already and three more games ahead, if they win two and draw one they could comfortably qualify for the next round of the UCL.

Galatasaray who happens to be at the second position in their group is ahead of Manchester united by one point so it's still very much possible they qualify especially if they win their next meeting with Copenhagen and Galatasaray then draw Munich or possibly win which is very unlikely but then they can't be underestimated regardless of their current form they may possibly improve just before then and it's possible if they get pass the group stage it will be enough boost for their mind to scale through the next round as they will be very much aware of what is ahead, in football anything can always happen it's the game of possibilities.

Ok you describe this as if it should be easy for them to not lose any of the games and even more, win two of the games and tie one. But let's get down to business then and see what their chances are.

What is the chance that Manchester United will beat Galatasaray in Turkey in their home stadium with these crazy fans? I think the chances are 35% at best to win that game. Maybe they tie the game, but that is not enough since they lost the first leg and this could be decisive.

Against Copenhagen it is going to be hard because it is again a game away from Old Trafford. The Copenhagen team is no amateur group. They play hard and physical football and winning against them is tough. But we can assume Manchester United wins it.

The last game against Bayern Munich. Needless to say that it is difficult to predict because Bayern Munich has probably qualified for the next round and might play with their second best formation, but still.

If anything, it will be a tight fight.
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November 05, 2023, 07:43:07 PM
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I guess the favorite will be Galatasaray!
They are now showing a truly beautiful game more than ever. No matter what, they go to the front. look at the game against Bayern. Didn't Galatasaray show skill! This is the same club that deserves the best. It has a perfect balance of defense and incredible attack! that's why they're doing so well! If I'm wrong, correct me!
We will see in the next match at the Allianz Arena, whether Galatasaray is able to beat Bayern Munich to strengthen its position in second place in the standings, because if Galatasaray loses and Manchester United is able to win at home to Copenhagen, it will create greater pressure on Galatasaray's side because Manchester United also still has a chance to qualify if they are able to win the three remaining matches in the Champions League group phase.
After such a useless game from Manchester United, I’m just wildly disappointed.
I firmly believed until the end that the Reds would be able to score, but alas...
Now my eyes are focused on Galatasaray. A club that is rapidly moving forward. and can show a beautiful gam
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