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November 22, 2023, 06:27:02 AM
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Steffano Pioli suffers losses in the starting lineup. The Milan coach announced the injury of two more of his players, namely Rafael Leau and team captain Davide Colabria. The latter was diagnosed with a minor injury, but as for Leau, he has damage to his right hamstring. Leau will miss the match for the national team and most likely the match against Borrusia D.
There are a lot of injuries in the Champions League, isn't there?
Several teams competing in the Champions League? That's right because Real Madrid also experienced the same thing but the conditions were different from AC Milan because Real Madrid had already ensured that they would qualify from the group phase, while AC Milan's match against Borussia Dortmund was very important because if they lost and PSG managed to win against Newcastle then it was certain that they will be eliminated from this competition and this result is worse than last season where they were able to reach the semifinals even though they were not the favorite team. Pioli is facing a difficult situation not only in the Champions League but also in Serie A but because he has been at AC Milan for a long time so he knows the characteristics of all the players well so there is a chance he can overcome this even though the doubt that AC Milan will be fine with this player's injury is very big because currently their condition is indeed declining.

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November 22, 2023, 08:09:46 AM
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Steffano Pioli suffers losses in the starting lineup. The Milan coach announced the injury of two more of his players, namely Rafael Leau and team captain Davide Colabria. The latter was diagnosed with a minor injury, but as for Leau, he has damage to his right hamstring. Leau will miss the match for the national team and most likely the match against Borrusia D.
There are a lot of injuries in the Champions League, isn't there?
Several teams competing in the Champions League? That's right because Real Madrid also experienced the same thing but the conditions were different from AC Milan because Real Madrid had already ensured that they would qualify from the group phase, while AC Milan's match against Borussia Dortmund was very important because if they lost and PSG managed to win against Newcastle then it was certain that they will be eliminated from this competition and this result is worse than last season where they were able to reach the semifinals even though they were not the favorite team. Pioli is facing a difficult situation not only in the Champions League but also in Serie A but because he has been at AC Milan for a long time so he knows the characteristics of all the players well so there is a chance he can overcome this even though the doubt that AC Milan will be fine with this player's injury is very big because currently their condition is indeed declining.
At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.

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November 22, 2023, 08:44:54 AM
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Not a problem and he was actually a lifesaver for his team.
I remember in the last season when Manchester United was not in a good situation and they totally lost the hope because of their place in the league, Ten Hag joined this team and he helped them to improve the team.
That's maybe a good reason to say a coach like Ten Hag needs more time in Manchester United.

Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.

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November 22, 2023, 08:54:57 AM
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PSG no longer have Messi and Neymar but they still have many star players in the club. Star players are not players above average quality but they have higher quality than that. They have a quality coach who have semi final in Euro 2020 with Spain and won Champions League, La Liga with Barcelona.
One of the factors that affect most team or rather club is having excessive star players because most people feel that having all the strong players in one team could boost there performance but on the contrary it doesn't work that way instead it will reduce their performance because nobody will listen to each other.

So however when PSG bought so many stars like Lionel Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, sagio Ramos and so many other good quality players with the belief that they would outperform other clubs but on the contrary they were finding it difficult to perform or wining most of there matches, and even some smaller clubs use to win them, so perhaps with that squad they have losing matches shouldn't have be an option for them, but however since some of there players like Lionel Messi and some other left, PSG was able to breathe and they are playing well more than before.

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November 22, 2023, 09:52:51 AM
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At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
Indeed, in group F now the atmosphere is simply tense.
Milan will not have an easy game and perhaps they will be defeated by Borussia and this will be a shift to last position and perhaps they will remain penultimate in the group. A miracle is needed for Milan fans.
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November 22, 2023, 10:18:56 AM
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Several teams competing in the Champions League? That's right because Real Madrid also experienced the same thing but the conditions were different from AC Milan because Real Madrid had already ensured that they would qualify from the group phase, while AC Milan's match against Borussia Dortmund was very important because if they lost and PSG managed to win against Newcastle then it was certain that they will be eliminated from this competition and this result is worse than last season where they were able to reach the semifinals even though they were not the favorite team. Pioli is facing a difficult situation not only in the Champions League but also in Serie A but because he has been at AC Milan for a long time so he knows the characteristics of all the players well so there is a chance he can overcome this even though the doubt that AC Milan will be fine with this player's injury is very big because currently their condition is indeed declining.
Ac Milan's injury cases are causing loopholes in the certainty of them progressing in the champions league, they're struggling to conquer the group stage phase and there's increasing probability that they'll be out of the contest, they're currently at a time that they'd need to put in more proactive solutions to help them out of their current predicament.

 In their domestic league as well, Ac Milan have not really been up and doing as they're known for, their matches can't even be confidently predicted because they're lagging behind, they're not currently the Ac Milan that we know, the coach himself is experienced with them therefore there's a probability that he'd rectify the default in no time but they really have to up their game if they want to progress through this season without issue, no doubt player's injury causes a backslide in the team but there has to be an alternative replacement for the absent player.
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November 22, 2023, 10:33:55 AM
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Playing against a team like PSG can't be easy for any team and now we are going to have Newcastle playing against PSG while Newcastle needs to win the game and take the full three points from this match because in the four games Newcastle had so far in the group F, they got only four points which means one point per match and this is not good at all.
UEFA Champions League is the ultimate targets for all elite and average clubs, who wouldn't want to lift UEFA Champions League title? Ofcourse PSG are craving such major titles over the past decades and they haven't won any. Luis Enrique have a major test to pass, it's a must to win Newcastle in the coming game because that's how specifically how to win games. Paris Saint Germain have grown to become vulnerable and there's full probability of Newcastle having a chance of winning them in the second leg. Eddie Howe knows the exact spots to hits against PSG at Parc des Princes stadium.

Even PSG has spent billions for nothing. No doubt that if this club is still trying to take another chance again. The upcoming match against newcastle is going to be the most important match for both of clubs. Newcastle really needs three points from PSG but i think that's quite inmpossible to happen since PSG will come with full suqad while newcastle will be missing various players. I can't sure about eddie howe. Newcastle was losing against dortmund two matches in a row.

It shows newcastle is still under problem at this moment. It's caused by the club needs to put more effort against PSG away. Newcastle has no choice anymore, three points or out from the group. Tehre's no chance for newcastle to be placed at the third place.
The club may goe back again to the UCL soon. I can't even wait the most important in the group F. This is going to be another hyped game in UCL. The group F is very interesting to watch as there are some clubs have its last lives.


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November 22, 2023, 10:53:27 AM
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 Arsenal are not enlisted as the best team in UEFA Champions League, remember they have not feature in the Champions league for a long time and watching them bouncing back to actions doesn't surprise me. Arsenal cannot bark as a confident EPL club, rather they do fumbled like an any other EPL club just like Newcastle United and Manchester United.
Currently based on performance in both their domestic League, and the four matches they have played in the Champions League so far, they are not among the best, but cannot be looked down on because they have the hope of winning any team presently in the Champions League because they have the squad to play and win against any big team in the world right mow.

I know that experience matters in Champions League that is why I am directly saying that Arsenal are capable of winning the Champions League, but based on their performance since last season, they will try and they will go far in the Champions League this season.

Anything can happen in a football competition that will surprise you like what happened between Manchester city and Chelsea in the premier league that ended up draw 4-4, but it will be difficult for Arsenal to win the champion league title easily because there are many teams that are well organized to frustrate their efforts not to allow them to win the title. They have defeated many teams in this season, and draw with some small teams but Manchester city and Liverpool will not allow them to win the title but they can struggle for second position to make their fans happy. If you watch some of the tough matches Arsenal played with Chelsea and Brentford, you will know that they can end up in second position in this season , but it will be difficult for them to win the title.

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November 22, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
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Steffano Pioli suffers losses in the starting lineup. The Milan coach announced the injury of two more of his players, namely Rafael Leau and team captain Davide Colabria. The latter was diagnosed with a minor injury, but as for Leau, he has damage to his right hamstring. Leau will miss the match for the national team and most likely the match against Borrusia D.
There are a lot of injuries in the Champions League, isn't there?
Several teams competing in the Champions League? That's right because Real Madrid also experienced the same thing but the conditions were different from AC Milan because Real Madrid had already ensured that they would qualify from the group phase, while AC Milan's match against Borussia Dortmund was very important because if they lost and PSG managed to win against Newcastle then it was certain that they will be eliminated from this competition and this result is worse than last season where they were able to reach the semifinals even though they were not the favorite team. Pioli is facing a difficult situation not only in the Champions League but also in Serie A but because he has been at AC Milan for a long time so he knows the characteristics of all the players well so there is a chance he can overcome this even though the doubt that AC Milan will be fine with this player's injury is very big because currently their condition is indeed declining.
But indeed, talking about Real Madrid is quite a difficult thing because after all, currently there are still a lot of their players who are recovering from injuries which of course this will have an impact on their stability even though there is indeed a benefit where now they are quite comfortable because they don't really need points because Madrid has qualified for the next phase.
It's just that the current injuries will be a nuisance and it's certain that Militao will still need a long time to rest. In addition, now Vini is also having the same problem and will not be in the squad for a few months which is certainly a nuisance.
For Milan this is worse because it could be that with the condition they lost several core players made them have to withdraw early from the Champiosn League competition.

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November 22, 2023, 11:00:13 AM
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Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.

It seems to me that Ten Hag will not have time to make up for lost time and take the team to a new level and even to the level that was before. Now there is a lack of trust in each other in the club. Maybe I’m wrong, but there are changes for the better, but not entirely significant. This is catastrophically not enough for Manchester United's victories.
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November 22, 2023, 11:40:48 AM
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You misunderstood me. Of course I don't mean that they did it intentionally. I mean they lost some points in the La Liga matches while they were doing amazing things in the Champions League. Why would they do this intentionally? Why would I mean such thing man?  Cheesy

Anyway I don't know how much longer they can go on in the Champions League. But remembering what Villarreal did a couple of seasons ago here I wonder whether we would see a similar success by Real Sociedad as well.  Grin

Because those were the words you used Wink But it's ok if you clarify afterwards, thanks for doing it.

But believe me I am sometimes shaking my head when I read the comments here about how some teams "intentionally" lose games in one competition in order to be ready to focus on another competition and I am repeatedly saying that this is bullshit.

No team would do that and no coach would give the order to the players to play with less intensity unless they can afford it because they lead the table by many points. But otherwise every player will take the league seriously. Some here said that players would neglect the Champions League to play better in the league...  Grin Of course, a player is living the dream playing in the Champions League but plays bad to have more energy for the domestic league. I don't know how people can come up with that.

As "sacrifice" has two meanings which are intentional and unintentional I hoped that I would be clear about my words. But I should have chosen a better word for that, apologies.  Grin

When it comes to the fact that you mentioned I really agree with that. Sometimes people indicate it like teams are just overlooking a tournament while focusing on another. I mean there is no way they would do that. Because while you have a chance to have a better achievement why would you turn down one of them?

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November 22, 2023, 12:17:08 PM
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Not a problem and he was actually a lifesaver for his team.
I remember in the last season when Manchester United was not in a good situation and they totally lost the hope because of their place in the league, Ten Hag joined this team and he helped them to improve the team.
That's maybe a good reason to say a coach like Ten Hag needs more time in Manchester United.

Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
Galatasaray is very good in times of performance than Manchester United because Galatasaray has made a lot of good winings on this season champions League if you check there previous meetings against other teams you will agree with me that Galatasaray is in a good form compare to Manchester United because they have made more winings than Manchester United.

And perhaps I don't think Manchester United stannce a chance against Galatasaray because if I can recal very well on there last meeting which was within October Galatasaray win Manchester United when they were playing away, so however if Galatasaray could win Manchester United away is it when they are playing from home they will not win them?











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November 22, 2023, 12:28:32 PM
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But indeed, talking about Real Madrid is quite a difficult thing because after all, currently there are still a lot of their players who are recovering from injuries which of course this will have an impact on their stability even though there is indeed a benefit where now they are quite comfortable because they don't really need points because Madrid has qualified for the next phase.
It's just that the current injuries will be a nuisance and it's certain that Militao will still need a long time to rest. In addition, now Vini is also having the same problem and will not be in the squad for a few months which is certainly a nuisance.
Ancelotti can always rack his brains in fixing and overcoming the problems experienced by Real Madrid regarding several of their recently injured players and just look, even though there are several players who are absent, they can still appear quite impressive in every match.
Moreover, Real Madrid has pretty perfect squad from the core players to the reserve players, they are great players and the UCL is still in the group phase and you can be sure they can qualify easily.
And when they have passed the group phase, there is big possibility that all the players who are undergoing recovery period can return to play for the team and fight for the UCL title or win the La Liga.

I sure they will be able to get through all this with strong ambition and show that even though there are players injured they will still perform as well as before.

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November 22, 2023, 12:36:05 PM
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Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?
I have heard some Manchester United fans saying Ten Hag should be sacked and i am sure this will only take a matter of time before it gets to the ears of the United board and it’s directors and if the teams doesn’t show any improvement soon and they eventually get knocked out of the champions league in the knockout stage then i think the board will also like to consider sacking him except if otherwise they still somehow believe in him and his strategy. Ten hag’s team was way better last season that i got surprised that they were able to make it to the yop 4 despite struggling for some time.

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
To be certain if they want to secure a spot in the next round they would need to win both matches because the three remaining teams still have the same point and they will all want to make it to the knockout as well. Winning Galatasaray away from home will be very difficult but it is not impossible as you said they just need to perform extra and better than they used to, Galatasaray is a stubborn team and they will also want to fight their way to the knockout round. And also winning Bayern will be necessary just incase of a different outcome between Copenhagen and Galatasaray in their final game but i doubt if United can pull this off, i doubt if they can win bayern munich who are one of the most in form team in Europe currently.

 
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November 22, 2023, 12:39:41 PM
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One of the factors that affect most team or rather club is having excessive star players because most people feel that having all the strong players in one team could boost there performance but on the contrary it doesn't work that way instead it will reduce their performance because nobody will listen to each other.

So however when PSG bought so many stars like Lionel Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, sagio Ramos and so many other good quality players with the belief that they would outperform other clubs but on the contrary they were finding it difficult to perform or wining most of there matches, and even some smaller clubs use to win them, so perhaps with that squad they have losing matches shouldn't have be an option for them, but however since some of there players like Lionel Messi and some other left, PSG was able to breathe and they are playing well more than before.
Learning from PSG when signing many top players they can't manage well with some of star player not playing as working team but more ego of them, PSG' manager when have many top players Christophe Galtier faced difficult how to make their teams playing well as one unity team regarding many of the show their individual skill only. PSG can't win UEFA Champion League tittle although have signed Lionel Messi and there are most danger attacking line such as Neymar and Mbappe.

Difference with Manchester City dominance by many top players but Pep Guardiola can manage well with team working and many of them not ego for priority their team mates who has bigger chance for scoring goals. In this season, PSG have secure six points left two matches if want qualify to next round and Luis Henrique have to motivate his player how most important on Champion League matches left if want get one position in 16 round.

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Steffano Pioli suffers losses in the starting lineup. The Milan coach announced the injury of two more of his players, namely Rafael Leau and team captain Davide Colabria. The latter was diagnosed with a minor injury, but as for Leau, he has damage to his right hamstring. Leau will miss the match for the national team and most likely the match against Borrusia D.
There are a lot of injuries in the Champions League, isn't there?
Several teams competing in the Champions League? That's right because Real Madrid also experienced the same thing but the conditions were different from AC Milan because Real Madrid had already ensured that they would qualify from the group phase, while AC Milan's match against Borussia Dortmund was very important because if they lost and PSG managed to win against Newcastle then it was certain that they will be eliminated from this competition and this result is worse than last season where they were able to reach the semifinals even though they were not the favorite team. Pioli is facing a difficult situation not only in the Champions League but also in Serie A but because he has been at AC Milan for a long time so he knows the characteristics of all the players well so there is a chance he can overcome this even though the doubt that AC Milan will be fine with this player's injury is very big because currently their condition is indeed declining.
At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
For some reason, Milan seemed like the weak link to me from the very beginning, now they have become the weak link due to injuries, and you are right, I don't give them much of a chance. So, we have to ask who is the strongest team in Group F, so I cannot speak clearly for this.

Dortmund is first in the group with seven points and they will play against Milan, I think they will easily get points from this match, so I think Dortmund will be the most advantageous team. I cannot predict the PSG and Newcastle match at all, but I can say that it is a great match.

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Not a problem and he was actually a lifesaver for his team.
I remember in the last season when Manchester United was not in a good situation and they totally lost the hope because of their place in the league, Ten Hag joined this team and he helped them to improve the team.
That's maybe a good reason to say a coach like Ten Hag needs more time in Manchester United.

Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.

Erik Ten Hag's last season is enough backing, too much criticisms but it'll definitely take time before good and great things happen. He as a coach should know that he's been given too much time to turn things around. He's also been doing his best, it's just that some important players are absent and most of his plans can't work without these players.

Last season was a sexy one to an extent, Manchester United fans knew that, they didn't get enough high blood pressure like they've been getting this season. The Pre-season was clear that they'll be having a very tough season, it was difficult for some new players and old players in the club. It's said that they be suffering from the high intensity wanted by Erik Ten Hag and that broke players down. I do think that's the main issues with Jadon Sancho, taking lots of funds but can show working with his skills and pace on the pitch.

A team should never be underrated though, but Galatasaray should not be a threat to Manchester United if they had a good season from the Premier League. How well you play in the Premier League reflects on the Champions League games too.

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November 22, 2023, 01:22:20 PM
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At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
Indeed, in group F now the atmosphere is simply tense.
Milan will not have an easy game and perhaps they will be defeated by Borussia and this will be a shift to last position and perhaps they will remain penultimate in the group. A miracle is needed for Milan fans.
The remaining two matches in the UCL will be life and death matches for the clubs in Group F, after four matches, none of them managed to secure a ticket to the round of 16. The difference in points between the four clubs is also very thin, Newcastle, who is in the bottom position, still has a chance of qualifying for the next round.

Milan who host Dortmund in the 5th game, must take advantage of the home game to open up their opportunities, victory is a price that cannot be negotiated if you want to maintain your chances. Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle will have two tough matches, they have to avoid the slightest mistakes in order to get a place to play in the next round.

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November 22, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
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A team should never be underrated though, but Galatasaray should not be a threat to Manchester United if they had a good season from the Premier League. How well you play in the Premier League reflects on the Champions League games too.

Galatasaray also cannot be underestimated, and it seems to me that in the state in which Manchester United is now there is a danger of losing to Manchester United. Since the Red Devils are not in the best shape right now, the same cannot be said about Galatasaray. Therefore, there is still a risk of loss.
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November 22, 2023, 01:32:13 PM
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Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
Clubs keeps fighting to transform to a better form. We know how vulnerable Manchester United can be this season, losing against elite teams and firmly holding their ground against average clubs. Manchester united might not be in their best form but they're actually having good scores from league games but the only place they've failed is the UEFA Champions League. Erik Ten Hag have tried to lift the club to the specialised top positions. Manchester United faces Galatasaray next in UEFA CL, can the Red Devils be able to recover lost points against their rivals this season.

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