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November 22, 2023, 06:44:40 PM
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Looking at Manchester United performance from their previous game it seems their upcoming game will be difficult for them,  and I feel with the current situation of performance of Manchester United they  won't be going far in the Champions league.  Manchester United focus right now is to be able to win their games in premier league to meet up with a better position. I'm not sure about Manchester United with their champions league game coming up, and with this challenge I think they will concentrate on their Premier league more because this is more important to them .
Their performance total in the UCL has really been a mess, the only impressive performance they did had that I can consider fair enough was against Bayern Munich after which they have been doing below expectations, the most recent they played against Copenhagen was really disheartening to me

It's obvious they almost have no place in the champions league maybe they will be relegated to the Europa but if not they would possibly not make bit bas the knock out of they are too fortunate enough to get pass the group stage probably by a miracle, ten hag will have to shift his focus more to the premier league and see how much he could achieve from it, most likely finishing to so he could qualify for the UCL next season should be his target because I don't possible see him lifting the premier league trophy.

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November 22, 2023, 06:57:58 PM
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Looking at Manchester United performance from their previous game it seems their upcoming game will be difficult for them,  and I feel with the current situation of performance of Manchester United they  won't be going far in the Champions league.  Manchester United focus right now is to be able to win their games in premier league to meet up with a better position. I'm not sure about Manchester United with their champions league game coming up, and with this challenge I think they will concentrate on their Premier league more because this is more important to them .
Yeah of course it will surely be difficult for them because there performance is not really encouraging especially on this champions league because there overall performance is nothing to write home about, so perhaps champions league this season is beyond there reach, but however if they really work on there team and possibly change there coach and hire more quality coach I believe that next season they will impressively surprise everybody with there performance but if they come back next season with the same pattern is obvious that they will repeat there performance this season.

Because there performance this season has gotten to the extent that they have no hope on wining any trophy this season even the premier they normally compete they are far below premier league table.

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November 22, 2023, 06:59:15 PM
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I think this is right. Manchester United, if for some lucky reason they qualify for the next round in the Champions League, would be smashed there. I think they wouldn't even remain in the Europa League very long. This team is not in shape for any competition outside the Premier League and even there it seems to not be a good enough level for them to achieve anything meaningful this season.
It seems impossible if Manchester United manages to win the remaining two matches because this match is quite tough. Manchester United seems to be having difficulty facing competitors in Group A. How could it not be that so far Manchester United has only been able to get 3 points and they are at the bottom of the standings, only a miracle can do it bringing this club to qualify for the round of 16, to be in third place to appear in the European league also seems difficult for Manchester United. In my opinion, the opportunity to enter the European league is Copenhagen but if Manchester City is able to perform amazingly to at least get a draw in two matches Later, at least Manchester United will be in third placed.
But looking at Copenhagen performance in the next two match, if Copenhagen is unable to win, Manchester United will occupy that position.

Currently, I'm not very confident that Manchester United can win any of the two remaining matches. This uncertainty extends to their chances of qualifying for the Europa League, given their poor performance. The team's current form raises doubts about their ability to secure victories in the upcoming games. However, if Manchester United manages to improve before the remaining matches and luck is on their side, it's conceivable that they could win.Yet, given their recent performances, predicting whether they will be fortunate enough to win the remaining group match is challenging. The team faces an uphill battle to reverse their fortunes, and success hinges on a combination of enhanced performance and favorable circumstances in the upcoming games.

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November 22, 2023, 07:05:36 PM
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Actually, if for example Milan did not lose many of its key players due to injury, then I think Milan would still have a chance to qualify for the last 16. Because anyway, in the remaining matches Milan will only play against Dortmund and against Newcastle but unfortunately, because at this moment Milan lost many of its key players due to injury then such cases will have a bad impact on Milan current performance. Also, Milan is also getting bad results in Serie A as its position is slowly falling but yes, hopefully Milan can still play well at least to be able to finish in third place in this group F.

Yes Milan are in a tough spot but they really can still defeat Dortmund with proper game plan. CL games are always the surprising ones and so I am really not calling them off the books. It's Milan's home and the atmosphere there is really different. A proper gameplan for a match that matters the most can really change things. Pioli is a smart manager and I think he will set something out of usual for this match in order to turn the chances a bit into their favour. Dortmund also sometimes slips in easy matches so Milan still has some chance.
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November 22, 2023, 07:08:13 PM
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A team should never be underrated though, but Galatasaray should not be a threat to Manchester United if they had a good season from the Premier League. How well you play in the Premier League reflects on the Champions League games too.
Galatasaray also cannot be underestimated, and it seems to me that in the state in which Manchester United is now there is a danger of losing to Manchester United. Since the Red Devils are not in the best shape right now, the same cannot be said about Galatasaray. Therefore, there is still a risk of loss.

Anything can happen in this match, and we must remember that Manchester United were beaten by Galatasaray at Old Trafford. Based on bookies data, both teams have almost the same odds for a 1X2 bet. Which is where Galatasaray has @2.5, while on the other hand Manchester United has @2.65.

My question is, will you bet on this match? I didn't, I was already disappointed with Manchester United's performance when they faced Copenhagen, because of Copenhagen's epic comeback, I lost quite a lot there. So I don't want to take big risks anymore because there are still other matches that are easier to analyze.

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November 22, 2023, 07:08:36 PM
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I think this is right. Manchester United, if for some lucky reason they qualify for the next round in the Champions League, would be smashed there. I think they wouldn't even remain in the Europa League very long. This team is not in shape for any competition outside the Premier League and even there it seems to not be a good enough level for them to achieve anything meaningful this season.
It seems impossible if Manchester United manages to win the remaining two matches because this match is quite tough. Manchester United seems to be having difficulty facing competitors in Group A. How could it not be that so far Manchester United has only been able to get 3 points and they are at the bottom of the standings, only a miracle can do it bringing this club to qualify for the round of 16, to be in third place to appear in the European league also seems difficult for Manchester United. In my opinion, the opportunity to enter the European league is Copenhagen but if Manchester City is able to perform amazingly to at least get a draw in two matches Later, at least Manchester United will be in third placed.
But looking at Copenhagen performance in the next two match, if Copenhagen is unable to win, Manchester United will occupy that position.

The chances are so small that I don't think we will see Manchester United in the next round of the Champions League. Winning against Galatasaray would be possible if Manchester United was playing at their potential peak performance, but it looks like they are instead playing at their potential negative peak performance. They are doing so many things wrong during the game and they never seal the deal when they get the opportunities. Galatasaray has a lot of power at home and this is not the perfect timing for a weakened Manchester United to need a win against them. The last game against Bayern Munich won't be the light at the end of the tunnel that they were hoping for.
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November 22, 2023, 07:14:27 PM
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I think this is right. Manchester United, if for some lucky reason they qualify for the next round in the Champions League, would be smashed there. I think they wouldn't even remain in the Europa League very long. This team is not in shape for any competition outside the Premier League and even there it seems to not be a good enough level for them to achieve anything meaningful this season.
It seems impossible if Manchester United manages to win the remaining two matches because this match is quite tough. Manchester United seems to be having difficulty facing competitors in Group A. How could it not be that so far Manchester United has only been able to get 3 points and they are at the bottom of the standings, only a miracle can do it bringing this club to qualify for the round of 16, to be in third place to appear in the European league also seems difficult for Manchester United. In my opinion, the opportunity to enter the European league is Copenhagen but if Manchester City is able to perform amazingly to at least get a draw in two matches Later, at least Manchester United will be in third placed.
But looking at Copenhagen performance in the next two match, if Copenhagen is unable to win, Manchester United will occupy that position.
Looking at Manchester United performance from their previous game it seems their upcoming game will be difficult for them,  and I feel with the current situation of performance of Manchester United they  won't be going far in the Champions league.  Manchester United focus right now is to be able to win their games in premier league to meet up with a better position. I'm not sure about Manchester United with their champions league game coming up, and with this challenge I think they will concentrate on their Premier league more because this is more important to them .
You can not just conclude for the club base on their previous performance, do you know that when a football club loses a match with their opponent or counterpart they doesn't like to lose their next match, so Manchester United is trying their best as they can performance, in a team, the effective performance of a club starts from the featuring of the players and its dependable by the coach and its team members, it might be that they have gone to their play drawing boards to ensure that they have figured out were their loopholes is coming from, so don't just conclude or judge them that maybe they will not go far in the champions league, a performance of a team can be changed at any moment of time.

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November 22, 2023, 07:25:54 PM
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You can not just conclude for the club base on their previous performance, do you know that when a football club loses a match with their opponent or counterpart they doesn't like to lose their next match, so Manchester United is trying their best as they can performance, in a team, the effective performance of a club starts from the featuring of the players and its dependable by the coach and its team members, it might be that they have gone to their play drawing boards to ensure that they have figured out were their loopholes is coming from, so don't just conclude or judge them that maybe they will not go far in the champions league, a performance of a team can be changed at any moment of time.

The Red Devils fans have been frustrated and disappointed with the current performance of the club, raising their hope and at the end of the day, there's absolutely nothing to settle on for. Precisely, the fans are already acquainted with the system and will do anything within their position to ensure there's strong hope for upcoming wonderful performances. Manchester united position in UEFA Champions League is compromised because there are two games left for the Red Devils to play this season. Manchester united might not be in their best form but they're really trying to buckle up and catch up important position this season.

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November 22, 2023, 07:27:37 PM
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Even though Real Madrid is certain to qualify for the round of 16 by getting 12 points from 4 matches, it doesn't seem like that will make them happy and it looks like they want to sweep all 6 matches with perfect points. However, the loss of several players who suffered injuries during the international break, such as Vinicius and Camavinga, will make their attack line not as strong this time. But that won't be a problem because they still have good replacement players for that.

Well, with this Real Madrid will lose a little of its strength and it looks like Napoli, who will be their next opponent, will have a slight advantage, especially since Napoli needs one more win to lock up second place. However, if Napoli still fails with their new coach against Real Madrid, then they will have to determine the result in the final match against Braga, who are also currently fighting with Napoli for second place.

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November 22, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
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Yeah Milan certainly seems to be in a lot of trouble right now with injuries. Stefano Pioli has very limited options right now for the upcoming CL match and is to manage the team for the Serie A and CL match both. It is a very difficult situation for Ac milan right now and certainly Dortmund has the upper hand right now. Still it's AC Milan and I have seen they have come out strong in such matches sometimes even though they have very limited options on the team. So I would say Dortmund are the favourites but AC Milan are also not completely off the books.
When Milan was able to overcome PSG's resistance some time ago, I think there was optimism about them when they faced Dortmund. Milan is playing at home and they should play with high confidence and motivation, but the injury problems experienced by the team can certainly affect performance.

This match is difficult to predict even though Milan seems to be the favorite to win based on the probability. Dortmund will certainly try their best to maintain their consistent run to lead the group, but I don't give them much confidence in beating Milan easily. In my opinion, Milan's chance of winning over Dortmund is 60:40, meaning Milan is the favorite, although not completely.

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November 22, 2023, 07:39:30 PM
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I think this is right. Manchester United, if for some lucky reason they qualify for the next round in the Champions League, would be smashed there. I think they wouldn't even remain in the Europa League very long. This team is not in shape for any competition outside the Premier League and even there it seems to not be a good enough level for them to achieve anything meaningful this season.
Currently, I'm not very confident that Manchester United can win any of the two remaining matches. This uncertainty extends to their chances of qualifying for the Europa League, given their poor performance. The team's current form raises doubts about their ability to secure victories in the upcoming games. However, if Manchester United manages to improve before the remaining matches and luck is on their side, it's conceivable that they could win.Yet, given their recent performances, predicting whether they will be fortunate enough to win the remaining group match is challenging. The team faces an uphill battle to reverse their fortunes, and success hinges on a combination of enhanced performance and favorable circumstances in the upcoming games.

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray in their next match, but Bayern Munich will not want to lose any of their group stage matches because it has been a long time since Bayern Munich has lost matches in the group stage and they will like to keep the record. Erik tan hag needs to make a good plan before they face Bayern Munich because the match he won't be easy for Manchester to defeat them.

I am confident that it will be difficult for Galatasaray to defeat Manchester United this time around, because they need the match to qualify for the next round of the Champions League and if they defeat Galatasaray, Bayern Munich will come to Old Trafford and Manchester United are good at home, the fans will motivate them and he can lead Manchester United to victory but it will not be an easy game for them, I issue Manchester United players are on their feet ahead of the match against Bayern Munich, because Bayern is a very strong club with many excellent players who can contribute significantly on the field.

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November 22, 2023, 07:51:41 PM
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As far as the outcome of this game is concerned, I don't have any strong preferences, as long as Dortmund comes out on top, which would be satisfactory for me. Due to injuries, AC Milan has unfortunately lost some key players, creating a golden opportunity for Dortmund to secure a spot in the top 16.
Terzic needs to use a lot of benefits owned by dortmund due to the crisis faced by acmilan. Milan is in a very big disadvantage. Missing leao will become the main problem for this club.

Dortmund is in need of replicating the same score as the match against Newcastle in order to achieve their objective. A narrow victory would be more than adequate to secure the club's progression to the next stage.

Gogo dortmund! You can destroy acmilan!

Yeah Milan certainly seems to be in a lot of trouble right now with injuries. Stefano Pioli has very limited options right now for the upcoming CL match and is to manage the team for the Serie A and CL match both. It is a very difficult situation for Ac milan right now and certainly Dortmund has the upper hand right now. Still it's AC Milan and I have seen they have come out strong in such matches sometimes even though they have very limited options on the team. So I would say Dortmund are the favourites but AC Milan are also not completely off the books.

Despite the fact that Milan has a lot of injury worries I still don't think  Dortmund has the upper hand in this game because Milan still have very good players to fill in the vacant positions and defensively Milan is far better than Dortmund, though Dortmund have fantastic attacking players upfront but I still think the Milan defence can handle that and I also trust Milan's coach to engage some tactical expertise to be able to contain the German side.

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At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
This is very good for Dortmund because with Milan not benefiting, Dortmund chances are now more optimistic than before. It would not be surprising that Milan had to face a quite disappointing season, stagnant at domestic level and unable to reduce the points from Juventus. PSG will also not have an easy time facing Newcastle, in their last meeting Newcastle really knew the club weak points. Strengthening the rear defense so that Mbappe does not move freely has become a top priority. PSG never changed their tactics and continued to rely on attacks from Mbappe side. Newcastle, the club, was very adamant about not being nervous early and while the opportunity was still open, Eddie Howe's troops had to use all their abilities.
To be fair that group was terrible for everyone involved, it s not really a shock that one of the good teams would be fourth in that group, we all know that whoever is the fourth of that group will be a team that will not deserve to be fourth, in any group this groups fourth will be able to do wonders. It's fine, if it is Milan then it is Milan, if it is Dortmund then it is dortmund, if it is Newcastle then it is newcastle.

I think PSG is the only one who has no excuse because they have spent way too much compared to other teams, but the other three must have one fourth in them and that will be sad but the reality of it. Sometimes you have a bad draw, and you just have to accept your faith and move on, next season is another season you can try again.

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Yeah Milan certainly seems to be in a lot of trouble right now with injuries. Stefano Pioli has very limited options right now for the upcoming CL match and is to manage the team for the Serie A and CL match both. It is a very difficult situation for Ac milan right now and certainly Dortmund has the upper hand right now. Still it's AC Milan and I have seen they have come out strong in such matches sometimes even though they have very limited options on the team. So I would say Dortmund are the favourites but AC Milan are also not completely off the books.

Despite the fact that Milan has a lot of injury worries I still don't think  Dortmund has the upper hand in this game because Milan still have very good players to fill in the vacant positions and defensively Milan is far better than Dortmund, though Dortmund have fantastic attacking players upfront but I still think the Milan defence can handle that and I also trust Milan's coach to engage some tactical expertise to be able to contain the German side.
Milan and Dortmund both have injured players, in this case Pioli squad is a little luckier because they will play in front of their own supporters at the San Siro. In the first leg, the two played a goalless draw. For this second meeting, I consider the match to be a round of determining the fate of Milan. Statistically, Milan defense line is slightly better than Dortmund, but this time their front line should also perform optimally by scoring goals. however, in reality Pioli reportedly lost Rafael Leao due to injury, he is one of his important players on the front line. The fight for two slots in group F is very difficult to predict, especially if Newcastle can pull off a surprise in the match versus PSG.

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Even though Real Madrid is certain to qualify for the round of 16 by getting 12 points from 4 matches, it doesn't seem like that will make them happy and it looks like they want to sweep all 6 matches with perfect points. However, the loss of several players who suffered injuries during the international break, such as Vinicius and Camavinga, will make their attack line not as strong this time. But that won't be a problem because they still have good replacement players for that.

Well, with this Real Madrid will lose a little of its strength and it looks like Napoli, who will be their next opponent, will have a slight advantage, especially since Napoli needs one more win to lock up second place. However, if Napoli still fails with their new coach against Real Madrid, then they will have to determine the result in the final match against Braga, who are also currently fighting with Napoli for second place.
Because Real Madrid lose some key players due to injury, it is a good opportunity for Napoli to win them and get more hope of qualifying, but Napoli is not also in a good shape due to Osimhen's injury and they recently change new manager which have made their matches unpredictable. Although, even without winning against Real Madrid, Napoli still have a chance to be in the Champions League because Sporting Braga and Union Berlin will not take it lively with each other as they are both fighting for Europa League spot.

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November 22, 2023, 08:28:30 PM
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Are we now trying to put our whole trust on his last season’s performance?? Then I think the saying Pas Glory comes alive. If you say his key player’s aren’t active, I can point at least 2 matches where ETH had his complete squad yet still lost the match this season, we should mot try to paint black white because we want to help him keep his job, ETH is losing his dressing room and that’s one of the first signs of many that shows you’re a poor coach.

 Any team currently is a threat to this Manchester United side no matter how poor you play because this Manchester United is in shambles, last season I think they were saved by majorly individual performances and that is what we aren’t seeing this season, ETH could be slowly losing his job, i feel If he gets knocked out of the UCL, I think he’ll be given few matches before being showed the EXIT door at (The Theatre of Dreams).

Do well to point out them game he had all of them important players of the squad. What are the signs he's lost control of the dressing room? I'll need you to school my unfumigated ass tonight! Lol!
Sorry, Erik Ten Hag wouldn't be sacked, he has the full support of the club. In terms of comparison ( which I find irksome ) Erik Ten Hag is doing a better job than what Graham Potter saw. Why's it difficult for you to just Believe? Manchester United will definitely arise and shine.

If Onana is out peng, they have second choice goalie for that. Having Luke Shaw back makes sense he'll definitely make the lineup and pair with Harry Maguire or Victor Lindelof z they've both paired them together. I just can't recall the game.

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At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
AC Milan is a team full of experience in the Champions League which allows them to make a comeback by winning 2 wins in the remaining two matches. I think they will try to take advantage of their chances to qualify for the round of 16. When AC Milan was able to beat Psg, I was very confident that Pioli men would perform impressively in the two second leg matches. For this reason, AC Milan must try their best to get 3 points. Yes, bad news hit them where several important players in their squad had to be absent when AC Milan faced Dortmund.

I think Giroud will be the main focus for AC Milan in the match against Dortmund because two players as his tandem on the front line were absent due to injury. Like Pulisic and Leoa, both of whom will miss this important match due to injury. However, a big advantage could be in favor of Ac milan because they are playing at home where they can focus on playing better to be able to secure 3 points.

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The major surprise for me in this group stages has been Benfica. They sit bottom of the group after losing all their four games and are already out of contention for a round-of-16 slot and will need a huge turn around to make it to the Europa league.

This is a stark difference from their last season campaign where they topped the group with PSG coming second and went on to reach the quarter finals, only to be knocked out by eventual finalist in Inter Milan. Somehow their league performance have not dipped at all and they sit tup of the liga Portugal.

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Yes Milan are in a tough spot but they really can still defeat Dortmund with proper game plan. CL games are always the surprising ones and so I am really not calling them off the books. It's Milan's home and the atmosphere there is really different. A proper gameplan for a match that matters the most can really change things. Pioli is a smart manager and I think he will set something out of usual for this match in order to turn the chances a bit into their favour. Dortmund also sometimes slips in easy matches so Milan still has some chance.

well, I assume the opposite of what you said. I am quite sure that Terzic has studied the style and tactical patterns and system that Pioli will apply in the fifth matchday meeting. because this match will be played at the San Siro, and the pattern that AC Milan will play is easy to guess. I'm quite sure that Milan will take the initiative to play aggressively when the first half whistle sounds. So far, we have not been able to determine the composition of the players for these two teams. However, it seems that the pattern that Pioli will use has already been created. there are only two in my scenario, ideally Pioli would use a 4-2-3-1 pattern. or, 4-3-3. depending on the tactics they will apply. But I still can't be sure what system and strategy they will implement.

Well, for me, this is where Terzic's real work is. My question is whether Terzic will keep the ball in the middle. I mean, it doesn't provide space for AC Milan players to control the ball. Or, Dortmund will let it go and then counterattack. In fact, there are various scenarios, the point is that Dotmund should not be provoked by AC Milan's style of play. Thus, there are two possibilities for me temporarily. If the result is a draw, it means Dortmund will win the match on the fifth matchday. Anyway, this is just my assumption and speculation for now. Moreover, we haven't received the latest information regarding these two teams. Let's just wait, before this match is held.

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November 22, 2023, 09:03:07 PM
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The major surprise for me in this group stages has been Benfica. They sit bottom of the group after losing all their four games and are already out of contention for a round-of-16 slot and will need a huge turn around to make it to the Europa league.

This is a stark difference from their last season campaign where they topped the group with PSG coming second and went on to reach the quarter finals, only to be knocked out by eventual finalist in Inter Milan. Somehow their league performance have not dipped at all and they sit tup of the liga Portugal.

- Jay -
While other teams have collected points through several matches, that has not happened to Benfica and they have failed to get a single point so far. This is a very bitter season for Benfica considering that they are one of the team candidates who could possibly qualify for the next play-off round. It didn't go well for Benfica and their performance did take a turn from what they did in the local competition. There is no real chance for Benfica and it looks like they will have to forget about the Champions League competition for a moment this season.
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