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November 24, 2023, 05:55:45 PM
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Lets see how Newcastle come back from this international break, they are a very good team, the issue they have this last times were they are short on players so they started to feel really tired, and this impact so much in their performance, with this break some players can rest so lets see if they can turn the tide.
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November 24, 2023, 05:59:28 PM
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All teams have the same chance although if you look at their chance percentages sequentially it is Dortmound, PSG, Milan and Newcastle.
Yeah, i think this is the only way you can look at it for now, at least until the penultimate game is played this Tuesday. This group is so hard to call and i think everyone's going to agree with that. Newcastle would be kicking themselves because they were once on top of this group, but then they lost twice in a row to Dortmund, which pushed them to rock bottom on the table. If i am to predict, i'd say Dortmund would qualify, they are just one win away from qualification, and i think they'd get that win against Milan on Tuesday, i cannot guess the other team that would join them in the RO16, and TBH all the other 3 teams have nearly equal chances to make it.

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November 24, 2023, 06:10:15 PM
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Lets see how Newcastle come back from this international break, they are a very good team, the issue they have this last times were they are short on players so they started to feel really tired, and this impact so much in their performance, with this break some players can rest so lets see if they can turn the tide.
It is possible that if Newcastle succeeds in improving its performance, perhaps the runner-up position will be very realistic to obtain. But overall I think the Magpies' strength is still difficult to compete in the Champions League, Eddy Howe's troops on average still don't have a good enough mentality to be at the highest level. Realistically I see Newcastle will only be able to compete for 3rd place to enter the Europa League play-off zone. Maybe with strength like that, Newcastle is better suited to compete further in the second caste competition.

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November 24, 2023, 06:14:27 PM
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Looking forward to the clash at the Parc de Princes between PSG and Newcastle.
The PSG fans will definitely be coming in with a lot of energy to spur the team to success and will have at the back of their mind the experience their team went through at the away fixture.

Both teams are playing tough matches this weekend, against Monaco and Chelsea and will have to commit energy to that before refocusing to the Champions league, PSG have the benefit of playing a day earlier, we will see if that plays a role in Tuesday's fixture.

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November 24, 2023, 06:27:25 PM
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All teams have the same chance although if you look at their chance percentages sequentially it is Dortmound, PSG, Milan and Newcastle.
Yeah, i think this is the only way you can look at it for now, at least until the penultimate game is played this Tuesday. This group is so hard to call and i think everyone's going to agree with that. Newcastle would be kicking themselves because they were once on top of this group, but then they lost twice in a row to Dortmund, which pushed them to rock bottom on the table. If i am to predict, i'd say Dortmund would qualify, they are just one win away from qualification, and i think they'd get that win against Milan on Tuesday, i cannot guess the other team that would join them in the RO16, and TBH all the other 3 teams have nearly equal chances to make it.

I also think like that, that Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle have the same chance to qualify, because their points are also still close together. But, because Milan got a lot of key players injured and also, it seems that Newcastle do not have stable results at this moment. So yes, with these factors then, because Dortmund and PSG are currently in positions 1 and 2 in the standings, then it looks like Dortmund and PSG will maximize this moment as well as possible to stay in that position. Indeed, I also think anything can still happen and I realize that, but I also consider from their results and stability so far also in their respective local leagues that it seems that it will still be difficult for Milan and Newcastle to be able to qualify for the round of 16.

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November 24, 2023, 06:30:08 PM
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Lets see how Newcastle come back from this international break, they are a very good team, the issue they have this last times were they are short on players so they started to feel really tired, and this impact so much in their performance, with this break some players can rest so lets see if they can turn the tide.
Newcastle is in last place in group F and they have to beat PSG and Milan if they want to qualify. It's not an easy matter but they will try as much as possible to secure a ticket to the round of 16 this season after being absent from the Champions League for so long. I see it as a team that is ready to penetrate this group stage and it remains to be seen whether everything goes according to Newcastle's expectations or whether they have already lost against PSG.
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November 24, 2023, 06:46:31 PM
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As a result of defeats to Newcastle and Milan, PSG had to fight hard if they wanted to qualify for the round of 16. Losing six points was not expected by its supporters, but PSG had to accept the consequences of its inconsistent performance. Now PSG only has two matches remaining to determine their fate in the UCL, those who will host Newcastle at the Parc des Princes stadium must take advantage of this match to increase their number of points. The final match in the group stage will be tougher for PSG when playing at Dortmund's headquarters. The match must be completed perfectly to ensure a ticket to the round of 16.

Dortmund who have the same goal as PSG, will never waste this opportunity, the home match will be a place for them to rejoice in their success in qualifying for the next round. There is still a lot of drama that will happen in group F, whoever will qualify will be the best club in group F, so far it is not certain who will qualify because all four teams still have the same chance.
PSG now have to be relentless in their efforts to securing a win in their last two UCL faceoffs. They need these wins to be certain about their qualification, for Dortmund their home chance to seal their victory will be taken so dearly, both teams have good chances of qualifying, and Ac Milan and Newcastle still has a chance to meet up the pace and also qualify to the knock out stage.
 
 PSG and Dortmund are certainly the two teams of the four that are in their toppest form currently, Newcastle on their part are suffering some injury set backs so their possibility of scaling through to the next round isn't so certain, for Ac Milan, we have to see them give in their best because the struggle at this point won't be made so easy for them, all teams will pave solutions and measures to be at their highest level of performance, the final result from the group stage games is so much anticipated.
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November 24, 2023, 06:47:17 PM
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Previously Newcastle were able to beat PSG at home now PSG who will host Newcastle will be very heavy they will definitely take revenge from the defeat in the first leg and the second leg will be to secure points if PSG wins, on the other hand Newcastle must play hard because if they lose then the opportunity will be further away to qualify.

It also depends on whether Milan are able to beat Dortmund at home? If YES then the chances of qualifying are likely Milan, it's just that there are still two matches left so the rest of the matches must be able to snatch points in any match about the group will be very tight.
It should also be taken into consideration that Newcastle had a great day when they defeated PSG. It was for a very long time during the game that Newcastle didn't have that many chances, but the ones they had also resulted in goals. It isn't that easy every game and beating PSG at home is a totally different story. I think PSG will take the three points here and if Milan does not win, PSG is qualified for the knockout rounds as PSG has the upper hand because of more goals scored in the two games against Milan.
At that time the entire Newcastle squad was excellent but things are different now we still don't know how recovered some of their main players are, maybe we will see the match against Chelsea when they have started to appear there is a possibility that against PSG the players have recovered then it will at least add strength to Newcastle in the away match.

Yep maybe I will think the same that PSG can take 3 points with their current advantage of playing at home, it is also the favorite team in this match so PSG's winning ratio may be much greater, but sometimes surprises are always at the end of the match.

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November 24, 2023, 06:47:33 PM
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How the teams will perform after the international break is a bit difficult to predict. But the PSG team is in pretty good shape right now. Most of the players in the squad are fit and have adapted well to Luis Enrique's match tactics. I am looking forward to watching PSG vs Monaco in Ligue 1. If PSG can play well in this match then I think they will also win the home match against Newcastle. It is a do or die match for PSG as well. PSG may not have the chance to qualify for the round of 16 if they fail to win this match. PSG need to get 3 points in this match.
PSG match against Monaco in Ligue 1 will be valuable capital before meeting Newcastle. It would be very embarrassing if they lost for the second time to Newcastle, especially in front of their own supporters. I think it is true that it is very difficult to predict the final result of the match after yesterday break, we can only see the scenario for PSG to qualify for the round of 16.

In fact, it's not just PSG who are facing a tough match in this week, Newcastle will also face a strong team in the EPL against Chelsea, so both of them are forced to field the best squad without any players being rested. I think armed with the experience that Enrique has, he can take his squad through this challenge, yes through the UCL group phase.

On paper PSG should be able to create a points gap in the group F standings, considering that they have a fairly expensive squad at the moment. however the squad reshuffle that occurred in the previous transfer window meant that Enrique did not have much time to make preparations according to his wishes. the effect is that currently they are having difficulty because they still have to face a life and death battle.

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November 24, 2023, 06:55:06 PM
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Lets see how Newcastle come back from this international break, they are a very good team, the issue they have this last times were they are short on players so they started to feel really tired, and this impact so much in their performance, with this break some players can rest so lets see if they can turn the tide.
All the teams first game will going to be a tough one because, their blood of international training is still in their blood and it will make many players to improve for their coach to see some things new in their system. Newcastle will play well both champions league games and premier league game to encourage their coach because they have what it takes to take a victory from Chelsea game because, they will not allow Chelsea to use all those tactics they use to beat some big teams in this season to beat them easily to increase their points than to use their international tactics to make the game difficult for them to win.

Newcastle will do well in this game, if their coach can release all those young players in the bench to test their ability because anything can happen in the football game that will make the players people think they cannot play well to be the players that will score goals to help the team to achieve victory.

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November 24, 2023, 07:01:19 PM
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How the teams will perform after the international break is a bit difficult to predict. But the PSG team is in pretty good shape right now. Most of the players in the squad are fit and have adapted well to Luis Enrique's match tactics. I am looking forward to watching PSG vs Monaco in Ligue 1. If PSG can play well in this match then I think they will also win the home match against Newcastle. It is a do or die match for PSG as well. PSG may not have the chance to qualify for the round of 16 if they fail to win this match. PSG need to get 3 points in this match.
Since PSG is playing at home, then I think they can really be expected to win 3 points today. Luis Enrique has found a way to lift his team's fighting spirit after being doubted at the start of the season. The adaptation process for several new players is very good and according to plan, but this also goes hand in hand with Luis Enrique's adaptation in Ligue 1.

PSG plays Monaco at home, as well as against Newcastle. I think this is an opportunity for PSG and their coach to get a home win despite the opponent's good performance. You are right, if PSG wins the match against Monaco then they will have good morale to win the match against Newcastle in the Champions League.

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November 24, 2023, 07:02:10 PM
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As Manchester United stands now, the team won't even qualify for the Europa League. The team is at the last position in the points table. Manchester United team failed to win the away match against Galatasaray. It is highly unlikely that they will win the next match against Galatasaray. On the other hand, they will play against the mighty Bayern Munich in the last match. Manchester United will not win this match either. Bayern Munich will top the group or its table. And in second place will be Galatasaray. Copenhagen is more likely to be in third place. This team is playing very well. Manchester United should now fully focus on the Premier League and try to stabilize their performance.
If Manchester United fails to qualify from the group phase and cannot even get third place in group A, of course that is very disappointing and also quite embarrassing for a team like Manchester United because in that group they are predicted to qualify with Bayern Munich because of course it will be different if they are in a difficult group like group F.
However, my prediction is that if Manchester United don't make it through the group phase, at least they will get third place to play in the European League playoffs, and if it is true that they fail then Erik Ten Hag's fate will be very threatened at that club, there is a big chance that Ten Hag will get fired and ultimately Manchester United, like several seasons ago, continued the competition with a temporary coach before finally choosing a new coach.
There is a real possibility that United could be fully gone, they could finish the group fourth place as well. They are going to play against Galatasaray, who they lost to before at their home game, so it wouldn't be the most shocking thing in the world to lose to them at away game too, and they are going to play Bayern as well, which they could definitely lose too.

That is a possibility and could happen, Galatasaray will play both, and if they win United and tie Copenhagen, and Copenhagen loses to Bayern and ties Galatasaray, that means United will be fourth and gone. I am not saying this will happen, there is of course still a chance that they could go up, but that doesn't mean that they may not as well, there is a very real possibility that they could be fourth and gone, and that's not good for them at all.

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November 24, 2023, 07:21:58 PM
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I think that not only the board but also the supporters are contented with Newcastle's work in the Champions League in general. I mean that of course Newcastle were quite inconsistent in the Dortmund matches. But still they are only 3 points away from the leader while there are still 2 more matches waiting to be completed in the group.

Newcastle don't have an amazing squad now. Despite being one of the richest teams in Europe they aren't able to build a dream team yet. But even with what they have in their hands they are doing pretty good job here and in the EPL both.

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November 24, 2023, 07:57:33 PM
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Group F has been helling from the very first week the Champions League resumed,  No one has confidently predicted the outcome of who win and goes ahead of the rest clubs in that group. Some of the groups are also lively, the group with Barcelona and Arsenal.
The return of Arsenal has not gone as planned, they are gradually facing every game as they come, a win will verify Arsenal involving in the next stage.

Newcastle will have to win twice games to qualify otherwise they will be out of the tournament,  Same for Ac Milan. They want to save the job of their coach? Then qualification is important. Consistency will take Psg and Dortmund higher.
You are right group F is one of the toughest group on this champions League unlike other minor group that is comprises of clubs that are not much strong, but however just like you said this group F can hardly be predicted because all the club are almost equal in times of performance but the only difference there is that Borussia Dortmund and PSG are more experienced club in times of playing champions League because they have a lot of history on champions League while Newcastle United mostly performed only on premier league match so champions League seem to be a bit difficult for them.

However Newcastle United seem more to be on a losing side of there group because for them to qualify they need to win there two straight matches and considering that the other clubs seem more experienced than them it will surely make there chances of qualifying very difficult or impossible for them.
After the first game in this group between PSG and Newcastle, everybody thought they were going to qualify easily because they had a very good performance against PSG who we all know to be one of the biggest teams in Europe.But they later dropped form to the extent of being at the bottom of the table,and everyone is seeing them as the side that will be eliminated from the group stage,while Dortmund that I thought were not going to qualify from that group are currently topping it.It is true that Newcastle's performance dropped rapidly because they haven't been doing well in the premier league too,maybe because they are involved in so many competition,and they use almost thesame players in all those games.However,I don't see them qualifying from this group.

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November 24, 2023, 08:32:45 PM
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Looking forward to the clash at the Parc de Princes between PSG and Newcastle.
The PSG fans will definitely be coming in with a lot of energy to spur the team to success and will have at the back of their mind the experience their team went through at the away fixture.

Both teams are playing tough matches this weekend, against Monaco and Chelsea and will have to commit energy to that before refocusing to the Champions league, PSG have the benefit of playing a day earlier, we will see if that plays a role in Tuesday's fixture.

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PSG's probability is higher than Newcastle in the fifth matchday match. both based on betting odds, and as the home team. apart from that, if we refer to their performance in their respective domestic leagues. In the first meeting, for me it was purely Enrique's mistake when developing his tactics and strategy.
Currently, PSG is playing their match against Monaco and three points is the result they must get. plus, motivating when Paris Saint Germain hosts Newcastle in the fifth matchday meeting of the Champions League group phase.

In fact, this match will be a real challenge for Newcastle as the away team, they will try to go all out to get full points at the Parc des Princess. not an easy match, especially technically and tactically, I think PSG is much better. If Newcastle fails, it means they will be eliminated in this group phase. in the other match in the Group E phase, it will be no less exciting and interesting. Dortmund and AC Milan will both be fighting each other to win in order to determine their chances of progressing to the next phase.

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November 24, 2023, 08:57:23 PM
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Despite the fact that Milan has a lot of injury worries I still don't think  Dortmund has the upper hand in this game because Milan still have very good players to fill in the vacant positions and defensively Milan is far better than Dortmund, though Dortmund have fantastic attacking players upfront but I still think the Milan defence can handle that and I also trust Milan's coach to engage some tactical expertise to be able to contain the German side.
Actually, the injury problem in AC Milan is mostly experienced by the defenders. There are 4 injured defenders but it won't be a serious because there are enough defenders for the upcoming match. AC Milan still has Fikayo Tomori, Simon Kjaer, Malick Thiaw, Theo Hernández, and Alessandro Florenzi. These players will be strong enough to put on the defense line of AC Milan against Dortmund. Davide Calabria is also likely to recover before the match. So, there will be no serious problem for AC Milan.

Dortmund also have some injured players. The worse thing that their main goalkeeper is injured and there is no exact time for the recovery. So, in the upcoming match, Dortmund seems to play without their main goalkeeper. It will be a big lose for Dortmund because the substituted goalkeepers have bad quality. Although Dortmund has fantastic attackers, it will be useless if they have weak defense.


Milan played very well against PSG in their last game and managed to pick up three points. If they beat Dortmund in the next game, they will have a chance to get out of the group. In general, their Group F is the most unpredictable of all the others.

I think Borussia Dortmund have the best chance of getting out of the group now, obviously. Milan can reach the 1/8 finals if they win both matches, otherwise their exit from the group will be debatable and everything will be decided in the last match. I also think that Newcastle can beat PSG quite easily

Just because Dortmund got seven points so far in group F of the Chmapniso League, we can't say the performance of Dortmund was amazing so far. Dortmund is the team that usually has unstable performance and sure compared to a team like PSG in this group, they don't have famous superstar players yet. I think PSG is the first team in this group and then between Dortmund and AC Milan, I choose AC Milan for the second team.

It's hard to compare Dortmund and PSG, because PSG have no opponents in Ligue 1, while the latter have at least Bayern. In the Champions League Borussia shows itself I think well and I think that they will be able to reach the 1/8, although everything will depend on the last two matches. But even from the second place is very good

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November 24, 2023, 09:11:27 PM
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Milan played very well against PSG in their last game and managed to pick up three points. If they beat Dortmund in the next game, they will have a chance to get out of the group. In general, their Group F is the most unpredictable of all the others.
Yep. In the last match, AC Milan won against PSG. The goals were made by Giroud and Leao. These players have a big role for the productivity of AC Milan goals. As long as those players can play in the match against Dortmund, I think there is a chance to win and get 3 points. But if Leao still can't recover before the match, I'm a bit doubtful about the chance of AC Milan to beat Dortmund. Without Leao, AC Milan front line seems not very convincing. I only bet a draw result if Leao will be absent for the match.



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November 24, 2023, 09:25:39 PM
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We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

I would laugh like crazy if Barcelona failed to qualify for the third year in a row, but unfortunately the likelihood of this is low. But there is an equally interesting option: Porto beats Barcelona and takes first place, and Barcelona takes second place and ends up with Bayern in the 1/8 and we are seeing a classic beating confrontation  Grin

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November 24, 2023, 09:33:27 PM
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New castle still have a slim chance in the group F just like every other team in the group does, of which if they are brilliant with their performance in their next game, they could possibly win and get a chance to be at the second position in their group and make it pass group stage

PSG is currently facing another team in the Ligue 1 which I think will stress them a little as it's already playing out, this could be an advantage for Newcastle because they will be coming back from their break with all strength and their first encounter will be against PSG although they have some injuries but then they can possibly bet something good out of this match if their performance is really brilliant enough.

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November 24, 2023, 09:37:30 PM
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PSG's probability is higher than Newcastle in the fifth matchday match. both based on betting odds, and as the home team. apart from that, if we refer to their performance in their respective domestic leagues. In the first meeting, for me it was purely Enrique's mistake when developing his tactics and strategy.
Currently, PSG is playing their match against Monaco and three points is the result they must get. plus, motivating when Paris Saint Germain hosts Newcastle in the fifth matchday meeting of the Champions League group phase.

In fact, this match will be a real challenge for Newcastle as the away team, they will try to go all out to get full points at the Parc des Princess. not an easy match, especially technically and tactically, I think PSG is much better. If Newcastle fails, it means they will be eliminated in this group phase. in the other match in the Group E phase, it will be no less exciting and interesting. Dortmund and AC Milan will both be fighting each other to win in order to determine their chances of progressing to the next phase.
That is something that is very natural to happen because after all, looking at the probabilities, PSG is definitely the favourite club again because they have slightly better players and now they are playing at home which of course this can add to their enthusiasm anyway.
It's just that in this match I expect something different again in terms of results because I expect Newcastle to win again like the match in their first leg.
This is indeed a very difficult mission but there is nothing wrong with Newcastle playing all out in this match because this is a life and death match for them because if they lose this match then the opportunity to qualify in their debut for the Champions League could disappear in the 5th match of the Champions League group phase this time.

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