UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[slapper]

But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.

Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Mate don't say that to Manchester united even though they have not gotten the best results in the champions league so far they can still manage to surprise the world by beating Bayern Munich because Bayern Munich may decide not to take the match seriously. Regardless of what happened between Manchester united and Galatasaray, therw could be a change since we understand that football is full of uncertainty Manchester United can make out something against Bayern Munich while Galatasaray plays a draw with Copenhagen.

But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.

Truthfully, Im not holding my breath waiting for Manchester United to do something amazing. Theres no reason to be optimistic about their chances this season based on their past performances. They've been losing to Brighton, Tottenham, and even Arsenal. Nobody is doing well, not just the big names like Bayern Munich. Honestly, they couldnt even beat Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. Its not likely that they will quickly recover against Bayern. The club needs to rethink its approach and maybe even its leadership. We were looking for change from Ten Hag, but it hasnt happened yet, and its been months. He might give up for good on the last day of the UCL soccer games.

[Docnaster]

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances

 Another set of teams with an undecided situation would be Newcastle who almost secured a win against PSG but got disappointed after a late minute equalizer. As well as Dortmund who's been up and doing in their performance and have made winning difficult for their counterparts. It's likely to be a smooth qualification for them and maybe a struggle for PSG, Milan and Newcastle. Next week would be the determinant.

Bayern Munich does not have greater motivation and a draw against Copenhagen is quite natural because they rotated a lot of players and also Bayern Munich had already guaranteed themselves to qualify from the group so this was an unimportant match for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich's draw against Copenhagen is not a problem because all the teams that have ensured themselves of qualifying from the group phase will no longer be determined to win the match.

Bayern Munich was fair to the clubs in their group, they didn't show total dominance. I mean they gave other clubs good opportunity to qualify and that made the group a bit competitive after the dead group of ;
PSG
Newcastle
AC Milan
Dortmund
Manchester United actually didn't perform as expected because everyone must have thought that Manchester United will qualify comfortably in the group, maybe below Bayern Munich.

Kroos played a great role in the win against Napoli, although Bellingham and Nico Paz were the stars. I can't stop praising Bellingham, he was extraordinary. When Joselu was unlucky he was able to score a goal. Although in the end Joselu scored a goal. Apart from that, Nico Pas also performed well, scoring a hard kick from quite a distance. A great win and this ensures Madrid progress to the knockout phase.

Kroos is someone who balances the midfield and that is why Ancelotti still trusts him to guide Real Madrid's young squad. Bellingham's performance is commendable because he always scores goals when Real Madrid need to win and at a very young age he has been the leader in almost every match. This was also seen when he gave support to Joselu after scoring a goal and he asked Joselu to face the fans so that he wouldn't feel down mentally. The goal scored by Joselu was also thanks to an assist from Bellingham and he is indeed a complete player.

Real Madrid under Ancelotti has don very well in his transition plans. He knows how to gradually retire experienced and old players while allowing them to coach the young ones. The likes of Kronos and Modric has successfully mentored young guys who will take their position. For the case of Bellingham, I am just in short of words about his insane performance.

[borovichok]

Truthfully, Im not holding my breath waiting for Manchester United to do something amazing. Theres no reason to be optimistic about their chances this season based on their past performances. They've been losing to Brighton, Tottenham, and even Arsenal. Nobody is doing well, not just the big names like Bayern Munich. Honestly, they couldnt even beat Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. Its not likely that they will quickly recover against Bayern. The club needs to rethink its approach and maybe even its leadership. We were looking for change from Ten Hag, but it hasnt happened yet, and its been months. He might give up for good on the last day of the UCL soccer games.

Football is different with high spirits, we watch games were the elite clubs get thrashed by mediocre and these events happens on daily basis. I've prepared my mind to accept defeats from any club. Manchester United was overhyped this season in their first UCL game against Bayern Munich but it turn out they couldn't maintain such level of performance against Copenhagen and Galatasaray this season. Erik Ten Hag have to make plans if he still wants to qualify for the Europa spot this season, that's the only thing they could settle for since they won't be making out to the next phase this season.

[temple]

Truthfully, Im not holding my breath waiting for Manchester United to do something amazing. Theres no reason to be optimistic about their chances this season based on their past performances. They've been losing to Brighton, Tottenham, and even Arsenal. Nobody is doing well, not just the big names like Bayern Munich. Honestly, they couldnt even beat Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. Its not likely that they will quickly recover against Bayern. The club needs to rethink its approach and maybe even its leadership. We were looking for change from Ten Hag, but it hasnt happened yet, and its been months. He might give up for good on the last day of the UCL soccer games.

Football is different with high spirits, we watch games were the elite clubs get thrashed by mediocre and these events happens on daily basis. I've prepared my mind to accept defeats from any club. Manchester United was overhyped this season in their first UCL game against Bayern Munich but it turn out they couldn't maintain such level of performance against Copenhagen and Galatasaray this season. Erik Ten Hag have to make plans if he still wants to qualify for the Europa spot this season, that's the only thing they could settle for since they won't be making out to the next phase this season.

Not really, because I can't see why someone would describe Manchester United as an elite club. People tend to think about clubs as an elite club because they have done amazing things in the past, but why should Galatasaray or Copenhagen care about what Manchester United has done 20 years ago? Both these teams have been fearless and Manchester United has been innocuous for a while now. If anything, Manchester United should end this group in 4th place and neither play the EL nor the CL after the end of the year.

[X-ray]

But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.

However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.

If we focus on this season, which were those strong teams that Manchester United exceed expectations against? They lost against Tottenham, Arsenal, Brighton, Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Newcastle, then also against Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. I am sorry but I can't see where they exceeded expectations this season. This is why I hope that they now get kicked out and this drama surrounding them comes to an end. It isn't exactly a pleasure to watch them play in the top games. Those times are over and they need to adjust a lot of things or come up with some significant changes.

Manchester united never made any progress since a few years ago. The club was always getting stuck in the same place. I don't know why people keep said that MU has made great progress while it was always get nothing in any season. Ten hag was only helping manchester united to win FA cup which was nothing compared to the EPL or even UCL cup. Ten hag rarely bring manchester united into the final as well. People may be blind enought to see if manchester united made no achievement till this time.

Not even a single trophy prestigious trophy for united after ten hag has spent his time a few years in manchester united. I hope MU will sack him soon. MU doesn't really need a bad coach like ten hag which is always having problem against its players.
Ten hag was not a friendly coach for its players. Ronaldo, Sancho and greewood have been proving it about how bad ten hag is as a coach.

[hyudien]

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Football is different with high spirits, we watch games were the elite clubs get thrashed by mediocre and these events happens on daily basis. I've prepared my mind to accept defeats from any club. Manchester United was overhyped this season in their first UCL game against Bayern Munich but it turn out they couldn't maintain such level of performance against Copenhagen and Galatasaray this season. Erik Ten Hag have to make plans if he still wants to qualify for the Europa spot this season, that's the only thing they could settle for since they won't be making out to the next phase this season.

Not really, because I can't see why someone would describe Manchester United as an elite club. People tend to think about clubs as an elite club because they have done amazing things in the past, but why should Galatasaray or Copenhagen care about what Manchester United has done 20 years ago? Both these teams have been fearless and Manchester United has been innocuous for a while now. If anything, Manchester United should end this group in 4th place and neither play the EL nor the CL after the end of the year.

Sometimes Man United fans want to defend themselves in a subtle way and continue to maintain the "elite" nickname for a club that is currently in limbo this season. But for me personally it doesn't mean anything because what I see in the day are the results. No matter how elite a club is, if it is unable to show positive results on the field it still has no effect. Man United no longer has the elite composition of players it used to, so it's better to just get rid of the elite nickname for a while. Man United if it is an elite club why is the transfer market so stingy with budgets?

His fate in the Champions League is only 5% depending on Galasaray and Copenhagen who play this result. And for the daunting task of conquering Bayern Munich the odds on paper and on the pitch are simply impossible. It's better to slump and start admitting that the quality of your opponent's game is superior.

[Roseline492]

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances

Bayern Munich draw against Copenhagen is never a challenge to Bayern Munich chances of qualifying because there point already is enough to qualify them on the group but however I still never expected Bayern Munich to draw the match against Copenhagen because they are far better than Copenhagen in performance or maybe perhaps the match wasn't a big deal for Bayern Munich because they have to reserve there players for more bigger match ahead of them.

But however if Copenhagen wins Galatasaray on there match and Bayern Munich wins Manchester United Copenhagen will automatically qualify from there group table while Manchester United and Galatasaray will be left out.

[abhiseshakana]

Manchester united never made any progress since a few years ago. The club was always getting stuck in the same place. I don't know why people keep said that MU has made great progress while it was always get nothing in any season. Ten hag was only helping manchester united to win FA cup which was nothing compared to the EPL or even UCL cup. Ten hag rarely bring manchester united into the final as well. People may be blind enought to see if manchester united made no achievement till this time.

Not even a single trophy prestigious trophy for united after ten hag has spent his time a few years in manchester united. I hope MU will sack him soon. MU doesn't really need a bad coach like ten hag which is always having problem against its players.
Ten hag was not a friendly coach for its players. Ronaldo, Sancho and greewood have been proving it about how bad ten hag is as a coach.

I had the same thought. I think Man United hasn't shown good progress so far. After the Ferguson era ended, Man United's achievement which was quite satisfying was when they were coached by Jose Mourinho, where in 16/17 Man United managed to win 3 trophies. They indeed failed to get the Premier League trophy but got 3 other trophies, Isn't that a good achievement compared to what they get now?

Initially, Ten Hag was expected to provide better changes for Man United but if we look at how Man United is now, I think Ten Hag didn't carry out his role well and maybe it would be better if Man United immediately looked for a replacement for him.

[Oneandpure]

UEFA Champion League group stage have played 5 matches and left one match, some teams have settled 16 round position and still have many teams fighting for one ticket left each group qualify to next round. Many favorite and experienced team who predicting will be the winner in Champion League need waiting until last match for existing keep participants on knock out round or have eliminated to UEFA Europe League in this season.

Teams have been qualified to next round

• Bayern Munich
• Arsenal
• Real Madrid
• Real Sociedad
• Inter Milan
• Atletico Madrid
• Lazio
• Dortmund
• Manchester City
• RB Leipzig
• Barcelona

List teams need waiting last match result to qualify next round or not

• Copenhagen
• Galatasaray
• Manchester United
• PSV
• Lens
• Napoli
• Braga
• PSG
• Newcastle
• AC Milan
• FC Porto
• Shakhtar Donetsk

Which one list your favorite team, are on the first list have been qualified to next round or still on second list name waiting for last match result for qualifying to 16 round.

[shinratensei_]

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances

 Another set of teams with an undecided situation would be Newcastle who almost secured a win against PSG but got disappointed after a late minute equalizer. As well as Dortmund who's been up and doing in their performance and have made winning difficult for their counterparts. It's likely to be a smooth qualification for them and maybe a struggle for PSG, Milan and Newcastle. Next week would be the determinant.

Bayern Munich does not have greater motivation and a draw against Copenhagen is quite natural because they rotated a lot of players and also Bayern Munich had already guaranteed themselves to qualify from the group so this was an unimportant match for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich's draw against Copenhagen is not a problem because all the teams that have ensured themselves of qualifying from the group phase will no longer be determined to win the match.

Bayern's position was safe and the club shall not think about how to beat its opponent. It's caused by bayern needs to make sure that its position will be safe. I meant bayern needs to make sure its players will not be injured. Tuchel will not apply pressure to his players in order to secure a victory against Copenhagen; however, it is crucial for Bayern to defeat Manchester United in order to ensure that the club can eliminate one of the formidable teams from the UCL. It will be a very important mission owned by bayern. The club can kick out manchester united from the UCL.
Copenhagen or galatasaray will be so thankful to the bayern as long as it will be able to eliminate united from the group stage. Tuchel needs to destroy manchester united. Even though the next game is going to happen in old trafford.
It ain't a problem for bayern as one of most powerful club this season according to the some jurnalist. It is my belief that Kane is prepared to make a return to playing at Old Trafford, albeit with a different club.

[RockBell]

After another legendary game between Galatasaray and Manchester United the competition level in Group A has got even more heated. That one point was really important for Galatasaray before anything else. Thanks to this point Galatasaray only need to win against Copenhagen to guarantee their qualification for last 16 easier.

In case they get a draw in that game they will hope for Manchester United to lose against Bayern Munich home. If that happens as well Galatasaray must be still advancing to last 16 if I'm not wrong. However Galatasaray are playing away against Copenhagen so it will be a really tough game.

The game between Galatasaray and Manchester United was one of the most hilarious how would you be playing 2:1 first half and second half manchester united scored their third goal and from no were Galatasaray equalized and what a shameful game and Onana was scored with a freekick the same position and the second freekick was so annoying, and one thing I noticed with onana is that is overconfidence if not it becomes a serious issue they need to find a replace for him if not that is the beginning of manchester united downfall because they keep making the same mistake. Galatasaray will try their best to win against guarantee just to qualify for round 16 and even if they qualify they won't go far round 16 will be their bus stop am very sure of that. manchester United fans are seriously depressed and I feel their pain better luck next time.

[Fara Chan]

Bayern Munich does not have greater motivation and a draw against Copenhagen is quite natural because they rotated a lot of players and also Bayern Munich had already guaranteed themselves to qualify from the group so this was an unimportant match for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich's draw against Copenhagen is not a problem because all the teams that have ensured themselves of qualifying from the group phase will no longer be determined to win the match.

Apart from that, Bayern Munich are also certain to win in Group A so this can also be used as a reason for Bayern Munich not to exert their abilities too much in a match that does not change their position. So when Bayern Munich fields second-string players in the final match of the Champions League group stage, I think it will not be bad for Bayern Munich either. Because what they hoped for in Group A has also been achieved quite well so far and Bayern Munich can rest their main players for a while.

[Richbased]

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed.

I don't know why you said said Bayern Munich qualifying for the round of 16 is uncertain because from the table in their group, Bayern Munich has 13 points already and the club on the second position of their group table is    FC Copenhagen so you can see that Bayern Munich has already qualified for the knockout stages so whether they win their match against Manchester united or not it's not gonna be a problem to them and with the low performance of Manchester united I don't even see then winning Bayern Munich in their last group stage match.

[KTChampions]

Quite a normal assessment (pair Arsenal - Inter). Arsenal are consistently good in the Premier League and in the group stage of the Champions League Arsenal are also playing convincingly. And Inter, although playing well in Serie A, is poor in the group stage - at the moment they are losing the group to Sociedad and all their victories were won with a minimum score.
I wonder why Real are higher than City - City have virtually no weaknesses, while Real have them (at least on paper). In my opinion, the top three should look like: City, Bayern, Real Madrid.

I will not rate Inter Milan better than arsenal on their performance last season just  because they reached finals in Champions league last season. This season Inter Milan is doing different which I think arsenal is better in performance than Inter Milan if the quality of both teams should be checked.  For the performance of manchester united in the Champions league game their is no hope if they can be able to qualify for champions league.  Manchester United are in a terrible condition which their performance in champions league and Premier league is not impressive.

Bookmakers currently estimate the odds of United progressing from the group to the next round as 8.82. I can't say that this coefficient looks attractive. The point is not even in the coefficient, but in the fact that in addition to United’s “strong-willed” victory over Bayern, it is also necessary for a “chance” to work - a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray game. Too many unlikely events would have to happen for United to move on.

[legendbtc]

Onana's mistakes put Man United at significant risk of ending up at the bottom of the table in the Champions League. Their hope seems very small. He may be preparing to be the next scapegoat after Harry Maguire. Man United pushed De Gea out the door. I know that De Gea made some mistakes last season, But he played very consistently during his time at Man United. They made a mistake when they replaced De Gea with Onana.

now De Gea must be laughing at what happened to Ten Hag's choice to push him out of the team. The next opponent is Munich, and I don't think there is any hope for United to finish in 3rd place and head to the Europa League play off round. that possibility is very small now.
I don't know what other reasons Ten Hag will come up with. what is certain is that United will probably not retain him as United's coach. and I believe his performance this season is enough reason for United to sack him.

De Gea and Jadon Sancho, of course, would laugh at Ten Hag. They are very dissatisfied with coach Ten Hag. Ten Hag is under tremendous pressure this season when Man Utd is not playing well and is at the bottom of the table in the Champions League. Man Utd spent more than 217 million USD to recruit Rasmus Hojlund, Mason Mount, Onana, and Amrabat, but none of them proved worthy of the transfer money. Are they useless, or is Ten Hag not a good manager?
Man Utd's conditions to continue are now stringent as they must win against Bayern. At the same time, we must hope that Copenhagen draws with Galatasaray. Firing Ten Hag is a matter of sooner or later, but who can shoulder this great responsibility?

[rendravolt]

After losing against Barcelona, this made Porto have to fight even harder until the final round before they could ensure they qualified for the round of 16. However, their opponents in the remaining matches are Shakhtar, who also have 9 points. In the first round, Porto managed to beat Shakhtar with a score of 1-3 and they did it while away to Shakhtar's headquarters. This time it's Porto's turn to host Shakhtar and it looks like Porto's advantage will multiply because they get direct support from fans. I feel this will be an all-out match between the two teams and whoever loses will be eliminated and have to go down to the European league.

[Oluwa-btc]

Goal has been ranked the teams based on their power

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/champions-league-2023-24-power-rankings/

1. Real madrid
2. Manchester city
3. Arsenal
4. Bayern
5. Intermilan

To be honest, i would value intermilan far stronger compared with arsenal and it shall be in the third place. Seeing intermilan was able reaching UCL final last season but arsenal was not even entering into the UCL. In my opinion, the author's assessment of Arsenal's score seems somewhat unusual.

The thing that surprises me that if author has been placing manchester united as the weakest team in the UCL so far. It's only above braga which is a shame. I fully agreed with the author regarding the position of manchester united.

United is now a mediocre team in UCL. It's finished now and united has probably 10% chance to qualify for the knock out stage. It shows that how garbage manchester united under ten hag.

Quite a normal assessment (pair Arsenal - Inter). Arsenal are consistently good in the Premier League and in the group stage of the Champions League Arsenal are also playing convincingly. And Inter, although playing well in Serie A, is poor in the group stage - at the moment they are losing the group to Sociedad and all their victories were won with a minimum score.
I wonder why Real are higher than City - City have virtually no weaknesses, while Real have them (at least on paper). In my opinion, the top three should look like: City, Bayern, Real Madrid.

I will not rate Inter Milan better than arsenal on their performance last season just  because they reached finals in Champions league last season. This season Inter Milan is doing different which I think arsenal is better in performance than Inter Milan if the quality of both teams should be checked.  For the performance of manchester united in the Champions league game their is no hope if they can be able to qualify for champions league.  Manchester United are in a terrible condition which their performance in champions league and Premier league is not impressive.

This has got to be very inaccurate if you ask me. Heo do you want to measure the both of them then?! Inter Milan got to the Champions League finals and lost with a narrow win from City. Arsenal bottled the chances they had on winning the Premier League. We all know how the Champions League is way bigger than the Premier League. You shouldn't have compared the both of them in the first place.

This season, Inter Milan are also a better team than Arsenal, with both defending and attacking, you can't compare them together. If you intend to rank em, Inter Milan should come first ahead of gunner's.
Manchester United would be hoping nobody wins the game between Galatasaray and Copenhagen so they get a win against Bayern Munich. They'll need a miracle in between.

[hahay]

After losing against Barcelona, this made Porto have to fight even harder until the final round before they could ensure they qualified for the round of 16. However, their opponents in the remaining matches are Shakhtar, who also have 9 points. In the first round, Porto managed to beat Shakhtar with a score of 1-3 and they did it while away to Shakhtar's headquarters. This time it's Porto's turn to host Shakhtar and it looks like Porto's advantage will multiply because they get direct support from fans. I feel this will be an all-out match between the two teams and whoever loses will be eliminated and have to go down to the European league.

Yes indeed and at least, Porto also has an unbeaten head to head record when Porto plays against Shakhtar in the Champion League. Moreover, at this moment also at least Porto is still the favorite team to win based on the current odds. With factors like that, on paper Porto should be able to beat Shakhtar in the last match of this group stage. But even so, because Porto and Shakhtar have the same points with 9 points, then of course Shakhtar will also try even better to be able to win in this match. Because anyway, if for example this match ends with a draw score, then of course Porto will still qualify because Porto wins aggressiveness of goals.

[Gaza13]

After losing against Barcelona, this made Porto have to fight even harder until the final round before they could ensure they qualified for the round of 16. However, their opponents in the remaining matches are Shakhtar, who also have 9 points. In the first round, Porto managed to beat Shakhtar with a score of 1-3 and they did it while away to Shakhtar's headquarters. This time it's Porto's turn to host Shakhtar and it looks like Porto's advantage will multiply because they get direct support from fans. I feel this will be an all-out match between the two teams and whoever loses will be eliminated and have to go down to the European league.

Yes, of course FC Porto will not waste the opportunity of this final match at their own headquarters, this will determine their progress to the next round. However, FC Porto needs to be careful in maintaining the stamina of each player, and also ensure that each player does not suffer serious injuries in the first team, because their team will face another match in the near future. On the 7th, Porto will face Estoril in the Portuguese League match, on the 10th in the Local League, the next 4 days will determine FC Porto's fate in advancing to the next phase.

[temple]

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Football is different with high spirits, we watch games were the elite clubs get thrashed by mediocre and these events happens on daily basis. I've prepared my mind to accept defeats from any club. Manchester United was overhyped this season in their first UCL game against Bayern Munich but it turn out they couldn't maintain such level of performance against Copenhagen and Galatasaray this season. Erik Ten Hag have to make plans if he still wants to qualify for the Europa spot this season, that's the only thing they could settle for since they won't be making out to the next phase this season.

Not really, because I can't see why someone would describe Manchester United as an elite club. People tend to think about clubs as an elite club because they have done amazing things in the past, but why should Galatasaray or Copenhagen care about what Manchester United has done 20 years ago? Both these teams have been fearless and Manchester United has been innocuous for a while now. If anything, Manchester United should end this group in 4th place and neither play the EL nor the CL after the end of the year.

Sometimes Man United fans want to defend themselves in a subtle way and continue to maintain the "elite" nickname for a club that is currently in limbo this season. But for me personally it doesn't mean anything because what I see in the day are the results. No matter how elite a club is, if it is unable to show positive results on the field it still has no effect. Man United no longer has the elite composition of players it used to, so it's better to just get rid of the elite nickname for a while. Man United if it is an elite club why is the transfer market so stingy with budgets?

His fate in the Champions League is only 5% depending on Galasaray and Copenhagen who play this result. And for the daunting task of conquering Bayern Munich the odds on paper and on the pitch are simply impossible. It's better to slump and start admitting that the quality of your opponent's game is superior.

Yes just look at Barcelona and how they have been doing the last few years. Regardless of winning the title last season, in my opinion they were not part of the highest elite group anymore as they weren't playing this level that is unreachable for most others. They have had a good season and Real Madrid wasn't playing well in La Liga, which is why Barcelona could win the title. Now they are struggling in La Liga again and got lucky with their Champions League group, but I don't think they will be around in the semifinals of the Champions League.