UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[emrecemsan]

According to the updated championship odds in the Champions League the most favoured a couple of teams are lined like this:

Manchester City : 3.00
Bayern Munich : 5.00
Real Madrid : 6.50
Arsenal : 8.00

The gap between Manchester City and Bayern Munich is even closer now than before. But I still have doubts about Bayern Munich as I didn't like their game very much during the group stage. They struggled quite much in some matches despite winning anyway. This can be a big problem for them when they face a title contender in later stages.

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This might be that one UCL season where we might have a surprise winner or a team who wasn't top 3 favorite to win before the tournament began. Personally I won't count out PSG as this team could come out of nowhere and score 3 goals in 10 minutes , then we have Bayern who could do the same and I think between these 2 teams , one of them will be the final winner.

I say this because we all saw how Barcelona are doing in UCL and they are not playing great football at all , then we have City who really likes to concede goals and then we have Real who without Bellingham in a great night , they barely score or win.

I think Manchester City is still a title candidate this season and ya, even though you think Manchester City seems to be conceding easily. But ya, the reality is that Manchester City has a way to overcome it well too because after all, in this group phase Manchester City is a team that has a higher goal productivity than other teams. Therefore, at least Manchester City is not bad and not weak at all, because Manchester City still has good chance too to be considered until the final match.

Instead of considering PSG who might be able to make a surprise, I think it will be more interesting about Arsenal and maybe also Atletico. Because yes, for me PSG still does not have a good chance to be a candidate team that will go further. Because yes, for me PSG is quite often disappointing for results in the Champions League, moreover PSG also seems to be still difficult to get the right rotation to stay focused in Ligue 1 and in the Champions League.

You forgot to mention Bayern, who are also very strong at the moment. Of course Manchester City are cup contenders, but I think that this season Bayern can make it to the final too. PSG are also good, but usually they don't do well in the playoffs.

[hahay]

The group is insanely close with both games being tied 1-1. PSG is still ahead with 8 points, but one goal for Newcastle and they are in the next round if PSG doesn't win the game. But it's still all possible if Dortmund scores another goal and Milan sometimes has a chance, if they get lucky and score one more there will be pressure on those teams everywhere. This is how I like it!

This match in Group F is the most interesting, because until now we still don't know which club will qualify apart from Dortmund. It's a shame that Newcastle finally conceded a goal from Milan, even though they were already ahead 1-0 and statistically they were superior. On the other hand, PSG and Dortmund are also still tied. So they are all still really struggling to this day. However, I think PSG might have a greater chance of qualifying for the next qualification.

Now we know how this competition will go on and I think PSG was also a deserved winner in this group. I am unsure about Dortmund as I am not convinced of their game, but they won the group and now we will see how they will play in the next round, but I don't expect too much from them. PSG could have sent a warning to the soccer world if they won the game against Dortmund big time, but now they could again come to an end rather sooner than later when they are up against a team like Real Madrid. The names in the PSG team are great, but names haven't won any competition ever. But they are to blame as they had the chance to win the group if they won the game against Dortmund.

PSG has a squad that is used to winning trophies at least in the domestic league and also, basically PSG is an elite French team and yes, of course they have a good winning mentality too . But unfortunately, PSG always gets less than optimal results in the Champions League so yes, even though on paper PSG's quality is better than Dortmund, but PSG still failed to beat Dortmund.

Therefore, of course PSG must be able to accept the result they got of only being runners up, at least this result is still good for them compared to just finishing in the lower position . So yes, taking into account the results PSG got in this group phase then yes, at least I'm still not sure PSG can progress further. Because yes, it looks like PSG still really needs more time, of course to build a better team to get a performance that promises trophies in the future in the Champions League.

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I think Manchester City is still a title candidate this season and ya, even though you think Manchester City seems to be conceding easily. But ya, the reality is that Manchester City has a way to overcome it well too because after all, in this group phase Manchester City is a team that has a higher goal productivity than other teams. Therefore, at least Manchester City is not bad and not weak at all, because Manchester City still has good chance too to be considered until the final match.

Instead of considering PSG who might be able to make a surprise, I think it will be more interesting about Arsenal and maybe also Atletico. Because yes, for me PSG still does not have a good chance to be a candidate team that will go further. Because yes, for me PSG is quite often disappointing for results in the Champions League, moreover PSG also seems to be still difficult to get the right rotation to stay focused in Ligue 1 and in the Champions League.

You forgot to mention Bayern, who are also very strong at the moment. Of course Manchester City are cup contenders, but I think that this season Bayern can make it to the final too. PSG are also good, but usually they don't do well in the playoffs.

Maybe everyone will say the same thing to PSG now, and will most likely agree that Luis Enrique squad is not taken into account in the UCL this season. Because the reference used is the group phase, anyone who pays attention to PSG progress there, doubts will come to them to say that they can talk a lot in the UCL this season. We certainly understand that surprises could happen in the future, and PSG could experience an increase in performance so that they can create consistency that can take them to the final, but rationally there is very little chance of this happening.

Apart from that, the facts above do not mean underestimating Enrique squad, we also really understand the quality and depth that PSG currently has, which any team in the UCL must be aware of. However, as seen so far, Madrid, Bayern and Man City are the three clubs that should be prioritized above PSG, because they have better statistics in the previous round. On the other hand, I think placing a team on the favorites list based on their success last season cannot be done absolutely, because this season is very different.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

The draw for the last 16 is on Monday 18th December.

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Which teams are in the round of 16 draw?

The draw features the 16 teams that advance from the UEFA Champions League group stage:

Group winners (seeded): Arsenal (ENG), Atlético de Madrid (ESP), Barcelona (ESP), Bayern (GER), Dortmund (GER), Manchester City (ENG), Real Madrid (ESP), Real Sociedad (ESP)

Group runners-up (unseeded): Copenhagen (DEN), Inter (ITA), Lazio (ITA), Leipzig (GER), Napoli (ITA), Paris (FRA), Porto (POR), PSV Eindhoven (NED)

How does the draw work?

The group winners are seeded and the runners-up are unseeded. Seeded teams are drawn against unseeded teams.

Can teams from the same country face each other in the Champions League round of 16?

No side can face another team from the same national association.

Clubs cannot face opponents they met during the group stage.

The draw will be streamed live on UEFA.com.

When do the round of 16 games take place?

The round of 16 is played over the course of four weeks:

First legs: 13/14/20/21 February 2024 
Second legs: 5/6/12/13 March 2024

[Amphenomenon]

Maybe everyone will say the same thing to PSG now, and will most likely agree that Luis Enrique squad is not taken into account in the UCL this season. Because the reference used is the group phase, anyone who pays attention to PSG progress there, doubts will come to them to say that they can talk a lot in the UCL this season. We certainly understand that surprises could happen in the future, and PSG could experience an increase in performance so that they can create consistency that can take them to the final, but rationally there is very little chance of this happening.

Apart from that, the facts above do not mean underestimating Enrique squad, we also really understand the quality and depth that PSG currently has, which any team in the UCL must be aware of. However, as seen so far, Madrid, Bayern and Man City are the three clubs that should be prioritized above PSG, because they have better statistics in the previous round. On the other hand, I think placing a team on the favorites list based on their success last season cannot be done absolutely, because this season is very different.

PSG as always been having excellent squad depth for the past 4 seasons especially the past two which we could have called the ultimate team but they have not done except in Tuchel era when they made it to final since then they have been disappointing, still yet if Enrique can get his team together then they actually can win the champions league but i doubt because of how they played in group stage and then finishing second place to dortmund
Arsenal may have some serious opponent aside psg which inlude Inter Milan and Napoli, these two teams are really excellent in their domestic league and we have seen how far they have gone in recent champions leagues especially last year when inter made it to final

[tusandii]

The group is insanely close with both games being tied 1-1. PSG is still ahead with 8 points, but one goal for Newcastle and they are in the next round if PSG doesn't win the game. But it's still all possible if Dortmund scores another goal and Milan sometimes has a chance, if they get lucky and score one more there will be pressure on those teams everywhere. This is how I like it!

This match in Group F is the most interesting, because until now we still don't know which club will qualify apart from Dortmund. It's a shame that Newcastle finally conceded a goal from Milan, even though they were already ahead 1-0 and statistically they were superior. On the other hand, PSG and Dortmund are also still tied. So they are all still really struggling to this day. However, I think PSG might have a greater chance of qualifying for the next qualification.

Now we know how this competition will go on and I think PSG was also a deserved winner in this group. I am unsure about Dortmund as I am not convinced of their game, but they won the group and now we will see how they will play in the next round, but I don't expect too much from them. PSG could have sent a warning to the soccer world if they won the game against Dortmund big time, but now they could again come to an end rather sooner than later when they are up against a team like Real Madrid. The names in the PSG team are great, but names haven't won any competition ever. But they are to blame as they had the chance to win the group if they won the game against Dortmund.

Both clubs have indeed qualified for next round but are not sure whether the two clubs dortmund and PSG will be able to continue their struggle to the higher rounds while the strongest candidate at the moment  Real Madrid who will continue to try to get rid of any club that will get in their way and one side Real madrid. targeting talented striker who will perfect his performance in the next match.
So it possible that PSG and Dortmund will find difficult to find the safest place because Manchester City also still has the ambition to win Champions league title.
But talking about speculation about the biggest opportunity between two club, it seems like dortmund has a bigger chance than PSG because Dortmund has more experience than PSG.

[bitgolden]

Even though Arsenal this season said it was very easy to advance to the round of 16 and become group champions, in the UCL, even in the round of 16, nothing is easy because even the unseeded team can make a surprise considering Arsenal's track record of rarely going far. As far as I remember, Arsenal's track record in the last 10X 16 has always met strong teams.

Arsenal have difficulty scoring goals because they don't have a striker who is hungry for goals, they should look for a striker in this transfer market. But I'm not sure if Arsenal won't bring in a striker in January, because Arteta wants every player to be able to score goals, not rely on just 1 player/number 9 because it's easier to predict how Arsenal will play. So he doesn't want to sacrifice his tactics for the sake of just one striker.

I believe that Jesus is a great player and he could be that person for them and been doing that a bit as well. You can't get Haaland or Kane type of players that easily, those players are rare, and finding someone like that would not be cheap neither, and can't get one during the winter break neither because those type of players are not easy to find. You can find people who could score here and there, but they are not going to be the one you are looking for and the result will not be good for you since you would pay a lot.

Let me give you an example, Vlahovic is a great player right? And scores bunch of goals for his team? Do you really think that if Arsenal spent some money and got him, they could fix all their problems? Of course not, he would not be what they are looking for. And not like they can convince Mbappe to go there neither. So what can they do? Well, just let this season end and they could look for some other player during the summer if they fail this year as well.

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According to the updated championship odds in the Champions League the most favoured a couple of teams are lined like this:

Manchester City : 3.00
Bayern Munich : 5.00
Real Madrid : 6.50
Arsenal : 8.00

The gap between Manchester City and Bayern Munich is even closer now than before. But I still have doubts about Bayern Munich as I didn't like their game very much during the group stage. They struggled quite much in some matches despite winning anyway. This can be a big problem for them when they face a title contender in later stages.

I think the same thing, there were times when they had difficulties against their opponents in every match they played in their groups. but they managed to win at the end of the matches.
This is one of the characteristics of great teams. Even though they didn't play very well, they managed to get 3 points at the end of the match.
I think they went out on the field with the aim of getting sufficient scores without tiring themselves too much in the matches they played in the group. I'm sure they will play with a much better performance in the next matches. I don't know if they can be champions, but they are a pretty big candidate

[Hvdv]

He's still around the club and holds a position within Manchester United as a special advisor to the board and management. I've also read a new of how he's backing Erik Ten Hag for the job come rain come sun.

I want to blame him at times but I can't do that! I wonder why he gave chance of management too David Moyes who sent the club back to the trenches and slums with his poor tactics and management? But, what can I do? What ever has been done has been done. It's time to look forward aminot backwards.

For the job, Erik Ten Hag should be backed even if he lose against Liverpool on Sunday at Anfield. He is a great manager. Looking at the past managers who've been sacked, Erik Ten Hag has done a better job than them all. Someone correct me if I'm lying. So why sack him when you can get him the players he wants?!

Manchester United is not in good form and its clearly understandable by the supportive die-hard fans. They know within themselves they can't withstand the pressing energy of these elite clubs and they also have a fight to win because they need to be among the top four clubs this season, qualifying for the UEFA Champions League competition will be of great honor despite failing to qualify from the group stage this season. Erik Ten Hag is held with complicated jobs and any decisions he makes, neither good or bad have a 50/50 of ruining or exploring the club.

In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag may be one of the worst coaches to ever come to Manchester United. I still don't understand how he can be in charge of the team. Don't they see that they were defeated at Old Trafford in their UCL group and finished last in the group? The money spent on transfers is very high and these inefficient players are purchased or the player cannot be productive. In this situation, I am surprised to see that he is still in charge of the team.

[Oluwa-btc]

He's still around the club and holds a position within Manchester United as a special advisor to the board and management. I've also read a new of how he's backing Erik Ten Hag for the job come rain come sun.

I want to blame him at times but I can't do that! I wonder why he gave chance of management too David Moyes who sent the club back to the trenches and slums with his poor tactics and management? But, what can I do? What ever has been done has been done. It's time to look forward aminot backwards.

For the job, Erik Ten Hag should be backed even if he lose against Liverpool on Sunday at Anfield. He is a great manager. Looking at the past managers who've been sacked, Erik Ten Hag has done a better job than them all. Someone correct me if I'm lying. So why sack him when you can get him the players he wants?!

Manchester United is not in good form and its clearly understandable by the supportive die-hard fans. They know within themselves they can't withstand the pressing energy of these elite clubs and they also have a fight to win because they need to be among the top four clubs this season, qualifying for the UEFA Champions League competition will be of great honor despite failing to qualify from the group stage this season. Erik Ten Hag is held with complicated jobs and any decisions he makes, neither good or bad have a 50/50 of ruining or exploring the club.

That I would agree, good things take time, I see that he also finds it difficult managing big players no wonder he wants a couple few players out at the start of the transfer window. He has also taken full responsibility for the decline of Manchester United and how they play. What's expected is for them fans to have a little bit of hope ( Though I know hoping is dangerous ) and patience. He'll make good changes. I don't go around hoping to get pleasure from Manchester United lately coz of how they play and shape. I don't evem expect them to finish at the top or amongst the first four clubs.

I be rooting for Tottenham Hotspur, after the Chelsea game they've been a shaky side and I hope to see them stabilized. They could still share points tonight but not a lose to em.

[QueenVera]

Both clubs have indeed qualified for the next round but are not sure whether the two clubs Dortmund and PSG will be able to continue their struggle to the higher rounds while the strongest candidate at the moment is Real Madrid who will continue to try to get rid of any club that will get in their way and one side is Real Madrid. targeting a talented striker who will perfect his performance in the next match.
So it is possible that PSG and Dortmund will find it difficult to find the safest place because Manchester City also still has the ambition to win the Champions League title.
But talking about speculation about the biggest opportunity between the two clubs, it seems like Dortmund has a bigger chance than PSG because Dortmund has more experience than PSG.

PSG are so lucky to have been able to continue in the UCL tournament,  they might have moved into the next round bit I'm not really impressed with their style of play, despite the fact that they're a team capable of being a threat to other top European clubs, but they still have some lapses that's to be tackled, if you noticed in the group stage,  they got embarrassed by Newcastle at England and I'm pretty sure that they might not even reach the semifinals.

 However Realmadrid on the other hand are a team, that has got alot of experience in the tournament, they have even got more UCL trophies than any other European country, and there's a possibility of them reaching the semi's or becoming finalist, compared to PSG that are giants only in the French league but are yet to have one major trophy.

[Josefjix]

PSG are so lucky to have been able to continue in the UCL tournament,  they might have moved into the next round bit I'm not really impressed with their style of play, despite the fact that they're a team capable of being a threat to other top European clubs, but they still have some lapses that's to be tackled, if you noticed in the group stage,  they got embarrassed by Newcastle at England and I'm pretty sure that they might not even reach the semifinals.

 However Realmadrid on the other hand are a team, that has got alot of experience in the tournament, they have even got more UCL trophies than any other European country, and there's a possibility of them reaching the semi's or becoming finalist, compared to PSG that are giants only in the French league but are yet to have one major trophy.

Paris Saint Germain is an underrated club in the UEFA Champions League this season and they've lost golden opportunities of grabbing good wins in league matches, the fault comes from the players, the coach, the supporters who keep criticizing players and the main fault is from PSG president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi. He's definitely not the right owner to lead the club to triumphed path. Despite messing up in earlier on in UCL Group stage matches, they still qualify for next round and that is precisely what we called lucky club. Luis Enrique is a good coach and he can able anything that comes his way.

[Texac]

However Realmadrid on the other hand are a team, that has got alot of experience in the tournament, they have even got more UCL trophies than any other European country, and there's a possibility of them reaching the semi's or becoming finalist, compared to PSG that are giants only in the French league but are yet to have one major trophy.

Real Madrid team is much stronger than PSG. The bonding between Real Madrid players is very strong. That's why despite not having an experienced striker, Real Madrid performed very well in every match of the group stage. On the other hand, the performance of PSG players in the group stage matches was very erratic. However, if Real Madrid want to win the Champions League title, they will definitely need to add an experienced striker to their squad in the winter transfer. Without an experienced striker, it will be much more difficult for Real Madrid to consistently perform well in each match in the knockout rounds.

[Mayor of ogba]

This might be that one UCL season where we might have a surprise winner or a team who wasn't top 3 favorite to win before the tournament began. Personally I won't count out PSG as this team could come out of nowhere and score 3 goals in 10 minutes , then we have Bayern who could do the same and I think between these 2 teams , one of them will be the final winner.

I say this because we all saw how Barcelona are doing in UCL and they are not playing great football at all , then we have City who really likes to concede goals and then we have Real who without Bellingham in a great night , they barely score or win.

I don't see Paris Saint-German as a club that will win the Uefa Champions League trophy this season because PSG struggled to reach the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I see PSG as a club that will be knocked out of the Uefa Champions League when they play the round of 16.

[ShowOff]

Manchester United is not in good form and its clearly understandable by the supportive die-hard fans. They know within themselves they can't withstand the pressing energy of these elite clubs and they also have a fight to win because they need to be among the top four clubs this season, qualifying for the UEFA Champions League competition will be of great honor despite failing to qualify from the group stage this season. Erik Ten Hag is held with complicated jobs and any decisions he makes, neither good or bad have a 50/50 of ruining or exploring the club.

In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag may be one of the worst coaches to ever come to Manchester United. I still don't understand how he can be in charge of the team. Don't they see that they were defeated at Old Trafford in their UCL group and finished last in the group? The money spent on transfers is very high and these inefficient players are purchased or the player cannot be productive. In this situation, I am surprised to see that he is still in charge of the team.

Categorizing Ten Hag as one of the worst coaches for Manchester United may not be accurate, but I don't think Ten Hag is one of the most successful. Ten Hag had an incredible season last season with Manchester United, as a result Ten Hag managed to get Manchester United through to the group stage of the Champions League this season. But not so in his second season, he failed to live up to many expectations and his team fell apart.

Until tomorrow and beyond, money doesn't guarantee everything is fine for the club. PSG has spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title, yet they still failed despite reaching the final a few seasons ago. Manchester United needed big changes including getting the club acquired by new investors, but that still failed when the Glazer family still refused to do so.

[Silberman]

In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag may be one of the worst coaches to ever come to Manchester United. I still don't understand how he can be in charge of the team. Don't they see that they were defeated at Old Trafford in their UCL group and finished last in the group? The money spent on transfers is very high and these inefficient players are purchased or the player cannot be productive. In this situation, I am surprised to see that he is still in charge of the team.

I read that this is only the fourth time that an England squad ended up being eliminated as the worst team on their group, this should show us how disappointing was their performance, especially in a group that when you look at it was not intimidating like Group F was, as such there should be no doubts that Manchester United is going through a very severe crisis, and while firing the coach is the easy way out, the performance of the team is so bad that those that take the decisions there may not have any other option but to pull the trigger and fire the coach anyway.

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Categorizing Ten Hag as one of the worst coaches for Manchester United may not be accurate, but I don't think Ten Hag is one of the most successful. Ten Hag had an incredible season last season with Manchester United, as a result Ten Hag managed to get Manchester United through to the group stage of the Champions League this season. But not so in his second season, he failed to live up to many expectations and his team fell apart.

Until tomorrow and beyond, money doesn't guarantee everything is fine for the club. PSG has spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title, yet they still failed despite reaching the final a few seasons ago. Manchester United needed big changes including getting the club acquired by new investors, but that still failed when the Glazer family still refused to do so.

If Erik Ten Hag is categorized as a bad coach then the previous season would not have been in the Champions League but this time it was a failure that he led his team, maybe you are right, there are divisions in the team so it is difficult for Man United to be solid again. I think Erik Ten Hag's philosophy is too strict and this is not comfortable for the players or anything else, this problem is not so detailed it will remain what is rumored we are quite sure there are divisions at his club now.

Maybe after Man United was acquired, things will change? However, this did not happen Glazer wanted a higher price and potential new investors did not want to buy a club that was too expensive, the same thing happened with Chelsea, who spent a lot of money investing in players, but in fact it did not meet the club owner's expectations.

[borovichok]

Categorizing Ten Hag as one of the worst coaches for Manchester United may not be accurate, but I don't think Ten Hag is one of the most successful. Ten Hag had an incredible season last season with Manchester United, as a result Ten Hag managed to get Manchester United through to the group stage of the Champions League this season. But not so in his second season, he failed to live up to many expectations and his team fell apart.

Until tomorrow and beyond, money doesn't guarantee everything is fine for the club. PSG has spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title, yet they still failed despite reaching the final a few seasons ago. Manchester United needed big changes including getting the club acquired by new investors, but that still failed when the Glazer family still refused to do so.

UCL competition is the top tournament in the world of European football. Manchester United exits the UEFA Champions League in a  disgraceful act and this have become the regular routine for the Red Devils. They don't stand in good position to qualify for any significant spot, always relying on their main player's and this is crucially bad news. Erik Ten Hag have failed the fans and the club, he doesn't sits balance to take his club to the next level, he just have instructs his club on becoming a top one because everyone keen on waiting for the firing Red Devils in past decades.

[kawetsriyanto]

Real Madrid team is much stronger than PSG. The bonding between Real Madrid players is very strong. That's why despite not having an experienced striker, Real Madrid performed very well in every match of the group stage. On the other hand, the performance of PSG players in the group stage matches was very erratic. However, if Real Madrid want to win the Champions League title, they will definitely need to add an experienced striker to their squad in the winter transfer. Without an experienced striker, it will be much more difficult for Real Madrid to consistently perform well in each match in the knockout rounds.

Indeed. Real Madrid is still stronger than PSG. It is not only about the bonding among the players, they also have good relationship with the coach. I almost have never heard about the bad issue between Ancelotti and the players. He is a smart coach and has a charismatic personality. This creates good atmosphere in Real Madrid squad. It is very different with PSG that we often heard that Mbappe and some players have bad relationships.

Yep. Real Madrid won all the matches in group stage, they played perfectly so far. But Real Madrid seems still have a little problem, they have no strong strikers. A strong striker is needed because he can make a difference in the match, and the team sometimes relies on the striker in scoring goals. However, Real Madrid still have productive attackers like Bellingham, Vinicius, and Rodrygo.

PSG got difficulty in some matches in group stage. They are even almost not qualified to the next round. Luckily, other teams in F also experienced the same thing. Well, PSG is quite lucky to qualify for the knock-out phase.