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December 17, 2023, 05:15:16 PM
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We saw even the strongest version of PSG fail in the Champions League and that's why it's not surprising to see this team fail to get anything this season even with a coach like Ennriqu in this team because they had players like Messi and Neymar in this team and but failed the tournament and now PSG lost many players.
That's not a good reason to say PSC achieved the title just because of the new coach they got or just because of the games they won so far because PSG didn't face a strong team so far in the Champions League yet.

PSG obviously had a lot of stars in the team at one time. But that was just in the attack. And in the defense it was Ramos. In the defense, there were some players who are a lot recognizable. But the team was definitely not balanced. And of course, Lionel Messi was more interested in the World Cup compared to the Ligue 1 title in my opinion, and understandably so. But it was definitely a disappointment for PSG to not be able to win the Champions League title. And let's be honest, the performance was also not like a Champions League-winning team to be honest. And my thinking is that if they were unable to win the title with such good players, how are they going to win the title now?



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December 17, 2023, 05:20:34 PM
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I know Real Madrid and Manchester city are among the strong teams in this season but it will be difficult for them to achieve this trophy in this season because, there are many strong teams that qualified for the round 16 that will give them lockout from the remaining games. Bayern Munich and Inter Milan are the 2 teams people are looking unto in this period because their players are well completed to battle with any team but Manchester city is seriously experiencing some problem that will not allow them to reach final in this UEFA champions league competition.

I guess PSG coach has a lot of work to do to make people believe that he is capable to move the team to another level that will give people joy because many people were not happy for the struggle they struggle in their group to qualify which is not encouraging their fans.
The round of 16 stage of the UCL seems tough as expected due to the fact that teams that advanced are literally the best at their deeds in their various domestic leagues. The UCL is always a tournament for the best teams in the game and it adds to the fun of football as all teams would strive to survive through each other's heat.

 No team would trade their chances or give off points to the other as every goal counts. No matter the set fixture, both teams are definitely going to be tough for each other. This is one stage that should be watched closely, it's very much risky to predict at these points cos none will be willing to submit to the other. The top teams in this league will have to battle it out in two legs per opponent. There'd definitely be inflow of goals too. The toughest part of the contest is just here.

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December 17, 2023, 05:42:13 PM
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Spain became the country that qualified the most teams to the knockout phase. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Real Sociedad they all won the group. Only Sevilla failed to qualify. While for Germany and Italy only 3 each then England 2. Of course with the condition of Niki the chances of Spanish clubs winning the UCL this season are quite large, but there are many strong teams in this knockout phase. I'm waiting for the knockout phase draw, hopefully there will be a game with a League team or a final too early.

I don’t wish for the final to come too early as it happened last season when the match between Real Madrid and Manchester City was played at the semifinals matchup. It was very obvious that any team that won between those two in the semifinals will be the champions league winners and that was what happened after Manchester City eliminated Real Madrid from the semifinal. I can’t say for now which league teams will make it to the final just yet. The elimination stage draws will decide more on which team would make it far in this competition before getting to the final stage of the competition.

Even though Spain has the most teams that have qualified for the Champions League knockout phase but ya, this factor still won't guarantee that the Spanish team will get the trophy. After all, of that four teams, the only one who really has a chance to go further is Real Madrid because yes, the other three teams don't have as good a chance as Real Madrid to go further at this moment.

After all, even though Germany and England only have a few teams in this knockout phase, but in reality teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, Bayern Munich also have good quality and ya, at least there is still Inter there too. Therefore, even though Spain has more teams in this knockout phase but still, not all Spanish teams have a good chance.

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December 17, 2023, 06:02:13 PM
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Currently bookies are showing Bayern Munich as a bigger favourite than Real Madrid for the Champions League title. However I'm thinking exactly the opposite here. It seems like they are missing an important point while determining the biggest favourites of the title. They are overlooking the fact that Real Madrid have won this title the most and by far compared to their latest competitor in this.

In addition Real Madrid became champions here 5 times in the last 10 seasons. Isn't this record worth being shown as the second biggest favourite at least?  Grin

I can understand them about making Manchester City the biggest favourite. It is obvious that they are the strongest team in the competition right now.

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December 17, 2023, 06:35:51 PM
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Currently bookies are showing Bayern Munich as a bigger favourite than Real Madrid for the Champions League title. However I'm thinking exactly the opposite here. It seems like they are missing an important point while determining the biggest favourites of the title. They are overlooking the fact that Real Madrid have won this title the most and by far compared to their latest competitor in this.

In addition Real Madrid became champions here 5 times in the last 10 seasons. Isn't this record worth being shown as the second biggest favourite at least?  Grin

I can understand them about making Manchester City the biggest favourite. It is obvious that they are the strongest team in the competition right now.
I think bookies should update the favorites list every week, because a decline in team performance can occur in a short time. No one denies that Madrid, Bayern and Man City are the top three teams on the favorites list, but currently when referring to their performance in their respective domestic leagues, the three of them have lost their place at the top of the standings.

Madrid occupies second place in the La Liga standings, Bayern occupies second place in the Bundesliga standings, and Man City occupies fourth place in the Premier League. Even though I understand the competitive level is different, and the team performance can also be very different when playing in the UCL, at least this gives a bit of an actual picture of their current strength. I think several other clubs such as Inter Milan, Arsenal and even Barcelona are worth considering, because they have attributes that can make them talk a lot this season.

Regardless of the ideal list, we still have to give space to teams that can surprise. Because in UCL luck plays a very important role, such as being lucky in being in an easy group, drawing results bringing together equal opponents and things like that. In short, we cannot underestimate the teams that have passed the group phase and advanced to the round of 16 at this time. Sometimes our favorite teams make us win easily in betting, and not infrequently they also make us lose some money due to being too confident in them.

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December 17, 2023, 07:11:32 PM
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As far as I know the draw for last 16 is going to take place on next Monday. I wish Galatasaray were also a part of it but unfortunately they performed terrible against Copenhagen like it wasn't an important game and this resulted in their elimination from the competition.  Sad  But at least we earned a lot of money during the journey which is important to finance our latest transfers.

I think that Copenhagen won't last any longer in the Champions League by the way. Looking at the group leaders only Real Sociedad can be considered a favourable challenge for them.

But even Real Sociedad have been amazing as they finished their group as the leader in Inter's presence in the same group.  Smiley


Galatasaray really fucked up that day as I never expected a defeat from them by Copenhagen that day. My taught about the game is to end in draw even if Galatasaray didn't win. I welcome Galatasaray to the Europa league play -off, I wish they can perform a little bit well in the play-off to secure a place in the Europa league.

If they had not played so badly in the most important match, Galatasaray would be in the Champions League right now, what they did was a big mistake. They failed to score and win the match against the weakest team in their group.
Maybe now they will be successful in the Europa League. It was not easy to advance in the Champions League, but they still have a chance to achieve success, at least for this season Smiley

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December 17, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
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As far as I know the draw for last 16 is going to take place on next Monday. I wish Galatasaray were also a part of it but unfortunately they performed terrible against Copenhagen like it wasn't an important game and this resulted in their elimination from the competition.  Sad  But at least we earned a lot of money during the journey which is important to finance our latest transfers.
I think that Copenhagen won't last any longer in the Champions League by the way. Looking at the group leaders only Real Sociedad can be considered a favourable challenge for them.
But even Real Sociedad have been amazing as they finished their group as the leader in Inter's presence in the same group.  Smiley

Galatasaray really fucked up that day as I never expected a defeat from them by Copenhagen that day. My taught about the game is to end in draw even if Galatasaray didn't win. I welcome Galatasaray to the Europa league play -off, I wish they can perform a little bit well in the play-off to secure a place in the Europa league.
If they had not played so badly in the most important match, Galatasaray would be in the Champions League right now, what they did was a big mistake. They failed to score and win the match against the weakest team in their group.
Maybe now they will be successful in the Europa League. It was not easy to advance in the Champions League, but they still have a chance to achieve success, at least for this season Smiley

Galatasaray team failed to win both matches against Copenhagen. Although the first match was a 2-2 draw, Galatasaray was defeated in the second leg match. But I wouldn't say that Galatasaray's performance was poor. Galatasaray played well enough and finally tried to win the match. But Galatasaray's luck was not good. But I am happy that Galatasaray qualified for the Europa League. Galatasaray has the potential to do well in the Europa League. This team is very strong this season. They won't have much trouble qualifying for the Europa League semi-finals unless they face Liverpool or Leverkusen.

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December 17, 2023, 07:29:08 PM
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Currently bookies are showing Bayern Munich as a bigger favourite than Real Madrid for the Champions League title. However I'm thinking exactly the opposite here. It seems like they are missing an important point while determining the biggest favourites of the title. They are overlooking the fact that Real Madrid have won this title the most and by far compared to their latest competitor in this.

In addition Real Madrid became champions here 5 times in the last 10 seasons. Isn't this record worth being shown as the second biggest favourite at least? 

I can understand them about making Manchester City the biggest favourite. It is obvious that they are the strongest team in the competition right now.
I think Bayern Munich has less of experience enough to be considered the favourite to win the champions league but Real Madrid is even much more experienced and have got what it takes to be able to win the league again as they have won it three times in a row so their probability for me is much higher that others.

Bayern Munich is a good team no doubts, they have aswell have a very good squad depth and even strength and so does Manchester city and Real Madrid so I wouldn't agree with the idea that Manchester city is currently the strongest team. They may have performed so well at the group stage and lost no game at the group stage but I still think at this round of sixteen more of the abilities and capacity of each team will be further reveled so I'm been careful to not be too assertive with the abilities of these teams. But personal I think the winners of the UCL lays between Manchester city and Real Madrid.

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December 17, 2023, 07:32:30 PM
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We saw even the strongest version of PSG fail in the Champions League and that's why it's not surprising to see this team fail to get anything this season even with a coach like Ennriqu in this team because they had players like Messi and Neymar in this team and but failed the tournament and now PSG lost many players.
That's not a good reason to say PSC achieved the title just because of the new coach they got or just because of the games they won so far because PSG didn't face a strong team so far in the Champions League yet.

PSG obviously had a lot of stars in the team at one time. But that was just in the attack. And in the defense it was Ramos. In the defense, there were some players who are a lot recognizable. But the team was definitely not balanced. And of course, Lionel Messi was more interested in the World Cup compared to the Ligue 1 title in my opinion, and understandably so. But it was definitely a disappointment for PSG to not be able to win the Champions League title. And let's be honest, the performance was also not like a Champions League-winning team to be honest. And my thinking is that if they were unable to win the title with such good players, how are they going to win the title now?

In this season champions league, if I am not wrong or making unreal assumptions, no one is expecting PSG to win the champions league. Even when predicting likely winners of the Champions League, no one mentions PSG. There was when the expectation of PSG winning the champions league was high and that was when Mbappe joined Neymar in PSG but it failed. When Messi finally joined both Neymar and Messi to form the strongest trio it didn't also happen. So for now no one is tipping that PSG will win the champions league. If they are not even lucky in the draws, they can just exit in the next round. The hope of PSG this season is just their entitlement ligue 1 trophy and why they are optimistic about the trophy is because there is no strong contender on the ligue, if there was, they won't deserve any trophy this season.

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As far as I know the draw for last 16 is going to take place on next Monday. I wish Galatasaray were also a part of it but unfortunately they performed terrible against Copenhagen like it wasn't an important game and this resulted in their elimination from the competition.  Sad  But at least we earned a lot of money during the journey which is important to finance our latest transfers.

I think that Copenhagen won't last any longer in the Champions League by the way. Looking at the group leaders only Real Sociedad can be considered a favourable challenge for them.

But even Real Sociedad have been amazing as they finished their group as the leader in Inter's presence in the same group.  Smiley


Galatasaray really fucked up that day as I never expected a defeat from them by Copenhagen that day. My taught about the game is to end in draw even if Galatasaray didn't win. I welcome Galatasaray to the Europa league play -off, I wish they can perform a little bit well in the play-off to secure a place in the Europa league.

the last game will push any team to go all in. This is the only choice owned by those clubs. They go all in or they go back home. That's why draw would never happen. I think that those clubs were knowing that what's gonna be the consequence when a club has been facing a trouble to pass the knock out stage. I have surprised that to see how galatasaray was not able making it happen. Copenhagen was making a surprise move at the late game. This is also triggering copenhagen to win against galatasaray.
Galtasaray has used everything to defend its position during the game but copenhagen has managed to score a single goal against galatasaray. I will not blame copenhagen but the performance from galatasaray defender is still questionable.
Galatasaray is trying very hard to make it happen but it was not. Manchester untied must go out from everything as it has been placed at the bottom.
Maybe this only happens to clubs that want to win positions to qualify for next round and for clubs that are already safe they won't appear too strong.
For galatasaray who failed to qualify for the next round, it all seemed like an unexpected surprise, whereas at first you would have thought it would end in draw, but Galatasaray defenders were less focused and lost control so they were able to concede a winning score for Copenhagen.
Its okay even if you can't qualify for the CL but you can still continue the hunt for trophies in play-off round

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December 17, 2023, 07:36:28 PM
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We saw even the strongest version of PSG fail in the Champions League and that's why it's not surprising to see this team fail to get anything this season even with a coach like Ennriqu in this team because they had players like Messi and Neymar in this team and but failed the tournament and now PSG lost many players.
That's not a good reason to say PSC achieved the title just because of the new coach they got or just because of the games they won so far because PSG didn't face a strong team so far in the Champions League yet.

Were you expecting something extraordinary from this version of PSG than they did already? You don't expect Mbape to lead them to that stage because he is not even a striker, the club need one as he has always been a wing guy from the start. I notice that he does better when he plays that part instead of playing the whole forward trying to be like Bellingham but he doesn't do much like that and it could or even be because of Messi and Neymar's effects as they are not available in the club to give him all the support he used to have. People like Dembele they are managing got a red card and wasn't around.

They are even lucky to equalise that goal else they might be on their way to the Europa League where they will go and battle the playoff before they meet with Liverpool in the knockout phase again but luckily, they are ahead of Milan with goal difference. My only problem with them is how they are going to do from this stage in the Champions League because they are not yet stable, Dembele is on the red card, and the overall team is not balanced except they are cooking new young players for the club.

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Spain became the country that qualified the most teams to the knockout phase. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Real Sociedad they all won the group. Only Sevilla failed to qualify. While for Germany and Italy only 3 each then England 2. Of course with the condition of Niki the chances of Spanish clubs winning the UCL this season are quite large, but there are many strong teams in this knockout phase. I'm waiting for the knockout phase draw, hopefully there will be a game with a League team or a final too early.

I don’t wish for the final to come too early as it happened last season when the match between Real Madrid and Manchester City was played at the semifinals matchup. It was very obvious that any team that won between those two in the semifinals will be the champions league winners and that was what happened after Manchester City eliminated Real Madrid from the semifinal. I can’t say for now which league teams will make it to the final just yet. The elimination stage draws will decide more on which team would make it far in this competition before getting to the final stage of the competition.

Even though Spain has the most teams that have qualified for the Champions League knockout phase but ya, this factor still won't guarantee that the Spanish team will get the trophy. After all, of that four teams, the only one who really has a chance to go further is Real Madrid because yes, the other three teams don't have as good a chance as Real Madrid to go further at this moment.

After all, even though Germany and England only have a few teams in this knockout phase, but in reality teams like Manchester City, Arsenal, Bayern Munich also have good quality and ya, at least there is still Inter there too. Therefore, even though Spain has more teams in this knockout phase but still, not all Spanish teams have a good chance.

Yes, although Spain has more clubs in the playoffs, it will be very tough for a club from Spain to win the UCL. Real Madrid has the best chance of winning the UCL from the clubs from Spain. I think the clubs with chances of winning the UCL are Manchester City, Arsenal, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich. I don't see any other team winning UCL.

However, anything can happen in football at any team. Inter might surprise everyone like last season and actually win the whole thing this time. PSG are also struggling a little bit. Manchester City are also struggling recently. If they fail to come back to their old forms before the playoffs begin and if they are matched up against a strong team, they might be eliminated as well.

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December 17, 2023, 08:32:58 PM
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The Spanish reams this season did took the champions league really serious and it's really interesting that except for one team, they all made it to the round of sixteen which shows how well they have performed so far because they had some tough team in the group stage and were able to win them and made it pass the group stage.

This has made the chances of a Spanish team winning the champions league even much bigger than usual because they have most of their teams already made it passed the group stage, England has a smaller chance with only two teams who are currently struggling in their domestic league to win matches, although some of the Spanish teams like Real socidad isn't really good at their domestic league aswell but in the UCL they try to do way better than they would in the domestic league recently, I'm hopping by the time the draws for the round of sixteen is out they should all be ready to play well for the trophy.

I think it will be difficult for us to predict, especially since the draw for the round of 16 has not yet been held. even though the team from the Spanish League has 4 representatives, that doesn't mean the other teams will be easily defeated because there are only a few contestants in this competition. I think in any case, City is still worth considering even though their performance is a little less than optimal in the Domestic League. but in reality, they didn't play badly. and I am also very sure that Pep prioritizes the Champions League trophy to be defended this season.

As for Arsenal, I'm not really sure about Mikel Arteta's squad. but at least, they have competitive ammunition and are worthy of being considered as opponents who can make things difficult for any team. apart from that, the only German representative who is really a favorite is Bayern Munich. I think Tuhchel is very aware of how to win the title in this competition. in other words, they will further strengthen their team squad. maybe by bringing in some new arrivals, as well as City and Arsenal. Well, because this is still just an assumption and speculation, we will find out later after the schedule for the draw for the last 16 of the 2023-24 Champions League will be held this Monday. after that, we can see the teams that will face each other. but personally, I still prefer City even though they are not my favorite team. Well, let's just make sure it's time for the round of 16 to be held.

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December 17, 2023, 08:33:10 PM
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PSG struggled to win tickets to the Champions League knockout round. PSG's performance in past matches was not convincing. The representative of Paris only earned 8 points after 6 games, the worst performance in nearly 20 years. By only ranking 2nd in the group stage, PSG can meet Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Real Sociedad, Manchester City, Atletico Madrid, or Barca in the knockout round. Coach Enrique's team must play very hard in this round.

After six matches, Mbappe scored three goals. However, Mbappe's performance recently is still criticized. He must remember that as captain, he must set an example and pay attention to the overall play. But he hasn't shown it yet.
The decline in sharpness experienced by Mbappe made it difficult for PSG to perform optimally in securing points, it was clear that Luis Enrique squad really needed luck to qualify from the group phase. In fact, if you look closely they have very good bargaining value in Group F because they have better squad depth than Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle. If the results of the last 16 draw pit PSG against one of the favorite teams, it is likely that they will be eliminated early and return to their home in Paris.

With a star studded squad, Enrique has not been able to produce a promising performance, which could make us dare to bet on their victory. Enrique task is very difficult to carry out the ambitions of club officials who demand that he be able to bring the UCL trophy home to PSG glass cupboard. His managerial career is at stake, because if he fails, PSG management will not hesitate to end his tenure and look for a new successor.

PSG's mentality in the Champions League always changes every season. This season PSG has good players with great talent, but their performances are still not very impressive. Of course it is still possible to hope that PSG can improve its performance this season with the depth of its squad, but in my opinion everything is very difficult.

So far I don't think PSG is one of the teams that can win the title in the near future, but that doesn't mean they can't achieve it. PSG still has to try hard and make good use of the market to bring in players who are truly quality and fit their needs, meaning not expensive players but whose game is just enough. They need an experienced squad, especially in central midfield and that must be prioritized.

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December 17, 2023, 08:34:38 PM
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PSG somehow managed to make it to last 16 phase and they should be thankful for Milan about that. Because if Newcastle kept their advantage and won then PSG were about to say goodbye to the Champions League. However I'm not expecting a big achievement from PSG here this season. Their performance so far hasn't been convincing for that at all.

This isn't the Ligue 1. Maybe they are dominating their domestic league but here the challenge is much more serious. They had a group of death and they were nearly joining the Europa League.

The team effort must be improved much more. Mbappe can't carry this team most of the time in this competition - especially against top contenders.

PSG is just not good enough to actually win the Champions League trophy. I do not care how good they are in Ligue 1. They are not good enough to win the Champions League. And I have always said that they are never going to be ready for the Champions League because they always play in easy mode throughout the whole season. If they do not have any competition to face throughout the whole season, how are they expected to do well when they eventually face good competition in the Champions League? If you play the whole season in easy mode you cannot do well when you face bigger competition.

We saw even the strongest version of PSG fail in the Champions League and that's why it's not surprising to see this team fail to get anything this season even with a coach like Ennriqu in this team because they had players like Messi and Neymar in this team and but failed the tournament and now PSG lost many players.
That's not a good reason to say PSC achieved the title just because of the new coach they got or just because of the games they won so far because PSG didn't face a strong team so far in the Champions League yet.
I think everyone has similar thoughts about PSG. What I will point out will be more interesting. So, if PSG surprises this year and reaches the semi-finals or finals, will this success be Enrique's success? Maybe if such a thing happens, Mbappe will stay in the team and with a few great transfers, PSG will be one of the favorites next year. This probability is very low, but what if it happens? That's when PSG can catch fire again.

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December 17, 2023, 08:43:37 PM
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I think Bayern Munich has less of experience enough to be considered the favourite to win the champions league but Real Madrid is even much more experienced and have got what it takes to be able to win the league again as they have won it three times in a row so their probability for me is much higher that others.
When it comes to Champions League experience, Real Madrid is an excellent team that can perform above any other team because they have won the title more than any other team that’s why they are considered the favorites to win the league, but Manchester City and Bayern Munich are also strung to be considered as favorites.


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Bayern Munich is a good team no doubts, they have aswell have a very good squad depth and even strength and so does Manchester city and Real Madrid so I wouldn't agree with the idea that Manchester city is currently the strongest team. They may have performed so well at the group stage and lost no game at the group stage but I still think at this round of sixteen more of the abilities and capacity of each team will be further reveled so I'm been careful to not be too assertive with the abilities of these teams. But personal I think the winners of the UCL lays between Manchester city and Real Madrid.
I think we need to start considering other teams to win the Champions League also because there are other teams like Arsenal that have good teams that can be considered as a threat to some of these teams even though they don’t have enough experience to face these big teams, because anything can happen in football.

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December 17, 2023, 08:43:53 PM
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Spain became the country that qualified the most teams to the knockout phase. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Real Sociedad they all won the group. Only Sevilla failed to qualify. While for Germany and Italy only 3 each then England 2. Of course with the condition of Niki the chances of Spanish clubs winning the UCL this season are quite large, but there are many strong teams in this knockout phase. I'm waiting for the knockout phase draw, hopefully there will be a game with a League team or a final too early.

I don’t wish for the final to come too early as it happened last season when the match between Real Madrid and Manchester City was played at the semifinals matchup. It was very obvious that any team that won between those two in the semifinals will be the champions league winners and that was what happened after Manchester City eliminated Real Madrid from the semifinal. I can’t say for now which league teams will make it to the final just yet. The elimination stage draws will decide more on which team would make it far in this competition before getting to the final stage of the competition.

Well, whatever happens, I hope Real Madrid is not the team that will get knocked out of the semi-finals. I want Real Madrid to reach the finals. Because without Real Madrid, instead of the times it is generally not very fun watching the final of the Champions League. I want to see Real Madrid in the finals because they can do some amazing things. Amazing comebacks that generally other teams might not be able to do. Manchester City is not performing well in the English Premier League right now. I wonder if they will be able to continue performing well in the Champions League. Whatever happens on the other end, I want Real Madrid to be in the final.

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December 17, 2023, 08:50:52 PM
 #12858

Currently bookies are showing Bayern Munich as a bigger favourite than Real Madrid for the Champions League title. However I'm thinking exactly the opposite here. It seems like they are missing an important point while determining the biggest favourites of the title. They are overlooking the fact that Real Madrid have won this title the most and by far compared to their latest competitor in this.

In addition Real Madrid became champions here 5 times in the last 10 seasons. Isn't this record worth being shown as the second biggest favourite at least?  Grin

I can understand them about making Manchester City the biggest favourite. It is obvious that they are the strongest team in the competition right now.

Making Manchester City the favorites? Can they see how they've been playing so far this season? Manchester City has lost some quality players and failed to replace them very well. Having Pep Guardiola is already a plus for Manchester City you can't write them off. They don't have that moral they had last season. It's not about how far though, it's how well. Manchester City can do the impossible.

Is it about winning 5 times? For me I'll agree because they don't have a proper number nine. Joselu is not the man to win them the Champions League. Jude Bellingham doing well as a false nine but how well will he be able to do that? The Central Forward position is something they need to consider.

Bayern Munich I can agree easily, they have a good goal scoring player ( Harry Kane. ²⁰ League goals already for the club ). I expect them to make some solid additional players though whenever the transfer window begins in the next ¹⁴ Days.

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December 17, 2023, 09:16:17 PM
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Spain became the country that qualified the most teams to the knockout phase. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Real Sociedad they all won the group. Only Sevilla failed to qualify. While for Germany and Italy only 3 each then England 2. Of course with the condition of Niki the chances of Spanish clubs winning the UCL this season are quite large, but there are many strong teams in this knockout phase. I'm waiting for the knockout phase draw, hopefully there will be a game with a League team or a final too early.

I don’t wish for the final to come too early as it happened last season when the match between Real Madrid and Manchester City was played at the semifinals matchup. It was very obvious that any team that won between those two in the semifinals will be the champions league winners and that was what happened after Manchester City eliminated Real Madrid from the semifinal. I can’t say for now which league teams will make it to the final just yet. The elimination stage draws will decide more on which team would make it far in this competition before getting to the final stage of the competition.

Well, whatever happens, I hope Real Madrid is not the team that will get knocked out of the semi-finals. I want Real Madrid to reach the finals. Because without Real Madrid, instead of the times it is generally not very fun watching the final of the Champions League. I want to see Real Madrid in the finals because they can do some amazing things. Amazing comebacks that generally other teams might not be able to do. Manchester City is not performing well in the English Premier League right now. I wonder if they will be able to continue performing well in the Champions League. Whatever happens on the other end, I want Real Madrid to be in the final.
Real Madrid is amongst the top four teams expected or projected to make it to the finals of the UCL without much doubts. They have held onto their champions league formula for winning and qualifying to the next stage without much hassle and that's what has made the difference in the team overtime.
I doubt Arsenal or any English side would win them if they get to lock horns in any of the final matches of the UCL, and that's because they have the formula for these kind of matches.

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December 17, 2023, 09:26:12 PM
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Regardless of the judgement of whether he is a good coach or a bad coach I think for now it is not very useful.
The situation now is that Manchester United have failed in the group phase will not be in the Europa League play offs either because of their position at the bottom of the table which makes the EPL club's steps tarnished for the Champions Leaegue title because this season there are 2 representatives who do not qualify and are at the bottom of the table.

Manchester United seems to have definitely understood the current situation and it would be very naive if there was no action on this so I think sooner or later Ten Hag's position in the coach will not be safe at this time even though previously many Manchester United officials and legends still continued to support Ten Hag as coach but now it seems that this will be very different in terms of the results received by Manchester United at this time.

and some people still support him now. He has strange politics, I agree, but there is a feeling that MU can still compete for top 5 in the EPL, that would be a good result. I understand that fans want to win, but at the moment winning the EPL is almost unrealistic. Let's see what MU will show us in the match against Liverpool
He has his own privileges and indeed it seems that the higher-ups still really like Ten Hag which we know is very absurd even though as a football connoisseur (not as a United fan) we can see that what he has done this season has shown failure but there is still a lot of defence from the higher-ups which makes it a little complicated to stress that he must go.

For the Champions League at the moment we have found 16 clubs that qualify for the next phase but looking at the standings that occurred in the group phase, there are several clubs that I think this will be interesting in the drawing later because for position 2 currently there are names PSG, Inter, Napoli and Leipzig which I think this could be interesting for the knock out phase later because we will be presented with several big matches from the start.

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