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April 19, 2024, 11:45:58 AM
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Don't underestimate Bayern, Arsenal are also in very good shape and everyone said that they have the best results, but they couldn't beat Bayern. Now Real beat City and will think that they did the hardest job, but Bayern cannot be underestimated, they have very good players, and if Kane and Bayern could reach the final it would be great.

In the other semi-final, PSG is stronger, we have already seen two matches between these teams in the group stage, and I think the superiority of PSG was obvious. Atletico decided to play open football at Borussia Dortmund in the second match, and it ended in defeat for them. Enrique will not allow this to happen, he pays a lot of attention to defense, but Barcelona showed that their defense is not ideal either.
No one should underestimate Bayern, they are already in the semifinals, which means they are better than the other teams who were eliminated earlier, but we also have to be realistic in looking at the overall strength of the two teams and I think Real Madrid is much more favored to advance to in the final compared to Bayern, that's natural because Real Madrid is superior in everything compared to Bayern this season.

For PSG and Dortmund's semi-final match, PSG is indeed a little stronger than Dortmund, but PSG's performance is very inconsistent so this creates a space for Dortmund to take advantage of, and in fact I think that for the semi-final match everything will be different and most likely will be quite balanced so no It can be denied that the two UCL semifinal matches this season will be very fierce.
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April 19, 2024, 11:50:45 AM
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I watched the match and it was noticeable that the red card greatly affected Barcelona's efficiency, despite its brilliant performance with only ten players. It was clear that Barcelona became disorganized after Araujo left due to exclusion.
This was a dream come true for Paris Saint-Germain to achieve excellence and qualify for the next league. The goal difference was not very wide, however, and all analysts in sports publications, in addition to club experts, confirmed that PSG would have been far from winning this victory had it not been for the fatal foul that caused Araujo's elimination. The same analysts confirmed that Barcelona's chances of winning would not have been diminished by the exclusion of one player, regardless of his position or performance, if the opposing team had not been PSG.

In my opinion, PSG did not perform well in that match and even when Barcelona played with a full squad of course we could see how PSG was very troubled by the attack carried out by Barcelona, but indeed the red card made Barcelona helpless and had to surrender from PSG in the match, I am quite sure if Barcelona did not get a red card in that match of course we would see a match dominated by Barcelona And maybe we will see Barcelona who will be Dortmund's opponents in the semi-finals instead of PSG.

Even after Barcelona received a red card and was forced to continue with a reduced number of players, its performance was considered somewhat acceptable and it can be said that it held on. Imagine if any other team was facing PSG with only ten players, what would the result be? PSG, of course, was not ready for this surprise and moved its tactic from focusing on the defense area to attacking with full numbers after ensuring that Barcelona would not be able to approach its goal in any way because it would automatically move to defense to cover up the numerical shortage of players.

I agree with your last position that PSG would not have performed well if Barcelona had maintained its full number of players. But as you know, in football, efficiency is not always the dominant factor because luck may play the biggest role. PSG was lucky this time in one of the most important matches of the tournament.

 
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April 19, 2024, 11:58:04 AM
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Even after Barcelona received a red card and was forced to continue with a reduced number of players, its performance was considered somewhat acceptable and it can be said that it held on. Imagine if any other team was facing PSG with only ten players, what would the result be? PSG, of course, was not ready for this surprise and moved its tactic from focusing on the defense area to attacking with full numbers after ensuring that Barcelona would not be able to approach its goal in any way because it would automatically move to defense to cover up the numerical shortage of players.

I agree with your last position that PSG would not have performed well if Barcelona had maintained its full number of players. But as you know, in football, efficiency is not always the dominant factor because luck may play the biggest role. PSG was lucky this time in one of the most important matches of the tournament.
Luck sometimes plays a very important role in any game, including in the world of sports such as football. As happened with Liverpool who failed in the European League even though they were very favored. but Liverpool were unlucky there. In fact, it really doesn't make sense to see Liverpool always missing the target every time they attack and have a good chance. And Barcelona here was also unlucky because they had to lose 1 player when victory was before their eyes after winning since the first leg and also winning early in the first half of the second leg. But unfortunately, after losing players, Barcelona had difficulty maintaining the balance of their team.

And PSG here is lucky. Honestly, their performance is not much different from Barcelona. Even when Barcelona had 11 players we could see that Barcelona could make better attacks and Barcelona's performance looked even more convincing. Meanwhile PSG they only became more comfortable in the game after Barcelona lost players. But PSG actually always almost scored a goal, even since the first leg. but they always have less than good accuracy. And the ball always fails to reach the target by deviating slightly from the goal. But in the end luck came to PSG and managed to make Barcelona lose by a big score in the second leg. However, PSG still deserved to advance to the semi-finals.











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April 19, 2024, 12:36:41 PM
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Anyhow. Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:



No surprise here, Real is now the favourite with odds of x2.40

Bayern must beat Real Madrid first, and then PSG (most likely) to get the title, and PSG must have an easy walk with Dortmund (compared to the game with Real, but in general it is natural that Dortmund also has a chance) and then beat Real/Bayern in the final. At the same time, the odds of PSG and Bayern are assessed as almost equal. Am I the only one who thinks these quotes are crooked?
It seems to me that Real Madrid and PSG are undervalued, which means betting on them has value.

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April 19, 2024, 01:48:05 PM
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Bayern must beat Real Madrid first, and then PSG (most likely) to get the title, and PSG must have an easy walk with Dortmund (compared to the game with Real, but in general it is natural that Dortmund also has a chance) and then beat Real/Bayern in the final. At the same time, the odds of PSG and Bayern are assessed as almost equal. Am I the only one who thinks these quotes are crooked?
It seems to me that Real Madrid and PSG are undervalued, which means betting on them has value.
It is very difficult for Bayern Munich to do that, because Real Madrid is not a team that can just be beaten, but that doesn't mean their chance is lost, they still have a chance, just not bigger than Real Madrid. This season, Bayern Munich is considered to be experiencing a decline, which makes them a little doubtful in this match, although we cannot guarantee that Real Madrid will perform perfectly in this match.
In the first leg, Bayern Munich will host Real Madrid first. They must be able to make the best use of this match, and victory is the result they must achieve in this match. If they can't win, then they will have a more difficult task in the second leg because they have to play as the visiting team. And we know that when Real Madrid play at home, they are always scary for their opponents. There is no other choice for Bayern Munich in this match, they cannot afford to lose or even a draw will weigh them down.

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April 19, 2024, 01:52:04 PM
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Anyhow. Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:



No surprise here, Real is now the favourite with odds of x2.40

Bayern must beat Real Madrid first, and then PSG (most likely) to get the title, and PSG must have an easy walk with Dortmund (compared to the game with Real, but in general it is natural that Dortmund also has a chance) and then beat Real/Bayern in the final. At the same time, the odds of PSG and Bayern are assessed as almost equal. Am I the only one who thinks these quotes are crooked?
It seems to me that Real Madrid and PSG are undervalued, which means betting on them has value.

You are right about Bayern Munich must beat Real Madrid in the first leg of the game, if Bayern Munich did not beat Real Madrid in the first leg of the match it’s over for Bayern Munich because Real Madrid will defeat Bayern Munich in Santiago bernabeu qualify to final round of champions league, but the way I’m looking at this season champion league Real Madrid is the favourite to win this champion league, I know we are talking about football here and anything can happen but what I want us to understand in this season champion league is that a team that struggle to defeat Manchester City is definitely going to win this champion league and since the day Real Madrid eliminate Manchester City, every body believe that Real Madrid will win the league.

Although this champion league is full of surprises, the team that you expect to win will be the one to lose, but I think Real Madrid is different from the other teams , I believe in Real Madrid with 90% of winning the champion
League title, Bayern Munich performance is not good as Real Madrid own, Bayern Munich qualify for semifinal by defeating arsenal with one goal, so from my point of view Real Madrid is defeating Bayern Munich.

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April 19, 2024, 02:17:27 PM
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No surprise here, Real is now the favourite with odds of x2.40

Bayern must beat Real Madrid first, and then PSG (most likely) to get the title, and PSG must have an easy walk with Dortmund (compared to the game with Real, but in general it is natural that Dortmund also has a chance) and then beat Real/Bayern in the final. At the same time, the odds of PSG and Bayern are assessed as almost equal. Am I the only one who thinks these quotes are crooked?
It seems to me that Real Madrid and PSG are undervalued, which means betting on them has value.

You are right about Bayern Munich must beat Real Madrid in the first leg of the game, if Bayern Munich did not beat Real Madrid in the first leg of the match it’s over for Bayern Munich because Real Madrid will defeat Bayern Munich in Santiago bernabeu qualify to final round of champions league, but the way I’m looking at this season champion league Real Madrid is the favourite to win this champion league, I know we are talking about football here and anything can happen but what I want us to understand in this season champion league is that a team that struggle to defeat Manchester City is definitely going to win this champion league and since the day Real Madrid eliminate Manchester City, every body believe that Real Madrid will win the league.

Although this champion league is full of surprises, the team that you expect to win will be the one to lose, but I think Real Madrid is different from the other teams , I believe in Real Madrid with 90% of winning the champion
League title, Bayern Munich performance is not good as Real Madrid own, Bayern Munich qualify for semifinal by defeating arsenal with one goal, so from my point of view Real Madrid is defeating Bayern Munich.
I have already concluded the moment that the draw was made for the quarter finals, when I saw that Real Madrid is playing Manchester city. I said that whoever wins the match will become the winner of the champions league this season because no club will be as strong as two of them.

So now that it is Real Madrid that won City, then I don't think anyone will be able to stop them. Bayern Munich will not be able to win Real Madrid in Germany, because they are not inform, and it is not that one that they managed to win Arsenal, that they will play with Real Madrid who is always ready to net the post.

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April 19, 2024, 02:40:25 PM
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I have already concluded the moment that the draw was made for the quarter finals, when I saw that Real Madrid is playing Manchester city. I said that whoever wins the match will become the winner of the champions league this season because no club will be as strong as two of them.
Because they belong to strongest clubs in Champions League so a winner in their direct matches, will have good chance to far in Champions League and win the title. It happened in previous seasons and might happen again in this season. After Manchester City, Real Madrid will meet another familiar opponent, Bayern Munich.

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So now that it is Real Madrid that won City, then I don't think anyone will be able to stop them. Bayern Munich will not be able to win Real Madrid in Germany, because they are not inform, and it is not that one that they managed to win Arsenal, that they will play with Real Madrid who is always ready to net the post.
Bayern Munich are not weak and they are familiar with Real Madrid through many matches with each other in history. Real Madrid will have two other difficult matches with another strong opponent. A winner will be decided by not much big difference like the quarter finals between Real Madrid and Manchester City. Kane will fight for a first title in his career after failure in Bundesliga. If his first title is Champions League, it is a big milestone for him and decision to leave Tottenham Hotspur is a good one.

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April 19, 2024, 02:40:40 PM
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Bayern Munich performance is not good as Real Madrid own, Bayern Munich qualify for semifinal by defeating arsenal with one goal, so from my point of view Real Madrid is defeating Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich and Real Madrid both played against the two strongest English teams currently and even though Real Madrid was able to put off a stronger performance than Bayern Munich, we should not forget that the same arsenal that Bayern could not play well against is the same team that Manchester City that played Real Madrid found unable to defeat this season in their local league. Bayern still have a chance of winning Real Madrid, some of the injured key players from their team may be available by then, and then they have Harry Kane.

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April 19, 2024, 02:57:18 PM
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The interesting match in the Champions League was the quarter-final match between Real Madrid and Manchester City. Perhaps we will not see another match in the Champions League as competitive as Manchester City and Real Madrid in the quarter finals. In the first match, Manchester City went to Real Madrid's home ground and drew with Real Madrid. In that case, we thought that when Real Madrid played at Manchester City's home ground, Manchester City might advance. But the opposite happened in the second leg match Real Madrid confirmed the semi-final by defeating Manchester City at their home ground. It can certainly be called a tough revenge for last season as Liverpool's Champions League dream ended last season with a defeat to Manchester City. Of the four teams now in the semi-finals, I am considering Real Madrid and PSG for the final. Because Bayan Munich will not compete with Real Madrid at all, on the other hand, even if Dortmund does well, maybe PSG will make it to the final.

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In my opinion, what made Arsenal eliminated from the Champions League was that they didn't have a good enough mentality when competing in the Champions League. Arsenal has indeed had quite a good performance this season in the Premier League but I think they don't really have a winning mentality yet because they haven't even won the Champions League trophy yet.
I also want to say almost the same thing, of course I agree Arsenal don't have a good mentality in the Champions League. Arsenal have built their squad well in the last few seasons, but they don't have much experience in the Champions League so they have to learn a lot from their failures this season to perform better next season.

I think Arsenal will become more established over time if Arteta is still their coach. There are many players who are starting to have a lot of experience and they will develop a good mentality by learning from failure. There is still a very long way to go and Arsenal will probably prove themselves in a few seasons, but yes I think mentality is the most influential thing in their competitiveness in big competitions.

Bayern Munich will play against Real Madrid in the semifinals, and I think this will be quite a tough match for both of them. Both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have quite a tough mentality. However, if I had to choose one, I predict that Real Madrid will qualify for the final round.
The meeting record between the two teams can basically make Real Madrid's head puff up. I mean, Real Madrid has a good record when they meet Bayern Munich, that means Real Madrid has its own advantage to be the favorite to go to the final this season. Bayern Munich certainly has a chance to beat Real Madrid, but it is difficult.

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April 19, 2024, 03:03:32 PM
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Likewise, Real Madrid players Vinicius Junior and Bellingham were also unable to score against Manchester City, even in their 2 meetings this season in the Champions League, Rodrygo became Man of the match for Real Madrid because he was able to score goals in their 2 legs without Rodrygo. Maybe Real Madrid couldn't compete on penalties with Manchester City, Real Madrid's victory was because luck was on Real Madrid's side through penalties, but with this I also realized that the performance of Manchester City and Real Madrid was actually equal.
In this match it could be said that their respective strikers did not perform well, Man City could not get more contribution from Haaland and Madrid also did not get much contribution from Vinicius because they were both closely guarded by Vinicius x Wlaker and Haaland x Nancho. . Therefore Man City has no other choice but to rely on Foden and Bruyne, who have the character of being able to attack and also have the advantage in creating opportunities for their teammates, while Haaland is more busy trying to escape from Nancho control. At several moments Haaland and Nancho had an argument and got into a physical fight which ultimately resulted in Nanco getting a yellow card. This is all part of Ancelotti's ingenuity to disrupt the balance of Man City attack. I think from the start this was Ancelotti's plan because he realized that Rudiger had to guard the other side of Grealish and Bruyne movements.

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I have already concluded the moment that the draw was made for the quarter finals, when I saw that Real Madrid is playing Manchester city. I said that whoever wins the match will become the winner of the champions league this season because no club will be as strong as two of them.
Both teams are the biggest in Europe in terms of quality players and experienced coaches. But we still have some teams that could stand as a barrier for Real Madrid to go to the finals. Bayern Munich is a club that shouldn't be underestimated. They were able to defeat Arsenal which is a team made up of some of the best young players in the world. They also have a good coach who is desperate to prove the club management wrong. I think Thomas Tuchel will do everything possible to make Bayern management regret letting him go at the end of the season. The good thing about the UCL games is that each club has the chance to re-strategize since they have two legs for each level of the competition.

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So now that it is Real Madrid that won City, then I don't think anyone will be able to stop them. Bayern Munich will not be able to win against Real Madrid in Germany, because they are not inform, and it is not that one that they managed to win Arsenal, that they will play with Real Madrid who is always ready to net the post.
I don't think many people believed that Barcelona would lose against PSG after they won the first leg in Parc des Princes. I expected the game to at most end in a draw in Camp Nou which would make the Spanish side progress to the semi-finals. And Barca got the first goal and I was sure that they would be in the semis. But a single event which is the red card received by Ronald Araujo changed the sequence of the game which gave PSG an undeserved victory. Such events can happen in football so we cannot be certain that a club will win even if it is against a perceived weak side.

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April 19, 2024, 03:19:51 PM
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In my opinion, what made Arsenal eliminated from the Champions League was that they didn't have a good enough mentality when competing in the Champions League. Arsenal has indeed had quite a good performance this season in the Premier League but I think they don't really have a winning mentality yet because they haven't even won the Champions League trophy yet.
I think the mentality that Arsenal showed in yesterday's match against Munich was quite good. Yes, sometimes luck can also be a factor. The reason is that Arsenal has tried their best for that match. I saw that Arsenal goalkeeper David Raya's performance was very good in that match because Raya blocked many of Munich's attacks. Do you always say that the losing team doesn't have a winning mentality? Look at their struggle from the start to their last match. Is that not part of a winning mentality, if they really don't have a winning mentality, maybe they won't qualify for the next round from the start.

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April 19, 2024, 03:57:17 PM
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It was a night when Bayern Munich lived up to their assertions that, when the Champions League comes around, they were an altogether different beast. Bayern Munich were into the final four of the Champions League with Joshua Kimmich's second-half header after winning 1-0 against Arsenal, giving them a 3-2 aggregate victory. Arsenal's European dream is over - and the Gunners' focus is back on the Premier League.

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April 19, 2024, 03:58:39 PM
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No one should underestimate Bayern, they are already in the semifinals, which means they are better than the other teams who were eliminated earlier, but we also have to be realistic in looking at the overall strength of the two teams and I think Real Madrid is much more favored to advance to in the final compared to Bayern, that's natural because Real Madrid is superior in everything compared to Bayern this season.
Apart from Real Madrid and Manchester City, I think Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to win the Champions League title this season. So it's true, no one will underestimate Bayern Munich in the semifinals this season even though Real Madrid is basically the favorite team to enter the final. Bayern Munich also has the experience and squad depth to beat Real Madrid, but that alone will not be enough to hope for victory because Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League title and is full of experience and mentality.

For PSG and Dortmund's semi-final match, PSG is indeed a little stronger than Dortmund, but PSG's performance is very inconsistent so this creates a space for Dortmund to take advantage of, and in fact I think that for the semi-final match everything will be different and most likely will be quite balanced so no It can be denied that the two UCL semifinal matches this season will be very fierce.
Luis Enrique finally succeeded in proving his capacity as an experienced coach in the Champions League. He managed to play interesting football with different teams, but PSG are not the main favorites to win the title. PSG can beat Dortmund and qualify for the final, but it will be very difficult for PSG to win the title if Real Madrid is the opponent. Real Madrid have never failed to win the title as long as they have reached the final, so it is unlikely that PSG can win their first title this season.

Of course there are possible scenarios that could see Luis Enrique win the Champions League title this season with PSG, but this is never easy. Real Madrid is a team that really has quality and mentality, even if Bayern Munich is in the final it will also be equally difficult for PSG to thwart Tuchel's title plans in the Champions League.

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April 19, 2024, 04:04:33 PM
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madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Real Madrid have certainly performed well, Manchester City have performed well throughout the season. Relying on luck alone, this Real Madrid win, with every player in the Manchester City team capable. But two goals were accidentally missed due to which Manchester City team lost, but in the main game phase 112 minutes of performance, Manchester City team was ahead. If you notice just one difference, you will understand how strong the Manchester City team was. Manchester City had 33 kicks against the goal post in total and Real Madrid only 8.
Even though many people say that Real Madrid won and qualified for the semifinals based on luck, in my opinion, it's not just relying on luck, Anceloti has smart tactics, he knows that if Real Madrid doesn't get a draw, Man City will take advantage of the situation by playing at home as winners, so from Madrid kept its defense tight, making it difficult for Man City to score goals, even though Man City took many shots but only 1 of them was scored as a goal.

Real Madrid only recorded 8 shots compared to Man City, but this shows how great Anceloti's intelligence is by applying strategy to his players, even the penalty kick taken by Real Madrid was successful in bringing them to the semifinals and eliminating Man City, which is something to be proud of even though Man City is a strong club. in attacking but intelligence and experience are very important in delivering the right attack.

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April 19, 2024, 04:04:53 PM
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In my opinion, what made Arsenal eliminated from the Champions League was that they didn't have a good enough mentality when competing in the Champions League. Arsenal has indeed had quite a good performance this season in the Premier League but I think they don't really have a winning mentality yet because they haven't even won the Champions League trophy yet.

Bayern Munich will play against Real Madrid in the semifinals, and I think this will be quite a tough match for both of them. Both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have quite a tough mentality. However, if I had to choose one, I predict that Real Madrid will qualify for the final round.

You are right because like I already mentioned champions league is a league that involves experience but Arsenal on the other hand are very good in performance but lack champions league experience because majority of their players are mostly young stars and they have not been on champions league more often compare to Barcelona, so even when Arsenal draw their first match with Barcelona I was even surprise because all my mind was that since Barcelona has been very good and experience in terms of champions league they would easily win Arsenal but they managed to play draw on the first match.

However with the  way Barcelona has peak form on the middle of this season surprises me so if they could play this good with their current players I wonder how far they will go when will they buy more experience players, however their match against Real Madrid will be the most toughest match on the champions league semifinals because all the interest will be on that Match because people are curious to know what the outcome will be.

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April 19, 2024, 04:07:11 PM
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Obviusly Real Madrid is right now the main contender to the title but in this stances we can expect some shaking results also someones for PSG or Bayern side, they have the players to do that, but need the teamwork and recover the faith in themselves in the case of Bayern for example, and Tuchel knews this.

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April 19, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
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Having good performance in the domestic league will not guarantee good progress in the Champions League and that is what Arsenal is currently feeling. They were quite promising when they managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw in the first leg, but what happened in the second leg when they faced Bayern Munich fans, the Gunners were unable to do anything. Practically, Bayern Munich can win with certainty and even though it is only by 1 goal, that is enough to make Arsenal despair.

Another surprising thing is that Bayern Munich under Tuchel's guidance this season has been so bad and strangely Arsenal still can't beat them. However, if we talk about history and winning mentality, of course Bayern Munich still won a landslide victory over Arsenal. Well, I can't wait to see Bayern Munich who will face Real Madrid in the semifinals and it will be a match that will be missed after approximately 6 years of the two teams never facing each other again.
Bayern Munich is playing at home and in terms of strength they are quite equal to Arsenal so I think Bayern Munich's victory and progress to the semifinals is quite natural because mentally they are much better than Arsenal.

What happens in the domestic league will of course be a little different from in the Champions League, especially when facing teams from different leagues, of course there are many differences so that what happens in the domestic league cannot be used as a benchmark, and in fact Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga is not too bad they just can't maintain consistent performance and if we look at strength I think Bayern Munich this season is quite strong.
The semi-final match between Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid will continue to be fierce as has happened in the past, these two teams have a rivalry in the Champions League and I don't see Bayern Munich's decline in the Bundesliga anymore because of course after failing to defend the Bundesliga title that motivates Bayern Munich much bigger to win the Champions League title this season.
You're right regarding Bayern's mental toughness against Arsenal's problems. Arsenal is hard to see. They've been Champions League ghosts since the 2006 final misery. The Aston Villa loss showed major composure issues. How can you stand tall against Bayern if you bow under pressure against weaker teams? Bad look.

Bayern, on the other hand, have been inconsistent and falling in the Bundesliga. Their desire to prove themselves after missing the league title? This is risky in Champions League. That chip-on-your-shoulder energy causes upsets. When discussing a Bayern-Real Madrid semi-final? Ignore it. This historic rivalry between two powerhouses is explosive. Bayern's steely drive could beat Real.

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