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May 03, 2024, 04:48:17 PM
 #23221

Dortmund is a more composed team,and they will remain composed even the second leg of the game.PSG have no chance of qualifying,and i dont think they will be able to get two goals at  their home against a solid side like Dortmund.
The game would have been in their favour if they had drawn the first leg of the encounter,but they allowed Dortmund to win them first leg,and that is why i think there is no magic about it again.If it were to be madrid or Mancity,i would have said there is a possibility because they are the only teams that can do magic when it comes to come back.
The second leg will end in a draw,and Dortmund will get to the finals of the champions league and might even win it.
If you say that Dortmund was calmer in this Champions League match, maybe I would agree because whatever the result, Dortmund is not really prioritizing the title but rather giving experience to the players that Dortmund has so they can be sold at a high price.
But if you say PSG has no chance of qualifying for the final round and Dortmund has a chance when they only get 1 aggregate score, in my opinion you are very wrong here.
Try to look more deeply at how the two clubs are performing and compare more deeply the players they have, whereas 1 aggregate score doesn't guarantee anything and you have to see how PSG played away from home to get rid of Barcelona at that time.
You also have to see how PSG is now after Enrique became coach. PSG has had a lot of changes and is more consistent than Dortmund.
I'm willing to bet that if PSG will qualify for the final round, Dortmund will not go home as a failure.

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May 03, 2024, 04:59:28 PM
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hahahahah what? How in the hell Dortmund have higher chances of qualifying than PSg because they only win by one goal in his home game? Man i dont think football work in that way, this is a 180 minutes game and i dont think P$G is gonna fail in this second match.

For me right now is 60% PSG and 40% dortmund.

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May 03, 2024, 05:00:02 PM
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I agree with you that it was lucky that was not on PSG side on that day, if not they would ha e equalized the goal, as we saw three good opportunities that was could not go through the goal post. PSG will definitely play to win the match, and they have all the time to turn things around to their favor in France. On the other hand Dortmund can still go to France and hold on to their ground by not allowing PSG to out play them no matter that they are playing away from home, and still draw the match in order for them to qualify to the finals. Dortmund has a high advantage than PSG based on goal aggregate.
In the second leg, both teams actually have their own advantages that they will bring. Dortmund carries the advantage because it has excelled on aggregate. Meanwhile, PSG will be favored in the second leg because PSG will play as hosts. But PSG's task will not be easy either. Because in the second leg PSG must succeed in scoring at least 2 goals without conceding. And this is not an easy task.

All teams are strong in home matches. Even though PSG didn't win the away match, I wouldn't say their overall gameplay was bad. PSG players tried to score, but they could not break Dortmund's strong defense. Dortmund were very confident in the home match. And after scoring first, Dortmund kept their defense tight. And with some defensive play, the team secured a comfortable 1-0 win. However, as PSG are only 1 goal behind, PSG still have a strong chance of qualifying for the final with a home win.


Meanwhile, for the Real Madrid vs Bayern match, Real Madrid is actually in a better position. Because Real Madrid managed to hold Bayern to a draw in the first leg, it was also a positive step. Because Real Madrid only needs to win in the second leg when Real Madrid will be more confident playing in front of their own supporters. The mentality of the Bayern players will be tested in the second leg. If Bayern is not affected then Bayern will definitely continue to play as well as in the first leg.

Bayern Munich performed brilliantly in the first leg match. But I would say Bayern Munich failed to win this match due to Ancelotti's excellent match strategy. Toni Kross and Vini performed brilliantly in this match. However, the performance of Bayern Munich players was also very good. We got a chance to enjoy a wonderful match. Real Madrid will play at their home in the second leg. Madrid is always very strong at home. Beating Madrid at home will be challenging for Bayern Munich.

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You can say the same with Dortmund that if their players played better, they would have scored more than 1 goal. Both teams created their chances in the match and they have reasons to regret about opportunities which were wasted.

This result will make the semi final in Paris very interesting because PSG will have no choice than attacking. I don't know they will choose a serious attacking approach since the beginning whistle from the referee or they will not be too hurry with attacking. The second tactical approach is safer for PSG because it can help them to pay attention on defense and don't allow Dortmund to do many considerable and dangerous counter attacks.
I think Luis Enrique just needs to improve the team's mentality instead of just hoping his strategy will be useful in the second leg. The team must be given high motivation to beat any opponent, and this must all be reflected in how PSG handles pressure from Dortmund. Of course this is something Luis Enrique has to think about if he wants his team to qualify for the final, but I agree that improving the team's mentality is not enough to just say something.

All players must have the same ambitions and game plan, that means they must give everything they have so that the targets they want to achieve can become a reality. Anything is still possible for PSG who are only 0-1 behind in Germany, so they must maximize their home advantage to successfully qualify for the final.

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May 03, 2024, 05:11:39 PM
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hahahahah what? How in the hell Dortmund have higher chances of qualifying than PSg because they only win by one goal in his home game? Man i dont think football work in that way, this is a 180 minutes game and i dont think P$G is gonna fail in this second match.

For me right now is 60% PSG and 40% dortmund.

I think, PSG can qualify for the semifinals also only because of luck because in the second leg Barcelona only played with 10 players but anyway, the reality is that PSG always falls behind first. So, if for example PSG no longer get the same luck for the second leg against Dortmund later, then PSG will also still fail. But indeed, as a home team in the second leg later, PSG will still have a chance to win because of course, the 1-0 aggregate is really a score that is not entirely safe. So indeed, I also admit that PSG still has a chance to win but for some reason, I think Dortmund will still be able to maximize the aggregate victory it has.

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May 03, 2024, 05:12:25 PM
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I believe in PSG. Bigly. We've seen them pull off miracles, like that comeback against Barcelona - fantastic game. But Dortmund is a tough opponent. We cant bank on another red card to turn things around. Now, playing at home, thats a HUGE match. And Enrique, the guy's a tactical genius. He'll have the plan. Thing is, those chances we create? We gotta start burying them. No more messing around. The heart, the skill, its all there. I know they can show us what they're made of.
Dortmund is good that is true but not like Barca and the goal difference to turn things around here is still fewer than that of barca game, actually what PSG need is for Luis Enrique to come up with a good tactics and Mbappe being able to play well, then we will be seeing psg in the final this season.

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May 03, 2024, 05:17:46 PM
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I agree with you that it was lucky that was not on PSG side on that day, if not they would ha e equalized the goal, as we saw three good opportunities that was could not go through the goal post. PSG will definitely play to win the match, and they have all the time to turn things around to their favor in France. On the other hand Dortmund can still go to France and hold on to their ground by not allowing PSG to out play them no matter that they are playing away from home, and still draw the match in order for them to qualify to the finals. Dortmund has a high advantage than PSG based on goal aggregate.
The 1 goal advantage currently held by Borussia Dortmund is good capital for them in the second leg, as long as they can play solidly and are not easily penetrated by the opponent's attack line. I think their focus in this match will be on Mbappe because we know that Mbappe is one of the players who has a lot of influence on Paris Saint Germain's game, and Paris Saint Germain itself has a very high dependence on Mbappe.
Realizing this, Paris Saint Germain should have been able to anticipate this, so they could have implemented another strategy when Mbappe really couldn't move. They can use Mbappe as a lure to get other players on the front line. This strategy is actually nothing new, because many teams also apply this strategy, it's just that there are teams that are successful with this strategy, there are those that are not, so Paris Saint Germain must be able to implement this well if they want to be in the final.

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May 03, 2024, 05:31:05 PM
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I still don't think Real Madrid and PSG are the favorites after the first matches of the semi-finals. They were seen as favorites before the matches, but after the matches we saw that Bayern and Dortmund still had strong odds, and Dortmund even had the advantageous score in the first match. It is difficult to predict what the name of the final will be, but all 4 teams can be finalists and they are strong enough to beat each other.
Well talking about favorites for the UCL finals, before the first leg of the semifinals alot of us saw PSG and Real Madrid being the major favorites for the finals but I think after the first leg match, the whole narrative is beginning to change. This is what football is all about as it’s very unpredictable till after the final whistle.

 ⁠Real Madrid started quite on a good note in the semifinals agu and Bayern Munich though they looked like the underdogs as Bayern were able to exploit on their weaknesses. In all Real Madrid were able to at least get a draw while they head to the Bernabeu for the return leg and this puts them in a comfortable position to qualify.
 
 ⁠As For Psg they’re a goal down already as you can see how they totally lost the midfield battle in the first leg aganist Dortmund and you’ll just imagine how much of energy they will have to put into the second leg. Well they’ll be playimg infront of their home fans so all hope isn’t lost yet as they can still be able to turn things around.

 Well football is really unpredictable but if you check the form of these clubs, you’ll know for sure that the possibility of a ReAl Madrd and psg final is pretty quite possible and has more chance of becoming a reality. I think these clubs in the final will even help UEFA to sell out more than any other final.
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May 03, 2024, 05:36:38 PM
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hahahahah what? How in the hell Dortmund have higher chances of qualifying than PSg because they only win by one goal in his home game? Man i dont think football work in that way, this is a 180 minutes game and i dont think P$G is gonna fail in this second match.

For me right now is 60% PSG and 40% dortmund.

I think, PSG can qualify for the semifinals also only because of luck because in the second leg Barcelona only played with 10 players but anyway, the reality is that PSG always falls behind first. So, if for example PSG no longer get the same luck for the second leg against Dortmund later, then PSG will also still fail. But indeed, as a home team in the second leg later, PSG will still have a chance to win because of course, the 1-0 aggregate is really a score that is not entirely safe. So indeed, I also admit that PSG still has a chance to win but for some reason, I think Dortmund will still be able to maximize the aggregate victory it has.

Honestly, PSG's performance was not that bad in the first leg. The club has been showing very consistent performance by gradually attacked dortmund through various angle. PSG was only unlucky enough in the previous game. I strongly believe people who watched it was also thinking the same. Imagine if mbappe's shoot was not hitting the bar.
It would be helping PSG to get draw against dortmund. It's only matter of time for PSG to do revenge in the second leg. PSg may be using everything owned by the club in order to win against dortmund soon. I do really appreciate how PSG was performing even better.
The second leg is gonna be a very harsh game for PSG for sure. I strongly believe in it.

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May 03, 2024, 05:58:14 PM
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hahahahah what? How in the hell Dortmund have higher chances of qualifying than PSg because they only win by one goal in his home game? Man i dont think football work in that way, this is a 180 minutes game and i dont think P$G is gonna fail in this second match.

For me right now is 60% PSG and 40% dortmund.

At the moment, bookmakers quote the teams' chances of reaching the final as follows:

PSG - 1.74
Dortmund - 2.10

As you can see, PSG's chances are higher (and significantly) despite the fact that Dortmund has a one-goal advantage.
I also assume that PSG will be able to surpass Dortmund in the end, but +74% in this case does not seem to be adequate compensation for the risk. In the end, a draw is enough for Dortmund to reach the final.

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May 03, 2024, 06:02:32 PM
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I agree with you that it was lucky that was not on PSG side on that day, if not they would ha e equalized the goal, as we saw three good opportunities that was could not go through the goal post. PSG will definitely play to win the match, and they have all the time to turn things around to their favor in France. On the other hand Dortmund can still go to France and hold on to their ground by not allowing PSG to out play them no matter that they are playing away from home, and still draw the match in order for them to qualify to the finals. Dortmund has a high advantage than PSG based on goal aggregate.
The 1 goal advantage currently held by Borussia Dortmund is good capital for them in the second leg, as long as they can play solidly and are not easily penetrated by the opponent's attack line. I think their focus in this match will be on Mbappe because we know that Mbappe is one of the players who has a lot of influence on Paris Saint Germain's game, and Paris Saint Germain itself has a very high dependence on Mbappe.
Realizing this, Paris Saint Germain should have been able to anticipate this, so they could have implemented another strategy when Mbappe really couldn't move. They can use Mbappe as a lure to get other players on the front line. This strategy is actually nothing new, because many teams also apply this strategy, it's just that there are teams that are successful with this strategy, there are those that are not, so Paris Saint Germain must be able to implement this well if they want to be in the final.
I think both teams played really well in the last meeting, PSG had bad luck in that game, three of their goals were denied by the woodwork, least they would've led by two goals advantage, but the reality remains that Dortmund has the goal advantage. They did well to repel the PSG team so strongly that their only attempts were from a distance. Definitely, PSG players needs to be more crafty if they  want to get any positive result from the encounter.

Mbappe was imprisoned in the last match, and I expect a repeat and even more from the return leg. PSG should naturally be more comfortable as they play from home, Dembele should increase his accuracy and stop gambling with rare chances like he did in last games.

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May 03, 2024, 06:11:04 PM
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I believe in PSG. Bigly. We've seen them pull off miracles, like that comeback against Barcelona - fantastic game. But Dortmund is a tough opponent. We cant bank on another red card to turn things around. Now, playing at home, thats a HUGE match. And Enrique, the guy's a tactical genius. He'll have the plan. Thing is, those chances we create? We gotta start burying them. No more messing around. The heart, the skill, its all there. I know they can show us what they're made of.
Dortmund is good that is true but not like Barca and the goal difference to turn things around here is still fewer than that of barca game, actually what PSG need is for Luis Enrique to come up with a good tactics and Mbappe being able to play well, then we will be seeing psg in the final this season.

A lot of people want to see a German final this season... Bayern vs Dortmund would be a really exciting event... But I think Real will definitely play in the final... I don't know how PSG will play the home game and whether they can score two goals without conceding, but I'm sure Madrid will show who's boss at home...
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A lot of people want to see a German final this season... Bayern vs Dortmund would be a really exciting event... But I think Real will definitely play in the final... I don't know how PSG will play the home game and whether they can score two goals without conceding, but I'm sure Madrid will show who's boss at home...
Not only I believe that Real will play in the finals and they will beat Bayern, but I also believe that PSG will beat Dortmund as well. The possibility of a Real Madrid versus PSG game is a lot higher than a Bayern versus Dortmund finals if you ask me. I know that Dortmund managed to win, and that's why many thinks that there is a possibility that PSG will be gone this leg, but I think they have what it takes to win and they are going to play a lot better on the second game.

This must mean that they are going to either win by two goals at least, or they will just score one goal difference, and then the game will go to extra time, which I think PSG will still be able to do better because they have a younger squad who can play for longer.

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May 03, 2024, 07:27:22 PM
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I believe in PSG. Bigly. We've seen them pull off miracles, like that comeback against Barcelona - fantastic game. But Dortmund is a tough opponent. We cant bank on another red card to turn things around. Now, playing at home, thats a HUGE match. And Enrique, the guy's a tactical genius. He'll have the plan. Thing is, those chances we create? We gotta start burying them. No more messing around. The heart, the skill, its all there. I know they can show us what they're made of.
Dortmund is good that is true but not like Barca and the goal difference to turn things around here is still fewer than that of barca game, actually what PSG need is for Luis Enrique to come up with a good tactics and Mbappe being able to play well, then we will be seeing psg in the final this season.

A lot of people want to see a German final this season... Bayern vs Dortmund would be a really exciting event... But I think Real will definitely play in the final... I don't know how PSG will play the home game and whether they can score two goals without conceding, but I'm sure Madrid will show who's boss at home...

The final between two German teams was indeed very interesting and this could happen again, like a few years ago where Bayern Munich played Dortmund and at that time Bayern Munich was the champion. But it won't be easy considering that Bayern Munich still has a very tough match to play at the Santiago Bernabeu, Real Madrid's headquarters, and I think there is no chance for Bayern Munich to advance to the final.

On the other hand, if it is Dortmund, it is possible that they will still be able to get to the final and beat PSG in the second leg, especially since they are in a positive trend after winning in the first leg and I am sure that PSG is currently under serious pressure and it will not be easy to recover quickly.

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I think, PSG can qualify for the semifinals also only because of luck because in the second leg Barcelona only played with 10 players but anyway, the reality is that PSG always falls behind first. So, if for example PSG no longer get the same luck for the second leg against Dortmund later, then PSG will also still fail. But indeed, as a home team in the second leg later, PSG will still have a chance to win because of course, the 1-0 aggregate is really a score that is not entirely safe. So indeed, I also admit that PSG still has a chance to win but for some reason, I think Dortmund will still be able to maximize the aggregate victory it has.
PSG can still hope for a lot in the second leg of the semifinals at home, of course that's because they only need to overcome a 0-1 deficit as a temporary aggregate. The problem that needs to be avoided is, they must avoid conceding additional goals from Dortmund in the second leg. If PSG concedes another goal in the second leg, then they will have to try to score 2 goals to force Dortmund into extra time, but PSG is believed to be able to complete its mission this season to qualify for the final.

I admit that PSG is not the favorite team that is expected to qualify for the final since this season started, but in the end they can open many eyes to accept the fact that PSG has the possibility of getting it. If they qualify for the final, then Luis Enrique has really made a big impact on the team even though he couldn't win the title.
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I believe in PSG. Bigly. We've seen them pull off miracles, like that comeback against Barcelona - fantastic game. But Dortmund is a tough opponent. We cant bank on another red card to turn things around. Now, playing at home, thats a HUGE match. And Enrique, the guy's a tactical genius. He'll have the plan. Thing is, those chances we create? We gotta start burying them. No more messing around. The heart, the skill, its all there. I know they can show us what they're made of.
Dortmund is good that is true but not like Barca and the goal difference to turn things around here is still fewer than that of barca game, actually what PSG need is for Luis Enrique to come up with a good tactics and Mbappe being able to play well, then we will be seeing psg in the final this season.

A lot of people want to see a German final this season... Bayern vs Dortmund would be a really exciting event... But I think Real will definitely play in the final... I don't know how PSG will play the home game and whether they can score two goals without conceding, but I'm sure Madrid will show who's boss at home...
Currently, situation is very interesting because we are having all four teams into event with all possibilities are also on cards even now things are in Real Madrid and PSG favor but as we are having history and results of the matches in last few seasons we can expect both German clubs can go through for the final.
But its funny game with Mbappé is also playing his last season at the PSG, and we are having Real Madrid at his best, so all will be done their best to have spot into final Luis Enrique is having first season at the PSG which is also dream start of his career here so if he wins this could be historic moment for the both parties, but we are having few days so wait and watch is also good option right now.

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I believe in PSG. Bigly. We've seen them pull off miracles, like that comeback against Barcelona - fantastic game. But Dortmund is a tough opponent. We cant bank on another red card to turn things around. Now, playing at home, thats a HUGE match. And Enrique, the guy's a tactical genius. He'll have the plan. Thing is, those chances we create? We gotta start burying them. No more messing around. The heart, the skill, its all there. I know they can show us what they're made of.
Dortmund is good that is true but not like Barca and the goal difference to turn things around here is still fewer than that of barca game, actually what PSG need is for Luis Enrique to come up with a good tactics and Mbappe being able to play well, then we will be seeing psg in the final this season.
Dortmund is a team that is outstanding no matter if they are in the midst of teams that has had strong reputation in the UCL. I trusted them last match to win at their home and i am still trusting them to win away against PSG. Although many persons said it was through luck they had scored that one goal, and that PSG had more possession in the game but i always tell them it's not all about who plays with the ball more often or who have the highest passes and attempts in the game but who won at the end.

Next week is at the corner and i can't wait to look at the faces of PSG fans. Definitely PSG played well during the quarter finals, but they have less put less effort in the semifinals that is why i prefer Dortmund to win.

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May 03, 2024, 07:50:39 PM
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I think, PSG can qualify for the semifinals also only because of luck because in the second leg Barcelona only played with 10 players but anyway, the reality is that PSG always falls behind first. So, if for example PSG no longer get the same luck for the second leg against Dortmund later, then PSG will also still fail. But indeed, as a home team in the second leg later, PSG will still have a chance to win because of course, the 1-0 aggregate is really a score that is not entirely safe. So indeed, I also admit that PSG still has a chance to win but for some reason, I think Dortmund will still be able to maximize the aggregate victory it has.

Despite playing with 10 against 11, Barcelona defended with good effort, it took a lot of time for PSG make those goals they scored after the red card. I just think that PSG nerve lose a single game to Dortmund from their last 5 games played at home, I'm expecting them to repeat the same performance here as well, because if they can be bold enough to only defeat only a goal when they visited Dortmund, they can shame Dortmund by the time they visit their home.

There has been some news about Mpape one house of an ex footballer in Spain, that means his move to Real Madrid is still certain but before then, I want to see how the reactions is going to look like by the time he win the Champions League. I want to see the reaction on the faces of Madrid when the player they desire so much take a league title before them.

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May 03, 2024, 08:41:08 PM
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I don't expect the final between Bayern vs Dortmund to happen because it will be an uninteresting final, indeed in football the impossible can become possible if there is luck. But if this happens, maybe this will be a boring UCL final.
Besides it is not interesting, I doubt that Bayern Munich can defeat Real Madrid at Santiago Bernabéu. Bayern Munich can't defeat them in Allianz Arena, how they can win in Bernabéu? Personally, I don't see a chance for Bayern Munich in the final of UCL. Real Madrid should play in the final because the Leg 2 will give them a big advantage by playing at own stadium. So, it is very unlikely to see Bayern Munich in the final UCL this season.

Meanwhile, PSG will of course make a comeback in the second leg because they are playing at home, PSG's performance in the first leg was actually very good, it's just that they were lucky.
I also assume this to happen in Leg 2. PSG may come back at their own stadium, the aggregate is only 1-0, it is not a significant difference. Even if PSG failed to score in Leg 1, I see they have a big chance to score some goals in Leg 2. The ideal final Real Madrid vs PSG is still possible to happen if PSG can play more effectively in Leg 2.


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I think Luis Enrique just needs to improve the team's mentality instead of just hoping his strategy will be useful in the second leg. The team must be given high motivation to beat any opponent, and this must all be reflected in how PSG handles pressure from Dortmund. Of course this is something Luis Enrique has to think about if he wants his team to qualify for the final, but I agree that improving the team's mentality is not enough to just say something.

All players must have the same ambitions and game plan, that means they must give everything they have so that the targets they want to achieve can become a reality. Anything is still possible for PSG who are only 0-1 behind in Germany, so they must maximize their home advantage to successfully qualify for the final.

We agree on this one, Paris Saint Germain actually played well. Unfortunately, PSG players panic easily and they don't calm down when under pressure. Mentality problems are a real problem for PSG, Luis Enrique has homework to fix it. some players are not suitable to play with their consistency, Enrique should replace them. It's not easy, especially as we discussed in this thread. I'm sure that Enrique actually knows the problems in his team's squad, but it seems that he needs other efforts so that the match progresses as expected.

As for ambition, it seems we don't need to discuss it. This is the most elite league compared to the competition in the European League. Moreover, Ligue 1. Well, in the second leg, Paris Saint-Germain has a big chance to win the match to overthrow Borussia Dortmund. Apart from playing in front of their own supporters, support poured in to make the PSG squad even more enthusiastic and motivated. Moreover, it is supported by the odds provided by the bookie. In the second leg, PSG was far superior to Dortmund. My question is whether Dortmund will play openly or Edin Terzic will choose to play defensively and counter-attack when PSG is off guard. To be sure, we are waiting for the second leg of the match to be held.


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