Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

[Woodie]

In my years of being on the forum, I have actually seen Newbies who are not Newbies because they are knowledgeable about cryptocurrencies and the forum, which tells me that we cant get everything at face value, just like the saying you can not judge a book by its cover!

But when it comes to things like forum rules , post quality etcetera I honestly don't expect these guys to act as experts when they haven't hang around the forum long enough.

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[Lida93]

I saw this post and I laughed because I have seen so many newbies trying hard to advise tye forum on some certain things which they ought not to do. Although it does not mean that all newbie account meant that they don't know anything about Bitcoin or about the reality of life but it would be funny and surprisimg to see newbies trying to advise people on making the right investment plan that shows a big misconception.
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It's like a just employed staff that's rather trying to introduce and explain to the older staff before him about the office environment and how things should be done within the organization such behavior would raise an eyebrow from the old staff which could make them think that you're unteachable as you already knows it all.

Newbies should always learn to give themselves some time. No matter what they have read iin the forum at their quiet time, allow it sink down, contemplate over and over again at what you have learned and don't jump all out to come lecture the house.
Keep piling up the knowledge adding it to tat you already got before your membership of community that's how you grow faster.
The former will puts you in a radar where members may question your authenticity of an actual newbie or not.

[GiftedMAN]

But when it comes to things like forum rules , post quality etcetera I honestly don't expect these guys to act as experts when they haven't hang around the forum long enough.

I think knowing the forum rules isn't really a problem to some newbies and teaching it for others is not a problem too because for someone who's new anywhere aside the forum here ought to know the rules and regulations guiding the place or the organisation he or she is into before venturing into other things. No newbie will talk about post quality in some of their teaching because the person will be considered as an old member who's building an alt but don't you think someone who's very conversant with good spoken English and has knowledge of vocabularies can detect when someone is using wrong grammar or a post with low quality? how long does it take a user to stay on the forum before the person can understand a post with good quality to me I think sticking around the forum for a long time and consistent follow up to some users post can help even a newbie to understand when a post is of good quality.

[Asuspawer09]

The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.

I mean I get your point here since they are still newbies here in the forum, the assumption here is they still newbies are they doesnt have enough knowledge or experience in the forum and in the cryptocurrency space as well. But I dont think is right to assume that newbies doesnt have knowledge since this forum is not the start of their journey, probably most of the newbies here are just getting started on cryptocurrency but sure not all of them are beginners to cryptocurrency space sure there are some that already have a lot of experience and already an expert that is just a newbie here in the forum.

But for sure the thing here because we see a lot of newbies commenting and teaching other people on a discussion where newbies' posts just doesnt make any sense at all. I mean if that's the case we could easily just report it as spam right? Since that post just doesnt make any sense at all. But as a newbie, if your post is really helpful and you know what you're actually saying, we can easily see through it on their post. So just report newbies that spam some nonsense I guess.

[lousie9]

But I dont think is right to assume that newbies doesnt have knowledge since this forum is not the start of their journey, probably most of the newbies here are just getting started on cryptocurrency but sure not all of them are beginners to cryptocurrency space sure there are some that already have a lot of experience and already an expert that is just a newbie here in the forum.

You're right and it is true that not all beginners in this forum are really beginners in the crypto world, but there are some beginners who already have good experience, knowledge and references or maybe better than us or members who have high rankings here but they just found and joined in this forum.
Even though sometimes I also have strange thoughts and feel that it's not as natural as what the OP feels, but then I think again as long as a comment or suggestion given by a beginner still makes sense and it doesn't deviate from the related discussion and the most important thing is it doesn't violate forum rules that have been set then that's okay in my opinion, everyone has the right to discuss here.

But for sure the thing here because we see a lot of newbies commenting and teaching other people on a discussion where newbies' posts just doesnt make any sense at all. I mean if that's the case we could easily just report it as spam right?

Yes we can easily report them. But I'd prefer for them to fix their mistake before actually reporting it as a spammer. if we see a suggestion or comment from someone that doesn't make sense and seems inconsequential, then we just correct it or give him input or maybe criticism so he can fix his mistakes, but if we see that it doesn't change several times then just report it as a spammer.
Everyone can definitely judge which people are really trying to grow or people who are just spamming. Someone who always gives careless and unreasonable comments or suggestions or spam, in my opinion they will be left behind and will never develop.

[Princess_Devi]

Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:

That because I think most newbies think posting that kind of things can gain more merits. Because when I come here as a newbie, I checked out old posts and I saw few gets 1-2 merits for posting that kind of guides. So, I think those who new here think that posting that kind of topics here will give them few merits easily. Btw the way your example pic is another level  , Thumbs up for that..

[Sexylizzy2813]

The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

Do you know that some newbies are really not newbies? They know better than some high ranked members and is really hard to tell who's really a newbie because these days I believe members are on disguise just to play a game of hide and seek, like not letting out their identity.
So in this case the suppose "newbies" have the knowledge of either trading and other stuff you think they're suppose to learn, and learning is for everyone no matter your rank, a newbie can educate you on what you feel you know much better.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Do you know that some newbies are really not newbies? They know better than some high ranked members and is really hard to tell who's really a newbie because these days I believe members are on disguise just to play a game of hide and seek, like not letting out their identity.
So in this case the suppose "newbies" have the knowledge of either trading and other stuff you think they're suppose to learn, and learning is for everyone no matter your rank, a newbie can educate you on what you feel you know much better.

I agree, some people have very good knowledge of trading but they didn't sign up in this forum, when they create account so we will call him newbie (in term kf Bitcointalk) while he has a good knowledge than of crypto and investment ideas more than a legendary. I think the best knowledge we could learn is from our practical experience and newbie with could gives advice on trading according to past experiences (either lost or win).

I agree with this point that newbie should focused more on learning more than a teaching and once he learned well then he will be able to gives correct advice and will not mislead others but this is only for those newbie who has no previous experience.

[promise444c5]

Guess Op word are coming to me indirectly and unexpectedly  fen I should change my posts .

Alright  for newbies what areas and aspect are you suggesting them to post not forum now but topics to be precise

[Sexylizzy2813]

Do you know that some newbies are really not newbies? They know better than some high ranked members and is really hard to tell who's really a newbie because these days I believe members are on disguise just to play a game of hide and seek, like not letting out their identity.
So in this case the suppose "newbies" have the knowledge of either trading and other stuff you think they're suppose to learn, and learning is for everyone no matter your rank, a newbie can educate you on what you feel you know much better.

I agree, some people have very good knowledge of trading but they didn't sign up in this forum, when they create account so we will call him newbie (in term kf Bitcointalk) while he has a good knowledge than of crypto and investment ideas more than a legendary. I think the best knowledge we could learn is from our practical experience and newbie with could gives advice on trading according to past experiences (either lost or win).

I agree with this point that newbie should focused more on learning more than a teaching and once he learned well then he will be able to gives correct advice and will not mislead others but this is only for those newbie who has no previous experience.

The major concern is, we shouldn't always use our ranks to judge anybody that's in this Forum, you can be a legendary member but you lack the knowledge about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. Are you saying that if you see a newbie that you don't know from nowhere comes to give you advise on how to trade and you noticed he's good at it, are you saying that you won't let him teach you? You would of course.
Let's put it this way, we have every right to learn from anybody no matter who that person is or how low the rank of that member is, as long as the information is useful. The main thing is to get what you think you're lacking to improve your knowledge the more.

[Antotena]

Guess Op word are coming to me indirectly and unexpectedly  fen I should change my posts .

Alright  for newbies what areas and aspect are you suggesting them to post not forum now but topics to be precise

There is nothing bad if you make threads but if you must, make sure they are quality thread that people are going to enjoy and learn meaningful information.
Many newbies are guilty of this, they little to none knowledge about what they write, instead of them to sit, read and have the knowledge of what they are writing, they source small information and create threads that may end up with corrections from people that understands it better than them and that's bad of newbie to be embarrassed writing about what they don't know.

So instead of creating threads that are not useful or lack useful information, focus on getting the knowledge and then write one when you gain the knowledge. You may not even need to create threads, reply posts can ge  you the merits worthy of posts.

[Abu-Naim]

Do you know that some newbies are really not newbies? They know better than some high ranked members and is really hard to tell who's really a newbie because these days I believe members are on disguise just to play a game of hide and seek, like not letting out their identity.
So in this case the suppose "newbies" have the knowledge of either trading and other stuff you think they're suppose to learn, and learning is for everyone no matter your rank, a newbie can educate you on what you feel you know much better.

There are newbies that new to cryptocurrency entirely and this forum might be their first place to have access to learning something legit about bitcoin and crypto, if such newbies ask question, it is always good to help and support them because that is the sole purpose of this forum. On the other hand, there are newbies to this forum but have some experience and knowledge about bitcoin and crypto trading, they are just here to build account and interact with other crypto experts on somethings related bitcoin.

Creating new thread by some newbies to be teaching or given guide on somethings they are suppose to be learning in the forum is mostly for the sake of merits to rank up because some of them think that we must create thread that help the forum members in order to get merits and rank up.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Do you know that some newbies are really not newbies? They know better than some high ranked members and is really hard to tell who's really a newbie because these days I believe members are on disguise just to play a game of hide and seek, like not letting out their identity.
So in this case the suppose "newbies" have the knowledge of either trading and other stuff you think they're suppose to learn, and learning is for everyone no matter your rank, a newbie can educate you on what you feel you know much better.

There are newbies that new to cryptocurrency entirely and this forum might be their first place to have access to learning something legit about bitcoin and crypto, if such newbies ask question, it is always good to help and support them because that is the sole purpose of this forum. On the other hand, there are newbies to this forum but have some experience and knowledge about bitcoin and crypto trading, they are just here to build account and interact with other crypto experts on somethings related bitcoin.

Is really good to express how you feel about something especially things you don't know about but whenever you have that opportunity to share that idea you have about something say it without hesitating because you might not know who you're helping.
Some of these members who come online just to talk more about crypto should continue talking more about it and even making it look like a seminar, like let the conversation be more helpful especially to those who wants to engage in trading or investing, but using this word shouldn't be implied (newbies stop teaching) it kills their morale, let them say what they have to say and you put them through too, to me I see many newbies who are desperate to say something about what they know concerning trading or investment.

Creating new thread by some newbies to be teaching or given guide on somethings they are suppose to be learning in the forum is mostly for the sake of merits to rank up because some of them think that we must create thread that help the forum members in order to get merits and rank up.

I still ask, what if some of these newbies knows more than we think? Let's leave the rank newbie aside, don't you think some of these newbies might know what they're doing but some of us find it hard to acknowledge what they have to offer because they're called newbies?
Forget the merit and ranking up, some don't have that in mind not that the merit and rank up ain't important in the Forum but they have this aim of talking more about crypto than having merit to rank up (like some don't even know how some certain things works in the Forum), can't say what we all have in mind but some don't care about the merit, that's what I think.

[Out of mind]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

If it is about forum, I agree that newbies shouldn't teach others because they actually have just started to know forum. When they teach others, they may lose their focus or share something they don't really understand. Other people can misunderstand it, or people got unproven knowledge. This is something too early to do by newbies.

Contributing on the forum can be varied, it is not only about the knowledge about forum. Newbies can share their experience on the other field (out side of forum), everyone must have their own experience to share with others. If it is about the experience on trading or investment, I still can trust newbies. Newbie accounts don't always mean newbie trader or newbie investor.


*I assume sharing isn't intended to teach others.

Well I must say this, most of these newbies are well to do in knowledge about this platform. I have seen many newbies here who really knows their ways around this platform and for the first time making posts at the right board which means that some also know the right board and tell me if a newbie could make just a first post on the right board, does this not tell you something?  Some newbies possibly are in the know how things works here, some are fast learner while some are otherwise.

From what I can see here the tag newbie limits them to sharing their experience no matter how vast they are in knowledge about the platform as long as you have the tag newbie you are limited and therefore you are assumed not to know much and would be advised to learn.

Well, there are some newbies who know the right place and how to post, and they post in the right place. I also think that maybe they have enough knowledge, that's why they try their best to post in the right place and qualify. It's true that basically a newbie doesn't know much about anything and might already have a good idea of the forum, that's why they go to the right board and post. There are many such newbies who know about everything and how to proceed, they also have enough skills and have a prior idea about what forums are. I have noticed a lot of newbies who talk about bitcoin and trading in different ways in order to qualify. And what platforms they have good knowledge about, so they may not be called newbies they are very knowledgeable but in the forum they want to convince people as newbies. But there are some newbies who don't understand the forum can be explained and taught about everything.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Truth is, most newbies have important things to share, like they've experiences to teach others from and most times, more reference is made on the ranks and not the message. Most ranked up members may intentionally ignore the posts of newbies just because they're newbies. Worst case scenarios, may even  put them on ignore.
Lemme be blunt here, a lot of newbies are actually practicing what they may have learned for a while and they need practice to be perfect. Some of their posts are informing, the only problem is that they've not learnt how to properly construct and format their posts effectively. We will be better with time, please just let us breath some fresh air cos its not easy trying to belong in a forum as massive as this.

[Arenga pinnata]

I personally prefer to give freedom to those beginners. As long as they understand what they are actually conveying. If they talk like an expert and advise many people, it turns out that the beginner really has zero experience and minimal insight. Then something like that is completely unacceptable.

Only share things we are really good at. It doesn't matter if you are a beginner or not. But if you have high insight regarding crypto and there is someone who needs an answer, then answer them according to the insight we have.

But one thing you must always remember is to obey all the rules on this forum. finished.

[CryptSafe]

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.

If it is about forum, I agree that newbies shouldn't teach others because they actually have just started to know forum. When they teach others, they may lose their focus or share something they don't really understand. Other people can misunderstand it, or people got unproven knowledge. This is something too early to do by newbies.

Contributing on the forum can be varied, it is not only about the knowledge about forum. Newbies can share their experience on the other field (out side of forum), everyone must have their own experience to share with others. If it is about the experience on trading or investment, I still can trust newbies. Newbie accounts don't always mean newbie trader or newbie investor.


*I assume sharing isn't intended to teach others.

Well I must say this, most of these newbies are well to do in knowledge about this platform. I have seen many newbies here who really knows their ways around this platform and for the first time making posts at the right board which means that some also know the right board and tell me if a newbie could make just a first post on the right board, does this not tell you something?  Some newbies possibly are in the know how things works here, some are fast learner while some are otherwise.

From what I can see here the tag newbie limits them to sharing their experience no matter how vast they are in knowledge about the platform as long as you have the tag newbie you are limited and therefore you are assumed not to know much and would be advised to learn.

Well, there are some newbies who know the right place and how to post, and they post in the right place. I also think that maybe they have enough knowledge, that's why they try their best to post in the right place and qualify. It's true that basically a newbie doesn't know much about anything and might already have a good idea of the forum, that's why they go to the right board and post. There are many such newbies who know about everything and how to proceed, they also have enough skills and have a prior idea about what forums are. I have noticed a lot of newbies who talk about bitcoin and trading in different ways in order to qualify. And what platforms they have good knowledge about, so they may not be called newbies they are very knowledgeable but in the forum they want to convince people as newbies. But there are some newbies who don't understand the forum can be explained and taught about everything.

When you have the tag newbie, it does not necessarily means you have no idea about the system but for the fact that you are new onboard that platform and any new members always have that tag as a newbie just as it is here. There are lots of newbies here whom I have read through their posts and articles, I can tell they are not new to Bitcoin. At least to some extent, they know a bit more about the system and how it works. Although some newbies take out time to read and learn so that they could get more knowledge before identifying with the system as not to see everything about the system to be strange to them. It is good to do so that it does not looks as if you can not Comprehend the system and how it works.

[Sophokles]

Guess Op word are coming to me indirectly and unexpectedly  fen I should change my posts .

Alright  for newbies what areas and aspect are you suggesting them to post not forum now but topics to be precise

As the OP mentioned he doesn't want to discourage newbies but he made valid points. Many new members tried to make posts about educational content for which they gathered information from google. They tried to teach something that they didn't have expertise in. So it is important for them to first educate themselves and help others with their knowledge. It is important for them to read more than write. 

[Orpichukwu]

Guess Op word are coming to me indirectly and unexpectedly  fen I should change my posts .

Alright  for newbies what areas and aspect are you suggesting them to post not forum now but topics to be precise

Hey buddy, don't feel attacked; it might break you down if you start feeling that a particular thread is a direct attack on you.
 
First, there is nothing wrong with creating a thread that you know has meaning, and if you are confused about something, you can create a thread and ask questions about it; it's normal and it expands our knowledge, but here the OP is focusing on those who still have a lot of things to learn but start up threads to teach their fellow newbies about what they themselves don't know about.
 
The OP's point is that, if you are a newbie, instead of starting a tutoring class, why not look for one and attend yourself to gain that knowledge? As the person might appear to need the knowledge more than anyone else, you can only reach what you know and not what you feel like is meant to be taught. The OP means no harm to you or any other member. The rate at which newbies come up with forum-educating topics is alarming, and most times they end up passing the wrong information, which is misleading.

[Bitcoin_people]

If a person is motivated to do the right thing then never discourage him but rather encourage him. This forum has many discussions for newbies where newbies can learn a lot about investing. There are a lot of posts by newbies on the subject of Bitcoin investing but it's not right to discourage them because of their zero qualifications. This forum is the guide line for newbies from where everyone can get an idea about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency and get some good education. There are many people who talk a lot about newcomers, but I think that person was once a newcomer. Newbies can learn a lot from the forum and they are able to learn all the aspects of Bitcoin and gain better knowledge later on.