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June 20, 2023, 09:46:02 PM
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While what you said is true, let's not forget that there are newbies who have impacted themselves with the knowledge of crypto before joining the forum. They only appear as a newbie in the forum not as a newbie in the crypto knowledge and exposure.

Some newbies have already gotten crypto knowledge elsewhere(social media platforms or the internet) before advancing to the stage they were to be advising other people on what to do or what to do in the crypto space. I have some crypto influencers I have been following off this forum, for quite some time, if you hear them speak or lecture you about crypto, you will marvel at where they got all the knowledge of crypto from. Such types of people can find their way through a friend that will introduce them to this forum by letting them know how the btt forum is(sharing information and lecturing people about crypto) and they might decide to join the forum to dish out their advice to the forum members in a way they can through their few posts.

Having said that, every one of us is free to dish out advice about bitcoin in a manner we can. Whether a newbie or not. We are all here to learn from one another. Being a newbie is for btt accounts not mainly on the amount of crypto knowledge to be judged with
You've salient points there. We do have users like that who already are knowledgeable in Bitcoin coming in here. However, what I don't find funny about such users is their haste to open topics and teach like there's something at stake if they don't teach. Ordinarily, one would expect a certain level of restraint from such newbies so they can observe how things are run here before displaying whatever knowledge they think they've acquired. It's even worse when such users unwittingly display their lack of indepth knowledge on the said issue they purport to teach. I think newbies shouldn't be in a haste to prove anything if they're truly genuine newbies.

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June 21, 2023, 02:16:46 PM
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Indeed, sometimes it's funny to see the posts of beginners in which they broadcast like experienced gurus. In theory, this could actually be because we don't know the background of accounts with 2 activities and 0 merit. In real life, this may indeed be people with fairly extensive knowledge and experience, but in practice, most often, these advisers turn out to be not quite experienced experts. This can be seen from the content of their texts. It's good that OP raised this topic for discussion, because this problem takes place on the forum and I would like that after reading the comments here, newcomers stop pretending to be crypto-gurus (for some, this is simply necessary). It is better to concentrate on enriching your knowledge, instead of teaching others (especially when there is no necessary knowledge for this).
The problem with some newbies is that in every little knowledge that they start to acquire, they already act as if they know the rest so they can be acknowledged and applauded by other members. That is a very wrong mindset because we are not competing here for a reward, but rather we are here to share what we genuinely know so that others may benefit as well. Except for few professional newbies who really know what they are talking about.

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June 21, 2023, 06:50:24 PM
Last edit: June 21, 2023, 07:01:58 PM by Salahmu
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.


I actually aggreed with you OP, I have also seen so many newbies posting how to invest and how investment works, I can't help but wonder how a beginner will be mentoring a member about crypto investment, irrespective of how much a newbie thinks he knows about crypto outside, but in this forum there are people who knows better, everyone in here starting as a newbie and not because they had no knowledge about crypto before coming to this forum, but they focusses on knowing how the forum works and to learn more about crypto before advice could be given from them.


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June 21, 2023, 09:17:53 PM
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This is not to discourage newbies not to teach and share what they have learned, but this is more of a realization that newbies should focus more on acquiring the best of knowledge and develop their full potentials first before they start considering others to learn from them. Although I have no regrets when I did this before, but I realized I can only teach and give the best to them if I have the best knowledge and skills that I have developed within in myself.

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June 21, 2023, 09:48:04 PM
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As an individual, your eagerness to help and share what you have is always our best asset. But did you know that we can only give and best influence others if we are giving them the best version of us. That is the reason why newbies instead of teaching other newbies to learn, just focus on yourself first. Be more encourage to learn and embrace new ideas that will help you grow as an individual and as a member in the forum. Otherwise, your best potentials will never be seen in you especially if your focus is on other people and not on yourself.

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June 21, 2023, 09:59:04 PM
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The simple mistakes that newbies keep making .. I thought it was right to allow them Since the rules on speech liberty gives a huge liverage on anyone that's atleast, registered in here.
Sometimes, they feel they know too much already to be corrected or informed on what to do....that's where it becomes a crime to tell a member on a lower rank what not to do; I always say, it's better to read more than write.
There's no experience that a newbie would ever have more than a long standing member in here - as long as BTT is in the picture. The more you stay in here and study the interface, the more you become confident of what you do.

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June 22, 2023, 10:12:50 AM
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The simple mistakes that newbies keep making .. I thought it was right to allow them Since the rules on speech liberty gives a huge liverage on anyone that's atleast, registered in here.
Sometimes, they feel they know too much already to be corrected or informed on what to do....that's where it becomes a crime to tell a member on a lower rank what not to do; I always say, it's better to read more than write.
There's no experience that a newbie would ever have more than a long standing member in here - as long as BTT is in the picture. The more you stay in here and study the interface, the more you become confident of what you do.

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You are correct mate. When you continue to familiarize with the platform, you get to know more about te platform and how to go about activities here but these newbies are not really patient enough to follow guidelines. They assume they know everything even when they know nothing about the platform even with the newbie tag on them which should tell them where they belong, they still do not see that.
Irrespective of who the newbie account holder is, as long as it is a newbie account, one should know how to compose themselves and learn and not to start creating any form of awareness here.

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June 22, 2023, 01:35:59 PM
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This is indeed very strange, sometimes there are beginners who share tips or advice just to get merit, moreover, they really don't understand the Bitcointalk forum at all and don't have the level of experience or knowledge of crypto. if there are beginners with little knowledge give advice or tips about the technical aspects of this forum, such as improving the quality of posts or how to earn merit. this may seem unreasonable and indeed he should stop behaving like that. Beginners should spend more time studying and reading the forum rules before trying to provide advice or tips.

But there are also some beginners who may be more experienced but he just joined this forum, maybe he used to only focus on traders or investments. if it's like this it doesn't mean he doesn't have knowledge or understanding about certain aspects of the crypto world. If so, I think there is nothing wrong with teaching or sharing his knowledge and experience in this forum. moreover, he really understands about Development & Technical, this is very good for sharing information.
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June 22, 2023, 06:36:02 PM
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However, this does not mean that there are no professional newbies. Any newbie that is pro in bitcoin, trading, mining, altcoins etc are free to give advices or teach even on their first day. The community will appreciate

Yes you are right, and I think it is very easy to identify a newbie with lot's of experience in bitcoin and the other sections that you mentioned but regardless the person will still need some time to go through the forum unless he or she has been involved in a community like bitcointalk else I don't think the person will be able to teach the things that he knows very well for members to understand since it involves writing.

I also think it will appear suspicious to see an account that is a day old in the forum to teach things here especially on the bitcoin discussion board don't you think some members will think the person is an old member ho is trying to build a new alt account since such person has acquired so much knowledge? think about it.

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It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.

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July 12, 2023, 01:44:22 PM
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:


Grin oh gosh this cracked my ribs.

Reminds me of a seminar I attend some time ago about how to make good investments that can make you rich at most a year. Few minutes after the seminar as I was leaving while in a cab, I spotted the speaker from the seminar along the way going home on foot. That's was when I realized myself remembering the acknowledgement that says you can't give what you don't have. In same vein that's how some of our newbies present themselves in the forum through their funny threads.
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It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.
You can't underestimate someone because is a newbie, the newbie that is encouraging other newbies maybe newbie in account of bitcointalk but in knowledge of cryptocurrency is wiser and understandable than someone who is in bitcointalk for one year, I wanted to use this and create a thread but I thought people have made such thread before. We should not underrate anyone who making suggestions of they know because the rank is a lower rank, read the content if its not meaningful you can pass judgement and criticism on the person, currently I have seen a recent newbie in the forum that know better than someone that spent three years in forum, and many people are wondering if the person is someone alt or not, so it may because of the knowledge of the person acquired before coming to forum

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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:


This is one of the reasons why things are easily said than done. Just imagine a newbie teaching on how to gain large view bit still don't have a reasonable views. We need to be wise and think well before writing to teach especially for the newbies who are supposed to be learning not trying to teach to earn merits. Those who understand the consequences of passing wrong information to the public in the name of teaching will understand more especially when they have been a victim one time or the other. It is good we keep learning even though when we know more than the source of the information.









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It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.
You can't underestimate someone because is a newbie, the newbie that is encouraging other newbies maybe newbie in account of bitcointalk but in knowledge of cryptocurrency is wiser and understandable than someone who is in bitcointalk for one year, I wanted to use this and create a thread but I thought people have made such thread before. We should not underrate anyone who making suggestions of they know because the rank is a lower rank, read the content if its not meaningful you can pass judgement and criticism on the person, currently I have seen a recent newbie in the forum that know better than someone that spent three years in forum, and many people are wondering if the person is someone alt or not, so it may because of the knowledge of the person acquired before coming to forum

No one is underrating  newbies because it is possible for some to be a newbie with good knowledge of Bitcoin but I believe the first step should be for the person with knowledge to calm, go through the forum and understand the necessary things first before coming up to teach things that has already be discussed here but that could be in a new way but I still think a newbie with such knowledge should also understand that teaching people things when your account shows that you just got registered few days ago, do you think people will comfortably listen to you without feeling some how? I think it's wise by getting to explore the forum very well and get to know the rulles before you think of creating multiple thread.

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People currently once they learn they think they overcome all the things they need to learn in the world of crypto. Most likely when it comes to an investment, they know some of the investors trying to make a risk in the shitcoins and they courage the newbies to try this too because they know it could be easy money once they hit an early but at the end they didn't make a profit instead they caught with the honeypot trap and even them didn't make a high amount on their investment and trades with this coins.
There's nothing wrong in exchanging details and information but being too much superior with others and getting settled with the knowledge in crypto does not make you more knowledgeable. We are in technology and there's always an innovation.

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It has been really fun reading through the whole content of this thread as I have seen so many funny comments and replies from users.

But I would like to point out the case of many alt accounts created by users to actually surf the forum for better chances of getting benefits here in the forum @campaign services.

There is popular case of an actual user accused of having many alts and although I don't how true this is but I would like to think that these account will be well sound in many forum discussion since the users has already gained knowledge here about the happening in the forum, and plus most newbie are actually crypto gurus before ever finding their way to the forum.

But in all, a large portion of newbie here still fall victims of the actual topic discussed here and its totally understandable why  the op would point this out.

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Ha, finally someone talk about this, I was about to create something like this, because the way newbies are stepping too forward this days are getting annoying, and at the end of the day you will find out that they don't even know much about what they are saying, instead of trying to learn they are the ones doing the teaching, I remember when I first came on this forum, I can't recall how many times my topics are base on questions only, because I don't know many things and I needed answers, which is how I pictured things to be, if you are new on the forum, stay new for a while and learn first.

Not all newbies are like this, very few knows about something before coming on the forum, I don't mean to hurt anyone's feeling saying this but the majority of them believe they know something, even the smartest people keep things to themselves, instead they observe very well, and this is why they grow smarter, learn when you should be teaching, it's the best advice to newbies so far.

OP thanks for creating this wonderful topic about newbies habit, I hope they learn from it.

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However, this does not mean that there are no professional newbies. Any newbie that is pro in bitcoin, trading, mining, altcoins etc are free to give advices or teach even on their first day. The community will appreciate

Yes you are right, and I think it is very easy to identify a newbie with lot's of experience in bitcoin and the other sections that you mentioned but regardless the person will still need some time to go through the forum unless he or she has been involved in a community like bitcointalk else I don't think the person will be able to teach the things that he knows very well for members to understand since it involves writing.

I also think it will appear suspicious to see an account that is a day old in the forum to teach things here especially on the bitcoin discussion board don't you think some members will think the person is an old member ho is trying to build a new alt account since such person has acquired so much knowledge? think about it.

I concur with your opinion mate. Most newbies are possibly more enlightened about bitcoin more than some members here and possibly some too have had experience as a result of their exposure to other platforms so they can easily have their ways on any platform they find themselves which is why most times when you see some newbie operate you would be wondering if that account is an alt account of a high rank member but in the real sense, it is not so.

Nevertheless, of lately I have seen many funny replies to some newbie on this particular board  which did not go down well with them. I was of the opinion same as yours OP that newbies be at calm wether they know or not as long as they have the tag newbies, it Is assumed that they do not know what's up with the platform and as such would be expected to learn how things works here so as not to be called to order. I think this has been the challenges facing newbies here.

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It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.
I think most newbies have this character which they always want to let people know the little they have leant about cryptocurrency,  even if they don't understand it much they just want to give it out . It will be good if newbies can learn more first and not to be in haste to share their knowledge about something that they do not know about. The real thing newbies are suppose to come up with is to share their challenge on things that seems difficult for them to understand about bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.

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July 14, 2023, 10:23:04 PM
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It’s really funny to see some newbies acting like they are highly knowledgeable as legends in the forum. And worst is they end up teaching their co-newbies who are both inexperienced and are less knowledgeable. I just hope that this will serve as an eye opener to them that they are not supposed to teach unless they have gained enough knowledge and experience whom they can share to the newbies in the future. Teaching is good but only for those who have the resources to make it realized.
I think most newbies have this character which they always want to let people know the little they have leant about cryptocurrency,  even if they don't understand it much they just want to give it out . It will be good if newbies can learn more first and not to be in haste to share their knowledge about something that they do not know about. The real thing newbies are suppose to come up with is to share their challenge on things that seems difficult for them to understand about bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.

Not a bad idea if they want to showcase what they have learnt within a short period of time but don't you feel it's going to be difficult for people to believe them even when they are really making sense because they are very new to the forum? Some members may even try to dig deep to confirm if the account is an alt to some one who's already an established member here if the person teaches those things in a very good way since the account is still very new don't you think so, I think coming to a new place the first thing to do is to understand how things work in the particular area even though you understand things correctly but you still need to be calm so you don't do good things in a bad time thinking you have done very well.

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