[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16)

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Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

Thanks bro, just as I expected, the odds are much closer than for the Canelo vs Ryder bout.

These are official, you can bet them at FanDuel.

If you are aiming to make a huge win, Charlo would be a good choice. The likelihood of him winning however is less 50%. Risk is a risk.
If you have to bet for Canelo for a bigger win, choosing which round where the fight might be stopped or Charlo gets KOed is an option. It's possible on the 5th. It would surprise me if Charlo lasts 5th round. 

A long wait for Bivol's rematch since he has to finish that PBC contract til Benavidez. Benavidez is still a good match for him.

[Yaunfitda]

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Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

Thanks bro, just as I expected, the odds are much closer than for the Canelo vs Ryder bout.

These are official, you can bet them at FanDuel.

If you are aiming to make a huge win, Charlo would be a good choice. The likelihood of him winning however is less 50%. Risk is a risk.
If you have to bet for Canelo for a bigger win, choosing which round where the fight might be stopped or Charlo gets KOed is an option. It's possible on the 5th. It would surprise me if Charlo lasts 5th round. 

A long wait for Bivol's rematch since he has to finish that PBC contract til Benavidez. Benavidez is still a good match for him.

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

I wouldn't go and bet for Charlo to win though, as discussed, long lay-offs and then he going up in weight.

Might be interesting if he can last the full 12 rounds as that could be a good odds.

[freedomgo]

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Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

Thanks bro, just as I expected, the odds are much closer than for the Canelo vs Ryder bout.

These are official, you can bet them at FanDuel.

If you are aiming to make a huge win, Charlo would be a good choice. The likelihood of him winning however is less 50%. Risk is a risk.
If you have to bet for Canelo for a bigger win, choosing which round where the fight might be stopped or Charlo gets KOed is an option. It's possible on the 5th. It would surprise me if Charlo lasts 5th round. 

A long wait for Bivol's rematch since he has to finish that PBC contract til Benavidez. Benavidez is still a good match for him.

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

I wouldn't go and bet for Charlo to win though, as discussed, long lay-offs and then he going up in weight.

Might be interesting if he can last the full 12 rounds as that could be a good odds.

That was an unexpected news because I thought that Canelo Alvarez was already good under Eddie Hearn's banner, but it seems to me that it wasn't the case because he is now with PBC. Quite interesting, honestly, because I'm seriously thinking that Canelo and his team is aiming something that only PBC can do and achieve that for him, and not Eddie Hearn. We know that PBC got a good relationship with the judge's and sanctioning bodies, so that might be the reason or something that is more interesting.

[BigBos]

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Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

Thanks bro, just as I expected, the odds are much closer than for the Canelo vs Ryder bout.

These are official, you can bet them at FanDuel.

Yes it is a good chance to win this fight I think it is a good number for us to bet in this match.
This match will definitely be fierce, I'm starting to think about trying to enter the stakes in the duel this time.

[Maslate]

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Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Odds
Fighter   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -240
Jermall Charlo   +182

As you can see, Canelo is the heavy favorite although he might be facing a tough challenger, so if some of you here believe that Charlo will win, that +182 odds is good for you, $100 to win $182.

Thanks bro, just as I expected, the odds are much closer than for the Canelo vs Ryder bout.

These are official, you can bet them at FanDuel.

If you are aiming to make a huge win, Charlo would be a good choice. The likelihood of him winning however is less 50%. Risk is a risk.
If you have to bet for Canelo for a bigger win, choosing which round where the fight might be stopped or Charlo gets KOed is an option. It's possible on the 5th. It would surprise me if Charlo lasts 5th round. 

A long wait for Bivol's rematch since he has to finish that PBC contract til Benavidez. Benavidez is still a good match for him.

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

I wouldn't go and bet for Charlo to win though, as discussed, long lay-offs and then he going up in weight.

Might be interesting if he can last the full 12 rounds as that could be a good odds.

That was an unexpected news because I thought that Canelo Alvarez was already good under Eddie Hearn's banner, but it seems to me that it wasn't the case because he is now with PBC. Quite interesting, honestly, because I'm seriously thinking that Canelo and his team is aiming something that only PBC can do and achieve that for him, and not Eddie Hearn. We know that PBC got a good relationship with the judge's and sanctioning bodies, so that might be the reason or something that is more interesting.

For sure, that is what we know because that is what they want for us to know but somehow, I like to think that it is safe to say that they are cooking something behind the curtain hence the sudden climb made by Canelo himself.

Too soon to think about that because we now have something on our plate, so it's best to focus on what we have as it is likely that Canelo will still pursue Bivol after his fight with Charlo, regardless of the result.

[btc_angela]

Finally, the dream fight of pussymall Charlo comes into reality. Bad timing though as Canelo caught him inactive. But this fight is the main reason why Mall is either cherry-picking or just staying inactive to preserve his 0 which is as always attractive to Canelo.

It's crazy how Moneyricio Sulaiman is not stripping the WBC belt but most likely that his organization is being paid by PBC to treat them beyond its rules.

Anyways, I would love to see Cownelo butchering Charlo into oblivion. But maybe Canelo is not the same anymore so I just voted for him to win by decision. Rumors by the way that Canelo signed a 3-fight deal with PBC are circulating. So most likely 2 more fights in 2024's Cinco De Mayo weekend and Mexico's independence day weekend in September. So this deal is probably the reason why Benavidez opted not to face the undefeated Cuban David Morrell as it might be too risky.

Sad but true mate, corrupt Sulaiman under the WBC for decades now, and perhaps they really ruin this organization when father and son takes over.

Yeah, most likely May and Sept are reserved again for the Mexican cash cow, so Sept for Charlo, big fight for him, money is going on his side despite him not being stripped by the WBC of his belt.

And I thought that Morrell vs Benavidez is done deal, perhaps Benavidez waiting for the result of this fight and he could be next in line for Canelo next year in Cinco de Mayo, two Mexicans on their holiday week, gonna be huge.

[inthelongrun]

...And I thought that Morrell vs Benavidez is done deal, perhaps Benavidez waiting for the result of this fight and he could be next in line for Canelo next year in Cinco de Mayo, two Mexicans on their holiday week, gonna be huge.

Yes, it really looked like Morrell vs Benavidez is a done deal as even PBC or Showtime IIRC posted it. In the past, I believe that Benavidez is the only one that is willing to face anybody. It's funny though, Benavidez literally ducked Morrell upon knowing Canelo is signed with PBC. So what is Benavidez doing in nearly a year? His nearest date for Canelo is Cinco De Mayo weekend. He needs 1 or 2 fights prior to that. So is Benavidez going to stay inactive or cherry-pick weaker oppositions to preserve his big-money fight with Canelo?

All that talks about Canelo ducking Benavidez and Charlo for years by preferring to stay with DAZN. Canelo did mention before that instead of waiting for him to fight Benavidez and Charlo, why not both fighters fight each other while he is consuming his contract with Matchroom? Both Charlo and Benavidez did not face each other even if they are in the same promotion and network. So it seems like everybody becomes a duck when they become the A-side or when they have something to milk like a championship belt.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

...And I thought that Morrell vs Benavidez is done deal, perhaps Benavidez waiting for the result of this fight and he could be next in line for Canelo next year in Cinco de Mayo, two Mexicans on their holiday week, gonna be huge.

Yes, it really looked like Morrell vs Benavidez is a done deal as even PBC or Showtime IIRC posted it. In the past, I believe that Benavidez is the only one that is willing to face anybody. It's funny though, Benavidez literally ducked Morrell upon knowing Canelo is signed with PBC. So what is Benavidez doing in nearly a year? His nearest date for Canelo is Cinco De Mayo weekend. He needs 1 or 2 fights prior to that. So is Benavidez going to stay inactive or cherry-pick weaker oppositions to preserve his big-money fight with Canelo?

All that talks about Canelo ducking Benavidez and Charlo for years by preferring to stay with DAZN. Canelo did mention before that instead of waiting for him to fight Benavidez and Charlo, why not both fighters fight each other while he is consuming his contract with Matchroom? Both Charlo and Benavidez did not face each other even if they are in the same promotion and network. So it seems like everybody becomes a duck when they become the A-side or when they have something to milk like a championship belt.

I don't know if Charlo did have the chance to fight Benavidez as David might be campaigning at 160 lbs and we all know that he has some issues with drugs and lost his belt that way. And then Charlo becoming inactive and then Benavidez get his shit together and now becoming one of the best fighter that might challenge Canelo in the future.

But if the fight against Morell is not going to materialized then I guess his career will be frozen waiting for the Canelo vs Charlo outcome.

So him and his father better be accepting the fight with Morrell to keep them busy instead of going inactive as this could be a excuse if they lost to a not so prime Canelo.

[Hypnosis00]

All that talks about Canelo ducking Benavidez and Charlo for years by preferring to stay with DAZN. Canelo did mention before that instead of waiting for him to fight Benavidez and Charlo, why not both fighters fight each other while he is consuming his contract with Matchroom? Both Charlo and Benavidez did not face each other even if they are in the same promotion and network. So it seems like everybody becomes a duck when they become the A-side or when they have something to milk like a championship belt.

That's the sad reality, though. Accusations are being thrown around between fighters, but in truth, they are just playing the game to generate money. Nowadays, there are no genuine boxers who fight for pride. The boxing world has become less exciting, and although we complain, we still end up watching because we feel we have no other choice.

[Reatim]

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Date: September 16
Venue: TBD

So, it's officially announced earlier that Jermall Charlo will move up in weight to challenge Canelo Alvarez which i think is the best fight for Canelo this year as a rematch with Bivol is too risky and yet he has nothing to gain if it will be in the SMW division.

What do you think of this fight guys, still cherry picking or Charlo will give Canelo a run for his money?

https://www.insidesport.in/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermall-charlo-boxing-clash-confirmed-for-september-16-ppv-service-and-more-info-revealed/

Alvarez is for this fight , he will certainly win against  Charlo that has a long period of no going up in the ring , yeah given that he consistently training even without a fight yet ? the momentum will always go for those boxers that continuously fighting yearly or more .

[Kemarit]

...And I thought that Morrell vs Benavidez is done deal, perhaps Benavidez waiting for the result of this fight and he could be next in line for Canelo next year in Cinco de Mayo, two Mexicans on their holiday week, gonna be huge.

Yes, it really looked like Morrell vs Benavidez is a done deal as even PBC or Showtime IIRC posted it. In the past, I believe that Benavidez is the only one that is willing to face anybody. It's funny though, Benavidez literally ducked Morrell upon knowing Canelo is signed with PBC. So what is Benavidez doing in nearly a year? His nearest date for Canelo is Cinco De Mayo weekend. He needs 1 or 2 fights prior to that. So is Benavidez going to stay inactive or cherry-pick weaker oppositions to preserve his big-money fight with Canelo?

If I'm the camp of David, better fight Morrell, at least he will eliminated another name that Canelo has to face in the future. And he can brag about it if he can knockout Morrell for good before Canelo can get to Morrell. He is still young though, but we prefer him to get busy. Or they can just cherry pick another opponent at 168 lbs just to get him the activity that he needed.

All that talks about Canelo ducking Benavidez and Charlo for years by preferring to stay with DAZN. Canelo did mention before that instead of waiting for him to fight Benavidez and Charlo, why not both fighters fight each other while he is consuming his contract with Matchroom? Both Charlo and Benavidez did not face each other even if they are in the same promotion and network. So it seems like everybody becomes a duck when they become the A-side or when they have something to milk like a championship belt.

That's how good Canelo's handler is, they stay with DAZN and have one of the biggest fight in GGG. Now that it's done, they switches to Showtime and PBC and he will have another fight in Benavidez and Charlo.

Maybe another fight that slip away is the rematch with Bivol.

[inthelongrun]

...And I thought that Morrell vs Benavidez is done deal, perhaps Benavidez waiting for the result of this fight and he could be next in line for Canelo next year in Cinco de Mayo, two Mexicans on their holiday week, gonna be huge.

Yes, it really looked like Morrell vs Benavidez is a done deal as even PBC or Showtime IIRC posted it. In the past, I believe that Benavidez is the only one that is willing to face anybody. It's funny though, Benavidez literally ducked Morrell upon knowing Canelo is signed with PBC. So what is Benavidez doing in nearly a year? His nearest date for Canelo is Cinco De Mayo weekend. He needs 1 or 2 fights prior to that. So is Benavidez going to stay inactive or cherry-pick weaker oppositions to preserve his big-money fight with Canelo?

All that talks about Canelo ducking Benavidez and Charlo for years by preferring to stay with DAZN. Canelo did mention before that instead of waiting for him to fight Benavidez and Charlo, why not both fighters fight each other while he is consuming his contract with Matchroom? Both Charlo and Benavidez did not face each other even if they are in the same promotion and network. So it seems like everybody becomes a duck when they become the A-side or when they have something to milk like a championship belt.

I don't know if Charlo did have the chance to fight Benavidez as David might be campaigning at 160 lbs and we all know that he has some issues with drugs and lost his belt that way. And then Charlo becoming inactive and then Benavidez get his shit together and now becoming one of the best fighter that might challenge Canelo in the future.

But if the fight against Morell is not going to materialized then I guess his career will be frozen waiting for the Canelo vs Charlo outcome.

So him and his father better be accepting the fight with Morrell to keep them busy instead of going inactive as this could be a excuse if they lost to a not so prime Canelo.

David Benavidez is at 168 just like Canelo while Charlo is the WBC champion at 160.

When Canelo became 168's undisputed after disposing of PBC's Caleb Plant, PBC/Showtime and Matchroom/DAZN were in a tug-of-war to get Canelo. Prior to Plant and after leaving GBP, Canelo wanted a per-fight basis contract so literally, he was a free agent although his next fights were with Matchroom and DAZN. Things became different when Canelo collected all the belts at 168. Both Matchroom/DAZN and PBC/Showtime offered 2-fight deals ranging from $80-$100 million in total. Matchroom/DAZN offered Bivol and GGG while PBC/Showtime offered Benavidez and Charlo.

Jermall Charlo actually keeps on calling Canelo prior to PBC's 2-fight deal offer. Can't blame him though, who would not like a shot at the biggest cash cow in boxing? Even Spence keeps on saying he wanted Canelo too although Jermall has a more realistic shot. Charlo was the WBC interim when Canelo has the real WBC belt during his 160 days. And they're only 1 division apart. Jermall, later on, started cherry-picking and staying inactive to preserve his 0 in order for his chances to remain alive in the Canelo lottery. I can't even remember Charlo calling David for a fight.

David Benavides is not so confident by canceling Morrell. If we're only for the money though, WBA interim, Morrell is a huge risk for Benavidez because it is obvious that he gets a Canelo shot if Charlo losses.  

[Jawhead999]

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

Canelo is scared to fight with prime Bivol, so he avoid it and choose to fight with the opponents he think he will win e.g. Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez, and David Morrell. If the undisputed light heavyweight will happen e.g. Bivol vs Beterbiev, if Bivol win, Canelo will wait until he move to heavyweight or retire. But if Beterbiev win, I think Canelo will dare to fight with Bivol since both of them don't have any belt and the judges will favor on Canelo.

[bisdak40]

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

Canelo is scared to fight with prime Bivol, so he avoid it and choose to fight with the opponents he think he will win e.g. Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez, and David Morrell. If the undisputed light heavyweight will happen e.g. Bivol vs Beterbiev, if Bivol win, Canelo will wait until he move to heavyweight or retire. But if Beterbiev win, I think Canelo will dare to fight with Bivol since both of them don't have any belt and the judges will favor on Canelo.

Is Morell included in the three-fight contract that Eddie Hearn offered to Canelo? I thought the third one was Bivo lol. Anyways, if Bivol is excluded then that was good planning for Team Canelo as he got no chance of winning against a prime and younger Bivol.

If Bivol vs Beterbiev would happen and the latter will win, there's a chance that Canelo would take the risk as Beterbiev would be 42 years by that time  , that's how they do it.

[Jating]

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

Canelo is scared to fight with prime Bivol, so he avoid it and choose to fight with the opponents he think he will win e.g. Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez, and David Morrell. If the undisputed light heavyweight will happen e.g. Bivol vs Beterbiev, if Bivol win, Canelo will wait until he move to heavyweight or retire. But if Beterbiev win, I think Canelo will dare to fight with Bivol since both of them don't have any belt and the judges will favor on Canelo.

We can say it like that, and that's why they low ball Bivol during their second negotiation because they knew they are going to decline that offer. And with that he decided to move to PBC and so he cut ties with Eddie Hearn so obviously no more Bivol fight as Hearn said that it's hard to negotiate that fight.

And with that, Bivol is now hanging, although he will have a good chance to have Beterbiev fight happening. But with all the bad blood between their respective managers, I doubt that this fight is going to happen. So we will see who's next to Bivol, as his career might be in limbo when they turn down that Canelo rematch.

[peter0425]

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i was amazed by the votes as it favored Jermall Charlo?

Yes it is a good chance to win this fight I think it is a good number for us to bet in this match.
This match will definitely be fierce, I'm starting to think about trying to enter the stakes in the duel this time.

with all of our prediction and belief yet the votes goes in Charlo   is there any chance from a lucky punch of knockout that Jermall Charlo can beat Canelo Alvares?

because I doubt it.

[Natalim]

i was amazed by the votes as it favored Jermall Charlo?[

Same here. I actually haven't checked the result yet, and just now I voted for Canelo to win by KO. However, the fact that the majority of the voters believe that Charlo will win is significant. This indicates that the fight is not going to be one-sided; instead, it will be fun to watch as a real competitive bout.

with all of our prediction and belief yet the votes goes in Charlo   is there any chance from a lucky punch of knockout that Jermall Charlo can beat Canelo Alvares?

because I doubt it.

Why would you rely on luck? Charlo is a great fighter, perhaps not as popular as Canelo, but he remains undefeated. In my opinion, there is a chance that he could win this fight.

[Yamifoud]

with all of our prediction and belief yet the votes goes in Charlo   is there any chance from a lucky punch of knockout that Jermall Charlo can beat Canelo Alvares?

because I doubt it.

Why would you rely on luck? Charlo is a great fighter, perhaps not as popular as Canelo, but he remains undefeated. In my opinion, there is a chance that he could win this fight.

Perhaps there is no such thing as a lucky punch, considering that both fighters are professionals who have trained extensively to handle various situations. Some people claimed during the Pacman vs Marquez fight that Marquez's win against Pacquiao was due to a lucky punch, but many disagreed, believing it was part of the game plan.

[Russlenat]

The Bivol rematch might happen next year or maybe we will not see that happening at all as Canelo is with PBC now. Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and Match room so I doubt that they are going to work out as Canelo's contract with PBC is exclusive for a 3 fight deal.

Canelo is scared to fight with prime Bivol, so he avoid it and choose to fight with the opponents he think he will win e.g. Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez, and David Morrell. If the undisputed light heavyweight will happen e.g. Bivol vs Beterbiev, if Bivol win, Canelo will wait until he move to heavyweight or retire. But if Beterbiev win, I think Canelo will dare to fight with Bivol since both of them don't have any belt and the judges will favor on Canelo.

David Benavidez is not on Canelo's option as he is hiding behind the reason that there's no benefit for him if he will fight David, which is true, but considering that he's also fond in cleaning his own division, I cannot see any reason why he will not give David the chance and this governing bodies is not doing their job and give a mandatory fight as David is a WBC interim boxer.

For Bivol, I think Canelo is not after what Bivol is holding right now as a rematch is just a plain fight to redeem his loss and so it doesn't really matter if Bivol will lost the belt to Beterbiev or not. But as per Bivol's words, there will be no rematch unless Canelo wanted to take a risk and host the fight at his own division.

[bisdak40]

For Bivol, I think Canelo is not after what Bivol is holding right now as a rematch is just a plain fight to redeem his loss and so it doesn't really matter if Bivol will lost the belt to Beterbiev or not. But as per Bivol's words, there will be no rematch unless Canelo wanted to take a risk and host the fight at his own division.

Bivol also wanted a legacy on his own, to be a unified champion someday and he can do that on an easy path if he fight Canelo on 168lbs division, where Canelo reigned as the unified champion but i don't think that it would happen as Team Canelo is carefully planning its move as he is not getting younger anymore and losing the belts might have a negative impact on his career money-wise. A rematch with Bivol if would happen will be on the Russian's weight class as he has nothing to loss on path rather than the Russian going down in weight.