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June 22, 2023, 05:33:35 PM |
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cheating is not a route that could be followed. it can't work in long term, most of the times doesn't allow any consistent win.
In sports bet I don't know what It can be defined "cheating". Example. some years ago a site was quoting "team x" to be relegated (low odds but they continue to accept bets).
Well this "team x" was in a financial default and practically already relegated! Betting on this it could be considered a cheat? Taking advantage of ignorance of the bookie could be called a cheat?
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June 22, 2023, 05:37:51 PM |
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As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once. What kind of fraud do you mean because if this is talking about slot machines, they will actually deceive you because you cannot be responsible for the gambling that in do. Don't talk about morals in gambling because basically gamblers are not working in a social institution and there will be cheating if they have the opportunity to do so and gambling is always associated with the ability to carry out activities responsibly or not. There is nothing clean in gambling and anyone who has the opportunity to cheat will do so, moral standards are not enforced in gambling and anyone will do anything if they have the opportunity to profit. Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early? If the trick is successful, more and more people will gamble and eventually the casino owner will go bankrupt. LOL Unfortunately that never happens and there are hardly any tricks that actually work 100% in any gamble including slots.
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June 22, 2023, 05:40:42 PM |
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If you have that kind of trick to win, you better not spit it out or casinos will be checking who else has found that trick.
I'm sure morals can be bent until proven to be a cheat but if it's a strategy it's possibly gonna be pushed by a gambler as a strategy than a cheat. Until it's not proven to be a cheat, then the conscience is clean. I have tried different tricks already somehow I find it not worth it in the end, one cheat to exploit isn't so bad lol. Now spit it out!
Cheating is actually bad but if you are faced with this situation, you would chose to find some tricks to win so you can recover what you have lost. But how can we cheat in a casino when everything is only played by chances and luck. I believe we always try different tricks to win but still, it always end up making us the losing end. So I don’t think cheating or playing with some tricks will work. Otherwise, most gamblers will resort into playing with some tricks so they will never lose again.
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June 22, 2023, 06:08:03 PM |
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You're lucky if you can get away with it because casinos can catch up fast to what their players are doing, and cashouts aren't always instant. Instead of cheating, i'd report the case since casinos are starting to offer rewards if you can find a bug in any of their games. For sportsbooks, the closest way for gamblers to cheat is when the sportsbooks make a mistake and misgrade their bets, as they are more common compared to receiving a tip about a fixed match.
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June 22, 2023, 06:11:32 PM |
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It comes with repercussions, and if I even dared doing it, I know that it will come back to me one way or another. I'd rather not try it the first time and just play as honest as possible rather than risk losing my account or my money. If I need the money and I'm crooked enough to think of cheating, I deserve to lose money in the process and have my account banned for doing illegal things for monetary gain. It's tempting, but it is definitely not worth it as it will surely develop into a habit later on and might affect other things and not just your gambling activities.
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June 22, 2023, 06:16:38 PM |
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As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.
Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
I have watched countless videos on YouTube on how to use math to win a gambler, and how to use other strategies from people who have proven that they won a lot of money. I don't know if it is considered as cheating but then I use them to know how to get better. I use them to see if there is a crack in the casino system that I can exploit that would work for me as it has worked for others. Is this considered cheat? Well, I don't know but my aim is to win just like the casino's aim is for me to lose or for them to win.
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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June 22, 2023, 06:43:41 PM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Right now, I am very skeptical about this because I know that such a trick will never work for two people. If it's in your case, by the time you get lucky the first time, even before you tell the next person, that error will have been fixed ASAP. You don't joke with casinos, as they don't also joke with their business; they are always on watch for the system. If such an error occurs and it's not handled ASAP and it really costs them a big loss, then I believe the job of their staff, which was on site when such errors occurred, would be at risk. Or you (OP) could rephrase your question to become, "What if you make a heavy win from the casino and you notice that the win was as a result of an error from the system? Would you take all the money won or return it back to the casino and ask for the system to be corrected so you can make your bet again? (LOL, what nonsense imagination!) Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺
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June 22, 2023, 07:14:20 PM |
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It's a very hard question if you try to answer with honesty. If I knew I could 100% get away with it and it was 100% a working exploit, I'd probably try it out. What could go wrong? I know this would technically be stealing, but I'd try it for the thrill of it with a little bit of money. I wouldn't probably keep doing it, the way that I'd keep funneling money from the game to fund a lavish lifestyle, but I wouldn't mind trying it out to see if I could get a free hundred or two.
If there was a way to report a bug or exploit and get a reward I'd rather do that though.
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BitcoinTurk
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June 22, 2023, 07:24:31 PM |
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It is absolutely impossible to cheat in any of the gambling games. It would be wrong to perceive it as cheating but three possibilities are possible;
In sports betting, if it is heard that a match will be fixed in a match and if this statement is heard from a really good source bets can be made accordingly. However, this is not a cheating but an action performed by accessing that information.
In slot machines, if a game pays out according to a certain order and it is solved by following this order, playing the game in accordance with this order will help to gain profit. However, this cannot be considered as cheating. Solving the game algorithm is definitely not a cheating.
In card games, following the cards is a skill not a cheating. Therefore, it is not right to consider this as cheating.
In summary, it is not possible to cheat in gambling but it is possible to discover a method with the game algorithm, confidential information access or game tracking and gain profit accordingly. All this is not cheating.
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June 22, 2023, 07:25:19 PM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
A trick is different from cheating, atleast to me, I personally understand "trick" in other words to mean strategy, so if there be a sure trick to help me win a bet or win big while playing on the slot machine, then be rest assure I will grab it with both hands. But then on the side of cheating, if I find or discover a means of cheating on the casino to enable me win, if I am one hundred percent sure it's cheating, I will not take part in it, maybe I would have grabbed the opportunity with both hands 2 years ago, but as the type of person I've choosen to become, I will not cheat, but like I said, if I discover a trick, in other words "strategy" that works, I will grab and use it to make some money for myself .
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June 22, 2023, 07:47:39 PM |
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As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.
Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
I am not going to say I am morally superior or anything because the truth is, depending on the amount of money from the cheating, I may be tempted. But I think the same goes for everyone. Especially the more in need of money they are. So, we are all only human- in essence. In my experience, the more money a person has, the greedier they become. The rich would definitely find no moral qualms with cheating a casino out of their money. They would probably give a excuse for their actions, such as "the insurance company of the casino will pay it" or something. All I can say is I hope that I can resist the temptation, should the time come.
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June 22, 2023, 07:53:48 PM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Yes, if this a fixed game and not a software that can cheat casino games since casino will most likely detect any software later on. They can always sue you by cheating since we usually provide KYC on our casino account. On betting in fixed match, Theirs no way a casino can really determined that you have a fixed match info since you are doing it one time while you are still gambling since you can’t guarantee that the fixed match is legit or not. A software cheat will not gonna work 100% because casino has our personal details to sue us in case we manage to cashout some huge money from cheating. I can’t having a record of cheating online.
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June 22, 2023, 07:55:48 PM |
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As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.
Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
For sure it would be "YES" for most people who would really be having t hat kind of opportunity because this isnt something that you could really be able to have the chance on having a grasps. If ever there's a chance that you could really be able to win big, doesnt matter if its the way of cheating or what, then most people would be setting aside that principles that they do have in life as long they could be able to win up big and thinking that they would be able to take it back on what they have lost in gambling.Doesnt matter on what other people would be saying about standards and principles in life which as long you do able to clear up your losses then thats the main thing that you would be having in mind on playing. Somewhat speaking about reality we do know that there's no such way on cheating up the house or going against because there's no way that you could cheat up the system and there's no such thing about getting fixed information that easily.
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June 22, 2023, 07:56:01 PM |
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I'm not one to gamble for profit, but if an exploitable bug in the system or programming comes up which guarantees me profits I would normally use and would abuse it as much as I like. We have got to be real here, and I'm talking about the people in this forum whose hands they try to wash so much but would do the same thing if given the chance. You gotta take into account that this type of opportunity doesn't come by every day, plus it guarantees you profits which is the best thing about it.
Everyone's going to be tempted, and personally I'd rather be a rich sinner than a poor monk cause at least when problems arrive I could cry in my nice apartment or a really expensive car and not a Pinto lmao. But for real though I'd be tempted to take the bait and cheat on games.
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Ryu_Ar1
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June 22, 2023, 07:56:47 PM |
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I'm not even too sure we can cheat the casino on this one. Although there may be some who can but of course this is only a small fraction of the vast majority of us who are played by casinos be it online or offline On the other hand of course there are some conditions where we will also deal with the law later so instead of doing that just for a small profit I prefer to play with the existing rules rather than in the end I receive bigger problems with small money so it's better to gamble as usual and not do anything strange because this also makes me more comfortable in the game.
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June 22, 2023, 08:02:21 PM |
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I try to be honest and ethical in my life, so probably not but it depends on the people or place that I'd be playing at. I'm sure it would be much easier to cheat anonymous machine than a real person. If I had to look somebody in the eye and scam them, I wouldn't, but if there was a weak point in a slot machine that I could exploit... maybe?
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BitcoinPanther
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June 22, 2023, 08:04:21 PM |
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Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
If the information is an exploit I will not dare to use it. Cheating a casino may result in getting ban if caught. While with match fixing, if I happen to get an inside information then I would bet on it. The match fixing will happen anyway whether I bet on the game or not. There is a huge difference between exploiting the casino and betting in a fixed game, IMO. The first one is self made while the latter is made by the officiating people of the said sports.
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jrrsparkles
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June 22, 2023, 08:10:16 PM |
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Cheating and a trick with 100% rate will make sure that you will win is entirely different.
If we are talking about betting on a fixed game then I would do, cause who just let the opportunity to go away!
And poker may be used to explain this thread more clearly, if you are bluffing its totally acceptable and its not cheating while if you sweep cards its cheating and you will be banned from playing there forever.
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wheelz1200
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June 22, 2023, 08:16:59 PM |
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As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.
Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Honestly I would probably stay away from the game myself. Yeah probably a good opportunity but I'm sure tons of people have been told about "fixed" games and have lost because of bad Intel. And on the other side of it, if you were ever tied to it somehow in terms of getting information there could be repercussions as well. All in all I'm out on something like that.
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SOKO-DEKE
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June 22, 2023, 08:24:48 PM |
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Yes, I will cheat if I have the opportunity to do so, as for me, gambling is not only for entertaining myself but also to make money from it, so if I see a way to cheat, I will do it without even thinking twice. I believe many gamblers will cheat if they really have the opportunity,because over 90% of gamblers are gambling because they want to make money from it, and again, money is temptation, so anything that involves money makes people easily get convinced to do whatever they were not supposed to do. In fact, I see cheating in gambling as part of strategies to win bets.
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